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18 Apr 2017 07:15:10
Alright this is wild theory crafting, but let me get your opinion on this. Melo's trade value has diminished greatly because it is no secret that he is being shopped. Therefore, this may be the best output the knicks will get.

Bulls Trade: Jimmy Butler, Denzel Valentine, and the Kings 2017 first round pick
Bulls Receive: Carmelo Anthony and the Nets 2017 first round pick

Celtics Trade: Avery Bradley, Jaylen Brown, and the Nets 2017 first round pick
Celtics Receive: Jimmy Butler and the Kings 2017 first round pick

Knicks Trade: Carmelo Anthony
Knicks Receive: Jaylen Brown, Denzel Valentine, and Avery Bradley

The Bulls do it for the chance at one of the point guards in the draft (Markelle Fukltz PLEASE) while also not dragging around Butler for a low seeded playoff appearance. Plus, Melo would fit into Hoiberg's offense nicely.

The celtics do it because Jimmy Butler is a HUGE upgrade to Avery Bradley on the wing while also being a superstar version of Brown. Butler also fits the celtics style of guard-centric play very well. They also get a Kings pick in return for Brown because he is valued a lot in Boston.

The Knicks do it because they can build around Bradly, Brown, Porzingis, and Hernangomez while also letting Melo go to a big market city. Again, this might be the best return for the Knicks altogether.

18 Apr 2017 07:35:15
I've been playing too much 2k. Swap the kings pick with the Bulls pick. Did not notice we did not have it.

18 Apr 2017 12:43:13
It's decent, but the C's may have an issue with giving up both Brown and the Nets pick in the same deal that doesn't bring them back two players.

18 Apr 2017 18:27:41
Take Brown out and give them a second rd.

19 Apr 2017 02:05:24
Billj, I don't think you would even need the 2nd. Bradley for Anthony would be best case scenario for the Knicks. More and more it's looking like the Knicks will get an expiring contract and a pick out of him. Even if someone offered more than one pick Melo could dictate the terms of the trade and a pick would be better than just waiting out his contract. I'm sure he wouldn't mind sticking to Jackson and helping his future team.

12 Apr 2017 23:31:21
Hawks get Melo
Knicks Harris Dunleavy
Piston get Bazemore Hawks 2018 1st

Schroder/Delaney/Morris-47
Bembry/Hardaway/fa
Melo/Prince/fa
Milsap/Bell/Kelly
Howard/Adebayo/Muscala

Max Lowry 4yr 30 mil per season
Stretch provision Noah

Lowry/Monk-6th/Mason-47
Lee/Dunleavy/Bluiett-58
Harris/Thomas/Kuzminskas
Porzingis/Kuzminskas/Inglis
Hernangomez/O'Quinn/Plumlee

13 Apr 2017 05:58:28
DET passes.

13 Apr 2017 12:23:05
Way, way, way too much for Anthony.

13 Apr 2017 15:45:26
Harris for Bazemore and a 1st and Detroit passes?

Supercollider, just stop man, seriously.

13 Apr 2017 22:49:49
Harris is better than Bazemore and has a better contract. ATL pick is late 1st. Yes, DET passes.

14 Apr 2017 12:31:41
Supercollider. You really should just stop. Lose credibility when all you do is haaaaaattttteeeee.

08 Apr 2017 03:58:31
NY Knicks offseason

-Trade Carmelo Anthony to Atlanta for Kent Bazemore and a future 1st

•Draft:
6- De'Aaron Fox (Kentucky)
47- Tyler Dorsey (Oregon)

•Free Agency:
-Sign Patty Mills 3yr 31m
-Sign Ben McLemore 2yr 13m
-Re-sign Ron Baker 2yr 9m

Lineup:
PG: Fox, Mills, Baker
SG: Lee, McLemore, Dorsey
SF: Bazemore, Thomas, Kuzminiskas
PF: Porzingis, O'Quinn, Ndour
C: Hernangomez, Noah, Plumlee.

08 Apr 2017 08:43:40
I could understand Atlanta doing this and I think Knicks would be smart to do so as well. The question as always is would Melo want to relocate to Atlanta.

I'm personally not sure which pg I'd prefer out of Fox and Smith Jr. Fox reminds me of a young Rondo with his defensive ability/ tenacity and lack of shooting (something I think will be a major issue at next level) . Smith isn't a great shooter either but shot a respectable 36% from 3 in college (Fox was around 25%) albeit as a streaky shooter and not a great FT shooter at 71%. Smith however has freakish athleticism (Fox is a good but not great athlete but is taller and longer than Smith) and I think better fits the mold of the new-age offensive minded guards. Smith did tear his ACL a few years ago and although it doesn't seem to have impacted him the injury history isn't nothing.

08 Apr 2017 13:58:07
Bazemore is a young player on the rise. Hawks would be crazy to give him up for Anthony, who is in decline and would cost Atlanta nearly $30 million after his trade kicker is factored in. Looks like Knicks are stuck with him.

09 Apr 2017 03:08:09
Supercollider has spoken.

09 Apr 2017 03:42:29
I think the Hawks would do that. Bazemore is going to be 28 this summer and really isn't on the rise and Hawks have depth at that position so he is expendable. Melo and Dwightmare are friends so they can coexist. Maybe Millsap would consider playing out his option if Mello was onboard. Interesting trade scenario.

05 Apr 2017 06:22:34
Which Carmelo Anthony trade works best for everyone?

1. Hawks
Melo for Bazemore and a future 1st

2. Pistons
Melo and O'Quinn for T. Harris and Leur

3. Heat
Melo for Winslow and Ellington

4. Lakers
Melo for Deng and Clarkson

I just don't see a Melo trade to Clippers given their cap situation this summer.

05 Apr 2017 09:44:23
Give me #3 and it isn't even close. If Knicks move on for Melo (as they probably should) then they should be focused around adding younger pieces to compliment Porzingis. Winslow is a solid young prospect that gives defensive versatility on the wing. With him and Knicks lotto pick they'd have two young prospects to develop with Porzingis. I think it would be a pretty foolish deal if I'm Miami however.

The Hawks deal probably makes the most sense for both sides in my opinion. Hawks go all-in on front court of Melo, Millsap and Howard while Knicks get a few years younger at sf and get a pick.

05 Apr 2017 12:05:16
Or do y'all have any other realistic trades that makes sense for everyone, including Melo?

05 Apr 2017 14:19:10
A realistic trade for Anthony would be a No. 1 draft pick in the 15 to 25 range. Can't believe Riley would bite on an overpaid, over-32 ball-stopper, especially considering the way the team has played over the last month and a half.

05 Apr 2017 18:42:31
Surprise surprise. Supercollider echos his same baseless statement. Was that based of him making the offense worse? Fool.

05 Apr 2017 19:03:06
Lmao super duper.

05 Apr 2017 19:50:26
Laker get Melo Noah Pistons 1st 58th
Knicks get Deng Harris Jackson Laker 2nd
Detriot get Clarkson Mosgov NY 1st

Jackson
Lee
Deng
Harris
Porzingis.

06 Apr 2017 15:23:36
That 2# one should have happened fourteen years ago :-)

The most likely scenario is that Silver force Cleveland to accept the K Love for Anthony trade. In return Cleveland get two 1# overal draft picks after LBJ retires.
Oh and NY will fall in the top two in this years draft so they can draft Fullz or Ball.

06 Apr 2017 21:24:22
Harris, Jackson and a 1st for Clarkson, Mozgov and a 1st? NO THANKS!!

28 Mar 2017 01:37:16
Pacers offseason

Indiana-New York

Indiana : D.Rose (s&t 2yr/36mil)
* i don't know what kind of contract he wants or he would get , you can have your opinion

New York : M.Ellis

Indiana-Atlanta

Indiana : M.Muscala & 2017 + 2018 2nd round picks

Atlanta : T.Young

sign JJ Reddick 3yr/60mil

draft Harry Giles

D.Rose-R.Stuckey
J.Reddick-G.Robinson
P.George-C.Miles
M.Turner-M.Muscala-Giles
A.Jefferson-K.Seraphin

28 Mar 2017 05:09:16
Pacers have enough cap space to sign Rose outright although the way Ellis has been playing getting rid of him and his contract may be a good thing (would also allow for Reddick signing) . Don't understand why Pacers would give up Thaddeus Young for that little. He has played pretty well this season and really improved his shooting from 3.

Overall I don't see these moves improving Pacers at all and doesn't put them in a better position to retain George (I think indy should just trade him) .

28 Mar 2017 21:12:30
If the Knicks are not resigning Rose, it's to create more cap space to for other options. Adding Ellis' salary kills that opportunity. No from Knicks.

Also agree that Young is worth more than that deal.

21 Mar 2017 00:53:20
ATL/CHI/CHA

ATL get Robin Lopez & MKG

Pg Shroeder
Sg THJ
Sf MKG
Pf Millsap
Ce Lopez

CHI get Dwight Howard & Kent Bazemore

Pg MCW
Sg Bazemore
Sf Butler
Pf Portis
Ce Howard

CHA get Dwayne Wade & ATL 2nd round pick

Pg Walker
Sg Wade
Sf Batum
Pf Zeller
Ce Kaminsky

21 Mar 2017 07:05:06
Incremental changes at best. Doesn't make much sense for ATL to move Howard and Bazemore for Lopez and MKG unless they are trying to clear some cap space but with Millsap an upcoming FA they won't have any for long.

I think Chicago should go the rebuild direction but the value for them here is solid. Sure Howard isn't what he used to be but even with a decent amount of cap space (if Dwade opts out which looks unlikely after injury) there is no guarantee they could get someone of his caliber in FA. Bazemore is another solid piece although a bit pricey.

Don't like this trade for Hornets since Wade isn't the missing piece at this point in his career so they'd be better off keeping MKG who although he may never develop a real offensive game can still influence games the way Tony Allen used to through grit and hard defense.

09 Mar 2017 00:49:06
ATL/DEN

ATL get Emmanuel Mudiay & Will Barton

Pg Mudiay
Sg Barton
Sf Bazemore
Pf Millsap
Ce Howard

DEN get Dennis Shroeder & 2 2nd round picks

Pg Shroeder
Sg Harris/Murray
Sf Chandler
Pf Faried
Ce Jokic

09 Mar 2017 08:01:34
I don't think its completely awful but Hawks would likely want some more since with big bucks committed to Howard and them likely to give big bucks to Millsap this summer not sure how much they'd want to get a younger rawer pg in Mudiay even if it means adding a solid young piece in Barton too. I certainly don't think they should be giving up 2 2nd rounders too. Not sure what ATLs cap situation looks like but since they have Millsap's bird rights this trade could potentially clear some money for them to get a decent FA which may make it more attractive.

Wouldn't be a bad deal for Denver who'd turn some of their depth into a pg upgrade and one who is still fairly young and signed long term. I think they'd likely have to give up a little more to convince Hawks tho.

06 Mar 2017 17:01:49
Hawks - Bazemore

sign Danillo Gallanari

Magic - Augustin and Henzonja

draft Dennis Smith

Schredor
THJ/Henzonja
Gallo
Milsap
D12

Smith
Fournier
Bazemore
Gordon
Vucevic

23 Feb 2017 00:57:41
sixers trade ilysova

hawks trade splitter

embiid okafor noel holmes splitter all center starting 5

23 Feb 2017 04:27:07
Stupid trade for 76ers. Ilyasova had been ballin in Philly.

22 Feb 2017 00:28:13
OKC - Kanter Abrines Sabonis 17 1st round (Picks for Atlanta at draft) 20 1st round
ATL- Millsap, Patterson, Muscala

OKC- Roberson, Singler 17 2nd Round, 19 2nd Round, 17 2nd Round (from Memphis)
DEN- Chandler

OKC- Payne, Morrow 18 2nd round (from Boston)
SAC- Collison, McClemore

Russ/ Collison
Oladipo/ McClemore
Chandler/ Grant
Millsap/ Grant, Collison, Lauvergne
Adams/ Lauvergne, Collison

21 Feb 2017 04:42:37
Boston, Chicago, Atlanta, Detroit

Boston gets Butler, Morris

Chicago gets Brown, Rozier, Zeller, Nets '17
Det '19 1st, Mem 1st

Atlanta gets Johnson, Leur, Boban,
'17 det 1st, 2nd chi

Detroit gets Crowder, Milsap

Celtics would have a star at sf to pair with IT and a cheap backup. This team could win the east.

Bulls reset and get prospects and 3 1st round picks to help land a star to add to these young guys.

Hawks need to move Paul before he walks for nothing. A few picks and Stanley Johnson could help rebuild quickly.

Pistons needs shooting and defense badly. This is a no brainer.

21 Feb 2017 05:51:17
I don't think Hawks do it. There aren't very many teams that can offer Millsap a max contract and the ones that can are mostly rebuilding teams so I don't think there is that large of a risk of them losing him. Regardless if they wanted to actually deal him I think they could get a better return than that.

21 Feb 2017 04:01:32
Pacers-Hawks

Pacers trade Thaddeus Young, Monta Ellis, and 1st round pick to the Hawks for Paul Millisap and Thabo Sefalosha

Pacers Lineup:

PG: Teague, Stuckey, Brooks, Young
SG: Sefalosha, Miles
SF: George, Robinson III, Christmas
PF: Millisap, Allen, Niang
C: Turner, Jefferson, Seraphin.

21 Feb 2017 04:18:08
I had this same idea back in December, but I don't think the Hawks are going to pull the trigger on Millsap after they said they wouldn't be trading him.

21 Feb 2017 04:20:19
Love it for Pacers but with Hawks major threat to take Millsap the Raptors likely out of the picture after getting Ibaka there aren't too many teams with the cap space to offer Millsap the max. Atlanta has his Bird rights so they can do so and there isn't quite as much risk of losing him.

Regardless I don't think it would be a bad trade for Atlanta gaining a younger player in Young who is signed a few more years and really improved his 3pt shooting as well as a draft pick and a sixth man in Ellis who although in a down year could help Hawks in the playoffs.

21 Feb 2017 02:42:11
Pacers need to take steps to improve their team or fear not being able to resign George. They need to prove to him they are serious about winning.

Hawks get: Thaddeus Young, Monta Ellis, Jefferson, Stuckey and Indy 2017 1st rounder

Pacers get: Millsap, Splitter, Sefolosha and THJ

Hawks get a solid return for Millsap that keeps them competitive in short term but gives them more certainty for the long term without fear of losing him in FA.

Pacers get an all-star to add to George, Turner and Teague while also adding some solid bench pieces and clearing up cap space to resign both Teague and Millsap in offseason without cutting into luxury (although they most likely would in future if resigned George) .

With their Bird rights Pacers would be the favorites to sign both Teague and Millsap. Only the Bulls, 76ers, Kings, Nets and Nuggets have enough cap space to offer Millsap the max and Pacers would clearly be the best location from a fit and basketball perspective for Millsap.

19 Feb 2017 04:53:27
Hawks-Knicks

Hawks get Carmelo Anthony and Kyle O'Quinn

Knicks get Kent Bazemore, Tiago Splitter, Twolves 2018 protected 1st, and a future 2nd.

16 Feb 2017 13:00:40
Phoenix-Atlanta-Philadelphia

Phoenix get Okafor (PHI)

Atlanta get Tucker (PHO)

Philadelphia get Splitter (ATL, he's injured so philly can shut him down for the season and let his contract expire while getting closer to the salary floor), 2018 MIA 1st (PHO), and 2017 2nds from MIA and BKN (owned by ATL)

16 Feb 2017 13:58:42
2018 Miami pick is a bit of a wildcard since they could be sellers or buyers between then and significantly change their fortune. I think Phoenix would be smart to put minimally a top 5 protection on it especially since 76ers are getting two early 2nd rounders anyway. Otherwise I like it for Phx. ATL is paying a bit of a premium for Tucker imo since both BKN and Miami's 2nds should be early in the second making them practically more valuable than a late first due to the non-guarantee status. They should probably only be giving up 1 and change the other to their own 2018 2nd.

For Sixers I think its a solid return on Okafor. The situation is getting a bit out of control and I think they need to deal him and for what he has been rumored to go for I think this isn't a bad deal. Although the 2018 draft is big man heavy they can hopefully find one that better fits their roster. The early 2nd rounder in this years draft could also help them add bench depth on the wing cheaply.

16 Feb 2017 14:10:27
The reason why I chose the 2018 Miami 1st was b/ c it was already top 7 protected and the Suns 1st this year is too valuable.

16 Feb 2017 14:17:16
It's a good trade on paper, but Phoenix already has a lot of bugs. Chandler, Len, Chriss, and bender. That would just logjam them like the sixers are now.

16 Feb 2017 17:08:00
I's a a logg jam, but they should let Len walk and Chandler is aging.
Okafor-Bender-Chriss can become good.

16 Feb 2017 17:23:07
Suns say no. they're not giving up a first rounder for a guy who only averages 11 points in a league that plays no def. By trading okafor, rather than noel they risk losing both since noel is a free agent, yet they still keep pushing okafor on the trade market. what's that tell you?

16 Feb 2017 04:20:07
Hawks are looking to help the team

Hawks/Bucks

Splitter and 2nd via Brooklyn for Henson

Henson offers good D and offers a better backup Howard

Bucks get another expiring contract that opens time for Thon

14 Feb 2017 13:16:05
Atlanta-Minnesota-Dallas

Dallas gets Ricky Rubio, Brandon Rush, and Jordan Hill

Atlanta gets Deron Williams, Andrew Bogot

Minnesota gets T. Splitter and Kent Bazemore.

14 Feb 2017 14:01:28
Why would Atlanta do this?

14 Feb 2017 18:56:34
Why would Minnesota do this?

12 Feb 2017 01:06:39
5 realistic Aron Baynes trades I see the Pistons making at the deadline.

Pistons get
Shabazz Muhammad

Wolves get
Aron Baynes
2017 2nd round pick


Pistons get
Tim Hardaway Jr.

Hawks get
Aron Baynes
2017 2nd round pick


Pistons get
Trey Burke

Wizards get
Aron Baynes
Future first round pick


Pistons get
Anthony Morrow

OKC gets
Aron Baynes
2nd round pick


Pistons get
Dante Cunningham

Pelicans get
Aron Baynes

12 Feb 2017 04:20:11
None of these make any sense for the other team.

12 Feb 2017 04:27:43
Well. Pistons don't have a 2017 2nd round pick

Also, the Pistons are looking to get cheap options and getting picks not trading them

Also, the burke trade is not even. adding a future 1st rounder makes no sense as baynes for burke may be enough.

13 Feb 2017 02:34:58
lol. i am trying to figure out who wants baynes to begin with.

11 Feb 2017 17:56:11
hawks : knight, tucker
suns : sefolosha, humphries, muscala

11 Feb 2017 19:11:33
Suns hang up laughing.

12 Feb 2017 08:27:51
Garbage trade for Suns. I agree!

11 Feb 2017 04:36:16
Pistons need to spice up their team a little bit.

Detroit gets
Tim Hardaway Jr

Hawks get
Aron Baynes and a 2017 2nd round pick.

 
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