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05 Jan 2018 21:09:03
76ers/Lakers

Sixers need some bench scoring and have cap space. Lakers need to unload salary

Sixers get: Jordan Clarkson
Lakers get: Amir Johnson

Sixers get a quality scorer off the bench. Sixers still have enough cap room to make a play at one max player in the off-season . Lakers cut 12.5 million in salary next year and 13.5 mill the following year. This helps Lakers in their pursuit of the FA big fishes. Win/Win???

Jvoug1

1.) 05 Jan 2018 21:11:17
Amir Johnson is an 11 million expiring contract. Clarkson makes 11.5 this year
Perfect salary match.


2.) 05 Jan 2018 21:15:39
I think you would have to throw in a protects future first for this to make sense for the Lakers.


3.) 05 Jan 2018 21:44:57
Rkenne: I think a future 2nd rounder will do it. Not going to tie up a future first time make this deal.


4.) 05 Jan 2018 23:48:03
I could see that over the summer if any of the Lebron etc. rumors come true (a 2nd for Clarkson straight up), but I think they hold out for a decent asset until they would actually have to a move. It's not like he would be overly hard to move. He's still young and on a contract that isn't terrible considering his production.


5.) 05 Jan 2018 23:52:41
Lakers will pass. Clarkson is an asset. They clearly will get more than Amir Johnson and a relatively worthless second.


6.) 06 Jan 2018 01:41:23
The Lakers aren’t going to see Clarkson as an asset in July when they’re trying to sign 2 Max free agents and Clarkson’s salary is holding that back.


7.) 06 Jan 2018 09:45:53
Can't see the Lakers doing that. They advertised wanting picks, and are willing to wait just before draft, after the season. Definitely want a first for Clarkson. Especially if they have to pay A. Johnson the rest of the season. I like Bayless, he isn't super expensive or anything, why do PHI fans despise him?


8.) 06 Jan 2018 13:28:11
Angels, I just don't think they have to do it now. We've seen teams make these kind of signings and move players once they get a commitment from someone. I think they're trying to trade him now while they still have some leverage and can get something out of him. I think he has some real value and if it were only a 2nd and an expiring contract/ capspace that was needed to get him, he would already be gone.


9.) 06 Jan 2018 13:30:49
Jorgawood: watching Bayless attempt to play defense is painful. He makes Oakfor look like Bill Russell. And I don't think Lakers get a first for clarkson. How many teams have expiring contracts, cap space for clarkson, a willingness to use that cap on clarkson? Most teams with late first round picks are already cap strapped. And I don't see any of the teams under the cap willing to give up a high to mid first for clarkson If you look at all the variables, the market for clarkson is small.


10.) 06 Jan 2018 15:21:14
Clarkson has a good contract, and Kuzma, Nance, and Randle at PF as of now. Randle for Amir would work, but why? Salaries don't match either of course. Can't see the rush, or need to trade for a guy they more than likely aren't going to keep, or need. The Lakers said they really didn't have plans on trading Clarkson until seasons end because they have had good offers for him, and are confident they can shed his salary in a flash if needed. Clarkson in a sign-and trade is a good piece too. Not sure of his exact value, but I don't think a late 1st, whether future, or this season is out of the question. Depends on what players would be involved if any. Traded Russell, and Mozgov for Lopez, and Kuzma.


11.) 06 Jan 2018 18:04:00
Jorgawood : the Russell and mozgov for Lopez and pick 27 ( great selection on kuzma ) was a steal of the year deal. They all don't and won't be that lopsided. Almost any trade compared to that one looks bad. I see your point, but I just hear too many rumors of Lakers trying to dump salary (ie clarkson, randle, and of course deng) at the trade deadline.


12.) 06 Jan 2018 19:28:02
Kuzma was luckier than your last 100, bet on 00 on a roulette wheel. True. I think if they could package him to rid themselves of Deng you will see a deadline move. Even throw in a pick. Making moves with Clarkson alone, and not getting an asset, just to shed salary before the deadline almost guarantee's their pick 2-5 goes to BOS. I think everyone knows that's got to be on the Lakers minds. Building up BOS with L. A. Assets is a real stinger for L. A. It's personal. Ainge/ Magic Still a little competitive I'd guess. Oh yeah, Bayless is terrible on D. For sure.


13.) 06 Jan 2018 20:01:11
Or. if Lakers pick conveys at #1, they don't help the celtics at all. Sixers keep it. Currently we are about halfway through the regular season, and the Lakers lead the NBA in losses. If they unload more marginal talent at the deadline to clear up cap for next year, that will help them keep that lofty loss distinction. I'm all in.


14.) 06 Jan 2018 20:10:38
Jorgawood : Do yourself a favor and watch the Danny Ainge Sedale Threatt clip on youtube.


15.) 06 Jan 2018 21:47:58
I apologize. Atlanta has 1 more loss then Lakers. I just became a hawks fan.


16.) 16 Jan 2018 03:02:56
Absolutely no to wasting max cap space on Jordan freaking Clarkson.


 

 

24 Oct 2017 22:30:28
Suns/Sixers

According to gm's, suns asking price for bledsoe is going to uave to come down considerably. Reports say the Knicks " laughed" at the suns asking of ntlikna and hernangomez for bledsoe. Amd that's not a whole ton of talent. Ntlikna has poyential, and hernangomez iz a nice backup. I think the sixers, with fultz's shoulder injury seeming more serious the initially thought, can put together a package of young players for bledsoe

This package may have not been enough a week ago, but may be now...
SUNS get: Okafor, Luwawa-Cab, Nets 2nd in 2018 and knicks 2nd in 2018 (sixers own both picks. Should both be in the 30-35 range).
SIXERS get: Bledsoe

Jvoug1

1.) 25 Oct 2017 00:30:39
And since philly is 15mill below the cap, they can take back blesoes 14mill and only send the suns 6.5 mill in return (okafor and luwawa-cab combine salary), clearing more cap space for the rebuilding suns. Actually, luwawa-cab, stauskas, anderson, and McConnell would all be interchangable in this trade.


2.) 25 Oct 2017 01:32:00
I think it all depends if they think Okafor can fit their scheme. Unless a team is willing to slow it down atleast in spurts, can Okafor ever be an effective player for them?


3.) 25 Oct 2017 02:17:03
Just because the Knicks laughed at the proposed deal, doesn't mean the Suns won't get what they want for Bledsoe. They will definitely get a 1st Rd pick and probably some young players.


4.) 25 Oct 2017 02:51:25
No matter what. PHX wants to get a young PG as part of the return for Bledsoe.


5.) 25 Oct 2017 03:53:54
id be hesitant to drop bledsoe into the simmons+fultz pg experiment. maybe bleds and simmons can mesh offensively with fultz coming off the bench, but i don't love this for the process.
and i can understand why the knicks turned that down, objectively its a good trade for them, but they obviously aren't trying to win now so bleds doesn’t really make sense for them. plus they are crazy high on ntilikina, they did draft him 8th.


6.) 25 Oct 2017 13:42:28
If the Knicks, who are apparently rebuilding, deal one or both of Willy and Frank for Bledsoe, I will lose my mind.


 

 

24 Sep 2017 19:55:50
76ers/Celtics

Boston has Horford and Baynes, and that's about it up front. No depth. Through 103 games, Okafor has averaged 15 points and 6 rebounds in 26 minutes a game. And he's just 21yrs old. Granted he struggles immensely on D, but if horford is off, in foul trouble, or injured, who scores inside for boston????
Sixers have too many young centers in Embiid, Holmes, and Okafor. Celtics have potentially 4 #1 picks in 2019.


Sixers get: worst of Kings, Grizz, Clips or Celtics 1st rd pick in 2019.
Boston gets: Okafor

Jvoug1

1.) 24 Sep 2017 21:32:54
Anthony Davis unlikely to be made available, but Celtics need to keep their No. 1s in case the Pelicans panic.
That's not saying Okafor isn't worth a late first, just that the Celtics need to hang on to as many assets as possible for a bigger fish.


2.) 25 Sep 2017 06:56:09
If Davis is made available, Okafor could be flipped to NO at the same value as a late first, so I don't think this would hurt Boston at all. I like the trade, and I think Horford is the kind of guy that can mask some of Okafor's issues decently.


3.) 25 Sep 2017 14:03:37
I agree with BMiller that Okafor could be the same value as the worst of all those picks, especially if Stevens is able to pull his best from him, and I also agree that they should only send the worst of the picks.

The issue, however, then becomes salary. Okafor is making just under $5 million. Who goes with the pick to make that salary work? You've got four options right now, with Baynes becoming a fifth in December when he's eligible to be traded. Those four guys are Tatum, Morris, Brown and Smart. I don't think Okafor is worth any of them straight up, let alone with a pick involved.


 

 

23 Sep 2017 18:41:47
Okc/knicks

Melo for kanter, mcbuckets, and a second rounder next year. Wow. Bad trade for knicks. Horrible return.

Jvoug1

1.) 23 Sep 2017 19:19:04
I figured they would atleast get a protected first. They should have bought out Melo. Kanter's contract is terrible and McDermott and are fairly irrelevant. I guess Supercollider was overestimating Melo's value this whole time.


2.) 23 Sep 2017 20:28:21
Two marginal players and a second. About right for Anthony. Thunder on the hook for $56 million over next two years. Not much left over for anyone else if Westbrook signs supermax deal.


3.) 24 Sep 2017 02:00:17
they do have pg’s bird rights. but yeah, no money for role players.


 

 

17 Sep 2017 15:05:25
76ers/Cavs

Sixers get:Frye,Cavs own 2018 1st
Cavs get:Holmes,Rockets 2018 2nd via 76ers.

Sixers could use Fryes big man shooting off bench. Gain late 1st rd pick.

Cavs could use Holmes as back up for Thompson and not lose a step(Holmes may actually be the better player here), and save 6 million in salary against the cap(which probably equates to a $15mill total savings).

Jvoug1

1.) 17 Sep 2017 15:13:31
Frye is a non-rotation player even in Philly and the Cavs' No. 1 is not worth much.
Holmes is a legit player who would cost more than what Cleveland is giving up.


2.) 18 Sep 2017 00:48:56
Supercollider: could the celtics use Holmes in their big man rotation? What would the boys from beantown be willing to give up for him in a fair deal? Great thing about Holmes contract is its for 1.4 this year and a team option 1.6 for the following year. Awesome for his production and potential.


3.) 18 Sep 2017 04:10:33
Holmes is a solid player, but I think Frye would be in Philly's rotation Collider. I think it all depends on how comfortable Philly is with Embiids healthy. If they aren't (speaking more long term) they need to keep Holmes as insurance. If they are, they might want to try and sell high on Holmes, who won't be playing a ton of minutes this year, since they probably won't want to pay him in 2 years. He could be looking at 10+ million dollars. Maybe out could switch the direction the 2nd is going though. I like it for the Cavs.


4.) 18 Sep 2017 10:29:53
Voug - After Fultz/ Tatum it's unlikely Boston and Philly would make another big trade. Holmes has great potential, but he has yet to play in a big game so his projected 36-minute stats (17 ppg, 1.9 blocks) might be empty calories. As to compensation, Boston's roster now has players who would be too much of an overpay plus players who wouldn't be enough to get Holmes. Suppose maybe Rozier would be somewhat equal value, but that would thin out a backcourt that already could use a little more depth. Plus, moving Holmes would force Philly to give minutes to Okafor, so it might be a trade that would hurt both teams.


5.) 18 Sep 2017 21:06:10
Sixers traded up to #25 this year to draft 7'1" Pasecniks from Latvia. he's the long term back up for Embiid. Amir Johnson gives immediate help inside to okafor if embiid gets hurt again. Holmes value is very high at the moment. Time to sell. Who needs a young, high upside bigman on a bargain basement contract for the next 2 years? Any trade ideas?


 

 

 

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16 Feb 2018 00:27:25
Not a bad trade.
Gordon is definitely a better player then Saric, but not "enough better" to also include a lottery pick this year in a very strong draft. I think the chemistry with Saric works great in philly. he's 23, on a bargain basement contract, is putting up 15 pts and 7 rebs a game, and is shooting 39% from 3pt. Again, I really like Gordon, but not the move for the sixers.

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28 Jan 2018 17:49:53
Hard pass from Sixers. No way do they take on Noahs contract and destroy their cap space for" bench scoring insurance ". Just a terrible business move no matter what angle you look at it from.

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21 Jan 2018 15:03:52
Why would the knicks do this? Powell is guaranteed @42 million over the next four years. And he's just an average rotation guy. I don't think knicks would want to lock that cap flexibility up on Powell with so much already owed to Noah. Knicks pass.

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20 Jan 2018 13:30:10
Seems like a fair trade.

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11 Jan 2018 05:13:30
Terrible deal for clips. Great deal for cavs. Go figure.

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