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11 Dec 2017 11:04:46
Last year i made this trade:

Philly: Ingram+ dropping the protection on the LA pick

LA: B Simmons

So Philly would have the 2nd and 3 rd pick, drafting Ball and Tatum

C: Embiid
PF: Saric
SF: Tatum
SG: Ingram
PG: Ball

LA sent a future 1rnd pick (they own the 2018 pick) to the Nets with Mozgov for B Lopez

C: B Lopez/ Zubac
PF: Kuzma/randle
SF: Nance
SG: Russell
PG: B Simmons

Should they do this trade, if they could redo it?

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11 Dec 2017 11:57:06
I think the Nets and 76ers both would have passed. A future pick wasn't getting rid of Mozgov and bringing in Lopez. Maybe, they could have done Ball or Ingram, but not just a future pick. Also, the 76ers seemed 100 percent convinced that Simmons was a star last year. There is no way that he was getting trade for something like a few spots in the draft.

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11 Dec 2017 14:17:27
Simmons is a stud.
But adding the trio Tatum, Ingram and Ball to replace him must be temting.

I believe the Nets would do this move. Mozgov is on a big contract, but it's not close to a max deal. The Lakers pick is going to be a lottery pick and the Nets have time. Russell is having a great year, but he's already playing for a big contract. So the pick, would give the Nets time for a descent rebuilt.

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11 Dec 2017 14:53:01
That all depends on how much you believe Ainge. He claims that he would have picked Tatum with the #1, so the picks would likely have been either Fultz and Jackson or they would have traded back. I doubt that Philly would have traded up (using the #2 and the 2019 Kings in this scenario) to get the #1 for Fultz since they could have one of him or Ball at 2 guaranteed.

Either way, I don't think Philly does this with as high as they were/ are on Simmons.

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11 Dec 2017 14:55:02
Js they would one and two.

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11 Dec 2017 11:03:48
OKC: Clarkson, Kuzma, Brewer

Lakers: PG13

Doubt if James leaves CAVS, but if he does, creates that space. OKC will still be competitive. Clarkson another ball handler. Anthony, and Kuzma is good small ball, and Brewer expires, but can still play D for this season. PG13 comes home. Where he belongs

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11 Dec 2017 13:29:15
Unless LeBron goes to LA, I'm not sure why George would want to play for a lottery team.

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11 Dec 2017 14:39:45
That would be an overpay for LA. They trade two young pieces for a player that's a free agent next year. The C Anthony trade to NY proves that's a bad idea.

If PG13 likes the Lakers, he would sign with them next summer.

I do like this trade for OKC.

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11 Dec 2017 08:23:37

DAL get Favors, Burks & 1st rd pick

Pg Smith
Sg Burks
Sf Matthews
Pf Nowitzki
Ce Favors

UTA get Barnes

Pg Rubio
Sg Mitchell
Sf Hood
Pf Barnes
Ce Gobert

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11 Dec 2017 09:03:07
It's a good trade as long as that is a playoff team pick. Burks is going to be dealt more than likely along with Favors. We will find out soon what Utah decides to do. Both Johnson, and Hood can Play the 2, so I'm not sure. Have to fill Favors shoes as well. Need a Back up for Gobert.

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11 Dec 2017 08:05:02
Pelicans - Harrison Barnes

Mavs - Omir Asik, Solomon Hill, Cheick Diallo, 2018 unprotected 1st round pick, 2019 2nd round pick

Pels lineup

PG - Rondo - Nelson
SG - Holiday - Moore
SF - Barnes - Miller
PF - Davis - Cunningham
C - Cousins - Ajainca.

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11 Dec 2017 09:37:15
dallas won´t give away barnes for a pick in the range 15-25. Better trade by the way would be matthews and mejri for asik, hill, diallo, 1st rounder 2018 and 2nd rounder 2019.

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11 Dec 2017 05:22:01
She Wolves get: DeAndre Jordan

Clippers get: Dieng, Patton, and Tyus Jones. (if that's not enough than an appropriate pick can be added, or perhaps a first rounder in place of Jones)

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11 Dec 2017 05:34:42
Deandre's 20+ million that he has an option for next season is tough for a 1 way player. I do like the proposed trade. KAT is is more skilled, but Jordan is a defensive machine. It would be a good balance he and KAT. Not sure if Deandre would like coming off the bench either. I like it its interesting.

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10 Dec 2017 19:54:31
The Spurs get Korver, Frye, Rose and a Cavs 2nd

The Cavs get Green and Dedmond

The Hawks get Lauvergne, White and Zizic

The Spurs get some needed fire power on offense.

The Cavs get an upgrade at sg and a good back up center. They end up significantly better on defense without losing many future assets.

Atlanta gets a few young players for a guy that doesn't fit into their long term plans.

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10 Dec 2017 22:57:41
I can't see the Spurs doing this, unless the think they have a chance signing PG13.

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11 Dec 2017 00:22:07
If Rose were healthy, the Spurs didn't have Murray, and Mills, and Parker. And Rose was more skilled from 3, and wasn't looking to retire in a year, or 2 like he stated recently. Not to mention injury history. Korver wasn't 36. Green wasn't an all defense member. Danny Green is a better perimeter defender than Korcer. Lauvergne is a youth movement for San Antonio. They got him on the cheap, and feel they got a good deal. Frye has never been a defensive presence anywhere he has been, other than being long. Hawks would like the youth movement, Cleveland would love this trade. A 1st, or add another 2nd could possibly entice the Spurs.

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10 Dec 2017 18:31:58
Portland: I. Shumpert, I.Thomas, V.carter, 1st rd. Pick (Portland) from Cavs.

Cavs: D.lillard, Z. Randolph, Nurkic

Sacramento: T.Thompson, 2 future 2nd round picks from Portland.

Defense in Portland, Cavs get scoring, and D, plus Nurkic is young, and a better shooter than Thompson. Sacramento flips aging veterans, for a young veteran, and future picks.

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10 Dec 2017 19:12:41
I'm not sure Portland gets enough here.

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10 Dec 2017 19:35:00
Depends on Portlands finish. I assume they would tank. Vonleh instead of Nurkic maybe? Attempted to not let Cavs lose some rim protection. E. Davis, and Leonard are good enough defenders, but not rim protectors.

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10 Dec 2017 19:50:57
Portland gets completely screwed. I’m not sure I’d give up just Nurkic for that package, let along Lillard. Thomas is on an expiring deal and has a major injury. Shumpert has basically no value considering his contract. Just a horrible return.

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10 Dec 2017 22:59:10
Portland get screwed indeed :-) .
they should get the Nets pick, if they're going to tank.

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11 Dec 2017 00:30:49
Bmiller66 giving Lillard 30 mil a season for a guy who gets picked off on screens as easily as he does makes trading him difficult. Kyrie is ten times the player for as much money. They are looking at giving a lottery pick to the Cavs if they don't do something. Nurkic is still learning, but is always in foul trouble. Watch Lillard, and Nurkic attempt the pick n roll, it's atrocious. Lillard isn't a clever passer, and Nurkic hasn't been consistent from the perimeter. Swanigan has more upside, maybe Collins too. I agree though on they are valuable players, but both need distractions, their weaknesses aren't exploited so easily. Building around Lillard alone is a mistake.

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11 Dec 2017 02:03:20
Portland does not owe Cleveland a pick. Not sure where you’re getting that from, but Portland owns all of their firsts moving forward right now.

Also, Lillard is a top 20 player locked in for the next 4 years. Trading him is incredibly easy if the want. He has immense value.

And for Nurkic shortcomings, he’s an elite defender and a decent offensive player and still on his rookie deal. Again, he has big value.

You undervalue both of those guys a lot.

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11 Dec 2017 02:56:37
Portland traded 2018 1st rd. Pick to Cavs for their 2017 1st rd. Pick. Which I believe was Swanigan.

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11 Dec 2017 02:58:43
Nurkic hustles, and maybe doesn't have enough help, but he has been in foul trouble in almost every game this year. When he gets that fifth, the other team guts the blazers.

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11 Dec 2017 03:57:19
I like Nurkic, and I like Lillard. Not the way I like Boogie, AD, K. Irving, PG13,Porzingis, Kawhi, Durant, James, CP3,Harden, Dr. Green, Curry, Beal, B. Simmons, Antetonkounpo. Attempting to find a way to help teams help themselves. Pro Sports Transactions is where I got the pick info. Check for yourself. If Portland doesn't make moves, and other teams players stay healthy, they will find making the playoffs difficult. My opinion is just like everyone else's. If I'm stupid in your eyes I can handle that Bmiller66. Been called, and thought of worse I'm sure.

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11 Dec 2017 05:32:41
Portland traded the Cavs 2018 pick that they owned for the Cavs 2017 pick. It was never portlands own pick.

Nurkic is also 23. Foul trouble is common in young bigs, that doesn’t mean they should give him away, especially if they’re rebuilding. You don’t trade talented young bigs to rebuild.

I’m not completely against moving Lillard (ok, I kind of am), but not for this return. How does this return chance portland’s Future? They get a worse PG on a shorter contract with injuries? They get useless vets? If they move Lillard they’d want an elite prospect and a high end pick. Maybe something like Fultz, Saric, and 2 firsts from Phili.

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11 Dec 2017 07:24:37
@Bmiller66 couldn't find anything, or other team to make trades with Portland that will keep them in the playoff picture. Portland has assets, not a very good team. Nurkic, Lillard, Swanigan, Collins, Mccollum, Aminu, Conaton. 2 guys on that list don't play. One I had no idea of until 2 weeks ago. 2 seasons of playoff sweeps at the 8th seed had me thinking they wanted to improve on that, but maybe not. Their other players are not good, and no one trades lottery picks. Did my best. Proposing a realistic trade to improve fringe playoff teams is hard. Give it a shot. Then I'll either criticise, or praise. LA is gunning for the 8th spot this year, so your blazers had better start beating Dallas, and Phoenix, and Brooklyn, and all other non playoff teams. It's even harder to appease Portland fans. Sorry, Portland fans whine quite a bit up there. You should, 1977 is a long drought. 1991 was the last time you guys had a shot I think? Long time. Pelicans in the same Boat. They could be relocated even. Maybe the new Seattle. It's like trades involving NY, they are ok with Noah not playing, because they are content with the lottery this season. If I was a knick fan I would demand AD for our 1st rd. Pick. What are you going to do? I'd way rather have Porzingis than Lillard to build around though.

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10 Dec 2017 17:35:08
Portland: Teletovic, Dellavadova

Milwaukee: Leonard, Harkless,

Harkless good rotational player, who plays D, rebounds, hits 3's at about 35%. Leonard hits 3's, stretches the floor, and defended Boogie pretty good the other night. Portland could use Dellavadova's hustle, and grit. Teletovic used to hit 3's, if so, would fit in portland

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10 Dec 2017 16:55:47
Knicks: Randolph, Hill

Sacramento: O'Quinn, Kanter, Thomas

Knicks need guard help with Hardaway out, have a glut at center, and Randolph holds down paint so Porzingis, can be Porzingis. Hill is a better mentor for Ntilikina

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10 Dec 2017 23:00:00
I like this trade, but Kanter is playing good in NY, so i don't think they want to trade him.

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11 Dec 2017 04:00:08
He is playing well. 18 mil well though? He's tradable, and Gomez looks ok for a young guy, and they can't trade Noah. Obese contract. I thought 3 centers is about where you want to be Max. Porzingis, Gomez, Noah. That was my thinking anyway.

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10 Dec 2017 16:44:21
Portland: Boogie cousins

Pelicans: Swanigan, Harkless, Nurkic

Pels get wing help in Harkless, and upside in Swanigan, and Nurkic. Portland gets a Star who can be a go to guy, and a floor spacer.

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10 Dec 2017 16:55:06
Not terrible if NOs thinks they're about to lose Cousins, but they may want some assets with more upside. For Portland, I think they would have to have some assurances that Cousins would resign.

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10 Dec 2017 17:40:49
rkenne_16 completely agree about Boogie. Assurances he will sign Possibly switch that up a little with Rondo, and Mccollum. McCollum would compliment holiday, as Rondo would Lillard, throw in Hill to make salaries work, or a combination thereof?

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10 Dec 2017 18:25:15
The deal looks good would not entertain rondo for McCollum but.

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10 Dec 2017 18:42:48
Rad23, yeah Portland has to shore up its backcourt defensively, and ball handling wise. They aren't looking playoff bound if Lillard, or Mccollum, isn't dealt for a defensive player. Lillard is a better ball handler than Mccollum by quite a bit, plus Rondo, and Boogie are close friends. Added incentive.

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10 Dec 2017 20:50:36
The original deal is probably fair value for Cousins, and one I might gamble on (though, I hate Cousins, so I personally would pass on him overall, but that’s not the point) .

McCollum is waaaaaay more valuable than rondo. He’s more valuable than Cousins (because of contracts) . I wouldn’t offer either of portlands guards unless AD was involved (which he’s too valuable to do) .

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10 Dec 2017 23:01:04
I like this trade

Cousins would stay in Portland and Nurkic would stay in NO.

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11 Dec 2017 06:00:36
Bmiller66 my response after proposed trade was to rkenne_16, and was more of a suggestion as to what would keep cousins in Portland, and make trade happen. My trade proposal is what I would do as a GM. Get Boogie. Lillard can't carry a team. Defense wins championships. Name one starting point guard Lillard can hold under 20?

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