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24 Aug 2016 15:26:06
Bucks - Faried
Nuggets - Monroe
Bucks get defensive pf and center for small lineups. Also helps the rebounding issue, and gives bucks trade flexibility (Henson, Faried, Teletovic all have tradeable deals especially if Thon does well) . Helps cover the lack of a real backup SF since Giannis and Parker can always play it. Makes Middleton log all ~36min at SG, so less pressure on young guys behind him.
Nuggets get expiring deal that frees up even more cap room to both resign Gallinari and aquire new free agents next year. If the unlikely fit works then they can resign him too. If Monroe doesn't work with Jokic etc., give core young players more PT as they aren't worried about winning yet.
1.) 24 Aug 2016 15:40:00
Pretty good trade
2.) 24 Aug 2016 16:38:49
I don't hate this either. No one likes Monroe on here though.
3.) 24 Aug 2016 17:13:23
Faried and Defense aren't in the same sentence. and i think Monroe just needs to play next to AD in order to be a 18/ 9 guy he is capable of.
4.) 24 Aug 2016 17:34:38
Yeah not defensive, idk why I typed that. Maybe I was thinking more so than Tele and Parker currently are, the change of scheme may help him out just like one could for monroe.
5.) 24 Aug 2016 23:07:28
a) faried isn't defensive, like everyone has said.
b), what are you talking about thunderfan? seriously, do you read what you write before pressing reply?
He needs to be next to anthony davis to bring him to the 18/ 9 potential he could be. he's averaged like 16 and 9 for the last 5 years. So playing with anthony davis will break the flood gate and add 2 points? Like that would make him finally max out that potential with the same rebounds but now a whole whopping 2 pts more? good point. seems valid.
6.) 27 Aug 2016 21:07:06
Love the trade. Thunderfan might not be up to snuff on Monroe. 15/ 9 consistently for his whole career. Not that any of this is relevant.
21 Jul 2016 04:11:09
Too many people are saying Rudy Gay to the Bucks, who should have no intentions to sign a SF that requires so many shots while trying to develop giannis, parker, and middleton.
They need to get rid of Monroe and the only team interested seems to be the Spurs.
The Spurs need to get rid of Danny Green for cap reasons I believe. didn't look that up myself
The 76ers need a SG/ SF that has some proven talent, because they have none.
Bucks would love more young talent I'm sure. Rashad Vaughn's confidence is not there and he is missing his shots, Brogdon is not a true shooter. Could take something from the Sixers there. They also could use some more defense at the rim, Noel would provide that.
Though all the talk is still about a Okafor trade, Noel is a possibility. Okafor and Simmons have known each other for a long time possibly helping suspected chemistry issues, and Noel would fetch them more in a trade it seems.
Also, the 76ers don't seem to be getting anything good from the Celtics. The Celtics failed to get Durant, Wade, Griffin, Howard, Okafor earlier, Westbrook. they seem like they want to get a big piece without parting from any of their own true assets.
With that, it seems all teams would be at least interested in this trade:
(is not full trade, smaller pieces that fill the gaps become to hard to predict whether it be players or 2nd rnd picks)
Spurs get Monroe
Sixers get Green + (another piece maybe Mills)
Bucks get Noel + (a combo or single player likely a SG/ PG to not take mins from Giannis/ middleton/ parker)
Honestly, I'm not entirely sure why the Spurs have interest in Monroe. But the Bucks need to get rid of him. The Sixers need to get rid of a C/ PF and need some shooting and D for Simmons (Green) . Bucks need to increase potential with the bigs, Plumlee just meshes well, Henson isn't much and Thon Maker is a couple years out at least (needs muscle and maturity) .
Works on Trade Machine for those wondering, what do ya think?
1.) 21 Jul 2016 09:00:12
It's not bad, but 3 way trades are hard to do. Even though the Public's consensus value on Noel is way higher than what GMs think, he's still worth a lot more that Monroe, plus the Spurs have Gasol and Aldridge as big men.
2.) 21 Jul 2016 14:15:41
Why would the spurs give up their starting sg who has been very solid, for a center who doesn't play defense. Monroe has been a loser his entire career. The spurs are far happier starting aldridge and gasol, they are just giving up green for a backup big man.
Also. I personally think Noel has WORLDS more value at this point than monroe. Thinking th ebucks are stuck with him unless they basically trade him for a late 1st or 2nd rounder.
3.) 21 Jul 2016 16:51:31
Honestly I like this trade, I think Bucks may have to give up something more to even out the value a bit. Maybe a2nd rounder, Vaughn, or Ennis to Philly.
@Jalex on behalf of Gerald when you mention the Spurs' bigs, he knows who they have and that's why he says, he doesn't know why the Spurs are interested. But they have come out and said they are interested in trading for Monroe (maybe fill the Duncan role even though they are not relatively close to the same player or style). Obviously the reason is beyond you, me and Gerald, but as a Bucks fan I want Monroe gone and if I can turn him into Noel I'm happy
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08 Aug 2016 22:49:49
Would a trade between the Bucks and Celtics be able to get done?
Celtics don't seem to be willing to give up any proven assets, so it does seem like the best player they could get this off season is Monroe.
The only feasible looking trade is for Amir Johnson, who seems expendable for the Cs with Horford. But the Bucks would need someone else for them to be interested.
Rozier doesn't fit the Bucks mold too well.
Young isn't attractive. I'm not the GM but I'd steer clear.
In my eyes Hunter would be attainable, he's lanky like the rest of the Bucks, and shows some upside.
Amir Johnson and RJ Hunter - Greg Monroe
What do the Celtics fans think? Do you need Ennis, 2nd rounders, or something more?
I think if anything more than Ennis or a 2nd rndr is required we can begin to lay some Greg Monroe rumors to rest. Nobody else really has the need for him and won't offer much.
Also, it does sound an awful lot like Allen would sign with us. we have two roster spots left which Novak and Allen could fill. He mentioned a team where he can help with young talent and play some minutes (obviously we aren't deep for the SG), sounds like the Bucks to me.
Sorry for the rant, but i guess ideally the trade is:
Amir Johnson and RJ Hunter (& a pick? ) - Greg Monroe and Tyler Ennis
just to preserve Allen a spot on the team.
1.) 09 Aug 2016 01:06:12
I don't see Monroe being a difference maker for the Celtics and due to the cap space he could tie up going into next offseason (he has a player option) I don't see it worth Celtics getting him just so they can say they got someone.
2.) 09 Aug 2016 16:04:39
As a Celtic fan I don't see Monroe fitting well with the team we have. To me as a Celtics fan I think that Amir Johnson would be more valuable to the Celtics because of his defense. He is the best shot blocking big we have on the team and Monroe wouldn't be able to replicate that. Also I don't see him able to fit well with Horford down low. Yeah I know Horford was able to stretch his game out to the arc but to me he does his best down low, also where Monroe needs to operate. Another reason I don't think he would fit well is because we are one of the top teams that plays through our bigs and we would need someone who can pass well off the high post and the block and I'm not sure but I don't think Monroe does that well.
25 Jul 2016 19:39:57
Even though his shooting percentages aren't there, I'd like to see the Bucks trade for Marcus Smart. His defense is great and his size helps his versatility when they need to switch on picks.
However I'm not sure if the Bucks could get him, maybe a trade for Henson? He might be an alternate to what they were looking for in Noel? It couldn't be a straight swap but I'll let you guys choose who else would need to be moved on each team.
If that's feasible then also trade MCW for McLemore.
All that's left is trying to trade Monroe for a backup SF and some picks (maybe the Pondexter + two 2nd rnd DFs as Schmidt? stated earlier) . I think Maker would be adequate for a backup C at 7'1" in most scenarios vs. other backups.
PG - Delly/ Smart - Ennis/ Brogdon
SG - Middleton - McLemore - Vaughn
SF - Giannis - Pondexter
PF - Parker - Teletovic
C - Plumlee - Maker
You'd have to hope for no injuries with this lineup though.
1.) 26 Jul 2016 01:44:27
Hensen doesn't appear to be getting better. If anything, he's regressing. A big who can't rebound or get to the line. Not sure how he'd get minutes in Boston.
2.) 26 Jul 2016 02:13:56
Smart wouldn't be an awful gain especially if you could get him for Henson (I don't think they could) but I think Delly can give you just as good defense with better shooting making him more valuable to a team like the Bucks that is short on shooting.
Getting McLemore for MCW is a more realistic deal especially since with Collison potentially facing legal issues the Kings have a gaping hole at pg and McLemore has been an annual disappointment (Kings brought in Afflalo and drafted Richardson who both can replace him) . A new city may help him and if not isn't a big price to pay.
3.) 26 Jul 2016 14:34:59
The weakness I see in Delly is the same weakness that let the Cavs beat the Warriors three straight. The warriors switch on most screens so all that needed to happen was screen Curry, force a switch, then Iso whoever curry is guarding (usually for LeBron) .
The difference with Smart is his size, I guess that's what I was going for.
Delly's better shooting definitely would help more offensively, but I feel like Giannis or Parker has to develop a better shot if the team is going to get anywhere anyways. Also, Smart has more shooting potential than we currently have with MCW, if that says anything.
23 Sep 2016 14:44:37
holiday isn't playing for a while, wife has a brain tumor.
06 Sep 2016 04:52:42
I think it's a fun trade. No doubt have to see if MCW, Giannis, and/ or Parker started shooting better first. Fit isn't as good until then, but if shooting improves:
Pg - Delly
Sg - Korver
Sf - Parker
Pf - Giannis
Ce - Henson/ Plum
Pg - MCW
Sg - Oladipo
Sf - Giannis/ Parker
Pf - Teletovic/ Thon
Ce - Monroe
Reserves: Brogdon Vaughn (D league/ trade) Novak Terry
I think you'd end up trading some big men, idk who your targets would be though team seems stacked.
24 Aug 2016 17:34:38
Yeah not defensive, idk why I typed that. Maybe I was thinking more so than Tele and Parker currently are, the change of scheme may help him out just like one could for monroe.
11 Aug 2016 16:41:03
Korver is too old for the Bucks.
07 Aug 2016 06:04:21
Johnson would have to be in the trade for salary reasons, but the most you'd get outside of him is like Rozier maybe or Hunter. That is if they even want Monroe.
But if they could sign Allen that'd be great for guys like Vaughn to get such guidance.
19 Aug 2016 14:00:59
Toss Lamb in a trade since he has more potential than a 3rd string sf and you'd be closer, but still not there.
09 Aug 2016 18:52:48
Tre - Now Parker has lost weight too, however Giannis is filling out and Maker may come into play so it'll be interesting to see how the roles change. I don't see him as a PF either
It's an interesting thing to think about how the team would change should one be traded, I don't know what I'd need in return as of now since they aren't gunning for a ring just yet.
08 Aug 2016 00:00:10
If you are going to be posting trade after trade on here at least do your research.
MCW and Monroe would put together a much better bench than asik and Cunningham.
Idrk Cunningham's play style but I don't want Asik and I don't think the pelicans do either. The bucks aren't looking to trade Monroe for anyone with a bad contract, they'd rather just let Monroe go next year I'm sure. It's easier to see us getting Tyreke, Amir Johnson, or someone with a similar contract that can be a rental before we have to pay Giannis and Javari their maxes.
MCW isn't going to be traded so quick, he would be a great bench leader. He doesn't mesh the best with the starters but a second group can have a different style of play.
Also stop putting Giannis at the PG, he is really the SF, Middleton the SG, Delly the PG. All that changes is Giannis runs the offense.
26 Jul 2016 14:34:59
The weakness I see in Delly is the same weakness that let the Cavs beat the Warriors three straight. The warriors switch on most screens so all that needed to happen was screen Curry, force a switch, then Iso whoever curry is guarding (usually for LeBron) .
The difference with Smart is his size, I guess that's what I was going for.
Delly's better shooting definitely would help more offensively, but I feel like Giannis or Parker has to develop a better shot if the team is going to get anywhere anyways. Also, Smart has more shooting potential than we currently have with MCW, if that says anything.