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29 May 2017 19:39:24
Sixers, Knicks

Sixers give #3 (swap), 2 2nd rounders, our own 18' and 20' 1st rounders, Saric, Okafor

Knicks give #8 (swap), Porzingis, Noah

The knicks gets a much better pick for this year, and multiple other picks for the next couple years. A young center with at least one above average skill, and 2 years left on his rookie deal, who needs a change of scenery. A replacement for porzingis who doesn't have as much raw talent, but still is young and will be a good player in the nba. But best of all for the knicks is we take joakim noahs contract off their hands and frees up almost 20 mil in cap space. They can then trade Rose and Melo for w. e else then can get and start a full rebuild since every player in that building seems to be unhappy. Or if they can't get a return on melo that they feel happy with, use that cap space to get a player to play with melo, saric, and the 3rd pick. (jackson, tatum or fox)

For the sixers, the obvious is it gives us simmons, porzingis, and embiid. But this trade also rounds out the rest of our roster. Joakim noahs contract is a hard pill to swallow, but we can max both embiid and porzingis while having him on the roster and then simmons is up the same year noah is gone. His experience and hard working reputation at back up center would only help our roster. And well also be able to pick monk with the 8th pick this year (making a trade back up to 6 or 7 if neccessary) .
Leaving a roster of.

Simmons, Mcconnel
Bayless, Monk, Stauskus
Covington, TLC, Anderson
Porzingis, Holmes
Embiid, Noah

Plus we hold onto the lakers and kings picks, and have a dozen 2nd rounders the next couple years.

PhillyMike

1.) 30 May 2017 00:21:28
Knicks keep 8th.


 

 

17 Apr 2017 16:55:32
Sixers-Cavs

Sixers give McConnell, Okafor, 2 2nd rounders this year, and a 2020 1st rounder (OKC)

Cavs give Kevin Love

After what seems is going to be a dissappointing year for the Cavs, they won't have any cap space or draft picks to retool the lineup around Lebron and Kyrie. This trade frees up cap space while giving them a back up playmaker, and a scoring big off the bench. And okafors post game would be better utilized in the half court sets the Cavs run. Then they'll be able to use the 2nd rounders to look for talent at other positions, and cut them for no guaranteed money if they fail.

For the sixers, this trade gives them an established player who FAs might want to come play with. (Maybe he gets a gordon hayward to sign here) He also is a rebounding, transitional, stretch 4 who would fit perfect with our team. Out in transition we would have players such as simmons, saric, love and embiid who all like to initiate and then we draft guards who can shoot and play off ball in the draft. Hopefully we get the lakers pick.

PhillyMike

1.) 17 Apr 2017 17:25:56
This doesn't free up cap space for Cleveland, as they're way over the cap.

And this seems bad for Cleveland. I wouldn't give up an all star for that meager return.


2.) 17 Apr 2017 21:20:50
It would take significantly more to get Love. Dude is still an all-star and has significant value. Draft picks, especially ones in 2020 aren't attractive to a team like the Cavs and their cap situation is bad enough that moving Love doesn't really help especially when you aren't getting comparable talent in return.


3.) 18 Apr 2017 19:08:35
That's terrible for the Cavs. Unless Simmons, Embiid, or their current first is involved the Cavs would hang up the phone quick. The only piece they get in this trade that even interests them is Mcconell. The 2 2nds could be bought for cash, the first is to far out and might not even be high, and Okafor doesn't help the Cavs at all. The Cavs get significantly worse with this trade.


 

 

14 Feb 2017 00:23:33
PHI gives Okafor, Noel, Ersan, Stauskus, swap rights to BOS via Nets 17' pick (worst)
PHI gets Avery Bradley, Mirotic, swap rights for BOS via Nets 17' pick (best)

BOS gives Bradley, Brown, Olynyk, swap rights to PHI 17' pick (best), 2018 Nets pick, 2018 Celtics pick
BOS gets Butler, Noel, Ersan, swap rights for PHI 17' pick (worst)

CHI gives Butler, Mirotic
CHI gets Okafor, Brown, Olynyk, Stauskus, 2018 Nets pick, 2018 Celtics pick

I assume any holes in these rosters left by this trade will be addressed by that team in another trade.

BOS may have to give up another piece to make the salries work, but all in all Ainge gets great value back for what he gives up. He gets his two way star in Butler, young defensive big in Noel, veteran depth that can space the floor in Ersan, and gets to keep a top 5, top 6 pick in this years deep draft.

CHI gives up their best player, but he wants out of that situation anyways. They get back two young pieces to build around in Okafor and Jaylen Brown, two young depth players in Olynyk and Stauskus, and a chance to have 2 high draft picks in next years draft with their own and the Nets 18' pick. They could even get more for this year if they wanted to trade away Wade and Rondo.

PHI gets rid of their logjam at center while giving Okafor and Noel the chance to start for another team, which they both deserve. They gain a relatively young 3 and D player who pairs well with simmons and has playoff experience, and they get a better chance at getting this years number 1 overall, hopefully 2 at the worst.

Im assuming the standings stay as they are AND a team sneaks into the top 3 pushing the Lakers to positon 4, giving the Sixers 1 and 4, or 2 and 4.
I then draft either Fultz and Isaac, or Jackson and Isaac (I think i would prefer Fultz because of his killer instinct to score, but i wouldn't be mad at the defensive potential and overall play of Jackson) .

2018 lineup with Fultz.
Fultz, Bayless, McConnell
Bradley, Henderson
Simmons, Covington
Saric, Isaac, Mirotic
Embiid, Holmes, Long

2018 lineup with Jackson.
Bradley, Bayless, McConnell
Jackson, Henderson
Simmons, Covington
Saric, Isaac, Mirotic
Embiid, Holmes, Long

These lineups would offer tremendous flexibility as most of these players can defend 2, some 3 or 4 positions. Simmons would be your primary ball handler with secondary creators around him who can also space the floor, while Bradley would defend the other teams best perimeter player. and they all thrive in transition. This would be my favorite outcome for the Sixers at the deadline. Thoughts?

PhillyMike

1.) 14 Feb 2017 02:59:22
Chicago isn't going to give Butler up for that little and will most definitely want the 2017 Nets pick to just start convo. Although Boston may have interest in Noel and he'd be a good fit I don't see them giving up anything close to that for him due to his contract situation and lack of trade value around the league. They already have a stretch bigs in Jerkbo and Olynk so I don't see them wanting Ersan especially at that price.

I like the attempt at 76ers trying to use their pick to get the Nets pick (especially since Nets don't really need another point guard like Fultz or Ball) but I think there is a significant gap in value that can't be covered by what 76ers are giving up.


2.) 14 Feb 2017 04:16:28
Boston hangs up . Abruptly!


3.) 14 Feb 2017 15:55:27
I think that's about what the celtics should need to give up for butler, and to add noel to the return would make a lot of sense.

The bulls are the only team I could see saying no to this if they are looking for a more immediate return rather then the 2018 picks.


4.) 14 Feb 2017 16:24:06
No i think Boston says yes!


5.) 15 Feb 2017 00:14:23
Philly says hell yes. Boston says yeah sure. Chicago hangs up.


 

 

22 Jan 2017 18:43:49
Sixers trade okafor, holmes, and henderson to Celtics for avery bradley.

Gives the celtics a young, affordable, inside scoring threat, along with a good back up. Henderson can fill in for bradley, he does all the same things bradley does, just not as good. They could then use their more than likely number 1 overall on markelle fultz and they'll have the minutes to give him with bradley gone. This sets them up for this year and the future with two young pieces.

Assuming the lakers pick conveys this year, the sixers should get 2 picks in the top 6 between us, lakers and kings.

One of those picks should be high enough to get malik monk. The other pick can be anywhere from 1 to 5 so i would like to have markelle fultz, but whoever the top pg left is who we should get.

2017-18 roster

Starters - simmons, bradley, our 1st pick in 17 draft, illyasova, embiid
Bench - noel, covington, monk, saric, bayless, mcconnel, rodriguez

Good starters with a very solid bench.

PhillyMike

1.) 22 Jan 2017 19:41:15
That isn't close to enough to get you Bradley. Dude is balling this year. He was originally just a lockdown defender but has improved his confidence and ability on the offense end and know shoots over 40% from 3 and is C's 2nd leading scorer. He also is C's leading rebounder at 6ft 2 and he is only 26. With his contract up after next season C's would probably be willing to move him for the right price but I think they'd only package him for a star and not draft picks which is probably the most the 76ers would be willing to give.


2.) 22 Jan 2017 19:46:01
None of those 3 could start for celtics. OK4 plays no D


3.) 22 Jan 2017 20:11:33
PhillyMike: ill drive the three of them to the airport if boston says yes. Bradley is the perfect fit next to simmons. I just don't see anyway Aingr agrees to this.


 

 

18 Jan 2017 17:30:17
Bulls - Sixers

Bulls get okafor, holmes, sixers 1st round 17, and sixers 1st round 19

Sixers get jimmy butler, take robin lopez contract

Bulls get young center who's proven he can score.

PhillyMike

1.) 18 Jan 2017 19:02:32
Money doesn't work. Value is close but if sixers get butler mid season that pick is going to jump pretty quickly in to brim of the lottery. This would have to be a trade done on draft day. I also believe to get butler it will take the lakers pick instead of the sixers 2019 pick.

So okafor, Holmes sixers first this year and lakers first this year.

That be min I think bulls would consider.


2.) 18 Jan 2017 20:33:22
Money doesn't need to work, Sixers have the Cap Space to do this.

The part of the deal I don't like for the Sixers is taking on Robin's deal. I could see adding a team to this deal who needs a center and has a wing or PG it could spare instead.


 

 

 

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13 Feb 2017 12:19:39
PHI-BOS-CHI

PHI gives Okafor, Noel, Ersan, Stauskus, swap rights to BOS via Nets 17' pick (worst)
PHI gets Avery Bradley, Mirotic, swap rights for BOS via Nets 17' pick (best)

BOS gives Bradley, Brown, Olynyk, swap rights to PHI 17' pick (best), 2018 Nets pick, 2018 Celtics pick
BOS gets Butler, Noel, Ersan, swap rights for PHI 17' pick (worst)

CHI gives Butler, Mirotic
CHI gets Okafor, Brown, Olynyk, Stauskus, 2018 Nets pick, 2018 Celtics pick

I assume any holes in these rosters left by this trade will be addressed by that team in another trade.

BOS may have to give up another piece to make the salries work, but all in all Ainge gets great value back for what he gives up. He gets his two way star in Butler, young defensive big in Noel, veteran depth that can space the floor in Ersan, and gets to keep a top 5, top 6 pick in this years deep draft.

CHI gives up their best player, but he wants out of that situation anyways. They get back two young pieces to build around in Okafor and Jaylen Brown, two young depth players in Olynyk and Stauskus, and a chance to have 2 high draft picks in next years draft with their own and the Nets 18' pick. They could even get more for this year if they wanted to trade away Wade and Rondo.

PHI gets rid of their logjam at center while giving Okafor and Noel the chance to start for another team, which they both deserve. They gain a relatively young 3 and D player who pairs well with simmons and has playoff experience, and they get a better chance at getting this years number 1 overall, hopefully 2 at the worst.

Im assuming the standings stay as they are AND a team sneaks into the top 3 pushing the Lakers to positon 4, giving the Sixers 1 and 4, or 2 and 4.
I then draft either Fultz and Isaac, or Jackson and Isaac (I think i would prefer Fultz because of his killer instinct to score, but i wouldn't be mad at the defensive potential and overall play of Jackson) .

2018 lineup with Fultz.
Fultz, Bayless, McConnell
Bradley, Henderson
Simmons, Covington
Saric, Isaac, Mirotic
Embiid, Holmes, Long

2018 lineup with Jackson.
Bradley, Bayless, McConnell
Jackson, Henderson
Simmons, Covington
Saric, Isaac, Mirotic
Embiid, Holmes, Long

These lineups would offer tremendous flexibility as most of these players can defend 2, some 3 or 4 positions. Simmons would be your primary ball handler with secondary creators around him who can also space the floor, while Bradley would defend the other teams best perimeter player. and they all thrive in transition.

PhillyMike

1.) 15 Feb 2017 16:39:44
Wrong butler loves Chicago stop trying the celtics would have to put up a huge ransom for butler you got to trade something to get something its like saying trade kd for bobby portis pretty much what celtics trying to do.


 

 

13 Jan 2017 18:07:54
Starters. Fultz, Russel, simmons, Illyasova, and embiid.

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11 Jun 2016 18:05:32
Murray (1 or 2), covington (3 or 4), saric, (3 or 4), simmons (3, 4, or 5), embiid (4 or 5), grant okafor can be moved after we know what embiid will be.

PhillyMike

1.) 12 Jun 2016 03:04:53
Why move okafor when embiid has trouble staying healthy.


 

 

 

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01 Mar 2017 23:39:27
Yea they didn't want to let go of ingram for cousins. and then 2 days later, the people who made that decision got fired. People get hurt in sports all the time, and it can happen at any time. i'm tired of hearing it about simmons, he has no history of injuries and he's a 19, 20 year old kid whos growing into his body still. Its smart to give those players a long time to heal since their body is changing during the entire healing process. Same thing probably happened to embiid. He sat out that second year because while his foot was trying to heal, the rest of his body gained 2 inches and 20 pounds. Of course its going to need extra time. and now he's trying to learn the game of basketball against grown men, when he's never had more than 30 games in a season to train his body for what was coming in the nba. If you didn't see a minor i jury coming then your not using common sense. Hell be back, hell learn his mistakes and hell continue to improve. Everyone needs to calm down.

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06 Feb 2017 18:25:36
The sixers can't trade their 2017 pick with option to swap with kings and their 2018 pick because that's essentially trading away your own pick in consecutive years, which you cannot do. So this trade wouldn't work the way its written.

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01 Sep 2016 15:57:00
This is a terrible trade because the sixers have to give up nerlens, covington (one of the only people who can shoot on the team) and a high lottery pick (probably top 5 from LA) to get bradley beal. In what world does that make sense? What has beadley beal done?

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16 Aug 2016 12:30:28
I believe you can get better return for nerlens without having to pay that much cash out to crabbe. And the 3 2nd rounders (clevelands basically a 2nd since it will be in high 20s) does nothing to really change the value.

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12 Aug 2016 15:15:02
Celtics def say yes to this. But sixers say no. They want more value in a single asset for either noel or okafor. not multiple players and a pick in the 20s.

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