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02 Jun 2017 17:15:11
Blazers trade:
Moe Harkless
Pick #20

Knicks trade:
Willy Hernangomez.

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1.) 02 Jun 2017 17:58:07
Don't think Hernangomez is worth this much and although Blazers need cap relief Harkless' contract isn't that bad (also Blazers don't really need a center) .


2.) 02 Jun 2017 18:32:17
The blazers desperately need a backup center Jaw.

I do agree it's a bit of an overpay by Portland, but it does cut salary and bring a decent young player back. If they could then unload Meyers Leonard, they'd be out of luxury tax for one year.


3.) 03 Jun 2017 00:00:10
Problem is that Harkless is not a true salary dump. His salary is moderate and at 24 years old he has big upside value. Portland needs to dump Turner, Leonard, and Crabbe in that order of horrible value contracts. Portland needs an impact 3/ 4 before they need a back up center. This deal doesn't address either.


 

 

15 Feb 2017 20:20:42
Blazers receive Drummond

Pistons receive McCollum, Stauskas, and Portland's 2017 first (top 5 protected)

76ers receive Crabbe and Memphis 2017 first (from Portland)

Blazers get a star big.
Detroit gets a solid return for Drummond. McCollum can play beside Jackson, or they can look to move Jackson.
Phili gets a shooter that they need and a first for basically nothing but the use of cap room.

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1.) 15 Feb 2017 20:29:57
How does Philly get Crabbe and a 1st rd pick for Stauskus?


2.) 15 Feb 2017 20:35:53
It's basically a salary dump by Portland NewLakerDynasty. With McCollum's extension, the contracts are hard to line up. He counts as 20 million to Detroit, but only 3 million for Portland.

You could certainly take the first out and I think it would be fair as well, I just didn't want to hear TreGib complain about crabbe again.


3.) 15 Feb 2017 21:11:15
Haha, DET agrees to this in record setting speed.


4.) 15 Feb 2017 22:53:13
I went back and forth on the picks quite a bit. Maybe an overpay for Portland, but they desperately need a real big.

Certainly a lot of variation you could do. Crabbe could be replaced with Meyers Leonard and Ezeli (who is non-guaranteed next year) . I might prefer that, because losing McCollum and Crabbe leaves a big hole in portlands wing shooting.


5.) 15 Feb 2017 23:38:26
Confused on how philly get crabbe and a first? Did you forget to include okafor to pistons?


6.) 15 Feb 2017 23:39:29
Philly doesn't need a shooter as bad as people think. 76ers have a couple good shooting forwards.


7.) 16 Feb 2017 01:12:37
Honestly I don't see Portland giving up McCollum and 1st's for a big until they see what they have in Nurkic. Also I hate seeing Crabbe to Philly. I'd rather stick with Stauskas. He's just as productive and cheaper. Crabbe is a bench player making starter money. That just handcuff's the Philly rebuild. Hate this trade.


 

 

16 Jan 2017 03:51:52
Blazers trade:

Mo Harkless
Ed Davis
Festus Ezeli
Portland's 2017 first, top 5 protected

Nets trade:

Brook Lopez
Joe Harris
Quincy Acy
(Or replace those two for someone else wth a small contract)

Bmiller66

1.) 16 Jan 2017 13:53:05
Nets don't get enough. Someone has to give up at least one quality young asset. Harkless is simply not enough. And the first too late to be impactful.


 

 

02 Jan 2017 18:35:22
Damian Lillard for Paul George

It wouldn't happen, teams don't swap stars often, but there's some sense there. Portland balances their roster. Indy moves a star that's getting a bit disgruntled for one locked in a bit longer.

Bmiller66

1.) 02 Jan 2017 20:12:25
No there's no sense, Portland wouldn't have a point guard.


2.) 02 Jan 2017 20:37:31
McCollum is a point guard. He's started there every game Lillard has missed the last two years. Just because he starts at SG doesn't mean he's not a more natural point.


3.) 03 Jan 2017 01:05:50
Value wise okay I can see it. But why on earth would that happen.


 

 

 

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11 Dec 2017 05:32:41
Portland traded the Cavs 2018 pick that they owned for the Cavs 2017 pick. It was never portlands own pick.

Nurkic is also 23. Foul trouble is common in young bigs, that doesn’t mean they should give him away, especially if they’re rebuilding. You don’t trade talented young bigs to rebuild.

I’m not completely against moving Lillard (ok, I kind of am), but not for this return. How does this return chance portland’s Future? They get a worse PG on a shorter contract with injuries? They get useless vets? If they move Lillard they’d want an elite prospect and a high end pick. Maybe something like Fultz, Saric, and 2 firsts from Phili.

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11 Dec 2017 02:03:20
Portland does not owe Cleveland a pick. Not sure where you’re getting that from, but Portland owns all of their firsts moving forward right now.

Also, Lillard is a top 20 player locked in for the next 4 years. Trading him is incredibly easy if the want. He has immense value.

And for Nurkic shortcomings, he’s an elite defender and a decent offensive player and still on his rookie deal. Again, he has big value.

You undervalue both of those guys a lot.

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10 Dec 2017 20:53:13
Have you watched Lillard this year Rkenne? He’s a plus defender. Even at his worst, Thomas was worse. But now, Lillard is a solid defender.

Also, Lillard is on a better contract than Thomas, so his value is unquestionably higher. Portland passes without question, they could get much more for Lillard.

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10 Dec 2017 20:50:36
The original deal is probably fair value for Cousins, and one I might gamble on (though, I hate Cousins, so I personally would pass on him overall, but that’s not the point) .

McCollum is waaaaaay more valuable than rondo. He’s more valuable than Cousins (because of contracts) . I wouldn’t offer either of portlands guards unless AD was involved (which he’s too valuable to do) .

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10 Dec 2017 19:50:57
Portland gets completely screwed. I’m not sure I’d give up just Nurkic for that package, let along Lillard. Thomas is on an expiring deal and has a major injury. Shumpert has basically no value considering his contract. Just a horrible return.

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