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20 Sep 2018 14:27:23
Wolves/ Sixers:

To PHI - Butler

To MIN - RoCo, Bayless, 2019 Philly first.

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1.) 20 Sep 2018 16:55:35
I believe that it will take more from PHI to get Butler. 76ers might have to add Saric or Zaire Smith. Steep price for a possible one year rental.

2.) 20 Sep 2018 17:14:56
Agreed with Warlock. Hard to see Phili getting Butler without letting go of Covington along with one of Smith or Saric.

3.) 21 Sep 2018 00:33:46
If Thibs is the one making the deal he wants to add vets to the line up. While Saric is a good player his defense alongside KAT would be terrible and Smith is a project player that isn't going to have an impact on saving his job after this year if he makes it that far.

4.) 21 Sep 2018 00:51:32
Fair enough, Zaire and an additional second then.

Yes, a lot for Philly to give up for a potential rental, but Philly strikes me as a PG13 style landing spot for Butler. Get there, see how good they are, realize you could win a bunch, and stay.



16 Aug 2018 12:49:35
Knicks/ Pels

To NYK: Ajinca, Emeka, Liggins, 2019 2nd, 2022 2nd

To NOP: Lee

Knicks get three expiring deals, helping to get closer to dual max space next year, along with a couple of picks.

Pels get the 3 and D wing they still need for a very reasonable price.

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1.) 16 Aug 2018 17:05:53
Simmons Ajinca for Hardaway is better for both team.

2.) 16 Aug 2018 17:35:16
shizzee, I assume you mean Solomon Hill.

I’m sure the Knicks would be willing to move THJ, but the Pels are looking 3 and D, which Hardaway doesn’t offer like Lee does.

3.) 16 Aug 2018 18:58:41
Lee for hill than shumpert for hardaway.

4.) 16 Aug 2018 19:45:12
Those 2nds will be going to the pelicans for taking on lee's salary. Lee is not going to be getting 30 minutes a game for the pelicans. He could be a good addition but I don't think the cost trade off works and I have a hard time seeing him on the floor in front of moore, holiday, hill, miller, maybe even Jackson, bluiett. Smaller than hill and miller and would cost a 1st to dump next summer if he doesn't work out in the rotation.



26 Jul 2018 17:23:23
Raptors/ Spurs trade:

To TOR - Derozan

To SAS - any combination of players to match salaries

Spurs and Raptors do this just so the rest of us are spared Demar’s whining. I appreciate that he feels “betrayed”, but now cancelling out of Basketball without Borders because it’s a Ujiri thing? Grow up a bit bud.

Triangle O

1.) 26 Jul 2018 18:09:51
You can't understand that he's genuinely upset and has to uproot his entire life? He is a person and not just a basketball player.

If you were forced to transfer from your dream job and location to somewhere you have no interest in living, how happy would you be? I'd be pretty pissed.

2.) 26 Jul 2018 21:20:06
Bmiller, I understand why he would be upset, and appreciate the ramifications of moving family, etc. With that said, I did not sign up to work for a company that can “forcefully” transfer me. Being dealt is part of being an athlete. Most athletes families don’t live in the city they play in either.

Now, let me put it back at you. You’re working for a company and you no longer want to work there, can you force your work to send you to a competitor ala Claw? What are the chances that I can openly negotiate with all of my current company’s major competitors openly without being fired? Every time a player plays the FA market and then decides to resign where they were, that is a luxury you and I would not be afforded.

I understand his anger, my point was he’s just gone on about it for far too long, and has now become petty with this Basketball without Borders thing. We all know you’re not happy Demar, now move on.

3.) 26 Jul 2018 21:24:32
Being traded is part of the risk NBA players take signing those huge contracts. They get paid way too much to play a game. It's just as ridiculous as Latrell Sprewell saying he couldn't afford to feed his kids on $10M a year. IMO suck it up or find another job.

4.) 26 Jul 2018 21:48:33
Especially since the Raptors told Rozen that he wasn't being traded, just days before the deal.
That said, pro sports are a business and things like that happen. So, there are two sides to it. I do feel for him.

5.) 27 Jul 2018 17:40:25
From a business perspective, it's not a competitor, it's a different section of the same company (the NBA) .

I can negotiate with a competitor without my current company finding out because I don't work in a public industry. I've done it, I've been offered a different job with better pay and benefits, and my current company wanted to retain me, so they matched those numbers. It's really common in businesses.

Being traded is part of the NBA, and I get that. Not saying that they shouldn't have traded him. But Toronto handled it incredibly poorly at every level. And Derozan should be given the benefit to be unhappy with the outcome. It's not like he's asking out of his contract or refusing to play, he's just short term pissed.

I think that Toronto might have shot themselves in the foot overall. Will a big time free agent want to go there with the way they handled this situation? I would drop them a bit on my "Free Agent Destination Power Rankings" after this.



10 Jul 2018 03:36:41
Spurs/ Bulls:

To SAS - Valentine, Portis, Zipser, 2019 1st (top 10 protected)

To CHI - Leonard

Accidentally hit the send button when I meant to change my initial post.

Bulls have quality youth that can be expendable (eg. Lauri ahead of Bobby on depth chart), and while they are not on the rumoured list of teams Claw would sign an extension with, the Bulls could be an attractive place after spending a year there. Lauri, Zach, Wendell, and Kris are a nice young base, and with expiring deals like Lopez’, Bulls will have at least one max contract spot available next offseason. Imagine a lineup of Kyrie, Zach, Kawhi, Lauri and Wendell next year.

For the Spurs, they don’t get the stud youngster, but they get two quality pieces in Denzel and Bobby, take a flyer on Zipser, and possibly sneaks in that first next year as the Bulls with a healthy Claw could be a playoff contender.

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10 Jul 2018 03:25:41
Spurs/ Bulls:

To SAS - Valentine, Portis, 2019 1st (lottery protected), 2021 1st (top 5 protected)

To CHI - Leonard

I know Chicago has not been mentioned as a landing spot for Claw, but the Bulls have some young talent they can make available in Denzel and Bobby, and has all of their 1st’s to offer.

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20 Feb 2015 22:16:07
Realistic Knicks FA targets

I try to be and think I am a realistic Knicks fan. As much as people talk about the lure of the Big Apple, look at the Knicks recent FA track record. It's full of overpaying for old, injury prone or questionable character talent. The LeBron's of the NBA are not signing with us, at least not in the immediate future.

As such, here are the five most reasonable FA targets I believe the Knicks could get, and would be good fits:

5) Goran Dragic - I'm only putting him on this list because he named New York as one of his preferred destinations. I'm pretty sure he'll resign in Miami, but should he not, the Knicks have a shot at him.

4) Thad Young - I've always liked Young, he brings a lot of good things to the table that the Knicks could use. He can play and defend multiple positions well and brings a great work ethic. Knicks don't defend and unfortunately don't hustle much either. He's still young (no pun intended) at 26, and you're not going to have to break the bank to get him ($9-$10M per).

Aaron Afflalo- The guard equivalent of Thad Young with the addition of being a good corner 3 point shooter, which is big in the triangle. $10M per guy as well.

2) Patrick Beverley - Great value addition who plays hard nose D and fits better as a triangle PF than a traditional one. If Dragic is available, throw Beverley off this list, if not, I would rather have Pat at $7M than Reggie Jackson at $14M.

1) Tobias Harris - Most people would have expected Marc Gasol as the #1 non Dragic target, but:

A) why spend max money on him if you can pick Okafor
B) He most likely stays in Memphis, and if not, goes to San Antonio

Harris isn't the defensive player that the others above are, but he's a good mid and long range shooter for a bigger guy, hustles, and most importantly he's from New York and has suggested that going home would be great. $12M should get close to landing him.

Phil has said he would be more inclined to sign mid-level FA's this offseason, and if Beverley is a guy the Knick sign, they still could sign two more of Young/Afflalo/Harris and stay just under the cap without other moves. Assuming filling needs, let's go with Harris and Afflalo, which would give the Knicks a potential 2015-16 starting lineup of:

PG - Beverley
SG - Afflalo
SF - Melo
PF - Harris
C - Okafor

Championship contender, not yet, but 15-16 would be a much better year. With no first round pick in 16, might as well be better anyways!

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21 Sep 2018 03:43:57
Hey MD, the Raps 2019 pick already belongs to the Spurs. Though it’s protected, you can’t trade it twice.

You have got to stop posting brah, you’re not getting many believables.

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21 Sep 2018 00:51:32
Fair enough, Zaire and an additional second then.

Yes, a lot for Philly to give up for a potential rental, but Philly strikes me as a PG13 style landing spot for Butler. Get there, see how good they are, realize you could win a bunch, and stay.

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20 Sep 2018 14:24:19
If the Clips go after Butler, it will be to pair with another star this offseason. They won’t want additional long term salary commitments in a deal. Butler for Bradley, Robinson, top 10 protected first and a 2nd is more likely. Bradley would fit Thibs system well.

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18 Sep 2018 13:35:34
I’m a big Beverley fan, but Dinwiddie makes more sense. Pat is a bulldog, but he’s not a true PG, more a combo guard. Trade does make sense in either case though, the Nets and Clips have the guard to spare, and are both looking for picks.

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14 Sep 2018 13:14:09
Milspo, both Dotson and Thomas are guaranteed for next year, take a look at Basketball Reference if you would like confirmation.

I’m a Knicks fan, so I’m not trying to spew Lakers agenda, I’m just pointing out that there are better deals for Butler that are conceivably out there.

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