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26 Feb 2017 01:56:30
With Williams signing with cavs soon. Cavs should waive McRae and sign bogut once waived if not sign sanders

Irving Williams felder
Smith shumpert liggins
James korver Jefferson
Love frye jones
Thompson bogut Williams

26 Feb 2017 20:16:56
With everyone thinking Bogut is going to sign with LBJ Inc. I'm thinking he's not. I see him going back to Golden State or to Boston.

27 Feb 2017 02:28:55
Bogut is not allowed to sign with Golden State.

23 Feb 2017 23:22:21
Cavs sign Williams and sanders

Cavs sign bogut if waived

Cavs waive McRae and liggins

Irving Williams felder
Smith shumpert jones
James korver Jefferson
Love frye Williams
Thompson (bogut) sanders

24 Feb 2017 05:01:40
Don't waive Liggins.

24 Feb 2017 10:08:30
Don't waive Liggins. He's a good rollplayer.

23 Feb 2017 17:14:37
Done Deal

Sixers trade Noel to Dallas for Bogut, Anderson, Top 18 protected first.

Good deal for Dallas I think.

Bogut is likely to be bought out and then could sign with a contender like Cleveland or Boston

23 Feb 2017 17:39:57
I was thinking the same about Bogut being bought out. Would be a great pick up for Boston for the remainder of the season.

23 Feb 2017 18:18:00
If it falls in the top 18 then it turns into a 2017 2nd and 2018 2nd.

23 Feb 2017 18:44:17
I don't trust colangelo to make another trade for this team. Horrible.

23 Feb 2017 20:32:59
Sixers got killed here.

23 Feb 2017 13:21:12
Cavs go small ball.

Cavaliers get- Carmelo Anthony, Kyle O'Quinn.

Knicks get- Tristan Thompson, Jordan McRae, Iman Shumpert, 2021 1st, 2019 1st, trade exceptions. Also draft rights of Cedi Osman, Dom Pointer, Vladimeer Veremeenko, Edin Bavcic, Chu Maduabum, Illkan Karaman.

Irving/Liggins/Felder
Korver/Smith/Jones
Anthony/Jefferson/Williams
James/Frye
Love/O'Quinn

Rose/Jennings/Baker
Lee/Shumpert/McRae/Vujacic
Thomas/Kuzminskas/Holiday
Porzingis/Hernangomez/N'dour
Thompson/Noah/Plumlee

23 Feb 2017 13:50:22
I don't know about acquiring the draft rights to like62 players, especially as after a trade like this, the Cavs will have one first round pick between now and the time Kyrie retires, but the framework of the deal makes sense. None of the Cavs biggest competition runs out a dominant Center, so going small is fine.

23 Feb 2017 20:59:32
It's was bad enough last yr to dump Shumpert Smith for nothing. Now u want ny to do it again. Melo Noah for Shumpert Thompson fillers. Cavs can keep there 2031 picks you are prposing.

23 Feb 2017 04:34:11
Wolves get Rose
Knicks get Wade Korver
Bulls get Rubio Lee
Cavs get Rondo

Draft day trade Mavs 41 mil cap space
Noah Ntilikina-7th
for
Hammons Smith Trimble-39th

O'Quinn Thomas 2018 1st for cap space

How to esemble 4 superstar team in NY
Wade opts out sign 4yr 72mil 15,17,19,21
Lebron & CP3 sign 4yr 112 mil 25,27,29,31. A 4 star team in ny market in advertising will overcome more money if they all maxed out elsewhere.
All 4 starts will make 90mil in 2017. All others salary 10 mil=102 mil cap
Knicks than sign MLE on Tony Allen and mini MCW

CP3/MCW/Trimble-35th
Wade/T.Allen/Bird-57th
Melo/Kuzminskas/Smith
Lebron/Porzingis/Hicks-44th
Plumlee/Hernangomez/Hammons

23 Feb 2017 05:36:25
Will it happen I dunno if Lebron leaves Cleveland. But he marches to different beat than anybody else. He already won a championship in Cleveland. If don't win a championship this yr. That team would have more pieces around Lebron than cavs or Warriors. Winning in ny after 40 yrs would make him equal Jordan his only competition. NY now worth 4 billion. Team value will triple. Once again the Zenmaster might coach again. It's possible.

22 Feb 2017 17:21:55
Boston: Okafor+ 1rnd pick sac 2019

Philly: Olynyk+ 1rnd pick Nets 2017

Boston buys time in this scenario.
They can try to get KD and/or G Hayward and/or B Griffin. If they fail to land a superstar, they still have two potential 1 overall picks to trade for guys like PG13 or J Butler, who can become unhappy and who wanted to be traded.
Okafor's stock is low for the moment, but he should be a starter and he still has potential.

C: horford
PF: B griffin
SF:Crowder/ J Brown
SG: G Hayward/Bradley
PG: IT/ Smart
This team could challenge the Cavs and Golden state

Philly can fasten the rebuilt after years tanking. They can land the 1st, 2nd and 4th pick (Nets,sac(or philly) and Lakers pick.
So in an ideal scenario they can draft Fullz, J Jackson and Monk

C: Embiid/ Noel
PF: B simmons/ Saric
Sf: J Jackson/ covington
Sg: Monk
Pg: Fullz
This could be a scary team in a few years.

22 Feb 2017 17:50:10
I like this.

22 Feb 2017 18:01:16
Okafor's value now is mid to late first-rounder.
No way Celtics give up the Nets pick for so little.

22 Feb 2017 18:08:17
Lmao i don't see boston giving the nets pick up for anyone on the sixers much less okafor. We have already been through this every team knows okafor is nothing more then an average scorer, and we all know philly wants to get read of him because his value keeps dropping. If you guys really thought he could be special you wouldn't be trading him.

22 Feb 2017 19:34:59
This is horrible for the Celtics. Nets pick worth way more than Okafor, and even though the Kings are a mess there are no guarantees on a pick so far away.

22 Feb 2017 19:34:59
Oh. I like this. I wonder why.

This is flat out stupid.

22 Feb 2017 19:59:07
You're right burger, of course a sixers fan would like this.

Is there any chance boston doesn't take fultz or ball with pick 1, if they are lucky enough to get it? They passed on the guard last year.

22 Feb 2017 22:24:26
Apparently Ainge is trying to avoid trading that Nets pick in a deal for Butler, which guarantees he would not give it up for Okafor.

23 Feb 2017 04:55:25
I can see them taking Ball, Last year he took Brown when he was projected 9th. So you never know with DA.

22 Feb 2017 15:08:28
Celtics trade Crowder, Rozier, A.Johnson, Jerebko, own 1st round pick 2018, 2nd round pick 2017 Clippers, 2nd round pick 2017 Cavs
Celtics get Griffin, Pierce, Holiday, Mbah

Knicks trade Anthony, Holiday
Knicks get Rozier, A.Rivers, Jerebko, W.Johnson, 1st round pick 2018 Celtics, 2nd round pick Clippers via Celtics, 2nd round pick Cavs via Celtics

Clippers trade Grffin, Pierce, A.Rivers, W.Johnson, Mbah
Clippers get Anthony, Crowder, A.Johnson

Celtics:
IT/Smart/Holiday
Bradley/Holiday/Young
J.Brown/Mbah/Pierce/Green
Griffin/Olynyk/Mickey
Horford/Zeller/Olynyk
- add another superstar in Griffin without giving up one of Nets' 1st round picks
- give J.Brown the starting job at SF with 3 vet behind (Pierce, Mbah, Green)
- trade the top pick for another superstar or draft future franchise player in loaded draft

Knicks:
- add young talent and future picks in order to rebuild around Porzingis

Clippers:
CP3/Felton/Crawford
Redick/Crawford/Anderson
Crowder/Anthony
Anthony/A.Johnson/Bass
Jordan/Speights
- if healthy Clippers is able to beat any team
- in Off-Season 2017/18 Clippers can sign LeBron James (let A.Johnson walk and CP3 opts out of contract)

22 Feb 2017 15:36:48
I feel at least one Brooklyn pick should go to LA if the C's are only giving up crowder for griffin.

22 Feb 2017 14:28:02
Cavs get: Terrence Jones

Pelicans get: Jordan McRae, Kay Felder


Cavs get another fron court option that can (maybe) match up with Draymond while creating a roster spot for Chalmers/Sanders etc.

Pelicans get a desperately needed SG and a cheap/upside 3rd string PG

22 Feb 2017 16:10:32
Pelicans/ Bucks

Bucks get Terrance Jones

Pelicans get SG Vaughn, and PG Terry

Bucks get the replacement for Parker

Pelicans get a SG, and a 3rd string PG.

23 Feb 2017 00:13:12
sas-nop

sas-t jones
nop- anderson

sas get athletic pf/ c that spurs need most specialy gasol got injured.

nop get a young talented point forward that can replace evans position.

22 Feb 2017 01:14:25
Cleveland Cavaliers - Chicago Bulls

Cleveland Cavaliers trade: Rights to Cedi Osman

Chicago Bulls trade: Michael Carter Williams

Cleveland finally gets a backup point guard. Chicago gets a decent prospect in return.

Cleveland Cavaliers - Utah Jazz

Cleveland Cavaliers trade: Tristan Thompson, 2021 first round pick, rights to swap first round picks in 2018 and 2020.

Utah Jazz trade: Derrick Favors

Cleveland gets a big that can protect the rim next to Kevin Love. Utah gets Thompson and a few draft picks.

Cleveland roster:
PG: Kyrie Irving / Michael Carter Williams / Kay Felder
SG: Iman Shumpert / J. R. Smith / DeAndre Liggins / Jordan McRae
SF: LeBron James / Richard Jefferson / Kyle Korver / James Jones
PF: Kevin Love / Derrick Williams
C: Derrick Favors / Channing Frye.

22 Feb 2017 02:37:33
Because the east is such a joke cleveland will always be a top 3 team, so why would any team want the right to swap picks? Thise swaps have no value.

22 Feb 2017 05:14:30
Don't like for Cleveland. They can get a MCW caliber pg off the streets (Chalmers or Cole) . After Favors recent knee troubles I'm not sure he is any better than Tristan Thompson and certainly not worth giving up picks and swaps for.

21 Feb 2017 16:51:00
Lakers/ Wizards/ Cavs

Lakers trade: Lou Williams and future 2nd
Lakers receive: Kelly Oubre, James Jones and Cavs 2021 1st

Wizards trade: Kelly Oubre and Trey Burke
Wizards receive: Lou Williams, Richard Jefferson, and Lakers 2nd round pick

Cavs trade: James Jones, Richard Jefferson and 2021 1st
Cavs receive: Trey Burke

21 Feb 2017 19:31:01
Cavs say no. Wizards say no.

21 Feb 2017 16:25:43
Dallas

DAL- Andre Drummond
DET- Andrew Bogut (exp), Imen Shumpert, DAL 2018 1st (top 10 protected)
CLE- Derron Williams

Dal gets their big man they have been looking for. DET gets Shump to play their defensive specialist an expiring contract, plus a 1st round pick. CLE gets their vet PG they wanted.

DAL- Ricky Rubio
MIN- Wesley Matthews

Dal gets a starting PG who can spread the ball to the shooters, and MIN gets a solid G to pair with LeVine and Dunn

NOWITZKI RETIRES (free's up $22 mil)


Sign
SF Gordon Heyward to MAX contract


PG- Ricky Rubio
SG- Gordon Heyward
SF- Harrison Barnes
PF- Dwight Powell
C- Andre Drummond

21 Feb 2017 16:12:20
3 team trade:
Melo to cavs

Rubio, Frye, Hill and Rush plus 1st rd pick protected from wolves to NY

Rose, Shumpert and Jefferson to Minny

21 Feb 2017 16:17:06
Wolves are getting hosed here. To me the asset value goes

Melo
Rubio
Minny first
Rose

The rest of the pieces are cuttable.

21 Feb 2017 16:11:32
DAL-DET-CLE

DAL- Andre Drummond
DET- Andrew Bogut (exp), & Imen Shumpert, DAL 2018 1st (top 10 protected)
CLE- Deron Williams


Dallas gets the C they have been looking for to pair with Barnes for the future.

Detroit gets Shumpert who is a Defensive specialist that VanGundy likes, an expiring contract in Bogut, and a first from DAL.

Cleveland gets the Veteran PG they have been looking for.

21 Feb 2017 16:17:42
This is ridiculous.

21 Feb 2017 16:21:15
Wow, that's terrible value back for Drummond. Maybe if the pick was Dallas 2017 pick and it was unprotected. More likely a draft day trade when you know where the pick lands.

21 Feb 2017 18:44:40
This would only happen is divac was the GM for Detroit lol.

21 Feb 2017 03:17:47
Celtics-Bulls-Kings

Celtics get Jimmy Butler, Ben McLemore, Willie Cauley-Stein

Bulls get Avery Bradley, Jaylen Brown, Tyler Zeller, 2018 Brooklyn 1st, 2019 Clippers lottery protected 1st, 2017 Cavs 2nd, rights to Ante Zizic (via Celtics)

Kings get Nikola Mirotic, MCW, 2019 Celtics 2nd.

21 Feb 2017 04:07:01
Don't understand why you feel the need to hit the Kings while they are down.

This is the type of offer I think Celtics should send for Butler (Keep Brooklyn 2017 pick) and see what happens. If I'm the Bulls I'd wait until offseason to trade Butler after I gauge the FA market.

21 Feb 2017 04:32:02
Part of the reason to clear out Boogie was to give a guy like WCS a chance to play. The Kings wouldn't move him for this package.

21 Feb 2017 04:50:44
They can just give Papagiannis a chance lol.

20 Feb 2017 19:50:59
3 team deal

Okc get: CJ Miles and jae crowder

Bos gets: PG13

the pacers just got much more value the kings and damarcus is better then pg13. also pacers get young pieces to get a good rebuild because they can't beat cle bos tornto washington

pacers get: Brooklyn 2017 pick Alex abrines kyle syngler joffery lauverne
domantas sobonis marcus okc 2 2nd smart or brown

Okc gets shooters and defenders without giving up too much talent now but affect their future but westbrook won't be around unless okc STOPS LOOKING FOR PICKS AND YOUNG TALENT AND SHOWS THE WANNA WIN NOW



bos gets superstar to team up with thomas

Free agency:

okc signs griffin 4 108 mil player option o year 3 and tucker 3 year 18 mil

iny drafts fultz

bos signs milsap 3 year 73 mil and noel 3 year 60 mil kcp 2 year 35 mil

OKC

Westbrook/payne
dipo/miles
crowder/tucker
griffin/grant
adams/kanter

okc and bos turns to contender and can win the title'

indy gets rebuild


TELL ME IF YOU THINK IT GOOD

20 Feb 2017 20:10:46
I wouldn't use the Cousins trade as a barometer for PG13's value currently as George has another year on his contract and isn't the mercurial character Cousins is. Also George is much more versatile player. Pacers should however figure out what they want to do with him fast so they don't find themselves in a similar situation the Kings found themselves in our worse since George is noncommittal on signing an extension with Pacer even if its 200+mill.

Don't think its an awful trade for PG13 but the franchise should likely wait until the offseason to do a trade after they have more time to evaluate things and see how playoffs go. Would be great pickups for the Thunder and really good (almost too good) value. Those Boston signings I think are very unrealistic. With IT and Bradley going to be FA summer 2018 they aren't going to commit that much money to FA (doubt they even can) . KCP isn't going anywhere especially for that little as a restricted FA and 76ers seem committed to Noel now so I think they'd begrudgingly match that offer.

20 Feb 2017 21:31:11
Boston would rather have Butler, would give them an extra year of flexibility.
Boston gives the 17 Brkln pick, A Bradley and Crowder for Butler.

21 Feb 2017 01:10:39
thx for sharing.

20 Feb 2017 18:50:41
Cavs get Melo, Noah, Tim Frazier, and Terrance Jones

New Orleans gets jr smith, Shumpert, and Brandon Jennings

New York gets Tristan Thompson, solomon Hill, E'twaun moore, Ajinca, Felder, and a 2nd round pick from NO

The Cavs get melo without giving up picks or Love, get an over paid center that is similiar in style to Noah, a back up pg, and some depth at the 4 and 5

New orleans gets some veteran 3 and D players to go with their bigs.

The knicks get a few young talented players and can move on from Melo while also getting rid of Noah's contract and adding a center that fits well with Prozingas.

20 Feb 2017 22:18:39
This week Melo wants to be only traded yo LAC or LA Lakers.

20 Feb 2017 17:33:16
Cavs I feel may make a last second push for Carmelo. Won't give up Love but maybe a trade like this can work for all teams.

Cavs Knicks Timberwolves

Cavs receives
Melo
Rose
Hill
OQuinn

Knicks receives
Thompson
Frye
Rubio
Muhammad
2017 second round picks from Wolves and Cavs

Wolves receives
Shumpert
Smith

20 Feb 2017 18:09:50
Terrible trade for the Cavs. They end up with no defense and 5 players that need a lot of touches to be effective.

20 Feb 2017 19:03:16
Cavs aren't going to trade over a quarter of their team and two starters this late. Also that team wouldn't even be good. I'd hate to have Melo as my 3rd option since he doesn't do much other than score so he wouldn't be all that effective unless he comes off the bench. Who would they play at sg after they trade away Smith and Shumpert? The teams defense would be horrible can't have a team full of scorers and ball dominant players. This late in the season that would be a recipe for disaster ruining the team's chemistry and possibly leading to an early exit from playoffs.

Don't think Twolves would even do that trade.

20 Feb 2017 20:48:40
Thompson is the only starter because Liggins actually usually starts but I do understand your point. Honestly I believe a trade probably won't happen even though the Cavs would love to get Melo for the right price. This may only happen if Boston or Toronto makes another significant improvement to their team and forces Cavs to try and make something happen. As we see now with Cousins anything can happen.

20 Feb 2017 21:51:14
Lebron for Baker Noah makes more sense.

20 Feb 2017 15:19:21
Cavs get jones ajinca Moore
Pelicans get shumpert cash liggins McRae

Cavs sign chalmers

Irving chalmers felder
Smith korver Moore
James Jefferson jones
Love frye Williams
Thompson ajinca jones

20 Feb 2017 15:44:06
I really like the deal for Cavs. Jones is a good young versatile player. Not sure he cracks the rotation much for Cavs but is a low risk decent upside throw in that reportedly wants out of Nola. Ajinca is a big body that could provide depth up front and fill the backup center void for Cavs. Moore is a very solid 3 and D player that could fill Shumpert's role and who I think would be a valuable contributor.

Ajinca and Jones both want out of Nola and Shumpert isn't a bad starting player on a reasonable contract. Could make sense for nola too.

20 Feb 2017 16:56:43
I don't see the Cavs trading Shumpert for depth at the end of the bench. I don't see Shump moving unless the Cavs get an impact player back. They'll probably work the buy out market or a trade exception, if they choose to add depth at the 4 and 5.

20 Feb 2017 17:54:06
Shumpert has the value of a mid second round pick. This would be a great trade for the cavs.

The return for him wouldn't and shouldn't be much better.

20 Feb 2017 10:34:16
Melo to Cavs
JrSmith to Okc
Shumpert and C. Payne to Minny
Rubio, Collison, Morrow and 1st rd pick from Okc to NY

LeBron-Melo forming a Big 4 with Kyrie and Love

JRsmith helping Russ with Oladipo as 6th man

Rubio for Shumpert and Payne (a fair trade)

Rubio will be NY future PG plus a 1st pick from OKC..

20 Feb 2017 11:29:16
Not horrible trade. I would love to see Rubio on the floor alongside LeBron, Irving, and Love. That's a big time move for the Cavs.

20 Feb 2017 14:06:57
Yes how exciting, Knicks loose Melo to Shumpert and JrSmith after they trade the 2 for salary dumps. To gain Rubio Collison Morrow 30th pick. All of sudden every owner and is as dumb Kings GM. Vladi Devac should be fired.

20 Feb 2017 14:08:43
Correction OKC 20 picks, BC Cavs still keep there pick BC landing Melo was enough with Shumpert and JrSmith.

20 Feb 2017 14:48:43
So OKC trades Cameron Payne, Anthony Morrow, and a 1st for JR Smith?!?! I don't think so.

20 Feb 2017 08:02:30
Separate moves to upgrade T'wolves defensively

Cavs/Wolves

MIN Gives: Tyus Jones and Bjelica
MIN Gets: Iman Shumpert

Sixers/Wolves

MIN Gives: Bazz and Rubio
MIN Gets: Nerlens Noel, TJ McConnel


Potential Lineup:

PG: McConnel/Dunn
SG: Shumpert
SF: Wiggins
PF: Noel/Dieng
C: Towns/Aldrich

Wolves will get LaVine back next season and they will probably have a top 10 pick as well. I know everyone wants to make the playoffs this year but it might be better to upgrade the defense and aquire a bench in the offseason.

Next Years Potential Lineup:

PG: Dunn/McConnel
SG: LaVine/Shumpert
SF: Wiggins/Stephenson
PF: Noel/Dieng
C: Towns

They would have flexibility with the pick next year to take a PG if Dunn isn't working out or a Wing to provide scoring off the bench. I think the defensive upgrade is key though. They have guys that can score in Towns, LaVine, and Wiggins.

20 Feb 2017 10:47:25
Sixers say No.

20 Feb 2017 11:27:07
Just imagine Rubio's creative passing and ability to make plays alongside Embiid, Simmons, and Saric. That's the type of point guard Philly needs. Someone willing to distribute the rock to those 3.

20 Feb 2017 12:17:36
That's most of what Mcconell does, pus helps the team with his energy. Also simmons is going to be the distributor when he comes back, so no need for rubio.

20 Feb 2017 12:25:40
I was just throwing an idea out there based on rumors I keep seeing about Philly interested in Rubio. I agree, McConnell has been doing great lately and ditto on Simmons. I just think Rubio is the veteran PG that could make all those young pieces fit. I am also a Wolves fan that is trying to fix the team's defensive woes.

20 Feb 2017 18:14:07
Rubio isn't making the pieces fit in minnasota. Why would that change in philly?

 
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