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07 Mar 2016 21:23:18
I posted this trade around a year ago and a lot of the comments that came back was Portland didn't give enough. In light of recent performances and current situations, I was wondering if it was any closer to being deemed as a fair trade. I'm not sure if any team does it, I just think it would be very interesting to see how these teams would do post-trade.
Portland Trail Blazers Trade; Damian Lillard, C. J McCollum
Receive; Russell Westbrook
LA Clippers Trade; Chris Paul
Receive; Damian Lillard, C. J McCollum
OKC Trade; Russell Westbrook
Receive; Chris Paul.
1.) 07 Mar 2016 23:35:11
Blazers get shorted, CP3 for westbrook straight up.
2.) 07 Mar 2016 23:41:05
Okc says no Westbrook is better than Chris especially right now.
3.) 07 Mar 2016 23:41:49
Why would the blazers do this? Lillard is better than both of them and they are both fa's next year.
4.) 08 Mar 2016 00:01:25
Clippers need to give more.
5.) 08 Mar 2016 00:10:56
Portland has something going good with Lillard and McCollum no need to trade them.
6.) 08 Mar 2016 02:32:07
There's no way I'd trade Lillard (locked in for 5 years) and McCollum (restricted next year, can lock in for 5 years after next year) for a guy that would 99% likely bolt after next year.
03 Jul 2015 21:06:38
DeAndre is heading to Dallas
01 Jul 2015 00:46:46
Sixers Trade;
Embiid
Nuggets entering rebuild mode, its a risk but get's rid of Lawson & brings down salary which is 9th highest in league
Den Trade;
Lawson
Chandler(exp)
Lawson will be able to get the ball to Okafor where he wants it & chandler, an expiring deal can spread floor & attack basket. Decent defender
1.) 01 Jul 2015 16:30:07
no even with embiids injury lawson is too small and won't be very good in a couple years and chandler is decent but not enough for embiid
2.) 01 Jul 2015 16:36:41
Sixers rather have Embiid then Lawson b
01 Jul 2015 00:27:35
Pelicans Trade;
Ryan Anderson
Pacers Trade;
Roy Hibbert
22 Apr 2015 12:05:18
Portland Trail Blazers Trade; Damian Lillard, C.J McCollum
Receive; Russell Westbrook
LA Clippers Trade; Chris Paul
Receive; Damian Lillard, C.J McCollum, OKC 2017 2ndRD DP
OKC Trade; Russell Westbrook, 2017 2ndRD DP
Receive; Chris Paul
1.) 22 Apr 2015 13:58:14
At this point, I'd rather have Westbrook than Paul.
2.) 22 Apr 2015 16:11:18
Westbrook is going nowhere its his team now.
3.) 22 Apr 2015 20:35:51
Blazers not giving nearly enough.
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24 Feb 2017 12:38:10
What's going on in Philly?
Over the years on this site I've seen fans defend their strategy of how they go about their business but after yesterday, once again, what is going on?
The owners are trying to run the team as the business & have lured fans into buying into 'the process' to almost cover & mask what they're doing.
How many times are we going to see them draft a player, develop them for a couple of years & then before they have to pay them, trade them?
Not every player on your roster can be an all star/superstar caliber type player however the 76ers front office don't seem to understand that you need role players to be a successful team.
Trading Noel for fresh air after he's proved he can be a valuable defensive presence & a good re-bounder makes absolutely no sense. It's not absurd to think you're still going to move Okafor as well. Who know's what you'll get in return for him, maybe 8 second rounders?
But jokes aside, Embiid looks like he has great potential if he can stay healthy & Simmons, you'd expect to go on to be a All-star caliber player. However at this rate are they going to have any team mates to play with or just draft picks?
This post is not to disrespect the Philly organisation but more to gain more of an understanding on how the fans feel about what's going on?
1.) 24 Feb 2017 23:23:24
76ers had the correct mentality. Its better to be an awful team and get a chance at picking the next superstar than to be mediocre. Its also smart to go for talent over fit when you are a horrible team. Getting 3 centers probably wasn't the wisest move in hindsight but given Embiid's injuries and that Okafor at the time was considered the best prospect available at #3 (some argued he should go #1 over KAT and it was a surprise Lakers with their big man history didn't take him) I don't think those were inherently bad moves. It did however have the effect of decreasing the value of all 3 since everyone knew they'd have to move one of them eventually. 76ers should've stomached this since it did after all give them time to evaluate all three and ultimately discover Embiid as a beast and dealt Okafor or Noel at a slight loss early this season.
However, naturally they thought they should get more for their guys and that the price might increase later into the season. This obviously didn't happen and they got stuck in a situation where they could keep all 3 or move one for a significant loss. They obviously opted for the 2nd option and I think its the best move. Overall, the 76ers are coming out very much ahead and are one of the most promising teams in the league. Keeping all 3 for longer is a distraction for the team and would hurt development of all three. Don't think Noel's value would ever increase unless he played consistent minutes and he'd be even harder to deal with new contract (plus 76ers would have to take back significant salary in a trade) .
Although they clearly lost that trade I think they are in a better place. Embiid has proven to be already among the best centers in the league. 76ers' own pick should be very good and they still have over a 50% chance of keeping Lakers pick (assuming they end season with 3rd worst record) and they have Simmons coming back next year. With more minutes for Okafor he has a chance to increase his trade value but he also wouldn't make a bad backup.
The return for Noel was a bit underwhelming but I don't think its any reason to sound the alarm. 76ers still have a bright future ahead of them and depending on how the ping pong balls go and the rest of offseason could be a serious contender for a playoff spot as soon as next season.
2.) 25 Feb 2017 01:33:19
'I think they are in a better place. ' - This is the mindset I'm talking about. If I was a 76ers fan I wouldn't be happy at the fact I just traded one of my better players because the front office made a mistake in drafting too many big's in a league that's getting smaller by the second.
Philly fan's have bought into the 'run the team as a business' policy and its almost like they don't understand or don't see what's going on. Happy accumulating picks and shedding/ dumping salary to keep the books neat and tidy.
The question I ask myself throughout all of this is, who's going to want to come and play in Philly through free agency? without having to seriously overpay?
Embiid is looking like he's going to be a monster, however in 2 years has played 31 games. Simmons, (I don't know enough about to say how good he's going to be but from what I've heard other people say is the next big thing) won't play a single minute this season. Yes they are both good prospects, but in a win now league good players aren't going to go out of their way to come join the band in Philly.
The pick you get this year will be crucial in how things progress and of course, the tanking shall now begin. As an NBA fan I just find it frustrating at what I've seen from the organisation over the past couple of years and also frustrating that the fans are okay with it.
Even with the emergence of Embiid, you're still a good couple of years from even being a solid playoff contender due to the moves being made. Not everyone you pick is going to be as good as he is and certainly not develop so quickly and it just feels like the front office want superstar caliber guaranteed and if they're not going to be a world beater, move them on and try again in the following years draft or one down the line.
01 Mar 2016 15:28:56
Irving is a good player but I don't think he has the right to be disgruntled by the position he's in, in CLE if the rumors of him being unhappy are true.
When the extension was signed surely he knew there was a chance of LeBron coming back? and if he did know and was happy to sign knowing this, what did he expect was going to happen?
LBJ is better with his ball in his hands than Kyrie by far. If you have the chance of running your offence through Irving or LBJ, for me personally, there's only one choice. LeBron's IQ alone makes this an easy choice.
If CLE don't win the title this year, which I can't see them winning and Kyrie does legitimately want out, who do you think they could get in return for him?
I heard an interesting conversation about Lillard, however at this point I would rather have Dame than Irving.
1.) 01 Mar 2016 23:23:02
The cp3 trade makes too much sense. Kyrie with Griffin and Jordan is a young team that can get better with kyrie locked up while the cavs get Paul in win mode who is a better fit probably than kyrie.
30 Nov 2015 21:36:39
Philly fans.
I'm curious. I don't see a lot of Philly games so I don't really know much about the team, yet I constantly see select Philly fans going crazy about Noel and virtually mark him as un-tradeable. (From the dismantling of trades I've seen on this website. )
Why? What do you expect Noel to develop into?
From what I've seen he can't shoot from the field and only averages 10 shots on an 0-18 team whilst shooting 40%. This means his FG% has gone down from last year. He shoots 61% from the line which isn't great to say he only gets there 3 times per game. (Down from last year again)
He averages 8RPG. Nothing special. He also averages 1 BPG which is down from last year as well.
I understand the fact the team is in a difficult position in terms of talent and quality on the roster. This could probably present a detrimental affect on his own personal performance, however glimpses I've seen of his style of play doesn't constitute the extremely high level of praise he receives on this website.
Am I missing something?
23 Feb 2017 12:29:09
One of the worst trades I've ever seen.
06 Mar 2016 18:31:16
Houston more than likely says no. Picks are nice but the players would have to be probably have to be something like Barton, Harris, Lauvergne and get rid of Memphis pick maybe.
31 Jan 2016 20:01:56
They could maybe be swayed into a deal like that but not with Noel. He's not good enough first of all and paired together with Jordan, would be an offensive disaster.
31 Jan 2016 19:59:25
The suns wouldn't give up Goodwin alone for that package.
The Mavs would have 0 qualms with 'agreeing'
31 Jan 2016 19:58:27
Miami should and never will agree.
25 Feb 2017 01:33:19
'I think they are in a better place. ' - This is the mindset I'm talking about. If I was a 76ers fan I wouldn't be happy at the fact I just traded one of my better players because the front office made a mistake in drafting too many big's in a league that's getting smaller by the second.
Philly fan's have bought into the 'run the team as a business' policy and its almost like they don't understand or don't see what's going on. Happy accumulating picks and shedding/ dumping salary to keep the books neat and tidy.
The question I ask myself throughout all of this is, who's going to want to come and play in Philly through free agency? without having to seriously overpay?
Embiid is looking like he's going to be a monster, however in 2 years has played 31 games. Simmons, (I don't know enough about to say how good he's going to be but from what I've heard other people say is the next big thing) won't play a single minute this season. Yes they are both good prospects, but in a win now league good players aren't going to go out of their way to come join the band in Philly.
The pick you get this year will be crucial in how things progress and of course, the tanking shall now begin. As an NBA fan I just find it frustrating at what I've seen from the organisation over the past couple of years and also frustrating that the fans are okay with it.
Even with the emergence of Embiid, you're still a good couple of years from even being a solid playoff contender due to the moves being made. Not everyone you pick is going to be as good as he is and certainly not develop so quickly and it just feels like the front office want superstar caliber guaranteed and if they're not going to be a world beater, move them on and try again in the following years draft or one down the line.
28 Mar 2016 19:37:44
I'd personally put Thompson before Harden in the rotation.
07 Mar 2016 23:38:53
Interesting. Did it say if it was PER48 mins, a number of possessions or just their season averages?
07 Mar 2016 21:42:29
The logic behind 'cavs didn't have love and irving last year, so if they're healthy this year they'll win' is a terrible point to make this year for them winning.
Kevin Love isn't consistently good enough on either end of the floor to be a problem to the warriors and Curry is better at being Irving that Irving is. The both play questionable defense and are exceptional with the ball in their hands, however Curry is much more of a threat off-ball and is arguably the greatest shooter of all time.
How anybody can back any team to beat the warriors over 7 games is mind blowing. Nobody can guard Curry or even Thompson at times, the only way the Warriors lose is if they beat themselves (last night in LA being my point. ) You have to rely on them being worse than you are good to have a legitimate chance at winning over 7 games.
It will be interesting to see a Cavs Warriors finals with healthy squads, however I don't see Cle having a chance over 7.
07 Mar 2016 21:28:43
He shoots 23% from downtown, averages 3 assists per game whilst averaging 2.6 TO and somebody once argued with me on the site that he was better than Eric Bledsoe.