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24 Oct 2016 17:27:47
Cavs Spurs



Personally considering the age factor with Thompson being 25 and Aldridge being 31 I think both them straight up is close to the same value but let's say Aldridge is higher some, Shumpert is added for defense and youth in Pops system. McRae well is McRae and will shoot the heck out the ball but also the Cavs save 5 mil in this deal and with their salary situation is huge! Thompson may be great for the Cavs but Aldridge is another weapon who can drop 20-30 points any given night and with Love improving defense (not shot blocking but overall ability to guard smart and tight on his man) the Cavs would be overall in a better position I feel to contend with GSW again.

24 Oct 2016 19:21:58
Stopped listening when you said Thompson is worth Aldridge straight up clear homer from there.

25 Oct 2016 05:05:50
Shumpert and McRae bring negative value if anything.

22 Oct 2016 06:20:06
Cavs and Wolves

Since wolves have called about Shumpert.

Cavs receive

Wolves receive
Either Cash Considerations or future second round draft pick.

22 Oct 2016 13:40:41
Wolves would never do that.

22 Oct 2016 19:13:51
Why would Minnesota do that? Lavine is on a rookie contract and I think he's already better than Shump. Shump is overpaid.

22 Oct 2016 23:50:12
Did Wolves actually call about Shumpert? Couldn't see them giving up much more than Muhammad for him. Maybe Dieng if Cavs added more (not sure if they have anything else of interest they'd be willing to move)

21 Oct 2016 22:06:45

Cavs get Collison and McLemore

Twolves get Shumpert

Kings get Rubio.

22 Oct 2016 00:59:16
The wolves get screwed. No way does shumpert compare to Rubio.

22 Oct 2016 04:53:11
Wolves say no.

22 Oct 2016 06:21:37
Maybe switch Rubio with Muhammad and Jones.

20 Oct 2016 06:16:26

Cavs receive

This is only if the Cavs feel the need to change the team or if they thought the Warriors were to much and wanted their own big 4. I get the idea where people think they won't trade Thompson but they will for a star because they said the only true untouchables are Bron and Kyrie. They wanted Aldridge before and I bet if the feeling is mutual with Aldridge in desire to play with the big 3 and make it the 4 then Cavs could do it.

Spurs receive

If the Spurs feel Aldridge is truely not worth it then I feel Pops will love Farieds hustle and energy with his defensive mindset and ability to play well in a team by doing the little things. I think add Shumpert to Leonard and Faried and Mills and that 4 is a fearsome defensive core to build with. Barton is a young player on the rise for Pop to teach and Frye is the mentor big that Spurs are famous for but he can of course still contribute.

Nuggets receive

Since the Nuggets have been trying to find a home for Faried at a good cost then they do with Thompson who is pretty much Faried without the current tension they have and the also add Green to who can fit with the young core like Galo does and help lead them and with chandler coming back it clears the log jam of minutes. Of course McRae is who he is and a young offensive threat who will only get better. Overall good return for Faried and Barton.

20 Oct 2016 13:09:29
The cavs need a defensive player in the middle.
K Love and LMA isn't a good defensive combo
LMA wants to be more involved in scoring and that's not going to happen in Cleveland.

It's not a bad return for the Spurs They could take this offer if LMA really wants out.

I like Green going to the Nuggets, but they don't need Thompson, K Love would be a much better option.

17 Oct 2016 09:32:29
Cavs Wizards Wolves

Wizards receive
Future 1st from Cavs

Wolves receive
Porter jr

Cavs receive

17 Oct 2016 13:08:11
Why would the Wolves trade LaVine for that?
Why would Washington trade Wall for more shootingguards?

I don't even think this is a good trade for Cleveland.
They need 3-point shooting.
They trade Dunleavy and they can't resign Smith, because Pekovic contract is to big.
And they trade away their best center and rebounder.
And Irving is better than Wall, so wall is a sixth man or Irving plays shootingguard, where he will be less effective.

17 Oct 2016 13:10:54
Why? Just why. Irving and wall?

17 Oct 2016 13:11:37
Big no from Washington, and why Wall if the Cavs plan on keeping Irving?

17 Oct 2016 17:10:18
This trade is bad, but Wall/ Irving backcourt makes sense. Irving woukd be better suited in an AI role where he would primarily score while Wall is the primary defender and playmaker who is surrounded by shooters (Love, Irving, Smith) But yeah cavs run off like bandits and spend like 300mil in cap.

18 Oct 2016 03:00:56
Oh yeah why not throw in lebron james for andrew wiggins.

15 Oct 2016 19:22:39
Boston: B Griffinc (resign) + P Pierce
Cle: P Millsap
clippers: K Love+ Brown+ Schroder+A Johnson+ 1rnd pick Nets 17+ return 1rnd pick clippers 19

Clippers 2017
Draft: J Jackson
Sign: Hayward
Resign: Reddick and Schroder

C: D Jordan
PF: K Love
Sf: J Brown
SG: Hayward
PG: Schroder
Bench: J Jackson/ Reddick/ Crawford/ Mbah La Moute.

15 Oct 2016 20:32:29
Celtics would not do this trade. No benefit. Blake Griffin is not a good fit for the team man.

16 Oct 2016 20:18:52
I don't understand how Blake would be a bad fit. Horford can play center. That might be the best big duo in the NBA.

14 Oct 2016 17:14:57

Cle: WC Stein + R Gay
Sac: K Love

C: Thompson
SF: R Gay
SG: Smith
PG: Irving
Sixth: WC Stein

C: D Cousins
PF: K Love
SF: Barnes
PG: T Lawson
Sixth: McLemore.

14 Oct 2016 18:53:04
Value-wise itis a fair trade, but I don't like the fit. Love and DMC would be terrible defensively.

14 Oct 2016 03:38:14

Cavaliers acquire Aaron Afflalo, Rudy Gay, Kosta Koufos and future 1st round pick
* they improve depth and could play a lot of small ball
* sign Mario Chalmers

K. Irving-M. Chalmers-K. Felder
A. Afflalo-I. Shumpert
R. Gay-M. Dunleavy-R. Jefferson
L. James-C. Frye
T. Thompson-K. Koufos-C. Andersen

Kings acquire Kevin Love
* acquire a second star next to Cousins

D. Collison-T. Lawson
B. McLemore-G. Temple
O. Casspi-M. Barnes
K. Love-Papa-Skal
D. Cousins-W. Cauley-Stein.

14 Oct 2016 09:41:34
Cavs don't need the pick they are much better off with another player. Remember JR is 99% guaranteed to be on the cavs to. Also where are McRae and Jones in the rotation for the cavs - that doesn't matter tho. Rudy Gay and Lebron James play the same position and Gay would take shots away from Irving and James. The Cavs are better trading Love to a team like the Celtics who don't have a star. Love could return to his star form there.

14 Oct 2016 11:55:02
I kinda like it as the Cavs are able to bolster their depth. They receive a solid backup center in Koufos on favorable contract, Afflalo a solid 3 and D guy (even if they get Smith you can never have too many saavy veterans), and although Gay gets a lot of flack I think he'll benefit by playing with better players like Lebron and Kyrie. I probably wouldn't start him with those two and instead bring him off the bench as sixth man scoring punch and slot in one of other perimeter players at starting sf position (if get Smith start him at 2 and Afflalo at 3 or something) . Frye as he displayed i short stretches can provide the stretch 4 role that Love has been largely relegated to.

I'm not certain how much a move to sacramento helps Love especially being next to Cousins but if nothing more he'll get more touches and shots.

14 Oct 2016 21:18:46
Good trade. but Koufas and Thompson would Starr with Gay as the 6th man.

11 Oct 2016 13:04:20
4 teams trade:

Lakers get JR Smith and 2 2nd rd picks from philly
Philly get Gay
Kings get Clarkson
Cavaliers get Young and Noel

Lakers is interested with JR smith and plan to waive young.
Philly has too many 2nd rd picks plus Simmons want to sit the whole season, why not use Gay as one year rental.
Kings Gay for Clarkson seems a good swap, with Collison facing suspension.
Cavs get pieces with one year left on their contracts, a back to back Championship will cement LeBron's Legacy.


Sixers: (Simmons sitting out whole season)



11 Oct 2016 15:02:19
Lakers at hell no.

11 Oct 2016 15:04:54
Great trade for Sacramento :)

11 Oct 2016 15:06:09
Lakers say no way. Clarkson has more value to them than smith. He's still young, and improving, on a good contract and has a great relationship with players and coaches. Plus for JR it's not a good basketball move to go to LA. Kings should give more.

11 Oct 2016 16:29:40
Philly passes. Gay is too old for the sixers. We'd rather go younger.

11 Oct 2016 21:23:04
JR is a free agent.

07 Oct 2016 21:39:39
Pipe dream

Boston gives up johnson, smart, crowder and both nets picks along with boston 2018 pick, Memphis 2019 pick

SAS gives up Aldridge and Mills

Thomas/ Mills
Bradley/ rozier
Brown/ green
Aldridge/ olynyk
Horford/ zeller

This team beats Cleveland and gives GSW a run for the title. Who says no and why?

07 Oct 2016 21:44:01
Celtics say no, easily, bc Aldridge is grossly overrated and not worth all that package.

07 Oct 2016 23:51:05
That's disgustingly bad for the celtics,

08 Oct 2016 14:34:39
Drop the Nets picks and Boston would do this trade.

08 Oct 2016 15:30:39
Not a chance. Aldridge is a nice player, but has close to 800 games on his legs.

13 Oct 2016 05:45:22
Aldridge equals nba finals my friend. Think back to another power forward who came in the latter part of his career and helped boston win a title. I'll give you a hint, it's in my name ;)

05 Oct 2016 08:49:56

Cle: Calderon+ L williams+ Randle
LA: K Love

C: Mozgov/ black/ Zubac
PF: K Love/ Nance
SF: Deng/ Ingram
SG: Clarckson/ Ingram
Pg: Russell.

05 Oct 2016 10:42:14
That's just the package Cleveland has been looking for.

04 Oct 2016 23:35:05
Charlotte: K Love
Cle: MKG+ M Williams+ 2rnd pick Cha

C: Kaminski/ Hibbert
PF: K Love/ Zeller
SF: Batum/ Bellineli
SG: Lamb/ Bellinelli
PG: Walker/ Sessions

C: Thompson/ C Andersen
PF: LBJ/ Frye
SF: MKG/ M Williams
SG: Shumpert/ Dunleavy
PG: Irving/ T Douglas.

05 Oct 2016 05:27:00
Ideally I think Cavs would love to have Batum be part of this deal as I think he is perfect fit for Cavs as a versatile glue guy who does everything well and they'd much rather Batum's offensive game to MKGs youth. I'd probably take Batum and Lamb or Bellinelli for Love.

This deal isn't bad though as Marvin Williams can fill the stretch 4 role while MKG gives you lockdown defense, youth and reasonable contract. The offensive spacing would take a significant hit tho which is why if I were Cavs I'd really want Batum for his versatility and then another wing player to add some depth. Cavs also could use a rim protector too so maybe Hibbert could revive his career there as a backup big body.

04 Oct 2016 01:44:11
3 teams trade
Cavs get McLemore and Labissiere
Kings get Monroe, Shumpert and MoWilliams contract plus protected 1st pick from bucks
Bucks get Gay and Koufos

Cavs shedding salaries to sign JR smith (could include DJones in a trade) . McLemore will serve as new Shumpert and Labissiere will be their backup big man.

Kings get to play Cousins-Monroe tandem, Barnes playing SF and Afflalo at SG. Shumpert will serves as 6th man on the team.

Bucks get to play Antetokounmpo at SG then Gay at Sf and let Thon maker develop as starting center.

04 Oct 2016 08:18:04
So sacramento should bench WC Stein for Monroe?
This is a steal for the Cavs.

03 Oct 2016 08:33:01

Washington: K Love
Clev: Morris+ gortat+ swap 17 pick.

04 Oct 2016 12:29:32
actually pretty good

02 Oct 2016 07:44:01
If I'm the kings. I'm keeping Cousins and paying a heavy ransom for Kevin Love because that would be a great front court tandom to build around.

Kings get Kevin Love and JR Smith s&t

Cavs get Willie Cauley Stein, Rudy Gay, Ben McLemore, Darren Collison, and Top 5 protected 2017 1st

Pf. K. Love/ A. Tolliver/ S. Labasairre
Sf. O. Casspi/ M. Barnes/ C. Butler
C. D. Cousins/ K. Koufas/ G. Pappagiannis
Sg. A. Afflalo/ J. Smith/ G. Temple
Pg. T. Lawson/ J. Farmar/ I. Cousins

Pf. T. Thompson/ C. Frye/ C. Jefferson
Sf. L. James/ R. Gay (6m) / R. Jefferson
C. W. Cauley/ C. Anderson/ E. Moreland
Sg. I. Shumpert/ B. Mclemore/ M. Dunleavy
Pg. K. Irving/ D. Collison/ K. Felder

Clevelands only concern right now is depth. Even tho Rudy Gay is not as good as Love, he will put up about the same points. this makes their interior defense better and makes them much deeper.

02 Oct 2016 10:25:28
I like the Gay+ Stein for Love trade. K Love-Cousins would be great.
But sacramento can't trade their pick.

02 Oct 2016 17:26:25
If I'm Cleveland I'm not moving JR in this deal unless I could get Afflalo in return (he just signed so can't be traded for awhile) . I kind of like the idea of moving Love for Gay and WCS and McLemore for both teams. However that Cavs lineup I don't think will work well. I can't imagine WCS and Thompson both on the floor together for extended periods of time. I'd prefer starting Gay and James at the forward spots.

01 Oct 2016 20:27:48
Magic get Kevin Love

Cavs get Nikola Vucevic, Mario Herzonja, and CJ Watson

Pf. K. Love/ A. Gordon
Sf. J. Green/ C. Wilcox
C. S. Ibaka/ B. Biyambo
Sg. E. Fournier/ J. Meeks
Pg. E. Payton/ D. Augustine

Pf. T. Thompson/ C. Frye
Sf. L. James/ M. Dunleavy
C. N. Vucevic/ C. Anderson
Sg. M. Herzonja/ I. Shumpert
Pg. K. Irving/ C. Watson.

02 Oct 2016 00:52:01
I like this trade for Cleveland
The value is correct, but i'm not sure K Love is what Orlando is looking for.

02 Oct 2016 06:55:14
Love actually gives Orlando their leading scorer like in his Minnesota days and gives them a great offense/ defense combo with him and Ibaka.

02 Oct 2016 07:22:25

02 Oct 2016 13:00:01
Love can get good statistics on a bad team.
But he can't lead a team.
Orlando need a leader, maybe the can trade for Butler

Orl: J Butler
Chi: Fournier+ A Gordon+ 1rnd pick Orl 17 + 1rnd pick LA 19.

02 Oct 2016 17:29:41
I don't think Love is a difference maker for Orlando. This trade not only doesn't solve their front court log jam but weakens their already subpar backcourt in losing Hezonja.

Not sure I really like it for Cavs either since Vucevic can't really play the 4 and is an offensive center which they don't really need. Hezonja has good upside but is still raw and Cavs as a contender aren't going to be too patient.

01 Oct 2016 09:37:10
Cavs Pelicans Sacramento

Pelicans receive

Cavs receive

Sacramento receives
2018 1st round from Pelicans
2020 1st round from Cavs.

01 Oct 2016 19:44:58
I think the Cavs would trade Kevin Love before Tristan Thompson, I think Thompson is more important to the Cavs success and is a better fit with Cousins and Love would get sick of being the 4th option in Cleveland behind Lebron, Kyrie and Cousins. I think Thompson is very important to the Cavs success and it doesn't show on the stat sheet, he brings important toughness, defense, and of course defense. Kevin Love be more easily replaced than Tristan Thompson.

02 Oct 2016 01:21:10
Kings get screwed.

30 Sep 2016 23:43:24
Cavs resign smith
Sign Chalmers josh smith sanders

Irving Chalmers McRae
Smith Shumpert jones
James dunleavy Jefferson
Love Frye smith
Thompson sanders Andersen.

01 Oct 2016 04:34:32
You forgot we already have Fielder and D Jones as well. Smith and Chalmers is all you can do.

30 Sep 2016 21:56:31
Won't happen but okc moves before season starts

Atlanta / cavs / okc

Atlanta: ilyasova, mcgary, singler, 2 2nd okc

Cavs: Millsap

Okc: love

Sac / okc

Okc: gay
Sac: morrow and 17 first

Russ / payne / price
Dipo / abrines
Gay / Roberson
Love / kanter
Adams / lavergne / sabonis

They gain love who is a great player capable of 20/ 12 a game in the right team. Would give the team needed spacing. Also a great mate of russ. Solid 4 rotation of kanter and love also pick and role between love adams and russ would be solid

Adding gay would fill the whole left at the 3. Give more shooting, slashing and defense.

This team could push the warriors

Don't resign gay unless he is perfect fit if nonot sign Hayward
Sign Griffen, look to trade love or kanter.

30 Sep 2016 22:08:07
NOOOO This is ridiculous atlanta get nothing for millsap
sacramento want a lot for gay not a first rounder in the 20s if you already have westbrook, love and are adding gay as well as morrow who is worth a second round pick. 'This team could push the warriors'. If this team could half push the warriors with moves they would do it. I hate it how people just nonchalantly say sign hayward, sign griffin. Hayward will get max or near max and griffin will probs get max. Westbrook is on max and Steven Adams will have a near max as well. Kevin Love is also getting 20 mil per year. How is this going to fit under the cap?

01 Oct 2016 00:15:32
no way Atlanta does this.

01 Oct 2016 20:09:01
European players aren't safe players that's a law.
Don't you know that?
Probabilty often miss.

Nerlens porzigins mclemore jackson
Probably need an real ofer.

02 Oct 2016 15:43:27
Barnes thompson rondo simmons
Gay griffin robinson

03 Oct 2016 16:53:37
Simmons done.

29 Sep 2016 08:18:22
3 Team Cavs Philly Sac

Cavs receive

Philly receives

Sacramento receives
T. Thompson
Hollis Thompson

29 Sep 2016 13:08:46
Big no from Philly.

29 Sep 2016 13:19:29
Sixers can do better.

We're getting too many bigs in return and that doesn't help us. Shumpert is the only value in this deal for the sixers and it costs Noel Thompson and one of our better players in Covington.

Terrible trade for the sixers.

29 Sep 2016 14:40:52
Kings say no. They don't need Noel, they have WCS. They need wings and guards.

29 Sep 2016 16:06:30
The sixers are actually only getting one big back in Koufus. Collison is a PG, Shumpert is a SG and McRae is also a SG. Not saying that its a good return for Noel, Covington and Thompson but I just wanted you to know that TreGib.

30 Sep 2016 14:16:05
Larry one big is too many.

Collision doesn't upgrade our pg spot. Bayless and Sergio are at least on par with him.

McRae is a terrible player. He was drafted by the sixers and we know all about his ability

So the only player of any value is shumpert. Frankly I think Covington could be just as effective as shumpert if he was on the Cavs last year. Basically what I'm saying is the sixers lose the deal if they only included Covington. Let alone Noel and Thompson. So not a good deal at all for them.

30 Sep 2016 15:57:40
Correct me if I'm wrong but you are giving up 2 big men (Thompson and Noel) and only getting 1. I think that makes things better.

And there is no way that Collison isn't an upgrade over those two players. Sergio hasn't played in the NBA in like 5 years, and when he was here he was nothing more than a backup on a bad team, and I was able to watch Bayless when he was in Boston and he is very much overrated. Collison would definitely be a better option then those 2.

30 Sep 2016 17:31:17
Forget about the position of the players the Sixers are getting back, and just look at the lack of value/ talent. That's a horrible package for Noel and Covington.

02 Oct 2016 02:26:48
Larry you are wrong there

Thompson is a sg. Specially is three.

Sergio hasn't played in the NBA in a while but collision is a back up at best. Bayless can shoot. That's why he's useful. He shoot 41 percent from three last year. With so many big he helps spread the floor. He's not a star. Maybe a sixth man.

05 Oct 2016 07:02:26
Terrible deal for the Sixers and the Kings.

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