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10 Feb 2016 20:25:06
Highly doubtful the Hawks blow it up but if they do these are some interesting trade ideas they could do all at once

1)) ) Celtics trade Bradley James young and Brookyln pick this year to Hawks

Hawks trade al Horford

2)) ) ) Sixers trade nerlen Noel and staukis plus either Miami or okc pick to Hawks

Hawks trade: Jeff teages.

3)) ) ) Cavs trade shumpert

Hawks trade Kyle Krover and Justin holiday

This last trade seems like the Hawks lose but korver is 34 and shumpert is 25. So they go for the future.

Starting five after trades for Hawks

Schroeder/ Mack
Bradley/ hardaway
Bazmore/ sefolosha
Millsap/ Scott
Noel/ Tavares

But also will have a top five pick coming from Brookyln and another close to middle pick coming form Miami or okc.

Not a bad rebuild/ retooling measure. With Brookyln pick I'd choose best player available.

10 Feb 2016 20:34:04
That's a bad trade for Boston.

10 Feb 2016 20:39:52
Don't see the C's trading a likely top 5 pick and Avery Bradley for a possible rental in horford. And no way would the Hawks get Noel and a first round pick for only teague.

10 Feb 2016 20:50:34
No way from the sixers. Noel by himself is more valuable than a middle of the pack PG.

10 Feb 2016 20:51:50
Not enough offense

10 Feb 2016 21:03:54
I don't really see any team taking these deals. they are all in Atlanta s favor.

10 Feb 2016 21:13:07
How is it bad for Boston. They get al hortford! They need a win now guy to go with Thomas. The team would be defensive and have outside and inside threats. I'd like it. Yes you lose the Brookyln pick but who are you going to get at five that's better then hortford will be over the next five years? He's exactly what Boston needs.

10 Feb 2016 21:24:46
Boston does it to do all take the jump to really contender. Good defense with interior and outside scoring threats.
They don't need a fifth overall pick to make the jump. They need a star.

Sixers do it to establish themselves with a veteran pg. probably sign beal or derozen or one of the many other sg next year to go along with Simmons okafor and Embiid and saric as sixth man.

Cavs do it to get a three point scoring threat that can actually make a wide open shot when lebron passes it to them.

10 Feb 2016 21:44:52
True, he is what Boston needs, but is it worth giving up a top 5 pick and then have him walk away at the end of the season? The fact is Boston is not winning a 'Chip this year with or without him, so unless you're sure you can re-sign him, it's not worth giving up the pick and Bradley.

10 Feb 2016 21:45:48
Are you kidding tregib? The celtics get RIPPED. a coupel month rental isn't worth their starting 2 and a likely top 5 pick.

The sixers (which i thought you were a fan of) get fleeced in that trade.

And the cavs are stuck with shumpert and his bloated contract. this was absolutely an awful post.

10 Feb 2016 21:52:48
well first Al is a free agent at the end of the season and going to be 30. we aren't in a win now circumstance we are still building. and I wouldn't say its bad for Boston its just not what they are looking for. Ainge said he wasn't trading that pick for someone 30 or over. he wants stability, he doesn't want what happened last time, he doesn't want to win now and then go right back into rebuild.

10 Feb 2016 22:19:20
Would prefer Celts get a younger player for that Nets' pick.

11 Feb 2016 00:54:07
The whole point is to get hortford to actually stay with the Celtics of course. Like actually try getting out of NBA hell. The eight seed.

10 Feb 2016 17:32:29
Who wins this trade?

Clippers: K Love+ K Irving
Cle: CP3+ D Jordan

Clippers:
PG: Irving/ Rivers
SG: Reddick/ Crawford
SF:P Pierce/ L Stephenson
PF: K Love/ Mbah La Moute
C: Griffin/ Aldrich

Cleveland:
PG: CP3/ Dellavedova
SG: JR Smith/ Shumpert
SF: L James
PF: T Thompson/ Varejao
C: D Jordan/ Mozgov.

10 Feb 2016 18:17:15
Short term cavs long term Clippers. but i don't see griffin play at center.

10 Feb 2016 18:22:58
Neither team really

Cavs get defense but loses 60-70% of their scoring

Clips add ton of offense but has no center at all or defense.

10 Feb 2016 18:34:01
Cleveland no doubt. They get a much better upgrade at center who the best rim protector in the game and then one of if not the best floor general in the game for two players who don't play defense one bit. I mean if the Clippers are getting the numbers Love put up in Minnesota then maybe its not too bad but then you have to think about how bad a fit he is next to Griffin when he returns.

10 Feb 2016 18:52:24
add Mozgov and Crawford.

10 Feb 2016 14:37:24
Cleveland - Howard

Hornets - Lopez, Motiejunas

Nets - Love, Jones

Houston - Batum, Young

Houston will have a more efficient small line up with great wing span, defense, and speed with Batum and Young.

10 Feb 2016 06:58:29
Bos -Mil

Boston: G. Monroe and R. Vaughn
Bucks: J. Sulinger (RFA), T. Zeller (RFA), D. Lee (EXP) and Brk 1st 2016

Is this fair bucks fans? I saw the game yesterday and I never wanted Monroe, I thought he was somewhat of a dinosaur in today's game, but I could see him fit really well in Boston, can play solid D one on one (could use some help on team D) and a fantastic low post passer and scorer, what Boston desperately needs to take another step forwald

Why for bucks, get two picks in top 10 and one that probs ends up in top 5, while getting to players who can be resigned fairly cheaply.

Why for Boston, can make a real hard push for ECF against cavs and frees playing time for promising young big Jordan Mickey and can stop worringing about where that pick will end up haha.

10 Feb 2016 09:39:39
Boston not giving up that top 3,5 pick they will have. Maybe they give up a later first rd pick.

10 Feb 2016 12:13:12
But I just assumed if I said like the Dallas pick instead some on this site would be all like "another C's fan overvaluing thier assets, no trade is done without Brooklyn pick. " It's just I'd be happy to give it up (or another Brooklyn pick) for moose, so long as we keep IT, AB, crowder, smart and Mickey (arguably the best defensive players on the team minus Thomas, sorry Amir, he just isn't apart of the future Mickey is) . I can see almost every other player available at the right price if Milwaukee wants, they can have IMO as a C's fan. Wait 2 years = unstoppable starting lineup. (wishful thinking guys, ik a LOT of work to be done first but)

10 Feb 2016 14:31:15
Don't chase after one game. he would help us yes but not worth the Brooklyn pick.

10 Feb 2016 16:26:08
Celts are not going to get their big man with a pick in the 3-5 range. They have plenty of picks built up. This would be a good use of one of them.

10 Feb 2016 16:41:42
why won't they get their big man in the 3-5 range? you never know how picks are going to turn out. I mean look at Jimmy Butler, 30th pick in the draft and we consider him a top player. players develop differently and every year we do redrafts and players aren't projected or drafted where they end up years later. I think the Celtics shouldn't trade the Brooklyn pick for an extinct non-shot blocking big man whos defense isn't all there.

10 Feb 2016 05:36:43
Hawks-Magic Deals

First
Horford, Teague, Hardaway
For
Vucevic, Oladipo, Napier

Second
Add Cavs
Hawks get Vucevic, Oladipo
Magic get Horford, Teague, Mozgov
Cavs get Korver, Jason Smith

Third
Add Rockets
Hawks Get Vucevic, Beverly
Magic get Horford, Motiejunas
Rockets get Teague.

10 Feb 2016 06:52:07
Magic say no to all 3.

10 Feb 2016 11:53:54
The Magic are targeting Al horford to come and play PF with Vucevic and will create a great combo. that's why Orlando says no. And by the way Oladipo won't get traded so don't get your hopes up.

10 Feb 2016 17:05:43
They could jus wait to get Horford in free agency instead of giving assets for a rental instead maybe get someone who they could partner with Horford and draw him to sign in Orlando.

10 Feb 2016 02:07:44
Hawks trade Millsap, Hardaway Jr

Bulls trade Noah, McDermott, Portis, Kings 2016 first round pick, own 2016 first round pick, two future second round picks

Hawks according to reports are considering blowing the team up. So getting two former first round picks on rookie contracts plus four future draft picks a good way to jump start the rebuilding process.

The east is a two team race between the Cavs and Raptors right now. The Bulls need to make a move to get back into the top of the eastern conference. Playing Millsap next to Gasol would allow more driving lanes for Butler and Rose plus Millsap is the ideal new stretch four in today's NBA game.

10 Feb 2016 01:08:20
OK let's try this for size

ClE: Melo

NYK: Gallinari and Barton (could be mudiay instead.

DEN: Love.

10 Feb 2016 00:45:56
Hawks trade Millsap, Muscala, Holiday

Raptors trade Patterson, Scola, Johnson, Nogueria, Caboclo, Wright, Knicks 2016 first round pick, own 2016 first round pick, Clippers 2017 first round pick

Hawks reportedly are debating about blowing the team up so Millsap could be on the move. A return of three former first round picks all on their rookie contracts still plus three future first round picks is a great return for a player in Millsap who could leave as a FA next summer anyways.

Raptors are just two games behind the Cavs in the eastern conference and are looking more and more like a legit title contender. Adding Millsap without giving up any of their top six players would solve their issue at PF and give the Raptors three legit All Stars. A move they might need to make to make a push to the NBA finals.

09 Feb 2016 06:39:43
Suns deadline roster blow up:

PHX: lawson (exp), dekker, harrell, mcdaniels
HOU: chandler, morris, goodwin, '18 2nd round pick

PHX: gordon (exp), '16 1st round pick
NOL: knight

PHX: patterson, johnson (exp), NY 1st '16
TOR: tucker, warren, leuer

Draft:

#4 PHX pick: Jaylen Brown
#6 NOL pick: Buddy Hield
#12 NY pick: Diamond Stone
#27 CLE pick: Timothe Luwawu.

09 Feb 2016 10:17:26
Don't think NOLA would give pick for kind of player they have in holiday.

09 Feb 2016 20:03:28
First trade will never happen.

09 Feb 2016 04:55:23
To beat golden state

Okc doing good but you can't risk to lose Durant for nothing. Plus this trade will also help thunder to hang on to Westbrook long term with super max money.
So thunder get Kevin love, Jeff green, and Lee
Green can play 3 and just need him for mostly defense. Lee can start over waiters.
Memphis get shumpert and really upgrade at the two position and get rid Jeff green who don't fit. Plus they get Larry Nance Jr.
Lakers get Serge ibaka, wild thing, and deladova. Lakers get rid of a great player but get assets to trade for the following season. Plus cavs give Lakers some first round picks,

Cavs get Durant, Kobe, and fillers.
Irving, kobe, Durant, LBJ, and TT. Max staying line up.
Cavs we will also use trade exception for nick young. Part of trade so Lakers can get a Lil cap space. Cavs would also save money to but will have the best big three. Look at it this way thunder fans if Durant leave next season cause they can't beat warriors and owner not going to spend why you think they didn't keep harden. Westbrook will leave next both to the Lakers. So with love locked in for four years Westbrook would have better chance staying. Kobe will agree to this to finish out to tie Jordan and help his lakers get assets for his future return for one session after taking 2016 and 2017 off.

09 Feb 2016 05:02:48
Dude Kobe, is not going to get traded, and he has a no trade clause.

09 Feb 2016 05:11:09
Dude that's just stupid. 1) Kobe won't leave the Lakers 2) Thunder aren't going to trad KD so they can offer Westbrook more money, they can offer the same contract whether KD is in OKC or not.

09 Feb 2016 05:11:13
Wow, this one is out there.

08 Feb 2016 22:57:48
Denver/ houston/ Cleveland

Denver-love

Houston-gallinari, barton, mozgov, houston draft pick back

Cleveland -Howard.

08 Feb 2016 12:59:57
Atlanta rebuilding

Atlanta: K Love+ G Henderson+ McCollum+ J Embiid

Cleveland: Horford
Portland: P Millsap+ 1rnd pic
Atlanta: Schroder+ 2nd rnd pic.

09 Feb 2016 03:37:19
Bad trade for Portland.

07 Feb 2016 03:40:41
Clippers get Kevin Love

Cavs get Blake Griffin

The Clippers have been better this year with Blake out of the lineup because his absence allows them to spread the floor more effectively, which gives CP3 more room to operate and DeAndre Jordan room to rim-run. Love, unlike Griffin, is a very good shooter so his presence would help to spread the floor. Love and DJ would be the best rebounding duo in the NBA and the Clips would have their go to low post scorer.

The Cavs are trying to run a downhill, up-tempo offense under coach Tyronn Lue. Griffin is faster, more athletic, and a better ball-handler than Love. LeBron, Kyrie, and Blake are all capable of starting/ finishing breaks and are all unselfish basketball players who will allow whoever has the hot hand to take over the scoring. The fact that all three players are good enough ball handlers to run an offense makes this trio even more dangerous.

07 Feb 2016 00:37:14
Cavs pelicans trailblazers

Cavs send k. love jr smith, mozzy

Cavs get from pelicans Roberts,

07 Feb 2016 00:30:10
Cavs Utah

Cavs send k. love, mozzy 10.5 million trade exception mo willams
Cavs get g. hayward Rodney hood Utah #1 in 2016.

07 Feb 2016 04:48:52
Jazz have favors and Hayward is thier star no way this happens.

07 Feb 2016 05:24:53
Trade exception doesn't work that way.

08 Feb 2016 14:11:33
jazz need a guard.

05 Feb 2016 18:31:14
LA Clippers- Cleveland

Love for Griffin

This would improve both teams.

05 Feb 2016 14:41:18
Cavs get MCW Henson
Bucks get delly kaun Cunningham 2nd cash.

05 Feb 2016 14:54:04
Bucks hang up real quick.

04 Feb 2016 23:41:18
I know there are bigger, better and more interesting trade ideas with all of the trade rumors swirling around today. But as a Timberwolves fan, I've got to try to make some deal happen.
Here are a variety of Kevin Martin trade ideas. All of the trades are with teams that have either been mentioned in rumors as having interest in Kevin Martin or that could use extra scoring punch of the bench. All of the trades work as far as the salary cap is concerned (confirmed with ESPN NBA Trade Machine) . Tell me which one you think is most likely and most realistic.

Minnesota and Cleveland:
- Kevin Martin to Cleveland using their 10 million dollar trade exception (Acquired in Brendan Haywood trade) and Minnesota's 2019 second round pick (Traded to Cleveland in Tyus Jones deal) .

Minnesota and Memphis:
- Kevin Martin to Memphis for Courtney Lee and Bostons 2016 2nd round pick.

Minnesota and Dallas:
- Kevin Martin and Tayshaun Prince to Dallas for Raymond Felton, Dwight Powell and Dallas' 2017 2nd round pick.

Minnesota and Oklahoma City
- Send Kevin Martin and Tayshaun Prince to the Thunder for Steve Novak, Josh Huestis, either the Ish Smith or the Perry Jones trade exceptions and 1 or more of the Thunders 3 2016 2nd round picks: (Their own, The Hornets' and The Kings') . Also, the rights to recently drafted Kentuvky big man Dakari Johnson could be sent instead of a second round pick.

Minnesota and Los Angeles Clippers:
- Kevin Martin and Tayshuan Prince to the Clippers for Jamal Crawford, CJ Wilcox and the Brooklyn Net's 2016 second round pick.

Minnesota and Miami:
- Kevin Martin and Tayshaun Prince to Miami for Chris Andersen, Jarnell Stokes and Miami's 2018 second round pick.

Finally, if none of the above trades, or any other trade is possible, the Wolves could trade Martin to Philidelphia in a pure salary dump.
- Kevin Martin and the Houston Rockets 2016 2nd round pick (top-45 protected) to Philly for a player.

Other teams that have been rumored to have been interested, or could use Martin: Sacramento, Milwaukee, Toronto, Detroit, New York Knicks, Washington, Houston, Portland and Utah.

Obviously as you can see, I think that Kevin Martin can be a valuable piece for a team competing for a playoff spot and that needs three point shooting and scoring off the bench. I put Martins trade value as an expiring contract (simply to make the numbers work) and another young prospect and/ or second round pick. I also think that Tayshaun Prince could be a valuable piece for a playoff team as a wing defender. He has playoff experience and is still a viable defensive small forward two couples together makes sense. What Martin lacks in defense, Prince provides.

I put a lot of time into making this. So please take the time to read it and give me feedback as to which trade you think is most realistic, most likely and most logical. If you have another possible trade or a counteroffer, please comment that as well. If you think Martins value is less or more than I stated, let me know.

Finally, here's another possible trade just for fun:

Kevin Martin, Adreian Payne, the Houston Rockets 2016 second round pick (top-45 protected) and the Minnesota Timberwolves 2018 second round pick
FOR
Markieff Morris.

This might be a stretch, as the Suns seem to think Morris has more trade value than he really does. However, I think Morris would fit nicely into the 'Wolves' core. Also, if the Suns are ready to blow up their roster, why would t they trade that headache for a power forward with potential: Adreian Payne and 2 second round picks.

04 Feb 2016 08:42:25
Cavs 2016/ 17

Trade:
NOLA receives: Kevin Love + JR Smith
Cavs receive: R. Anderson + D. Cunningham

Free Agency:
Sign:
Dwyane Wade
Nico Batum
Hassan Whiteside
Garret Temple

PG Kyrie
SG Shumpert
SF Batum
PF Lebron
C Whiteside

Bench: Dellevadova, Wade, Temple, Cunningham, Anderson, Thompson.

04 Feb 2016 12:42:04
Ever hear of a salary cap? because you got them signing a max. Prob 20 mill for batum. And at worst, 12 mil for wade. Good luck there.

04 Feb 2016 13:13:52
Even with moving Love and JR's contracts, the Cavs would still have $80M in guaranteed contracts next year, leaving them about $10M to sign new players. Other than Garret Temple, which one of those other players are you expecting to get for $10M a year or less?

If the Cavs are making this trade, they're resigning Ryan Anderson and then filling out the roster with exception players, not adding a Wade, Batum, or Whiteside.

04 Feb 2016 16:28:00
Their starting 5 would likely be:

Kyrie: 20 mill
Shumpert:10 mill
Batum: 18 mill
James:24 mill
Whiteside: 20 mill

That alone is 92 million.

Then 15 mill for thompson, figure 10 mill for wade, and another 10-20 mill for the rest.

You think the cavaliers are going to have a payroll approaching 130million? The taxes would be INSANE.

04 Feb 2016 18:08:31
Yes, but they might just win then.

04 Feb 2016 06:55:21
Phoenix-Cleveland-Toronto-Milwaukee

Phoenix Sends: PJ Tucker, Markief Morris, Brandon Knight
Phoenix Gets:Greivis Vasquez, Delon Wright, Timofy Mozgov, Johnny O'Bryant III, Lakers 1st Rd pick back from Milwaukee, 2nd round picks from Cleveland and Toronto

Cleveland Sends: Timofy Mozgof, 2nd round pick
Cleveland Gets: Markeif Morris, Bismack Biyombo, Miles Plumlee

Toronto Sends: Bismack Biyambo, Delon Wright, 2nd Round Pick
Toronto Gets: PJ Tucker

Milwaukee Sends: Greivis Vasquz, Miles Plumlee, Johnny O'Bryant III, Lakers 1st rd back to Phoenix
Milwaukee Gets: Brandon Knight

Phoenix enters rebuild mode gets draft picks and young talent. Trade away Brandon Knight cause doesn't fit next to Bledsoe and clears way for Devin Booker at SG. Need PG's cause all are injured, Archie Goodwin moves back to more natural SG position. Timofy Mozgov to make salaries match can be flipped in a separate deal.

Cleveland gets great backup PF on great deal. Two backup centers to make salaries work. Timofy Mozgov been dangled in trade rumors.

Toronto gives up backup center with poor PER and PG who doesn't play. Get defensive minded wing that can guard 2-4 and make threes until Demarre Carrol returns from injury.

Milwaukee gets PG back because MCW experiment was a fail. Sends out PG allows MCW to move to the bench and center who doesn't play because of front court logjam.

In ESPN trade machine salaries work
Phoenix -2 wins
Cleveland Even
Toronto -1 win
Milwaukee +2 wins.

04 Feb 2016 22:15:40
1) Why is Mozgov worth even close to that?
2) Raptors aren't trading Biyombo, guaranteed
3) It doesn't even close to work in the trade machine, Cleveland would have to cut over 6 mil
4) 10 Agree it is plausible. not even mad, just disappointed.

05 Feb 2016 22:25:13
Why are the cavs getting 3 big guys in this deal and the raptors trade there back up center for nothing really bad trade Raptors hang up and cavs laugh.

 
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