19 Jan 2017 13:12:19
So a P. J. Tucker trade is getting a lot traction, so I'd thought I'd compile a list of what some of these interested teams would have to give up to get Tucker.
Clippers: Luc Mbah a Moute, Brice Johnson, Alan Anderson
Bulls: Denzel Valentine, Isaiah Canaan, Paul Zipser
Cavaliers: Richard Jefferson, Chris Anderson, Jordan Mcrae
T-Wolves: Brandon Rush, 2018 2nd
Hawks: Mike Scott, Malcolm Delaney
Knicks: Lance Thomas, more favorable of CHI and HOU 2017 2nd
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19 Jan 2017 13:12:19
18 Jan 2017 19:11:16
Realistic trade for the Knicks and melo and melo will agree.
Knicks and cavs.
Knicks trade Melo and rose
Cavs trade shumpert, Jr smith and thristan Thompson.
Knicks get three starters for two guys not in their future.
Cavs get lebrons friend in melo and a sg or back up pg in rose.
Cavs starting five
18 Jan 2017 20:10:34
Reasonable trade but I reckon the Cavs will want to keep Tristan, I could see that deal happening though, I think Knicks have to accept they not going to get any sort of value for Melo, they better trading him for expiring contracts
18 Jan 2017 20:20:36
Thanks for the back up Tre lol don't know if it's enough for NY but I would do this but if it isn't enough offer rights to Cedi or a second round pick or McRae or Liggins if they want one of those two.
18 Jan 2017 20:24:03
Cavs say no only because it leaves them threadbare at center.
Why not replace Thompson with Frye, sending a whole bunch of Ex Knicks home!
18 Jan 2017 20:32:37
Thompson must be included to get this deal. They have Anderson as a back up center if needed so not a terrible back up. The cavs get melo and rose. Two legit piece that may. bridge the gap for the cavs to beat the warriors. Right now I truely don't think the cavs can do it with what they have.
18 Jan 2017 20:35:29
I think those kind of minor pieces are more of annoyance in this kind of trade. They can be added but don't bring any real value back to the Knicks. Knicks real gets in this deal are shumpert and Thompson. Young guys one semi- friendly deals. I like thompsons rebounding next to prozingus. And smith and shumpert can both shoot a bit so that should spread the floor.
18 Jan 2017 20:48:14
Unfortunately Phil won't do a trade unless he gets back Love
18 Jan 2017 21:12:04
If I was Cavs I would need O'Quinn so I have a center. Anderson is out for season so they'd have Frye and Love to play center and its neither's preferred position. I don't think Rose should be part of the deal (they can get a cheaper and easier to acquire backup pg elsewhere or in FA) . I don't really like Melo in that starting lineup I think he'd be more valuable as go to scorer off the bench and that way (if they get another center) Love can go back to pf where I think he would be more effective.
Overall don't like the trade for Cavs. They are giving up 3 best defenders. That starting lineup wouldn't have any interior defensive presence and Melo and Love are both horrible on defense.
18 Jan 2017 01:56:26
Cleveland Cavaliers - Dallas Mavericks
Cleveland Cavaliers trade: Two future second round picks, cash considérations.
Dallas Mavericks trade: Devin Harris
18 Jan 2017 12:24:42
I'd rather see :
Cavs get Andrew Bogut
Mavs get Shumpert, rights to Sir'Dominic Pointer, and a 2nd
17 Jan 2017 21:28:12
3 team trade.
Knicks look to the future
Cavs receive Melo and depth
Philadelphia capitalizes on cap space
2 future second round picks from Sixers
2 future second round picks
Shumpert/ Staukas/ Holiday
Lee/ Kuzminskas/ Thomas/ N'Dour
Porzingis/ Noel/ Frye
Noah/ Hernangomez/ Plumlee
*cut Baker, Vujacic
Rose/ McConnell/ Jennings/ Randle
Embiid/ Holmes/ Saric
Korver/ Smith/ Liggins/ McRae
Melo/ Jefferson/ Jones
17 Jan 2017 21:41:45
Way way way too much going on for it to happen.
17 Jan 2017 21:47:18
I think for Melo to work on that team he'd have to come off the bench. If he is willing to do that I actually like the trade for them although it doesn't really address their key issues of not having a backup center (I don't think Love could play major minutes at center and be as effective as he is at pf) or pg.
At this point I think Knicks need to deal Melo and the return is likely not going to be too appealing. This return isn't great especially when you factor in Knicks are giving up more than just Melo. They do get two young guys with decent upside in Noel and Stauskas but both have low trade value right now.
The Sixers return isn't all that great either. Jennings and Rose are upcoming FA and getting Thompson doesn't really solve their loaded center issue (although he has significant trade value if another team was brought in) . The Sixers aren't really giving too much up either tho.
17 Jan 2017 21:55:17
Kinda just seems like every team is getting rid of their garbage (besides Melo)
18 Jan 2017 00:51:56
Kinda amazing how ritequick is the cavs version of ddrainer. Terrible trades where only his home team wins. Great.
17 Jan 2017 19:45:41
Tor and Orl
Tor get Ibaka
Orl get Ross and the later of their 1st rounders
Tor build a big 3 and make them even more of a threat in the East Ibaka has shown solid two play this year and his extended range only adds to the Raptors arsenal.
Orl get a sf which they really lack Ross is still a good player whose scoring would help bring balance whether he can post big numbers night in night out will be the question and they can move Gordon to Pf which seems to be a better fit. I've given the Magic a 1st as even though Ibaka is expiring Raptors get considerable better making them a threat to the Cavs and after what Magic gave up they wouldn't except anything less
17 Jan 2017 20:22:29
Their GM can't make that move. He just gave up a ton for Ibaka.
17 Jan 2017 20:29:48
On paper a fair trade, not sure as Ibaka a free agent this summer, do you gamble knowing you could lose him in the summer
17 Jan 2017 09:28:03
NOLA/ PHX/ CLE
NOLA get PJ Tucker
PHX get 2nd round pick CAVS and rights to Cedi Osman
CLE get Alexis Ajinca
17 Jan 2017 10:59:56
Ajinca is not worth Osman
17 Jan 2017 05:30:19
Cavs and knicks
Cavs get carmelo anthony
Knicks get kevin love
1 on 1 trade
buyout month get tyson chandler
17 Jan 2017 05:37:58
Doubt Tyson Chandler will get bought out this year
17 Jan 2017 06:36:35
There's no way chandler gets waived. He's still owed $26 million over the next two years after this year. He's also still producing enough to have some value.
17 Jan 2017 11:53:00
Cavs would be foolish to deal Love straight up for Melo. It is especially foolish this late in the season where the risk of messing up chemistry and the locker room far outweighs any benefit Melo may bring (although I don't see it) . The most common reason I see as why Cavs should trade for Melo is since he and Lebron are friends.
I think offensively Melo would be a poor fit alongside Lebron and Irving since they all need the ball in their hand and Melo has been used to this role his entire career. There would be a significant adjustment period (similar to what was seen with Love) that would set them back. Love is a better spot up shooter and one of the best passers for his position so I think offensively he is a much better fit. Defensively they are both trash. On the boards Love has a significant advantage. Then from a GM perspective Love is 5 years younger, signed longer, and is cheaper.
The only way I could imagine Melo on the Cavs is if he is willing to play off the bench and Cavs get more pieces in the deal like O'Quinn, Lee and Jennings (Cavs would have to deal Shumpert and use trade exception to make it work)
17 Jan 2017 13:29:25
Agreed Jaw, if Melo moving it's in the off season, Melo value at the minute is very low
17 Jan 2017 15:48:42
Idk if cavs want melo. I know lebron and him are friends but melo is a ball hog. And only getting older. This trade was suggested in the beginning of the year and I said absolutely and fair value and Knicks should do this immediately. unfortunately Knicks got ahead of themselves and thought they could sign mediocre guys and rise to the top. now Melos value is much less and I just don't think he can bring much more then maybe a future unprotected pick. His contract, age, and repuatation don't go in his favor. His numbers are great but his number are always good to great. that's what happens when your a ball hog.
15 Jan 2017 21:41:41
Trade: Cleveland Cavaliers - Minnesota Timberwolves - New York Knicks
CLE get Carmelo Anthony, 2 highly protected 1sts from MIN and NYK
MIN get Kevin Love, Derrick Rose
NYK get Andrew Wiggins, Kris Dunn or Ricky Rubio + cap fillers (Pekovic, Aldrich etc. )
Just an idea: Cavs get Anthony, who could start as SF, while James switches to 4 (or the other way round obviously) . Minnesota then gets a nice home coming story with Kevin Love, who should fit perfectly alongside Towns. Muhammad could start at 3.
Also, Thibs reunites with his old protege Derrick Rose. To include Noah for this reason would be nice too, but his contract seems to make this impossible. The Knicks on the other side could build around a young core of Porzingis and Wiggins plus either Dunn or Rubio (Hornacek maybe would favor Rubio here, as he may have less upside than Dunn, but as a veteran and pass-first PG may be easier / better to work with) .
Btw, the initial trade idea here was Melo to CLE, Love to MIN and Wiggins to NYK. Personally I think, as bright as his future will be, that Andrew Wiggins doesn't really fit to Tom Thibodeau's system, while a stretch 4 like Kevin Love could help immediately.
15 Jan 2017 23:13:58
Sorry, Minnesota passes. Carmella no longer worth a young player like Wiggins. And you want Minnesota to give up a 1st along with Dunn or Rubio, while taking on Rose. Take that weak crap out of here.
16 Jan 2017 00:42:44
Melo has no value now! Cleveland won't shake up their roster now! They have great chemistry! Why screw that up?
16 Jan 2017 02:38:28
HA! Good luck getting that value back for melo and rose. Lol they have little value. Both are ball hogs and both are aging and on and contracts. Rose is going to ask for max. so I considered that.
16 Jan 2017 04:15:55
Yeah Knicks are getting too much here. Wolves pass.
16 Jan 2017 10:25:49
Timberwolves ain't trading Wiggins and Dunn away, Rubio would be possible to get
Rose trade value is non existence, he a free agent in the summer, Knicks be lucky to get a 2nd rounder for him now
Melo has a no trade clause so unless he joins a contender team ie Clippers, Cavs he going to use it, the Knicks have 2 options, work with what they got and get possibly the 7-8 seed or blow up their team right now trade Melo to a contender team for expiring contracts and picks, create some cap space and rebuild this off season, Knicks will not get trade value for Melo now
15 Jan 2017 17:21:07
Cle: C Anthony+ P Milssap
NY: Fry+ Smith+ 1rnd pick Atl 17+ 1rnd pick Wolves 18
Atl: K Love
17 Jan 2017 20:33:12
This makes the Cavs worse. They are looking for cheap role players not a whole sale make over. At best they are getting equal production ( they are probably getting worse on the defensive end and the ball will stick more on offense) . What is the point?
15 Jan 2017 15:44:52
Knicks finally deal Melo:
Clippers get : Melo, Baker, Ndour
Knicks get: Rivers, Crawford, Brice Johnson, Clippers 2017 first unprotected
I don't think I need to explain why Clippers do it. I think Knicks and Melo are finally realizing it won't work out together and its best both go separate ways. I think this is best they can hope to get since I don't see Cavs shaking up things this late and Love is a better fit not being as ball dominate and providing passing and rebounding at a high level.
I also think Melo would have a cancerous effect on a young Lakers team. Clippers make a ton of sense but I don't think they'd want to deal their big 3 to make it happen so they have limited assets. Clippers definitely are big winners of this trade but I think Knicks need to begin the Porzingis chapter and should take whatever they can get for Melo.
15 Jan 2017 16:38:31
This is a joke, not even a thought given by the knicks.
15 Jan 2017 16:47:56
You cannot construct a trade in which a team taking Anthony wins the deal.
15 Jan 2017 17:13:18
I think Toronto owns the Clippers pick.
i'm not sure NY would get a better offer and they should trade melo, but i don't think they're going to give him for free
15 Jan 2017 18:37:42
Toronto has the Clippers pick. I know that because we (the Bucks) traded it for Grevies Vasquez :(((((
15 Jan 2017 19:21:58
Melo has not realized it's not working, he just yesterday reiterated that he won't waive his no trade clause.
I wish he would, but it's unfortunately not going to happen.
15 Jan 2017 19:21:58
Melo has not realized it's not working, he just yesterday reiterated that he won't waive his no trade clause.
I wish he would, but it's unfortunately not going to happen.
16 Jan 2017 01:30:50
Today he said he would discuss trades
15 Jan 2017 06:38:12
Cavs Lakers Knicks
15 Jan 2017 14:42:52
Melo should've allowed Knicks to trade him much sooner as his value is down big time. He said he'd be willing to go to either LA teams or Cleveland. Even if Cleveland could get Melo without giving up Love not sure I like him going to Cleveland unless he is alright coming off the bench. This particular offer wouldn't work since Cavs would have basically no centers on their roster. Knicks would have to give the O'Quinn or something for it to work for them.
The return for the Knicks is pretty underwhelming especially having to take Deng's contract back.
I could see Lakers being interested in that offer. Thompson would give them a youngish center to add to their core, Shumpert could be a solid starting two guard. I don't see Rose being in Lakers long term plans but he is valuable as an expiring contract to dump Deng's contract.
15 Jan 2017 15:39:34
Knicks and Lakers don't do that.
16 Jan 2017 00:28:16
The Lakers aren't going to give up Williams or Clarkson because their the Lakers best scorers. I would trade instead of them Ingram and Mozgov because your getting an MVP in Derrick Rose but if u trade Clarkson and Williams then it should be for an All Star PG like Lowry or Thomas
15 Jan 2017 02:15:24
Cavs get Jordan Hill and a 2nd rd pick
-Then sign a point guard or playmaking wing (Lance Stephenson, Jarrett Jack, MARIO Chalmers, Norris Cole)
Twolves get Iman Shumpert
15 Jan 2017 00:17:11
Cleveland Cavaliers - Boston Celtics
Cleveland Cavaliers trade: Kevin Love.
Boston Celtics trade: Avery Bradley, Jae Crowder and Terry Rozier.
15 Jan 2017 05:48:51
No way Cavs and Celtics do a trade with each other this year
14 Jan 2017 16:43:40
Cleveland Cavaliers - Portland Trail Blazers
Cleveland Cavaliers trade: Future first round draft pick, two second round draft picks.
Portland Trail Blazers trade: Shabazz Napier, Noah Vonleh.
14 Jan 2017 19:54:31
I'd like to see Cavs get more established players than these. This would allow them to get more bang for their buck as they don't have to pay for a player like Vonleh's upside and they'd get the help they need when they need it; now.
14 Jan 2017 22:38:25
The only reason why I would say no is because the Cavs don't have any picks to give. They can't trade a first rounder now till 2021 and we have one 2018 2nd round pick but no others till 2021 so in this scenario the Cavs would most likely have to give up 2021 first round 2018 second and 2021 second round. That leaves the Cavs with the 2018 and 2020 first round picks and barely any assets to use in trades for the next few years. From this logic this trade is illogical.
15 Jan 2017 05:19:29
Cavs are only trading picks for players that can move the needle, even if only slightly. That means wings or a 3pt shooting back up point guard.
14 Jan 2017 04:35:07
Cavs - Pelicans
Cavs get Tyreke Evans
Pelicans get Iman Shumpert and rights to Sir'Dominic Pointer
14 Jan 2017 11:06:51
I believe Shumpert has been playing better this past year and is essentially the same type of player as Evans but hasn't had a major injury lately either so value for the Cavs is higher on Shumpert I would believe
13 Jan 2017 00:38:05
orlando get: zach lavine, terrence ross, nemanja bjelica and jakob poeltl
orlando trade: nikola vucevic, serge ibaka and jodie meeks
minnesota get: nikola vucevic and jodie meeks
minnesota trade: zach lavine and nemanja bjelica
toronto get: serge ibaka
toronto trade: terrence ross and jakob poeltl
orlando get some scoring power from ross and lavine and can move gordon into his natural PF position and create a new athletic looking team
minnesota get a solid big man on a good contract in vucevic to pair up with towns and help him out in the frontcourt
toronto make a move to compete with the cavs in the eastern conference in getting ibaka, although in the final year of his contract he will fit well in the team and is worth the risk in getting
13 Jan 2017 11:33:45
Minnesota says hell no.
13 Jan 2017 15:19:00
it would work but wolves wouldn't trade lavine
12 Jan 2017 22:10:11
Celtics get Nikola Vucevic and Nerlens Noel
76ers get Mario Hezonja
Magic get Amir Johnson, Kelly Olynyk, 2018 Brooklyn 1st, and Cavs 2017 2nd (via Celtics)
12 Jan 2017 22:24:20
Celtics will not part with either of their Brooklyn picks without getting a top-level player in return. That said, both Vucevic and Noel could help a lot as Boston needs help on the front line. Johnson, Olynyk and three non-Brooklyn No. 1 would be better.
13 Jan 2017 02:33:55
Johnson and olynyk have no value. You have to give something to get something. That being said, the sixers don't do this.
13 Jan 2017 13:09:23
Henzonja doesn't play. Sixers need more of a return
12 Jan 2017 02:11:47
Was playing around with the Trade Machine today and found probably one of the best deals for both teams.
Toronto gets: Hassan Whiteside, Derrick Williams, 2019 2nd.
Miami gets: Jonas Valanciunas, Delon Wright, and DeMarre Carroll, 2019 2nd.
Miami releases Luke Babbitt
Toronto signs Lance Stephenson.
Lowry/ Joseph/ VanVleet
Ross/ Stephenson/ Williams/ Caboclo
Patterson/ Siakim/ Sullinger
Whiteside/ Poeltl/ Nogiuera
Dragic/ Johnson/ Wright
Richardson/ Waiters/ Ellington/ McGruder
Bosh/ J. Johnson/ McRoberts
Valanciunas/ Reed/ Haslem
Miami can still rebuild while acquiring a starting center that is 3 years younger, a prospect point guard, and a veteran small forward to put up decent numbers and mentor their younger players (Justise Winslow, Josh Richardson) .
On the other hand, the Toronto Raptors can actually have a chance at beating Cleveland by picking up an all-star caliber center that is already developed instead of waiting for Valanciunas to progress over the years. They also recieve Derrick Williams who can help back up Terrence Ross because DeMarre is gone.
12 Jan 2017 06:50:21
MIA would probably ask for a 1st round pick if they are to trade Whiteside
12 Jan 2017 14:18:33
Would you think it would work if I gave another 2nd and a first to Miami?
12 Jan 2017 18:35:37
Miami gains nothing from doing this deal and is trading the best player by far
11 Jan 2017 20:05:06
Cleveland sends Shumpert, Mccrae, Anderson, 2 2nd round picks, and the Dunleavy trade exception to Dallas for Bogut and Devin Harris.
11 Jan 2017 20:13:29
Wait. So a terrible contract. A season ending knee injury. And 2 second rounders for that? Oh. Sure. Why not.
11 Jan 2017 20:53:45
I don't think that Shumpert has a bad contract. Look at the contracts that were given out this last free agency. I may be under valuing Bogut though. Trading in a first for one of the 2nds and possibly the rights to Cedi Osman might get it done. Neither player seems to be part of the Mavs future and with younger and better players at the guard and center position on the block, the Cavs might not have much in the way of competition to try and get Bogut.
11 Jan 2017 21:00:37
Shumperts contract is nothing compared to what similiar free agents are getting on the open market and there are younger and more talented players at the center position that are on the block. There are only a teams that are looking for an older player that can help their team now. The Warriors could use a center, but don't have the players to match salaries, the Trailblazers are looking for a center but probably want some one younger, and outside of those two there aren't many teams looking to give up assets to improve now. I may be slightly under valuing Bogut, but at most I'm a future first round pick off.
11 Jan 2017 19:32:50
Cavs trade Mccrae, Shumpert, Chris Anderson, 2019 1st rd pick (if 1-10 which is dropped after the first year), a future 2nd to the 76ers for Sergio Rodriguez and Noel.
The Cavs get a decent back up pg and a talented young rim protector and the 76ers two young talented wing players that should help this year and could be in the rotation for years, financial flexibility, the Noel problem/ log jam at the center gone, and future picks that should create flexibility down the line.
11 Jan 2017 20:14:19
This is flat out moronic. Shumpert. Sucks and bad contract. Anderson. Season ending injury. You're a fool
11 Jan 2017 20:40:09
How is Shumpert's contract bad? He's a solid rotation player shooting over 40 percent from 3, can create when given a chance, is a great athlete, and is one of the better wing defenders in the league. He is signed to a contract that is 1/ 10 of the salary cap. If you look at the contracts that players are signing in free agency that is market value. Anderson is thrown in to make the salaries match. Philly will either have to trade Noel, lose him to free agency, or match a 60 million dollar offer sheet and tie up a ton of cap on a player that won't be in the rotation. Teams don't want to give up a ton for him, because of his knee surgeries and rumors about his attitude. Rodriguez isn't part of their long term plans.
16 Jan 2017 05:28:26
You don't get it. Your team is the team IN NEED. Philly has its Center of the future in Embiid (which everyone here talked rubbish about him until now. Now they wish he was there Center! ) but anyways. Noel and Okafor are assets! Just like a draft pick, they can be moved to a new team. So WE ARE IN NO RUSH TO TRADE ANYONE. If a team does make Noel a CRAZY offer during RESTRICTED FREE-AGENCY, ok GREAT. But I'm sure, we will have TWO TOP 10picks in this 2017 Draft, unless we trade one of them.? (La-Lakers and Sixers picks) So now, explain why we would do this above trade?
That's right, we wouldn't.!