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29 Nov 2015 08:10:03
Celtics - Clippers - Sixers

After the Clippers project did not work-the must make some changes

The trade:

Celtics get: Deandre Jordan, Covington

Clippers get: Noel, Sullinger, Lee ( (exp. -waive) + 2016 Mavs Pick

Sixers get: Josh Smith, Lance Stephenson, Marcus Smart + 2 2nd Rounders

There is no loser in this trade.

29 Nov 2015 08:43:47
Celtics are the loser lol why would they want an idiot like deandre.

29 Nov 2015 14:38:37
Divers are losers. They get what, 3 players known for awful attitudes and immaturity? Only one is young enough of a prospect to be somewhat excused, smart. So the sixers give up their best defender and a role player wing for lots of salary, crappy players, one prospect and even more seconds. Pass.

29 Nov 2015 18:31:03
Sixers lose. And Sixers pass. Smart isn't worth Covington and Noel. He's more of a defense player but not as good as Noel is on defense. So what's the point.

29 Nov 2015 19:07:10
Smart is a better prospect than Noel is. Smart's upside is Westbrook; Noel's is Dalembert.

29 Nov 2015 20:58:56
Ha! Smarts upside is Westbrook. Where in the world have you seen Westbrook production from smart. He's purely a defensive player. Can't shoot. Thai is why the Celtics rarely can score. Westbrook is a superstar. Smart doesn't even beat him in any single category.

Noel I think would be loved on the Celtics. He's from Boston. He loves Boston. But unfortunately in this trade they're sending him to the clippers. Him and Blake griffin could work together but still. He's not deandre Jordan. I don't see how this helps them.

30 Nov 2015 15:26:26
BHC, smart's upside is closer to kobe bryant/michael jordan. Well, that if you can infuse Jerry west into it. He clearly is projected to be the best in the history of the world.

So now, speaking in reality. that is such a ridiculous talent evaluation. Smart, perhaps he could develop into a fringe all star pg, but most likely, nope. I would guess his BEST could be like the impact of george hill/mike conley, which is great, but absolutely NOT an MVP candidate.

Noel, his prospects are Dalembert? Seriously? Dalemberts best year was 10 points, 10 boards, 1.9 blocks. with the sixers. Noel, in his second year, is already at that. You seriously look absurd with that post. I am not sold on Noel being a franchise cornerstone, but I would say his game is more along the lines of Deandre Jordan. Rebounding/defensive/dunking specialist. Great player to build around, potential all star, not a franchise cornerstone.

Westbrook? Dalembert? Ridiculous.

30 Nov 2015 18:22:14
Marcus Smart's peak will never amount to Westbrook's rookie year.

25 Nov 2015 20:57:55

CHI get Wesley Matthews, Raymond Felton, Robin Lopez and DAL 1st

Pg Rose/Brooks/Felton
Sg Matthews/Moore/Hinrich
Sf Butler/McDermott/Snell
Pf Mirotic/Gibson
Ce Lopez/Portis

DAL get Joakim Noah, Jose Calderon and Aaron Afflalo and 2nd from NYK

Pg Williams/Calderon
Sg Afflalo/Harris
Sf Parsons/Evans
Pf Nowitzki/Powell
Ce Noah/Pachulia/McGee

NYK get Pau Gasol, JJ Barea and Mike Dunleavy

Pg Barea/Grant
Sg Galloway/Dunleavy/Vujacic
Sf Anthony/Williams
Pf Gasol/Oquinn
Ce Porzingis/Seraphin

i don't know who's losing and who's winning with the deal. Please give some opinion?

25 Nov 2015 19:51:02
OKC Get: Wesley Matthews

Mavs Get: Steve Novak, Anthony Morrow, Steven Adams, Tony Wroten, Denver 2016 2nd (via Philly), Charlotte 2016 2nd (via OKC), OKC Top 14 Protected 2020 1st (via OKC)

76ers Get: Dion Waiters.

25 Nov 2015 21:10:36
This could work form Sixers point of view.

25 Nov 2015 22:20:54
Way too much for Matthews

25 Nov 2015 01:31:06
Cleveland Cavaliers And Dallas Maverick

Tristan Thompson For Tyson Chandler

25 Nov 2015 05:41:08
Can I use your time machine when you're done with it?

25 Nov 2015 09:03:41
Yo chandler is on the suns lol.

22 Nov 2015 18:30:49
Cleveland Cavaliers And Dallas Maverick

Anderson Varejão And Matthew Delly For Zaza Pachulia And Raymond Felton

22 Nov 2015 09:59:46
If the Kings think, they are in win now mode with that roster and if they wanna keep Cousins they should try to trade for a very mobile PF/C that can play over and protect the rim! A Player that can attack the rim and create some space for shooters or Cousins. A player like Faried, Gibson or Hickson. Maybe there is no trade for Faried but Kings could try:

Kings: Gibson
Chicago: Koufos

Kings: Hickson, Foye
Denver: Koufos, Curry

(If Chi get Koufos, they could move Noah to Dallas : )

22 Nov 2015 12:44:52
Trade one is pretty good, don't like trade two for the Kings.

22 Nov 2015 09:47:18
I posted it after the first Dallas match. I like the Team. The Team has a good "flow", I meen, it works. And they are at the beginning to understand each other and to recover. Are they a top 4 Team? I am not sure. : ) I think maybe they can battle for the 4 or 5 seat? I think Nowitzki has this an maybe, "maybe" another Season next year. How to build a contenter in the meantime?

Best case? Howard opts out next Season and Mavs are able to sign big fishes?

FA 2016

First contender!


But maybe neither the one nor the other will come to Dallas? : )

In Phonix, Chandler looks not happy and the Suns to not utilize him much. Get him back? Chanlder/McGee are first class Center Combo. As mentioned, I would prefere Noah. He is a beast, that's what Nowitzki says. I would realy like to have Noah/McGee at Center. It depents on the mid term Vision of Chicago and Noah, think Dallas would say ok. I like Pachulia much, respect! Maybe he is the better scorer (what Chi Needs) and a hard Defender, but Mavs Need one Player on the court that can play over the rim, so Noah/McGee are a very good Combo!

Trade winter 15:
Dallas: Noah, Felton, 2nd pick
Chicago: Pachulia, Felton, 1st pick

Having Noah (but maybe also with Pachulia) Mavs could cause a Sensation in the PlayOffs to hire a good Player in FA 2016. Maybe Durant. I am not sure. I would like to go for Gallinari, but he will have 2 years contract. So we have to weights to trade for Noah this Season. Do we think, we can win the thing with Noah?
If not maybe Mavs should plan for next Season, maybe trade for Chandler in the winter or wait for the summer:

FA 2016 proposal 2:
-FA Noah
-Trade a first pick for Gallinari

Noah, McGee
Gallinari, Nowitzki/Powell
Parsons, Gallinari
Matthews, Anderson/Jenkins
DWil, Harris/Barea.

22 Nov 2015 10:14:50
as a bulls fan, i also like the idea of pachulia and a 1st for noah.

21 Nov 2015 06:33:44
Celtics trade: Smart

Memphis trades: Conley

This Trade works with our trade-exep. Both sides are happy with that. Conley is a FA in 2016 and Memphis get a nice return - Celtics have the PG of the future.

Celtics trade: Thomas, Lee and Young + 2016 Mavs and Celtics Pick

Knicks trade: Melo

Conley - Bradley - Crowder - Melo -Sully

This Team is great.

+ 2016 Draft Pick from Nets - Trade? Simmons? Ingram?
+ Cap Space for a Max Contract

Contendor in 2016-2017.

21 Nov 2015 07:39:50
Lol problem is the Knicks have to agree, which they wouldn't.

21 Nov 2015 13:20:03
What would it take to get ryan anderson on the mavs.

21 Nov 2015 13:59:39
Where did that come from?

22 Nov 2015 05:53:56
Just imagine okafor an towns shipped for 4 first Felton harris Jenkins Villanova sala mesri seconds in return bring back Cavs 3rd string point guard with the dallas mavs would be beast 4seconds 19,20,21,22 don't fix what ain't broken huh it comes with bad season get ryan anderson behind Parsons or two first for pirzingous get ryan anderson for picks get david west for villanova still have 5 players, that shoot 3ssss 5 with anderson.

20 Nov 2015 09:51:47
Sixers: Young, Zeller, Mavs and Celtics picks

Celtics: Embiid and Wroten.

20 Nov 2015 14:51:25
I'm pretty sure celtics would say no but since you are a Celtics fan would you do Hibbert and the lakers 2016 second round pick for David lee (salary match) and the Celtics first rounder for this year?

I know people don't value Hibbert that much plus lakers and Celtics are rivals but I'm wondering what you would say.

20 Nov 2015 15:50:06
It's. Tough call from both sides. My opinion is Embiid has to be healthy for any trade to occur.

20 Nov 2015 16:13:55
I don't like it for Sixers. Why wait this long on embiid to give him up for a couple middle firsts. Embiid has elite potential. And he hasn't stepped on the court yet, but until he does I wouldn't trade him for any mediocre package.

20 Nov 2015 17:17:30
when will he step on the floor? Tre is right, Embiid has to be healthy for the Celtics to give up 2 picks.

20 Nov 2015 18:25:18
Hibbert is an even higher paid Kendrick Perkins. Does nothing but take up space.

20 Nov 2015 19:55:26
Hibbert is actually playing better than your Knicks center robin Lopez. Since you like to bring up stats Hibbert has a better on/off than Lopez more points rebounds blocks. I'm pretty sure he's not Kendrick Perkins. He will anchor down low and jump shot has improved.

20 Nov 2015 22:50:18
Hows the lakers record so far with your defensive anchor?

21 Nov 2015 01:25:09
You can't blame it on him solely. Players like Kobe Randle Russell Lou will swaggy and clarkson don't play defense letting teams score a lot.

21 Nov 2015 01:27:42
Plus we are talking about Hibbert not team record. He's not going to block 100 shots per game for you and isn't a franchise player so why bring up the record?

19 Nov 2015 23:48:06
Celtics: Gay and WCS

Kings: Lee, Young, Zeller, Celtics and Mavs first this year.

20 Nov 2015 05:48:19
Celtics are doing good. If they're going to do a trade don't trade for Gay.

19 Nov 2015 20:34:49
If Mavs become and stay health they are a very good Team. Noah would help to go back to the top! Chicago may not resign Noah in the summer, they have 4 other Player and Portis will follow on Noah in the future and adding a good future draft player. Dallas will love the Noahs defense, passing and scoring at the rim.

-Future 1st

-Future 2nd.

19 Nov 2015 22:04:30
I told you Pizza.

19 Nov 2015 23:17:27
I'd say congratulations, but eh, its all he can say.

Well, that and terrible attempts at insults using puns ;)

17 Nov 2015 16:05:53
OKC Get: Wesley Matthews

Mavs Get: Steve Novak, Anthony Morrow, Steven Adams, Tony Wroten, OKC 2016 1st (via Philly), Charlotte 2016 2nd (via OKC), OKC 2020 1st (via OKC)

76ers Get: Dion Waiters.

17 Nov 2015 17:00:10
Check out the stats of Wroten and Waiters. They're very close. Plus Wroten comes at half the cost, can play the PG position, and is less than 20% of the headache. Do the Sixers want that? And do they need to throw in a 1st rounder as a trade kicker?

17 Nov 2015 17:33:53
While I agree, Waiters is definitely not worth a first. I would use caution in "looking at the stats"

Wroten plays for a horrendous team (inflated stats) . He shoots at a worse percentage. Is a horrible 3 point shooter but shoots it almost 5 times a game. Is a very poor free throw shooter. And he is NOT what you want at pg. He turns the ball over at an astounding rate. He led the league last year in TO/48. He's just another d-leaguer that is getting minutes because someone has to get minutes for the sixers.

The sixers will not trade for Waitors. If they decide to sign him to an offer sheet in the off season, that's their problem. But that is the only way he will be coming to Philly.

17 Nov 2015 22:20:42
Wroten is a 22 year old SG that averaged 17 ppg last year. He was forced to play some PG also which accounts for many of his negative ball handling stats. Referring to him as a D-leaguer is an exaggeration. On a better team he would not have the responsibility of forcing the offense, would probably average less and be more efficient.

18 Nov 2015 00:32:16
He averaged 17 a game, while playing only 30 games. If you focus entirely on the 17 a game, sure, he's ok. Even if it was for one of the worst teams in the league.

However, if you actually look at all the stats, he is terribly inefficient.

His numbers last year.26% from 3, 66% from ft, 40% fg, highest amount of turnovers per 48 in the league. He only played for the first half of the season. The primary pg was Michael Carter Williams. His turnovers coincide with his career numbers. Referring to him as a d-leaguer is not an exaggeration. If it was a decent team, those numbers would either wind him up at the end of the bench, or the d-league. The NBA prioritizes possessions. They want guards that can shoot the 3. Not volume shooters at very low percentages. There is a reason that he is the sixers top scorer last year and they were awful.

Perhaps he can improve, but he's going on his 4th year, the numbers are the exact same, just more of it. And he just doesn't hold much worth for any other team.

18 Nov 2015 11:41:02
You're right. He's a d- leaguer and the sixers should release him.

18 Nov 2015 12:31:08
Well, I'm glad you at least see the reasoning. But I would say hold off on that until the sixers have even 2 guards that are nba caliber on their roster. But yes, if the sixers ever develop into a decent team, the glaring weakness is the guard play. Wroten is the peak of that weakness. Just glad you realized this as well.

18 Nov 2015 12:41:09
No. If he's going to be released he should go now or sent to the team's D-league affiliate and not take time from other players. He'll never develop. He's 22 and if he hasn't developed by now, he won't. He's dead to me.

18 Nov 2015 14:17:19
Agreed again. Bit extreme. But yup. Trend is if you don't make steps by the completion of the third year, typically won't. About time you caught on! Seemed like good potential, just never improved. Oh well, you win some you lose some. At least okafor and Noel seem not awful.

17 Nov 2015 02:30:09
Deadline deal

Thunder get Wesley Mathews and Dwight Powell

Mavs get Steven Adams, Dion Waiters, and Steve Novak.

16 Nov 2015 16:17:59
Mavericks Trade- Raymond Felton

Pelicans Trade- Quincy Pondexter

Mavericks desperately need a small forward after Chandler Parsons they don't have a single one. Pondexter is a good shooter and a decent defender.

Pelicans get a guard to help plug the holes with everyone injured. Even when everyone gets back Felton can get some decent minutes off of the bench.

15 Nov 2015 12:44:45

MIA get Raymond Felton, Dwight Powell and some fillers

DAL get Chris Andersen and Josh McRoberts

MIA get back ups, Felton has been playing fine and DAL needs big men.

15 Nov 2015 18:51:35
If you want Powell you can Keep Anderson and you have to put in Whiteside.

15 Nov 2015 22:00:40
Powell is worth whiteside drainer?!? The answe there is no.

28 Nov 2015 23:09:58
Dallas an miami
Powell an Anderson is. throw in felton an a future second to miami for Winslow an Whiteside mavs might throw i sala mejri evans
Deron jj?
Matthews Harris Jenkins
Parsons Winslow Anderson
Dirk Villanova pachulia
Whiteside mcgee
Let Villanova walk in freeagentcy 3spots left.

14 Nov 2015 03:25:52
Pacers Hawks Mavs

Mavs send Harris and Felton plus 2rd 2016 to Pacers.
Mavs get Splitter
Hawks send Bazemore and Sefolosha to Pacers plus from hawks and 1rd 2016
Hawks get Paul George.

14 Nov 2015 04:24:44
You have to be joking right? Hawks get a great 2 way all star player in George for a late first bazemore and sefalosha? Hell no pacers say.

14 Nov 2015 04:27:44
Thabo, Bazemore, and a mid to late 20s 1st rd pick for PG13? I'm not missing anything right?

I didn't even look it up because this is one of the worst trades I've seen in here, but even if the Pacer's GM wanted to get ran out of Indy with torches and pitchforks, this would not work financially.

14 Nov 2015 05:07:50
what a crazy hawks fan. you have to give up atleast Millsap and Teague to get PG.

12 Nov 2015 18:24:28
Celtics trade: Lee, Young 2016 Nets Pick and 2016 Mavs Pick

Kings trade: Boogie and Mclemore


12 Nov 2015 19:57:48
I agree, boogie is destined to be a Celtic. I just think it will take more then this offer to get the best big in the league at only 24 yrs old.

12 Nov 2015 21:40:19
Best big in the league? ! ? ! No, just no. Big generally means PF or C right? Cousins barely breaks the top 10 bigs.

Probably not enough though, need a young player as well.

13 Nov 2015 00:33:52
He is the best center in the league, based off performance currently and if you can build around him because of his age.

What bigs do you have ahead of him? Even if you extend it to PFs. I'd love to hear the 10 players you believe are better than Cousins.

13 Nov 2015 00:42:38
If you extend it to pf, I have Anthony Davis. that's the only one clearly ahead. And he is absolutely a pf, not a center. I guess you can try and make an argument for Blake Griffen (but he doesn't rebound aggressively and has shotty defense) or Andre Drummond (he would only be better based off the 8 game sample size so far this year, not based off any years prior) .

But again, as far as best centers in the league. I'd go with Cousins all day. Drummond has a hot start but will come back to perhaps 16 and 13, which is great. It would be his best year. But seeing as last year Cousins was 24/13/3.5.I'd give him the clear edge.

13 Nov 2015 01:54:55
Before the debate was gasol and cousins now I think cousins has overtook him and is gasol is on the decline. Like pizza said drummond has played good but in only 8 games. After that you have whiteside who is good but not boogie level players like al Jefferson etc but cousins takes my vote for best big man or at least center.

17 Nov 2015 04:30:33
You are high if you think Cousins is not top 5 big.

12 Nov 2015 12:33:01

NYK get: Joakim Noah (exp) and Mike Dunleavy

Pg. Grant/Calderon
Sg. Dunleavy/Galloway
Sf. Carmelo/Early
Pf. Porzingis/Williams
C. Noah/OQuinn

DAL get: Robin Lopez

Pg. Williams
Sg. Matthews
Sf. Parsons
Pf. Dirk
C. Noah

CHI get: Zaza Pachulia, Aaron Afflalo, and 2016 1st DP DAL

Pg. Rose/Brooks
Sg. Afflalo
Sf. Butler/Snell
Pf. Mirotic/Portis
C. Gasol/Gibson/Pachulia.

12 Nov 2015 13:34:07
Why would New York do this? And Dallas's 2016 1st goes to Boston.

12 Nov 2015 16:04:19
I don't like Lopez contract

12 Nov 2015 10:48:53
What is the difference between LAC and MAVS? LAC have their entire roster and a common preseason and traingings camp. MAVS still have two started rested and not played a trainings camp.

I like the Team and the energy. Maybe they will not Play like that every night, but in certain nights it will be funny.

And wait till Dec, wenn Noah joins. You never now.

Pachulia, Felton, future 1st
Noah, Moore, future 2nd

Every Pizza is going cold if such a team will run.

12 Nov 2015 10:56:08
Um dude, we got it. Nothing against your idea, but posting it again and again doesn't make the trade more probable.

12 Nov 2015 11:53:11
Again? This is getting really old.

12 Nov 2015 12:25:43
Dallas owes Boston a 1st already. Might be hard to part with another.

16 Nov 2015 15:09:33
maybe the difference is zaza will not be a difference maker in too many games. dirk isn't a good rebounder or play maker for others. dwill cannot be trusted to stay healthy or produce at the level he did in utah. parsons has never had all star production to where he would earn that max contract. matthews is coming off of achilles surgery, which is never easy.

compared to a team with 2 all stars in the starting lineup, the leagues leading rebounder who was 3rd in shots blocked last season, a knock down 3 shooter, and well paul pierce is self explanatory. we can also factor in the bench in which wes johnson started on the lakers last year, rivers is playing like he did in the playoffs last year, lance stephenson is making plays like he did in indiana even though he is not getting the number, jamal crawford is always in talks for 6th man of the year, and josh smith can start on most teams in the league at the 4 spot.

11 Nov 2015 10:49:15
Celtics Plan for Banner 18

Trade 1: C's - Kings

Bos gets: Cousins and Mclemore

Sac gets: Lee, Rozier - Nets 2016 Pick and 2 2nd Rounders

Trade 2: C's - Pacers

Bos gets: Paul George, Budinger

Ind gets: Smart, Olynyk, Young - 2016 Mavs Pick and 2017 Nets Pick

Free Agency:

Sign: Conley, Sully and zeller ( extension), amir johnson ( lower contract), Gerald Green, Perkins and draft pick

Team 2016/2017

pg: conley/thomas/ draft pick (celtics 2016)
sg: bradley/ hunter/ mclemore
sf: george/ crowder/ green
pf: sully/ johnson/mickey
c: cousins/ zeller/perkins

This Team is a contender. And it's a not that unrealistic. #believeindannyainge.

11 Nov 2015 12:52:21
Celtics fan here as well. Only the second trade (for Paul George) makes sense.

The first one is a gross overpay for a head case of epic proportions. The Nets picks are untoucheable. We could be talking about back to back (to back) #1 overrall picks.

Besides, T-Roze is the PG of the future for the Cs. He has a very high ceiling and a crazy motor. As fast as John Wall and has solid shooting mechanics, which means his FG and 3pt FG % should rise soon. He may become the steal of the 2015 NBA draft.

11 Nov 2015 14:24:17
Rozier is not a star in the future. We have better players with a better future. Boogie is a superstar with the right coach. a beast. no better player than boogie in the draft 2016.

11 Nov 2015 15:20:42
You had me until you said no one in the 2016 draft will be as good as cousins. Cousins is a good player. He's a top 30 player, but I don't think he's a special player, not one that can lead a team to a championship. There are a couple of guys (specifically Simmons) that could be on another level.

11 Nov 2015 17:03:52
George will cost you a ton more.

11 Nov 2015 18:19:27
I think Cousins just needs the right coach - brad stevens. And his stats are very good. he needs the right guys around him. trust me. he will be a superstar in boston.

11 Nov 2015 22:18:36
Honestly, cousins makes me think of Rudy Gay at the center position. Great at scoring, great at getting his, but doesn't work very hard and isn't making anyone better.

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