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17 Aug 2017 09:59:25
CLE-SAS

to CLE - Aldridge,Green,2018 1st

to SAS - James

17 Aug 2017 13:21:16
Wish that was a sign and trade option. Sick of the 'king' and his drama.

17 Aug 2017 07:43:45
Trades these teams need to make before the 2018 Playoffs!

Lakers : Jordan Clarkson + Luol Deng for Dwyane Wade

Celtics: Jayson Tatum for

Rockets: Trevor Ariza + Tarik Black + Eric Gordon for Carmelo Anthony

Cleveland: Iman Shumpert for Kyle Anderson

OKC: Enes Kanter + Andre Roberson for Dwayne Wade + Cristiano Felicia

Minnesota: Gorgui Deng + Tyus Jones for Greg Monroe + Tyus Jones

NYK: Carmelo Anthony + Joakim Noah for Malik Monk + Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

Suns: Eric Bledsoe + Brandon Knight for Dante Exum + 2018 First Round Pick

PHI: Jahlil Okafor + Robert Covington for T.J. Warren + Brandon Knight or
Kent Bazemore

Kings: Kosta Koufous for Wesley Johnson

Bucks : Greg Monroe + Mirza Teletovic for Kent Bazemore + Miles Plumlee

Pelicans: Frank Jackson + 2018 First Round Pick for Tobias Harris

Nuggets: Emmanuel Mudiay + Will Barton + Kenneth Faried for Nicolas Batum

Spurs: Patty Mills + Kyle Anderson + 2018 First Round Pick for Eric Bledsoe

Wizards: Markieff Morris + Kelly Oubre for Keneth Faried

Raptors: Kyle Lowry + C.J. Miles +Serge Ibaka + 2018 1st Round Pick for Kyrie Irving + Iman Shumpert

This last one hurts the most.

17 Aug 2017 07:50:41
almost all are way off.

17 Aug 2017 10:13:08
like which ones.

17 Aug 2017 11:48:35
Can't say for sure, but I tend to doubt that Celtics would be willing to give Tatum away for nothing.

17 Aug 2017 12:00:47
Why would Minnesota want Monroe? And why trade for Tyus Jones when they have Tyus Jones?

17 Aug 2017 03:57:43
CLE Cavs X TOR Raptors X PHX Suns

CLE take D.Derozan , E.Bledsoe & T.Chandler

TOR take T.Thompson , T.Warren , I.Shumpert , D.Bender & PHX (unprotected)

PHX take K.Irving , J.Valanciunas & 2nd from CLE

CLE acquire an all-star to replace Irving & a quality PG and C who plays defense very well

G Bledsoe-Rose-Calderon
G Derozan-Smith
F James-Korver-Jefferson
F Love-Green-Frye
C Chandler-Tavares

I think TOR will be on a decline, getting assets can help them build a young core

G Lowry-Wright-VanVleet
G Shumpert-Powell-Caboclo
F Warren-Miles-Anouby
F Thompson-D.Bender-Siakam
C Ibaka-Noguierra-Poeltl

PHX get a superstar

G Irving-Ulis
G Booker-Knight
F Jackson-Dudley
F Chriss-Williams
C Valanciunas-Len

17 Aug 2017 07:01:54
Why would toronto do this are you smoking.

17 Aug 2017 02:51:02
MIL Bucks X CHI Bulls X CLE Cavs

MIL take Irving , Smith & Lopez

G Irving-Payton
G Brogdon-Smith-Vaughn
F Giannis-Snell
F Teletovic-Wilson
C Lopez-Maker

CHI take Parker , Henson & Frye

G Dunn-Payne
G LaVine-Valentine-Holiday
F Parker-Zipser
F Portis-Frye
C Markannen-Henson-Felicio

CLE take Dellavedova , Wade , Middleton , Monroe & 1st from MIL

G Rose-Delly-Calderon
G Middleton-Wade
F James-Shumpert-Korver
F Love-Green
C Thompson-Monroe-Tavares

16 Aug 2017 23:45:49
NY: LBJ+ Bledsoe+ 1rnd pick Miami 2018

Phoe: K Love+Irving

Cleveland:Porzingis+ Ntilikina+ J Jackson+Bender+ t Chandler+ J Noah+ C Lee

17 Aug 2017 01:19:47
Hmm different.

17 Aug 2017 01:27:39
LeBron for 1 yr is better Porzingis for 10 more. CP3 Wade will find their way.

CP3/ Session/ Baker
Wade/ Dotson/ Randle
Melo/ Kuzminkas/ Beasley
LeBron/ Beasley/ Kornet
O'Quinn/ Bosh/ Plumlee

😀.

16 Aug 2017 18:58:57
CLE-NYK-BOS trade

Cleveland gets- Carmelo Anthony, Jae Crowder, Marcus Morris, Marcus Smart, Frank Ntilikina, 1st rd pick (NYK)

New York gets- Kyrie Irving, Iman Shumpert

Boston gets- Tristan Thompson, Willy Hernangomez


What do you think?

16 Aug 2017 19:41:59
I think it's not realistic, but hey I love it.

16 Aug 2017 21:21:52
Why would Boston do that? Seems terrible for them.

16 Aug 2017 23:19:43
Don't see Boston putting Crowder into this deal. You're basically asking them to help the Knicks pay to get Irving.

16 Aug 2017 18:42:05
Kyrie has not been traded yet because the Cavs and Clippers are waiting for Beverly's and Lou Williams trade exceptions to expire on 8/ 27. Irving preferred destination is LAC. Makes sense for CLE to trade him to the West and try to strengthen a team to take out GSW.

CLE - LAC

CLE get: Patrick Beverly, Lou Williams, Sam Dekker, and Deandre Jordan

pg. Beverly/ Rose
sg. Korver/ Williams
sf. James/ Smith/ Jefferson
pf. Love/ Frye
c. Jordan/ Tavares

LAC get: Kyrie Irving and Tristan Thompson

pg. Irving/ Teodisic
sg. Rivers/ Liggins
sf. Gallinari/ W. Johnson
pf. Griffin/ B. Johnson
c. Thompson/ Harrell

16 Aug 2017 19:16:01
Pretty awful return for the cavs.

16 Aug 2017 23:20:47
Add in a pick or two from the Clips and I could see this being more realistic.

15 Aug 2017 21:52:32
Cle: A Davis+ Jr Holiday

NO: K Love+ J Wall

Was: Irving+ 1rnd pick Cle 2021+ 1rnd pick NO 2018

16 Aug 2017 17:59:50
nice trade.

17 Aug 2017 14:39:51
Nice trade? Sure if your Cleveland or Washington. NOLA passes immediately.

16 Aug 2017 16:35:51
Cavs-Spurs-Suns


•Cavs get Eric Bledsoe, Danny Green, Jared Dudley, and Dragan Bender
Lineup:
PG: Bledsoe, Rose, Felder
SG: Green, Smith, Calderon
SF: James, Korver, Osman
PF: Love, Dudley, Green
C: Thompson, Bender, Tavares

•Spurs get Kyrie Irving, Iman Shumpert, and Richard Jefferson
-Sign Tony Parker back (after buyout with Suns)
-Sign Andrew Bogut
Lineup:
PG: Irving, Mills, Parker
SG: Shumpert, Ginobli, White
SF: Leonard, Gay, Paul
PF: Aldridge, Bertans, Jefferson
C: Gasol, Bogut, Lauvergne

•Suns get Tony Parker (buyout), Dejounte Murray, Kyle Anderson, Channing Frye, and Spurs 1st rd pick
-Sign Randy Foye
Lineup:
PG: Murray, Ulis, Knight
SG: Booker, Reed, Foye
SF: Jackson, Warren, Jones jr
PF: Chriss, Anderson, Peters
C: Chandler, Williams, Frye.

16 Aug 2017 17:16:37
The Suns turn that down. I feel like they could do better for Bledsoe without including Bender.

16 Aug 2017 10:35:09
Detroit-Cleveland-Houston-Ny Knicks

Detroit get Irving,Noah,Anderson

Irving-Galloway
Bradley-Kennard
Harris-Johnson-Bullock
Anderson-Leuer
Noah-Marjanovic

Cleveland get Drummond,Lee,Smith,1st Detroit

Rose-Smith-Calderon
Lee-Smith
James-Korver-Jefferson
Love-Green-Frye
Drummond-Tavares

Houston get Melo,Ellenson

Paul-Brown
Harden-Gordon
Melo-Tucker
Mbah-Ellenson
Capela-Nene-Black-Qi

Ny get Thompson,Jackson,1st Rockets

Jackson-Nkitilina-Baker
THJ-Thomas
Kuzminkas-Dotson
Zinger-Oquinn
Thompson-Willie

16 Aug 2017 13:30:49
Why wouldn't the Cavs and Detroit just cut Houston and the Knicks out. Detroit wouldn't have to take on bad contracts and the Cavs would get Ellenson.

16 Aug 2017 15:02:00
Noah is washed up with a bad contract he will be lucky to hold down the backup center role.

16 Aug 2017 05:08:47
Cavs-Suns


Cavs get Eric Bledsoe, Josh Jackson, Tyson Chandler, and Miami's 2018 1st

Suns get Kyrie Irving, Iman Shumpert, and Channing Frye.

16 Aug 2017 06:28:26
How many times does phoenix have to turn this down before people get the pic. Their not giving up Jackson. They turned it down on draft night, and over the summer.

16 Aug 2017 07:00:46
Shump and Frye are not selling the Suns on giving up Jackson, period.

15 Aug 2017 17:33:37
Cavs get Joakim Noah, Tobias Harris, Jon Leur, Kristaps Porzingis, and Stanley Johnson

Cavs give Kevin Love, Kyrie Irving, and Iman Shumpert

Knicks get Kyrie Irving

Knicks give Joakim Noah and Kristaps Porzingis

Pistons get Kevin Love and Iman Shumpert

Pistons give Tobias Harris, Jon Leur, and Stanley Johnson

The Cavs have made Kristaps Porzingis their primary target in a Kyrie Irving trade. This trade allows the Cavs to pickup the 7'3 Latvian wonder-kid while moving their current Power Forward Kevin Love. Moving Love gives the Cavs a versatile and athletic forward Tobias Harris, a stretch four to replace Love in Leur, and a young forward in Stanley Johnson who can become LeBron's pupil. Picking up Noah's ugly contract hurts but at least he'd be a good backup center. This trade improves the Cavs depth and brightens their future.

The Knicks get their new face of the franchise in Kyrie Irving, a local grown talent who wants nothing more than to win in New York. Losing Porzingis hurts but I'd say it's worth it for the Knicks to bring in a 25 year old star point guard who happens to be the most clutch player in the league while ridding their selves of one of the worst contracts in the NBA (Noah's). Irving and Melo would instantly become a scary scoring duo and the two New Yorkers can work to recruit other stars in their attempt to revive the Knicks.

The Pistons add an All-Star to what is shaping up to be a very nice starting five. Jackson/Bradley/Shumpert/Love/Drummond contains a nice mixture of shooting, defense, and rebounding. Love gives the Pistons a clear leading scorer, and the frontcourt of Drummond and Love should dominate the boards. Shumpert and Bradley would make for a tough defensive wing, but SVG could also go with Kennard at the three to add even more shooting. The Pistons could possibly make a run in this weak eastern conference.

15 Aug 2017 21:21:22
Can I change the proposal a little bit?
Knicks get Kyrie Irving and Tobias Harris
Pistons get Kevin Love and Joakim Noah
Cavaliers get Kristaps Porzingis, Stanley Johnson, Ish Smith, Lance Thomas and Jon Leuer

I feel Detroit should be the one that has to take on Noah's contract considering they are getting a top 30 player in Kevin Love for a subpar package of players. I also believe the Knicks would want something else for giving up Porzingis' future. Tobias Harris is a native New Yorker, grew up in Long Island, his family still resides in New York, and he is very close to Carmelo Anthony so I believe it would be ideal that he becomes a Knick. If the Knicks are willing to give up Porzingis for Irving, Melo and Kyrie are a great duo and there is enough role guys on the roster to where they could make the playoffs this season and recruit others in free agency next season. If the Cavs believe LeBron is going to leave, try and grab a future superstar in Porzingis now, Johnson is a young asset, Smith gives them another stopgap at PG along with Derrick Rose and Jose Calderon and they hopefully won't become the Brooklyn Nets after LeBron leaves.

15 Aug 2017 14:35:05
MIA-CLE-NYK-DET trade

Miami gets- Kyrie Irving

Cleveland gets- Carmelo Anthony, Goran Dragic, Justice Winslow, Luke Kennard, Bam Adebayo

New York gets- Tobias Harris

Detroit gets- Kevin Love

Whats your thoughts?

15 Aug 2017 15:35:33
Moving Love for Melo still doesn't make sense for the Cavs. It makes less sense now than before. The Cavs need some continuity and Love can't walk at the end of the year. So theoretically, if Lebron walks, the Cavs can still use Love to add to whatever young talent they get out of Irving.

I also don't think that deal for Irving is as good as the Phoenix deal.

15 Aug 2017 17:15:09
So now your hopes are to build around Kevin love? Worked well for the wolves.

15 Aug 2017 17:44:08
No, I don't think they should build around Love. I think they should keep him this year and if Lebron walks trade him for picks and/ or young players.

15 Aug 2017 08:38:22
If things don't work out in New Orleans this year could they blow it up with Cleveland

Say Irving + love + 1st rounder for Anthony Davis and rondo

Pelicans
Irving
Holiday
Hill
Love
Cousins

Cavs
Rondo
Smith
James
Thompson
Davis

15 Aug 2017 14:48:14
I don't see them moving Davis. If it plays out that long, Cousins for Irving makes more sense.

15 Aug 2017 15:04:20
What a ridiculous offer for a Superstar. Dream on Cavs fan.

15 Aug 2017 15:11:35
Anthony doesn't play for the pelicans. I highly doubt the Knicks are just going to hand him over to the cavs.

15 Aug 2017 17:23:06
Skills, really? The guys name is Anthony Davis, Not Melo and Davis.

15 Aug 2017 21:31:44
They are not getting Anthony Freakin Davis for Kyrie Irving and/ or Kevin Love. The only team with the assets to deal for Davis would be the Celtics.

16 Aug 2017 04:26:37
Uh, think there's more than the C's who have the assets to deal for Irving Class.

17 Aug 2017 14:36:59
You do not trade a Superstar for mid-level assets.

15 Aug 2017 07:14:18
CHI Bulls X CLE Cavaliers X PHX Suns

CHI : K.Irving & T.Chandler

CLE : E.Bledsoe , D.Wade , N.Mirotic & 1st from CHI

PHX : K.Dunn & R.Lopez

16 Aug 2017 06:32:26
If I'm phoenix I'm seriously considering this. Dunn struggled last season, but does ha e a lot of potential.

14 Aug 2017 16:41:49
Four team trade: Knicks/Cavaliers/76ers/Suns
New York Knicks trade: Kristaps Porzingis, Carmelo Anthony, Frank Ntilinkina, and Joakim Noah

New York Knicks receive: Kyrie Irving, Dario Saric, Robert Covington, Dragan Bender, and Channing Frye

The Knicks are giving up their present and their future all in one deal here. So why would they do this deal? Simple: they are gaining an even brighter future. Irving is a proven star and wants nothing more than to play in New York. The Knicks have been unwilling to include Porzingis in a deal for Irving this offseason, so I remedied that by essentially swapping Anthony out for Saric and Covington, more than fair considering both of their ages and potential, and, more importantly, ridding them of Noah's lengthy and pricey contract. Swapping out Ntilinkina for Bender would be more of a positional swap than anything, as acquiring Irving wouldn't leave much room for Ntilinkina, however, acquiring Bender would provide the Knicks with Porzingis' replacement, one of the most similar type of players as compared to Porzingis in the league. Moreover, this trade would open up over $20 million worth of cap space, and potentially enough for a max contract, for the next offseason. Free agents have never been shy in their desire to play in New York, which would be even more the case with Irving in town and youngsters such as Saric and Bender around.

Irving/Ramon Sessions
Tim Hardaway Jr./Courtney Lee
Covington/Lance Thomas
Saric/Bender
Kyle O'Quinn/Willy Hernangomez



Cleveland Cavaliers trade: Kyrie Irving, Iman Shumpert, Channing Frye, Richard Jefferson, and Kay Felder

Cleveland Cavaliers receive: Eric Bledsoe, Carmelo Anthony, and Richaun Holmes

In terms of talent, this deal would provide the Cavaliers with more than a fair return in exchange for Irving. While this may not be the same case in terms of value (although definitely debatable), the Cavaliers have been really struggling to find a team willing to give up fair value for Irving and most likely will not find fair value for a player of Irving's status. The Cavaliers will be in a very weird spot this upcoming season with the uncertainty of James' future as a Cavalier hanging over their heads. They desire to acquire a veteran player along with a young prospect with high upside for Irving in the event that LeBron James is to bolt again. With this trade, they would not only acquire one veteran, one who is still only 27-years-old and probably just played his best season of basketball as a professional, but two, the other whose contract expires after this season and they could decide to re-sign should James opt to stay in Cleveland. Although Holmes doesn't possess as high of upside as the Cavaliers would hope, he is signed for two more years on a very cheap contract and coming off a breakout season in which he was extremely effective in terms of per 36 minutes statistics while holding down a very efficient field goal percentage and even stretching the floor for his team by hitting some three pointers. Ridding themselves of Frye, Shumpert, Jefferson, and Felder would neutralize the blow the team would face for acquiring the pricey contracts of Bledsoe and Anthony.

Bledsoe/Derrick Rose
Anthony/Kyle Korver
James/J.R. Smith
Kevin Love/Jeff Green
Tristan Thompson/Holmes



Philadelphia 76ers trade: Dario Saric, Robert Covington, Richaun Holmes, Jahlil Okafor, 2018 76ers first-round pick, and 2018 Lakers first-round pick (top 1 protected)/2019 Kings first-round pick (pick that doesn't get traded to the Celtics)

Philadelphia 76ers receive: Kristaps Porzingis, Joakim Noah, and Richard Jefferson

Giving up four young players with solid upside, two potentially high draft picks, and taking on an absolutely terrible contract (along with a much smaller one) would be a hard pill for the 76ers to swallow. There are only a few players in the league worth this type of package and Porzingis is certainly one of them. Can you seriously imagine the 76ers acquiring Porzingis without giving up Joel Embiid, Ben Simmons, and Markelle Fultz? Wow! The potential for the team to succeed in the future would probably be something that has never been heard of in the past. If all these players are to live up to their highest potential, just imagine a team of James Harden, LeBron James, Dirk Nowitzki, and Hakeem Olajuwon all playing together. That would be absolutely absurd! The best part would be that the team, even with Noah's contract on the books, would have just under $30 million to spend on free agents next season, with the chance to finesse enough cap space for a maximum contract if need be. Shooting and defense would probably be the two biggest needs for a team of this caliber, and with players such as Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Avery Bradley available, the team would have a variety of opportunities to complete their starting line-up for the next 10 years.

Fultz/Jerryd Bayless
J.J. Redick/Nik Stauskas
Simmons/Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot
Porzingis/Amir Johnson
Embiid/Noah



Phoenix Suns trade: Eric Bledsoe and Dragan Bender

Phoenix Suns receive: Jahlil Okafor, Frank Ntilinkina, Iman Shumpert, 2018 76ers first-round pick, and 2018 Lakers first-round pick (top 1 protected)/2019 Kings first-round pick (pick that doesn't get traded to the Celtics)

The Phoenix Suns are one of the youngest teams in the league, and they are only hoping to get younger as they look to sell off veterans such as Bledsoe, Tyson Chandler, and a few others. They have the minutes and room for risk available to take a chance on a player like Okafor, who still has enough offensive potential in him to be a possible surprise for a team willing to take the risk in acquiring him. More important in this deal, however, would be the two picks the team would be acquiring. Even with the magical upside the 76ers would have on their roster following this trade, they would almost undoubtedly need another year to develop into a true contender, and that's not taking injuries into consideration. Granted, the Eastern Conference is probably as weak as it has ever been and the 76ers can just as easily sneak into the playoffs as a seventh or eighth seed as they can finish as an 11th or 12th seed, but even if this pick were to fall as far back as 15th, it would provide the Suns with an opportunity to draft a player with, at minimum, medial upside. The second pick the Suns would receive in this deal would either be the Lakers' draft pick next year or the Kings' draft pick in two years. They would receive the Lakers pick next year if it fell beyond the fifth slot. Considering the likeliness of their pick falling somewhere between the sixth and 10th slot in next year's draft, or the likeliness of the Kings' draft pick landing somewhere in the top five slot the following year, the return the Suns would be receiving in this trade for Bledsoe would be very worthwhile. As mentioned before, swapping Bender for Ntilinkina would be positional more than anything, as Marquese Chriss plays the same position that Bender plays and outperformed him this previous season. The Suns need themselves a young point guard of the future and the hope would be that Ntilinkina would be that guy for them.

Ntilinkina/Tyler Ulis
Devin Booker/Elijah Millsap
Josh Jackson/T.J. Warren
Chriss/Jared Dudley
Okafor/Tyson Chandler

14 Aug 2017 17:36:51
Philly says no, way too much to give up just for Zinger.

14 Aug 2017 17:37:20
Not bad. I think the biggest hang ups would be the amount the 76ers are giving up here and I'm not sure if the Cavs would be willing to go all in this year rather than getting a mix of young talent and established players. Holmes is young, but he is probably a career role player.

14 Aug 2017 19:16:47
Philly says no. Could go either way if that is too much for Porzingis but I could see it happen, but with adding Noah that is way too much imo. They should be keeping one of Covington or Saric and one of those first should become 2 seconds

14 Aug 2017 22:44:30
I agree that the 76ers may be giving up too much but what you guys have to understand is that the Knicks aren't at all desperate to trade Porzingis, and even Anthony for that matter taking into account the offers they've received for him, therefore, it would take a king's ransom deal to grab him. 76ers have a lot of assets that they will have to consolidate at some point, and they should that sooner rather than waiting till later and receiving pennies on the dollar.

Porzingis has a truly unique skill set, is a superstar in the making playing in a superstar's league, and is extremely young, making him worth the king's ransom. The fact that they would still have enough money to spend on a top free agent next season in an effort to fill out their line-up would be icing on the cake.

15 Aug 2017 00:41:57
Danny, I just think you're underestimating how much of a negative asset Noah is.

15 Aug 2017 03:43:41
No ones arguing that it would take a ransom to get him but Philly is giving up a ransom and then your acting like the Knicks can throw in one of the worst contracts in the NBA on top of it. Like I said I can see the Sixers doing that without Noah included

15 Aug 2017 15:24:17
I don't see phoenix doing this. Yes they're getting a lot, but it's mainly a lot of nothing. No one wants play of, and the Lakers pick I believe is already owed to Boston for moving up this year to #1. So it would be 2 years before they get the first rounder. And I don't believe they can trade they're own pick since they're already trading one. so basically phoenix trades Bledsoe, and bender for okafor schumperts contract, and the pg from new York.

14 Aug 2017 10:30:06
cle:
bledsoe, randle, warren, 2nd lakers (denver) 2018

pho:
irving

l.a.:
frye, 1st phoenix 2018

14 Aug 2017 14:31:38
The Cavs would much rather have that Suns first than Randle.

14 Aug 2017 23:47:08
You really think the Lakers are getting a 1st rounder for handle who's a free agent this summer? It scares me to know that there's people running around out there this stupid.

14 Aug 2017 01:04:25
MIL Bucks X CLE Cavs X LA Clippers

MIL take - K.Irving , C.Frye & D.Jordan

G - K.Irving-G.Payton
G - M.Brogdon-R.Vaughn
F - G.Antetokounmpo-T.Snell
F - M.Teletovic-C.Frye-D.Wilson
C - D.Jordan-T.Maker

CLE take - K.Middleton , P.Beverley , G.Monroe & 2nd from LA Clippers

G - P.Beverley-D.Rose-J.Calderon
G - K.Middleton-J.Smith
F - L.James-I.Shumpert-K.Korver
F - K.Love-J.Green-R.Jefferson
C - T.Thompson-G.Monroe

LAC take - M.Dellavedova , W.Tavares , J.Henson , J.Parker & 1st from MIL Bucks

G - M.Teodosic-M.Dellavedova
G - A.Rivers-L.Williams-S.Dekker
F - D.Gallinari-J.Parker
F - B.Griffin-W.Johnson
C - J.Henson-M.Harrell-W.Tavares

14 Aug 2017 04:33:59
I don't think Irving in mil is a good move he's nor going to be the man.

14 Aug 2017 05:41:09
Thrill, i have a suggestion, MIL should stay with their "core" and stay mediocre for a long time. I mean, this is a steal for them if they get it done.

14 Aug 2017 12:55:28
In all seriousness, if you are a bucks fan and not a fan of this trade. quit.

Back up big man. Broken prospect. And a good not great player in Middleton. For two players around the top 5 in their position.

What a joke thrill.

13 Aug 2017 23:15:48
Huge Blockbuster
Knicks receive: G Kyrie Irving, F Tobias Harris, G Brandon Knight, G Iman Shumpert, F Stanley Johnson
Cavaliers receive: F Carmelo Anthony, G Eric Bledsoe, G Courtney Lee, C Kyle O'Quinn, future second rounder (Pistons)
Pistons receive: F Kevin Love, F Lance Thomas
Suns receive: F Channing Frye, G Ish Smith, F Mindaugas Kuzminskas, 2018 Pistons 1st Round Pick (lottery-protected), 2019 Knicks 1st Round Pick (lottery-protected)

Post Trade
Knicks
PG Kyrie Irving / Frank Ntilinka
SG Tim Hardaway / Iman Shumpert
SF Tobias Harris / Stanley Johnson
PF Kristaps Porzingis/Mike Beasley
C Willy Hernangomez/Joakim Noah

Cavaliers
PG Eric Bledsoe / Derrick Rose
SG Courtney Lee / J.R. Smith
SF LeBron James / Kyle Korver
PFCarmelo Anthony/Rich Jefferson
C Tristan Thompson / Kyle O'Quinn

Pistons
PGReggie Jackson/Lang. Galloway
SG Avery Bradley / Luke Kennard
SF Lance Thomas / Reggie Bullock
PF Kevin Love / Jon Leuer
CAndre Drummond/Henry Ellenson

Suns
PG Tyler Ulis / Ish Smith
SG Devin Booker / T.J. Warren
SF Josh Jackson / Jared Dudley
PF Marquese Chriss / Alan Williams
C Tyson Chandler / Dragan Bender

Cavs perspective:
Think of it as two trades.
Bledsoe and Lee for Irving.
Carmelo and O'Quinn for Love.
Pretty fair deals and LeBron gets two guys who he would love to play with. Is Andrew Wiggins going to keep LeBron in Cleveland? Is LaMarcus Aldridge going to keep LeBron in Cleveland? The Cavs have to act accordingly and bring in guys to please LeBron. In the process, they cut more than $20M off their luxury tax payment.
Pistons perspective:
They need a star to pair up with Drummond. Giving up a decent role guy in Harris, a disappointing lottery pick in Johnson, a backup point in Smith, and a future 1st & 2nd Round Pick for a top 40 player in Kevin Love is a great deal.
Suns perspective:
Bledsoe has been injured year after year for them and he doesn't fit the timeline of the young players on the roster, so it's ideal to move him.
Netting two first round picks, getting rid of Brandon Knight's albatross of a contract, and getting a cheap veteran guard in return with Ish Smith makes for a solid return.
Knicks perspective:
How crazy would it be for the Knicks to turn disgruntled Carmelo Anthony into one of the five best PGs in basketball today? It would cost them. Taking on two bad contracts in Brandon Knight and Iman Shumpert. Trading away a future 1st Round Pick. But it's most definitely worth it. Plus moving aging role players like Lee, O'Quinn, and Thomas for younger, more effective players like Shumpert, Harris, and Johnson makes for a nice haul.

14 Aug 2017 11:30:35
If the Knicks want Irving it's going to cost them a lot more than Anthony -- and Anthony is on record as saying he would turn down any deal that doesn't end up with him in Houston.

14 Aug 2017 12:58:22
He is? On the record means he made a public official statement. So Anthony made a public statement saying he won't accept a trade anywhere but Houston? So weird that no one else saw this statement on the record by Carmelo Anthony.

Odd.

13 Aug 2017 13:17:20
Who wins/ loses in trade? Who accepts/ doesn't?

Cavs Phx LAC Det

Phx receives
Irving
Rivers

Phoenix obviously does this to get what they want in Kyrie with the package of Bledsoe Chandler and Bender plus the picks. Knight value dropped big time since the injury and is a chance to get rid of his contract. Plus Rivers comes in as a similar style back up and can play now.

Det receives
Love
T. Chandler

Detroit gives up Drummond and Smith but gets Love who offensively we know helps the Pistons big time along with Harris and Chandler replaces Drummonds big body and rebounding and defensive role.

LAC receives
Thompson
Shumpert
Bender
Ish Smith
2018 first round from Phoenix
2021 first round from Phoenix(Miami pick)

^^^ Clippers lose Jordan and Rivers and gain Thompson who does a lot of what Jordan did at a reduced price. Shumpert and Smith are both solid rotational players. Bender still has potential and the two first round picks addition sets the course for the future while the whole package adds depth.

Cavs receive
Jordan
Drummond
Bledsoe
Knight

^^^ Yes I believe the Cavs would want to do this because of the value they receive. Plus a starting line up of Bledsoe, Rose, James, Drummond, Jordan would defensively help stop GS. I understand the 4th quarter problem though. Still believe with the lack of value they seem to be receiving for Irving, this maximizes the most of what the Cavs can get talent wise.

13 Aug 2017 17:42:07
No sense for the Cavs. Jordan and Drummond can't play on the court at the same time. Neither can shoot, or defend the pick and roll. Both would just clog up the offensive lane, limiting what slashers like Bron, Rose and Bledsoe do well. And then there's the whole foul shot thing. Two starters who shoot around 40% from the line is a disaster.

14 Aug 2017 23:33:48
Terrible trade for cavs to get jordan and drummond. that's the opposite of what you want vs golden state. Bledsoe rose and lebron all like to drive and the lane would be way to clogged thus limiting all their game. You also need shooters in todays nba to win. And defensive rose isn't good and neither of drummond and deandre would be able to guard small ball 4's.

 
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