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22 Mar 2018 09:55:14
Indy: Harkless+Schroder


Atlanta: Jefferson+ 1rnd pick Indy+1rnd pick Portland

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22 Mar 2018 12:06:39
/ is a solid player, Portland may need to give up more

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22 Mar 2018 13:12:42
They're over the cap, they want to give up more.

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22 Mar 2018 03:33:41
Bucks get Kanter Hardaway Mudiay Thomas 48
Knicks get Middleton Brogdan Henson Snell

Find a coach who knows how to spread the offensive power house.


Wolves get Burke Noah
Knicks get Dieng Aldrich


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22 Mar 2018 05:00:23
Knicks fan?

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22 Mar 2018 13:12:30
I’m a Knicks fan. And this guy gets worse and worse by the day. You make us all look like morons. Stop. Please.

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22 Mar 2018 01:47:50
Mike Conley to philly for Markelle Fultz,Jerryd Bayless,pick 19

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22 Mar 2018 04:07:22
While I like this trade for both teams, I don't think the Sixers do this deal because they are still holding out for LeBron James. Acquiring Conley would make it impossible to acquire James. However, if the Sixers are confident that there is now way to acquire James, this is a nice consolation.

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22 Mar 2018 09:10:44
The Sixers would have around 72 M salary on the Books with Conley, so i think they still have a shot for LBJ

The duo Conley -LBJ could be great and Simmons can move to the powerforward position. But they need extra shooters. They can trade Saric for a shootingguard. (maybe Saric for Bullock and a 2rnd pick)

C: Embiid/ Holmes
PF:Simmons/ LBJ
SF:LBJ/ Covington
SG:Bullock/ Anderson
PG:Conley/ Simmons/ McConnell.

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22 Mar 2018 09:33:01
It's not bad value wise, but I see Philly being more likely to add either a star through FA (ie. LBJ), or leaving the ball in Simmons hands and going after more shooting. With J. J. coming off the books, there is not much shooting left if he is not re-signed.

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21 Mar 2018 20:33:55

Det: Bledsoe, Fournier, Henson
- upgrade at point and the wing while moving a bad contract

Magic get Jackson, Johnson, Wilson
- temp pg until whoever the magic draft will replace him. Also adds 2 young players to build around Gordon

Bucks: Drummond
- upgrade with an anchor 5 and bucks bring Giannis back to point

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21 Mar 2018 21:09:27
I don't see why Detroit would be interested. Drummond has been really good this year and is still young. Why would Detroit want to move him?

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21 Mar 2018 21:34:33
I look at Griffin and he has the size and ability to guard against the 5, and cause mismatch problems with larger centers on him. Griffin and Drummond locked up about 40-45% of the cap for the next two years so they will be banking on the rest of their team pushing them to deep contender. I do not see that happening. Ish and Reggie are both bottom 1/ 3 pg and although Det will have good clips on ESPN realistically they are not going to be a 1-4 seed in the east.

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21 Mar 2018 21:38:30
Not enough for Drummond, Plus as rkenne stated, I also doubt that Detroit would want to move Drummond as Henson is no where near what Drummond pulls down in rebounds on a consistent basis.

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22 Mar 2018 01:59:59
Succeed, I don't see Griffin being able to handle the 5 like you do, so I don't see this as a deal that Detroit would make.

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22 Mar 2018 02:22:36
I get what you're saying Suceed, but I'd argue that Drummond is the better player (or atleast the player that is actually able to stay on the court) . Who knows how long Van Gundy is going to be there and I don't think a new gm will feel any kind of attachment to Griffin.

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21 Mar 2018 17:38:14
---Cleveland Cavaliers offseason moves---

Trade #1

Cleveland Cavaliers:
J. R. Smith

Minnesota Timberwolves:
Gorgui Dieng

Why? Smith will he an expiring next year while Dieng will be in the books for three more seasons.

Even though overpaid, he's useful. Timberwolves get cap relief.

Trade #2

Cleveland Cavaliers:
Kevin Love and Kyle Korver

Phoenix Suns:
T. J. Warren, Tyson Chandler, Jared Dudley, picks #15, #16 and #32 in '18 draft.

Why? Cleveland gets a nice haul for their star. Phoenix adds a quality big next to their core of Booker, Jackson and Payton.

---Clevelands draft---
Pick #7: Wendell Carter Jr.
Pick #15: Khyri Thomas
Pick #16: Robert Williams
Pick #32: Kendall Stephens

Cleveland depth chart
PG: George Hill / Khyri Thomas
SG: Rodney Hood / Jordan Clarkson / Kendall Stephens
SF: LeBron James / T. J. Warren / Cedi Osman / Jared Dudley
PF: Robert Williams / Larry Nance Jr.
C: Wendell Carter Jr. / Tristan Thompson / Gorgui Dieng / Tyson Chandler.

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21 Mar 2018 17:55:06
I don't see either trade happening. In the first one, I don't like it for either team. Dieng is a limited big man on a bad contract. The Cavs already have one of those in Thompson. I don't like the other one for either team. Phoenix isn't close to competing and Love will be 30. There is no way the Suns give up that package for him and for the Cavs, you need a second allstar caliber player if Lebron is staying. I do it if he's gone on Cleveland's end though.

I hate the Carter pick for Cleveland. The guy is a subpar athlete and hasn't been all that impressive at Duke. I've seen comps to Horford for him, but I don't see it. He isn't going to be able to get out on the perimeter like Horford and Horford was a good athlete coming out. Plodding centers are defensive liabilities in today's league. I'd much rather have who ever drops out of Young, Jackson, Bamba or Porter if they get the 7th pick or if they fall to 8, Sexton, Knox or either Bridges.

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21 Mar 2018 01:09:26
Damian Lillard to cavs for Jordan Clarkson,Cedi Osman,Kyle krover,pick 4,2020 2nd

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21 Mar 2018 10:46:18
I could see Portland doing this, if they can land a good powerforward with that Nets pick. (Bagley or Jackson)

PF: Bagley
PG: Clarckson.

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21 Mar 2018 13:23:34
What is pick 4? Isn't BRK pick slated around 7? This isn't helpful for the POR salary/ roster issues. If CLE finishes worse in the playoffs, If James leaves would be deal breakers for Lillard, who is in the drivers seat of where he goes. Osman, and Korver are not much compensation. Even if that pick was 4 it appears to be overvalued in this scenario. Clarkson is a good piece though.

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20 Mar 2018 23:40:26
How much do you think Zach Lavine will get this offseason for a contract he’s not worth 20m+ more like 13/ 15m a year.

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21 Mar 2018 00:47:12
I've heard/ read between 10 and 15 for Hood. I'd assume Lavine gets a little more than that so maybe 12 to 18. For either it seems like some of the tanking teams could throw a wrench in that if they really like one of them.

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21 Mar 2018 02:47:28
12-15 mil. Inconsistency has been a problem. He's good no doubt, but I bet whatever CHI offers he takes. I don't see a lot of teams beating his door down.

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21 Mar 2018 13:14:59
I'm confused Rkenne_16, the sample size of Hood and what he brings is significantly larger, and more successful than Lavine. Where are you coming up with your valuation from? Lavine had little if any success in MIN, got injured, and has had about 10-15 good games this season.

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21 Mar 2018 13:43:20
The sample size is Hood has 240 career games played and Lavine has 230. Lavine has the higher shooting percentage, averages more points, assists, rebounds, defender, is 3 years younger, and is the better athlete. Obviously, his knee injury is concerning, but he's looked alright since returning.

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21 Mar 2018 14:33:40
They're defensive #'s are nearly identical, hood is bigger too. Hood is the better shooter, especially on the perimeter. Where are you coming up with these #'s? Hood is 1 year older, so they both have missed significant time early in their careers. And Hood before being traded to CLE was averaging about 17, on a team with 3-4 other good players at his position. CLE has not been a good fit for him, until now that they finally benched Smith, and Hood is having back issues now. 34%, and 39% from 3 in the NBA is a huge margin of separation. Hood is the 39% guy. Lavine hasn't looked good since Dunn came back in the line-up. Size alone I value Hood more at a 2-3 than Lavine at a 2. Lavine wants to do the Marbury, Jordan thing which doesn't work anymore. Maybe because of age Lavine carries equal value, but that's the only clear advantage along with finishing at the rim. These guys are kind of 2 different players. Guys go under the screen on Lavine. Not with Hood. Youth, athleticism, and potential possibly nets Lavine equal pay to Hood, but I think Hood will edge him out in salary 2-3 mil.

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21 Mar 2018 14:46:40
I'm looking at career numbers and since coming back Lavine hasn't shot well in a tiny sample size, but has hit a higher percentage for his career. No one is going under a screen on Lavine. They have similiar ability behind the arc. Size is nice, but Hood doesn't use it on the defensive end and is a worse finisher than Lavine as you stated. Lavine was a better player last year than Hood is this year and has the higher upside. I like Hood, but I like Lavine more.

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21 Mar 2018 15:17:10
I see someone who misses out on a big FA pulling a Knicks a la Hardaway and offering 4 at $68M ($17 per) . I agree with rkenne that he should be in the $12-$15M a year range.

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21 Mar 2018 16:20:57
Depends on what you want from a player.

LaVine is almost three years younger (Hood born 10-20-92 and LaVine born 3-10-95).

Hood is bigger and can play the 2 and 3. LaVine is almost exclusively a SG (witch some PG abilities) .

Per 36: Hood is 17.0-4.0-2.6 and LaVine 17.6-3.8-4.0.
Shooting: Hood .417-.368.831 and LaVine .437-.373.820

I also think LaVine still has a larger upside and is more explosive.

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21 Mar 2018 17:39:58
Agree that MIL biggest problem is 5 and Giannis won't wait for ever to solve it. they should go for Cousins because there is no other FA that can make the difference. Jordan is more likely to stay in LA or follow Lebron. with jabari in MIL gives a better starting lineup to Cousins than NO. Cousins should think about MIL because he can find max only in worse teams with less ambition including the pelicans.

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21 Mar 2018 17:42:20
I guess we'll all see come July who gets more, and for how long. I do think any outside team could come in and snatch one, or both of these guys for 17-20 mil. If Lavine turns into an Oladipo, I'l be eating my words, and Lavine has that potential. I haven't seen that as of yet though.

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21 Mar 2018 18:09:36
Milpso, the Bucks at best can offer him the MLE (I'm not even sure if they can offer that) . He would have to take 25+ million per year less than his max at best to sign with the Bucks and really how much better are the Bucks right now than the Pelicans. They have a little bit better roster, but not significantly better.

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20 Mar 2018 20:33:17
MIL next season

hire any coach (kokoskov maybe, inspiring work with Slovenia)

sign Jabari 3y 60mil
sign Cousins (or Jordan) 3y 70mil

PHO: Henson and Dellavedova
MIL: Chandler and Daniels

Phoenix gets two valuable assets, Mil saves money to resign Bledsoe and Middleton summer 2019

MIL gets a real chance to go for the championship in the next three years Antetokounmbo's deal

Bledsoe/ Brogdon/ Jennings
Middleton/ Snell/ Daniels
Giannis/ Brown
Parker/ Wilson
Cousins/ Chandler/ Maker

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20 Mar 2018 23:17:51
Not bad but, I would actually like to see the Bucks bring in a New coach, There has been talk and rumors of Stan van Gundy, David Fitzdale, etc. I think SA Asst. coach Becky Hammon would be an excellent choice. Having studied under Popovich for a couple of years, She would bring new ideas. Prunty is J. Kidd 2.0. Phoenix could use Henson and Dellavedova, But, I don't think the Suns would include Daniels? Either way, Milwaukee needs to do something, before Giannis A. starts looking around for a new team.

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20 Mar 2018 23:59:20
They don't have money to sign a center and I doubt the Suns will be willing to do that trade. Why would they want to slightly overpayed limited role players. I think they could find a trade for Henson that saves money, but without attaching some assets to Delly, I think he would be hard to move.

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21 Mar 2018 00:37:14
Somebody is giving cousins the max and I wouldn't want that dude in my locker room.

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21 Mar 2018 00:59:25
@ rkeene_16, Agreed! But, a center is what they really need. Maybe adding Brogdan instead of Dellavedova, and a pick? Or including J. Parker with something?

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21 Mar 2018 04:12:28
Torque, A Parker sign and trade for Jordan might work for both sides or maybe Brogdon, a 1st plus Delly and Henson. I think if the Bucks were interested in something like that it would have gotten done at the deadline. I don't see Cousins leaving the Pelicans this summer. No one is giving up much in a sign and trade for him to pay him the max so NOs won't play ball and there aren't many good teams with cap space. So his options are resign with the Pelicans (who have a pretty good shot at the playoffs this year even without him), go to a bad team, or take less than the max.

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21 Mar 2018 13:51:03
@rkeene_16, Agreed, I would rather see Jordan go to Milwaukee than Cousins. Then again, Jordan did state he doesn't want to go anywhere. Also agree about Cousins not going anywhere also. The Pels. did pick up some pieces, That should help them now, and next year.

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21 Mar 2018 13:52:06
Parker for T. Harris S&T, or Parker, Dellavadova for Gallinari, Beverly. Bucks need shooting at the 4. 2nd trade pre-contract expiration obviously. Keeping Parker should be a priority. Kidd is gone. All the young guys know Jeff Van Gundy he coaches everyone of them before college, and during for USA, Nike Hoop Summit ball. Isn't a control freak. I could care less about what he says as a color man announcer for ESPN. It's his job to be wacky. He's familiar with every young player to come in this league for the last 10 years. Blatt, Fizdale, Jackson have problems with control, ego, narcissism. All 3 were fired for that reason. We don't need to re-hash why Blatt, or Jackson, or Fizdale are jobless. Not guys you send to keep Parker in tow, and unite a team of individuals. Look to NCAA possibly, or Stackhouse. From the G's.

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21 Mar 2018 16:00:20
@ jorgawood, Didn't the Bucks once have PF T. Harris, and trade him to Miami for SG Riddick? And isn't Gallinari coming off of an injury? Bucks do need a Shooting 4, But I don't think T. Harris, or Gallinari would be the answer. they actually need a defensive, Rebounding Center more than anything. I believe Milwaukee is 30th is rebounding. As far
as Van Gundy, Yes, He's been coaching new recruits, and college kids for years. I believe that would be the issue. same old plays. I personally don't care for Jackson, Van Gundy, or Blatt. I would mind Fitzdale. That's why I believe Becky Hammon would be perfect for the HC job at Milwaukee. The Bucks don't need a College coach, Or Stackhouse, (Who also played for the Bucks) A young and upcoming Coach, or Asst. coach. new building (I've heard) and a young team needs a coach to grow with them, Otherwise you again have j. kidd 2.0 As you had stated, We don't need to rehash why Blatt, Jackson, and Fitzdale are jobless. Well, I believe there's also a reason why J. Van Gundy hasn't been rehired anywhere as a NBA coach either.

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21 Mar 2018 17:51:19
Agree that MIL biggest problem is 5 and Giannis won't wait for ever to solve it. they should go for Cousins because there is no other FA that can make the difference. Jordan is more likely to stay in LA or follow Lebron. with jabari in MIL gives a better starting lineup to Cousins than NO. Cousins should think about MIL because he can find max only in worse teams with less ambition including the pelicans.

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21 Mar 2018 18:11:00
I posted on the wrong thread, but basically, the Bucks don't have any money at all to sign Cousins with. It's impossible.

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21 Mar 2018 20:42:36
Cousins would be better off staying with the Pels. He seems to like it there, And he also works well with others there. Anywhere else just might be an issue? As far as J. Parker with Cousins, Milwaukee is more of a running team now that Kidd is gone. I can't see Cousins doing that. He's more of a half court player. I have seen him take off at times, But, also lag behind and wait for the basketball to come back to him. For me, The Pels are his best bet.

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20 Mar 2018 19:32:28
Knicks: b Knight+ 1rnd pick Memphis (draft Doncic)

Memphis: Batum+ 1rnd pick NY+ 1rnd pick Cha, draft Bridges and Knox

Cha: C Parsons+Ntilikina+ 1rnd pick Phoe, draft Ayton

Phoe: K Walker+ L Thomas

The Knicks can draft rebuilt arround Porzingis-Doncic

Memphis can make another playoff run and they can develop two young players.

Charlotte can start a rebuilt arround Ayton and Ntilikina

Phoenix get the best player and can stop rebuilding. They need to start winning to keep Booker happy.

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21 Mar 2018 17:41:41
I would think the Suns would turn this down. I think their more pressing need is a better Center. Chandler is aging and Len is a free agent. Chriss and Bender aren't the answer in my eyes.

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20 Mar 2018 16:40:12
If Lebron stays, Deandre Jordan opts in to be traded.

The Cavs get Jordan

The Clippers get Smith (Buyout), Clarkson, Zizic, and the Cavs 2021 1st lottery protected.

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20 Mar 2018 17:00:54
The CAVS don't appear to have a 2019 pick to deal, or even a 2020. The Clips can do a mid-rebuild without tearing it down to the ground with an infusion of young talent in the next few years. Someone will offer better, and it won't cost a buyout.

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20 Mar 2018 17:38:06
I believe the Clippers would want more. Maybe the Brooklyn pick?

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20 Mar 2018 18:12:07
Jordan can walk and they'll end up with 12 million dollars in cap space. They are getting Clarkson, Zizic and a 1st for the Cavs use of their cap room. This is a way they can get something out of nothing. They basically go 2 older high level role players and a 1st out of Paul this way and he has a lot more value than.

There's no way the Cavs were the ever giving up the Brooklyn pick for Jordan. He's just not worth it. I don't see many teams out there over the cap willing to give up assets for Jordan. Apparently all of the offers for him near the deadline included big contracts.

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20 Mar 2018 19:11:32
The Nets pick is to much, but the clippers would want Osman.

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20 Mar 2018 20:26:24
D.J. Is a Clipper for life! Maybe. I think he fits LAC for the time being. I can't see why he wouldn't collect his option and sign a longer term deal next year. Not being traded speaks for his comfortability there, and can't get a better team builder than Jerry West. Good things are coming to LAC based on his record.

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20 Mar 2018 21:44:38
Jordan did state that he wants to remain a Clipper. So, I guess time will tell if he changes his mind? The Clippers were offered multiple players, and 1st rd picks before for Jordan, From various teams, And the Clippers down them all down.

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