08 Mar 2018 14:30:02
With what we know now, should the Twolves have just traded Wiggins straight up for Butler (assuming the rumors were true and Chicago was willing to do that)?

1.) 08 Mar 2018
08 Mar 2018 15:51:21
I still believe Wiggins is going to be an all star, but the tandem Markannen-KAT would have been awesome.

Maybe no deal would have been better for Minny

2.) 08 Mar 2018
08 Mar 2018 15:55:32
100%. I think I would have done that in the moment too. Wiggins shows flashes, and he's a crazy athlete, but he's proven absolutely nothing to me. At this point, I think they're still banking on him because they took him number 1, but if you look at that draft, there's probably 15 or so guys I would take over both him and Parker at this point. Lavine and Dunn may never wind up being more than solid role players, and who knows who they would have taken in the draft, but I don't know if Wiggins will wind up having a better career than any of the three.

3.) 08 Mar 2018
08 Mar 2018 16:31:35
Wiggins might be frustrating and inconsistent, but he’s still a really good player. There’s no possible way that 15 guys in that draft are better than him. He’s still a 20 ppg scorer. Outside of Embiid (who I wouldn’t want over Wiggins due to his health) and Jokic, I’m not sure anyone else in that draft is more desirable than Wiggins.

That said, yeah, if minny has the option to swap what they traded with Wiggins, I think they’d do it.

4.) 08 Mar 2018
08 Mar 2018 16:38:27
I probably fall in the middle of where you two are. The guy is a good scorer and has all the tools to get better. I don't think it's likely he turns into a perennial allstar, but he's proven he can put up big scoring numbers so an allstar appearance at some point wouldn't be crazy, but right now he's a 3rd option, that doesn't shoot the 3 well, pass well, rebound at a high level, and he's an awful defender. It feels like a healthy Lavine could have been that 3rd option more effectively given his shooting, ability to play some defense and ability to pass. Also, you'd have the option of using Lavine as a combo guard off the bench and I don't think Lavine will get the max this year. Dunn has the potential to be a solid starting pg and is a good back up at the minimum. Theoretically, if they took Markannen, he has allstar potential and if they go with one of the pgs that went right after him or if they hit a home run and reached for Mitchell, you end up with another good player. I think anyway you slice it, if they traded Wiggins, you end up with a more depth and a cheaper team.

5.) 09 Mar 2018
09 Mar 2018 00:20:29
Wiggins gets paid starting next season. Criticism can start when he's earning the pay. Right now he's underpaid, and earning his keep. Teague, and Butler are teaching Wigs, and KAT how to win. 2-3 more seasons MIN will still be the better team.

6.) 09 Mar 2018
09 Mar 2018 13:56:33
Jorga, the question wasn't if Wiggins has lived up to his current salary. It's would the Timberwolves be better off trading Wiggins instead of the package that they sent out for Butler.

7.) 09 Mar 2018
09 Mar 2018 14:19:37
2-3 more seasons MIN is still the better team didn't answer that for you, and you are just hung up on my criticism of your criticism?

8.) 09 Mar 2018
09 Mar 2018 14:37:49
I'm not saying that I would definitively put 15 above him from that draft, but there are around that many that I would have to actually think about it long and hard. To me, that's not a guy I'm wanting to take #1, or #2 for that matter with Parker. The only guys who are a definite above him are Embiid, Capela and Jocic. But I would have solid conversation about Gordon, Smart, Randle, Saric, LaVine, Nurkic, Hood, and Dinwiddie. I think he would beat out solid guys like Warren, Ennis, Harris, Grant, Robinson and Powell.

Looking back on it now, this was a really solid depth draft, even if only one of the "elite" guys has really blossomed into anything special, with two dark horse big men blowing up as well.