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24 Apr 2018 16:41:02
nba trade on draft trade
if leonard really want to leave in spurs and not signing in 2019 with spurs trade him

leonard to knicks
frank ntilikina, tim hardaway jr and 2018 new york knicks 1st rd pk for kawhi leonard

leonard to trailblazers
cj McCollum and 2018 portland trailblazers 1st rd pk and 2020 1st rd pk for kawhi leonard

leonard to clippers
deandre jordan, danilo gallinari and 2018 los angeles clippers 1st rd pk for kawhi leonard and pau gasol

not to lakers: spurs ban and trade offer from lakers
not to celtics: maybe celtics can't reach nba finals i believe celtics is a contender next season when irving hayward is back and brown on her 3rd season and tatum on her 2nd season
not to 76ers i don't think 76ers need leonard 76ers lead 3-1 over heat and 1 games left to advance in semi finals and can sign lebron james

any thoughts?

25 Apr 2018 03:36:14
All of those are terrible, Spurs hang up on the opposing GM every time.

24 Apr 2018 15:32:35
Kemba Walker and Cody Zeller for Brandon Knight, Jared Dudley, Tyler Ulis and 2018 Miami pick.

23 Apr 2018 22:54:55
Hypothetical trade. Only plausible if Lebron leaves.

Heat trade: Hassan Whiteside, Tyler Johnson
Heat receive: George Hill, Tyson Chandler, Jonas Jerebko (waive) Ekpe Udoh (waive), 2018 own first (from Phoenix)

Jazz trade: Alec Burks, Thabo Sefelosha, Ekpe Udoh, Jonas Jerebko, Royce O'Neal, 2018 Jazz 1st
Jazz receive: Kevin Love, Kyle Korver

Cavs trade: Kevin Love, George Hill, Kyle Korver
Cavs receive: Brandon Knight, Alec Burks, Jared Dudley (buyout), Thabo Sefelosha (waive), Royce O'Neal (waive), 2018 1st via jazz, 2021 1st (MIA) via Phoenix

Suns trade: Tyson Chandler, Brandon Knight, Jared Dudley, 2018 1st (MIA), 2021 first (MIA)
Suns receive: Hassan Whiteside, Tyler Johnson

Why for the heat? Heat cut down luxury tax expense this year and the next. They open up a starting spot for Adebayo. George Hill and Tyson Chandler could be solid veterans for them this upcoming season and they only have $1 million guaranteed salary combined for the 2019-2020 season. They also get this years pick back.

Why for the jazz? Jazz bring in two great shooters. Love's shooting at the 4 provides a great compliment to gobert. Although the jazz take a hit defensively, they open up the lanes for Rubio and Mitchell to penetrate.

Why for the cavs? If lebron leaves, they need to cut salary and get picks. This deal saves them money immediately and they get 2 1st round picks.

Why for the suns? The suns rid themselves of their 3 biggest contracts who are all too old for their timeline. They get their starting center that could be a defensive anchor for them. They also replace knight with Tyler Johnson. Although Johnson is getting paid about $5 million more per year than knight, he at least actually plays and the suns can afford him. The suns have plenty of youth already and don't need the draft picks.

24 Apr 2018 03:55:06
The Jazz should probably give up a little more and the Cavs and Heat should probably get a little more.

24 Apr 2018 07:15:56
Suns are giving up 2 1st rounders to get rid of expiring contracts and for taking 40+ million in salary? Yeah right.

24 Apr 2018 11:35:06
Rkenne, the heat and cavs are both going to be paying huge luxury taxes next year if they don't make some sort of trade. Obviously, the player value isn't there for either team, but I think both franchises would make this trade considering that they aren't legitimate contenders. Also, there is a lot of value in the unguaranteed and expiring contracts the Jazz are giving away.

Tonchcorkins, Brandon knight has two years left on his deal and he is on one of the worst contracts in the league since he rarely plays and when he does he always plays bad. Also, I think you are overvaluing the Miami picks. How much is pick 18 really worth in this draft? Whiteside definitely has a higher floor than anyone you could get then. And i think a new team could rejuvenate him. The 2021 pick is probably more valuable because who knows where the heat will be in 3 years. But still, I'll take my chances with whiteside for the next 2 years.

24 Apr 2018 12:17:19
If Lebron walks, the Cavs are already out of the luxury and they give 3 guys that combined make 50 million dollars and are guaranteed less than 5 million after next season. You're using they're expirings to open up cap space for other teams.

24 Apr 2018 14:47:47
1088jonesp yur bashing knight, yet have Phoenix taking Johnson who makes 5 mill. More a season. Have you looked at the numbers for each player? Knight's worst years are better then Johnson's best years. Knight hasn't played because he was out for the season with an injury. So according to yur logic the suns trade all their expiring contracts along with 2 first rounders, plus trade knight for a more expensive yet less productive player. Please tell me how this makes any sense in yur head.

24 Apr 2018 19:05:56
Jdp85, Knight has missed nearly 50% of all games in the last 4 seasons. He is one of the most injury prone players in the league and he is severely overrated. He is a poor defender and a ball hog. His stats are inflated due to the fact that he has played on trash teams his entire career. I'd much rather have Tyler Johnson, a tough, gritty combo guard that won't dominate the ball and will knockdown open shots at a more efficient rate. Also, you completely ignored the fact the suns are getting hassan whiteside, one of the best defensive centers in the NBA.

23 Apr 2018 17:17:49
Mavericks - Trail Blazers

Mavericks gets:
Turner
Leonard
24th pick
2019 2nd (Lakers or Timberwolves)
2021 2nd (Heat)

Trail Blazers gets:
Barnes

23 Apr 2018 20:13:25
If Portland could unload two bad contracts, pick up an above average SF, and only give up one first, I think they’d do cartwheels.

23 Apr 2018 16:00:20
Miami: T Chandler+ return 1rnd pick 2018 and 2021

Bulls: 1rst pick( Doncic)+ Chriss

Phoe: Markannen+ 6st pick: ( T Young)+Adebayo

23 Apr 2018 17:08:49
Just stop. Your trades are a joke. Phoenix gives up #1 plus Chris's plus 2 more first rounders to fall back to 6 and get Marianne and adebayo. There's a big diff. From #1 to #6.

23 Apr 2018 17:15:41
How is Miami getting 2 first round picks for adebayo?

23 Apr 2018 17:39:06
Miami also takes a bad contract.

The Suns need a center and a pointguard

Adebayo is a young promising center, i think he can become a 12 points 10 rebounds 2 blocks guy.

Markannen is a huge upgrade over chriss

And T Young is the pointguard they need.

C: Adebayo
PF: Markannen
Sf:Jackson
SG: Bookers
PG: Young

Maybe Miami should take Knight over Chandler to get the two picks.

23 Apr 2018 17:58:12
There is close to zero reason as to why PHX would even think about a deal such as this and, they have a young team that plans to keep this year's picks. Plus, no one is going to take Young as high as 6.

23 Apr 2018 18:55:31
Chandler on the last year of his contract. Noah contract wouldn't even be worth 2 first. Go back to playing 2k.

21 Apr 2018 12:20:49
phoe:Porzingis+Ntilikina

NY:T Chandler+Chriss+1rn pick phoe+1rnd pick bucks+1rnd pick miami 2021

Phoenix becomes a contender
C:Porzingis
PF:Bender
Sf:Jackson
SG:Booker
PG:Ntilikina

NY can draft Ayton and Bridges
They can start a rebuilt draft another talent next year and sign A Davis and another free agend in 2020 when Noahs contract is up.

21 Apr 2018 14:36:37
Way too much for porzingis That's practically 4 1st rounders if you count Chriss. Plus the giving up the #1 overall. Postings is good, but that kind of hall is for a top 10 player.

21 Apr 2018 16:46:06
Way too much for an injured player.

21 Apr 2018 16:48:33
For starters, Chriss is like a 1st. And so is Ntikilina, so its 3 1sts and a bad contract for Porzingis.

Porzingis is a top 10 player to build a franchise around, so moving on from that.

The 1 this year is big, but the bucks pick isn't lottery, and the heat pick is 3 years away. Its probably somewhat fair, knicks say no.

Porzingis is an established talent. The others are all unknowns.

21 Apr 2018 16:53:54
That trade idea is from last year before the draft and now Porzingus is "damaged goods" no dice from a Suns viewpoint.

21 Apr 2018 04:23:24
MEM/PHX

MEM get Tyson Chandler (exp), Alex Len, MIA 1st round pick & 2nd round pick

PHX get Marc Gasol

21 Apr 2018 06:37:29
Lol not happining.

21 Apr 2018 16:56:34
Nope. Here are a couple of reasons why: Chandler would rather retire than go to a number of teams and Memphis is one of those. Len is unrestricted. Suns can't send him anywhere. Suns want to be a young team Gasol doesn't work with that process.

20 Apr 2018 23:48:32
What's the best offer the Spurs can get if Leonard really wants out and play for a big market team.
Teams aren't going to give fair value for him. So what's the best offer?

1) Miami
Adebayo+ Winslow+Dragic

2)LA:
Deng+ Ingram+ future draft pick

3)Clippers:
Harris+ Detroit and Clippers pick

4)Boston
Tatum+Morris+future draft pick
or Hayward+ Future draft pick

5)NY
Ntilikina+Hardaway+ draft pick

6)Philly
Bayless+Fultz+LA pick

7)Chicago: R Lopez+Portis+ 1rnd pick 2018 and 2020

21 Apr 2018 02:56:55
Deal by deal:

1) no, Winslow has been a disappointment, and Spurs are going to want a pick too.

2) HECK NO! No way they take on Deng's contract, and what pick do the Lakers have to give that would be top 5 after they acquire Leonard. Personally, I don't even know if I like Ball over Dejonte right now.

3) no, Harris is a nice player, but him and two late lottery picks are nowhere close.

4) closer, I could see Tatum, Morris and two draft picks (one being Lakers/ Sac) if Leonard gave a nudge, nudge, wink, wink on resigning.

5) HECK NO, I know Frank is not better than Dejonte, Hardaway is a nice role player on a large contract, and number 9 is nowhere close.

6) take out Bayless, add in either Covington or Saric, add in the Sixers pick, and you're close.

7) no Lopez, add Valentine instead, who with Portia and the two picks gets you close.

I agree the Spurs are going to have to sell a little low on Kawhi, but all of these are not value enough to get him.

21 Apr 2018 03:25:16
Porzingis Hardaway for Leonard.

21 Apr 2018 11:21:25
P george was traded for Oladipo (not a star he's now) and Sabonis, the Pacers couldn't even get a draft pick for him.
Butler was traded for a late lottery, LaVine and Dunn.
Both trades turned out good for the Bulls and the Pacers.

All these trade give the the Spurs the opportunity to develop young players.

No team is going to give up fair value for Leonard. P George and LBJ are on the market this year, K Thompson, Butler, the next. No team is going to do a new C Anthony to the Knicks trade.

21 Apr 2018 13:05:56
Butler and George are not Leonard, and most these deals have mediocre young players and picks.

21 Apr 2018 13:44:06
I think these assets give them a good opportunity to rebuilt.
And the Miami offer gives them the opportunity to stay competitive for a few years.

22 Apr 2018 07:05:55
gasupo I agree to triangle O Butler and George is not Kawhi, kawhi Leonard is NBA champions NBA finals MVP an all star and dpoy and he also the one who gets championship back in 2015 in Spurs and also more accomplished than Butler and George.

19 Apr 2018 20:49:33
If Boston gets the LA pick this year

Boston: WC Stein
trade: Yabusele+ Memphis pick 2019

Phoenix: Fox
trade: T Chandler+ 1rnd pick Miami 2021+ 2rnd pick Phoe 2018

Philly: Hield
Trade: Bayless+ 1rnd pick Sac+ 2rnd pick Philly 2018

Sac: T Chandler+ Bayless+ Yabusele+ return 1 rnd pick Sac 2019+ 1rnd pick Memphis 2019+ 1rnd pick Miami 2021+ 2rnd pick Phoe and Philly

20 Apr 2018 03:39:33
WC Stein is not worth a first round pick and Yabusele.

20 Apr 2018 13:27:10
It's a lot of picks to Sac town, but I don't like giving up Fox, who is their future. Having none of these picks purvey in this year's draft just adds to the Kings saying no.

20 Apr 2018 15:37:44
TB, you're 100% correct, but if you look through the first part, the Celtics aren't giving up a pick. This would be if the LA pick winds up at 2-3 this year meaning the Celtics get it, and likely one of Ayton, Bagley or Doncic. If that happens, that Sacramento pick is Philly's so they would be the ones giving it and Bayless up for Buddy. You can definitely argue if that's worth it for Philly though.

19 Apr 2018 10:16:32
Boston: Leonard+Adebayo+Olynyk

Miami: Hayward

Spurs:Tatum+ Waiters

19 Apr 2018 13:09:23
Tatum's a good start, but Spurs are going to want more than him and an overpaid Waiters in return.

19 Apr 2018 14:43:07
I don't see why Miami would be needed here. The Celtics really don't have much of a need for Olynyk and I don't see Bam as the center that Boston wants for the future. I don't think Waiters has much value.

I also don't think that Miami would be very interested in moving Bam. It looks like Whiteside's days in Miami might be coming to an end. He doesn't seem to want to be there and Miami doesn't seem to want him.

The Spurs would want more than just Tatum.

18 Apr 2018 17:21:27
Miami: G Hayward

Boston; Adebayo+Waiters+Olynyk

boston:
C:Adebayo/Baynes/Olynyk
PF:Horford/Morris
Sf:Tatum/ J Brown
SG: Smart/Waiters
PG:Irving/Rozier

Boston get a defensive centre, they can resign and keep Smart.

Miami
C:Whiteside
PF:Johnson
SF:Winslow/
SG:Hayward
PG:Dragic
Sixth: D Wade/ J Richardson

18 Apr 2018 19:30:32
boston is not trading hayward. that is brad stevens son and he only got to coach him for 3 minutes so far.

18 Apr 2018 19:40:11
That trade is just not even close talent wise. Gordon Hayward is a top 20-25 guy in the league, while the other 3 are rotation players. And you must not have seen a single Celtics game if you think Marcus Smart would start over Jaylen Brown.

18 Apr 2018 20:05:45
Maybe if Ainge started doing hard drugs, but it's hard to see that happening.

19 Apr 2018 10:10:59
Comme on, Boston should trade a wing or let Smart go.
I would keep Brown and Tatum and i believe they can sign Smart on a reasonable contract. So they best trade Hayward.

Boston needs a defensive center so Adebayo is a perfect fit for that team. Horford can play PF, shoot threes an pass the ball. And Adebayo can do the dirty work.
Olynyk already knows the house and Waiters already played with Irving. And both players are on reasonable contracts, so they can trade them after this year for other assets.

19 Apr 2018 15:10:28
Why, do the Celtics need a defensive C? That type of player doesn't work for their system. They are never g oing to make a blockbuster trade to get one. If they happen to draft one, or sign a FA for the back end of the roster, fine.

19 Apr 2018 15:18:33
I've never been a huge fan of Heyward and think he's somewhat overrated, but I don't see this being a good trade for the Celtics. Bam's a nice player, but I think they can get a better young center and they already have a ton of depth and will struggle to find enough roster spots for their picks. They need to be packaging assets to get better players rather than the other way around.

17 Apr 2018 01:18:21
So Miami can save money trade whiteside for Deng, Lakers 2020 and cavs pick.

Lakers sign James and George.
Ball
George
Ingram
James
Whiteside
Plus have kuzma fry Hart to lead the bench

17 Apr 2018 10:50:53
I like this for Miami, but i can't see Riley trading for picks.

17 Apr 2018 12:19:06
I assume that's tongue in cheek Gasupo.

17 Apr 2018 01:01:50
Mil - Mia - Was

Mil send: Snell, '20 2nd
Receive: Gortat

Save money to resign Bled and Brogdon in '19, also get a serviceable rebounding big.

Mia send: Whiteside
Receive: Oubre, Pick 15, Mahinmi, '20 2nd x2

Save money and get a quality wing and a solid draft pick for a player whose value is plummeting.

Was send: Gortat, Mahinmi, Oubre, Pick 15, '20 2nd
Receive: Whiteside, Snell

Get out of Mahinmi's contract and get a rebounding/shot blocking C to go with their starting 5.

17 Apr 2018 19:49:31
simplify this to a mia-was trade with the same players moving and mia get gortat and the pick is a protected 19 first.

16 Apr 2018 17:23:57
The Heat get Love, Korver, and Powell plus save 8 million dollars

The Cavs get Whiteside, Winslow, Barnes, Mathews and Barea

The Mavs get Thompson, Jr Smith (buyout),
Clarkson, Zizic, T Johnson, the Brooklyn 8th overall, and 2 Heat 2nd round picks

16 Apr 2018 19:13:57
Rkenne all jokes aside you post like 50 trades a day, yet have no clue about the value of a player. You offer up the same Cavs scrubs in every trade, yet have them get the best players in every trade. The nets pick has no where near the value you think it has. Maybe at the beginning of the season, but not now. This draft is top 6 or 7 heavy.

16 Apr 2018 19:39:01
Who isn't getting what they want here?
The Heat don't want Whiteside and his value is plummeting. They get Love, who can be a legitimate 2nd scorer for them and they give off of Tyler Johnsons bad deal, They also clear up their log jam of young mediocre wings. Plus, they're saving money and getting closer to being under the Luxury tax.

The Cavs get their center, 3 wings who can defend, one of which could be a decent second option for the Cavs.

The Mavs trade in annover paid older shooter in Mathews for a younger one in Johnson, get the 8th pick for Barnes for Barnes, and get some small assets for taking on TT.

16 Apr 2018 20:02:43
Agree with Rkenne. A trade is good if all teams get something they want.

The Heat need to move whiteside, so they can develop Adebayo and they get a good player back. Love-Dragic would be good for a few years.

cleveland get contender ready players back

And the Mavs get the draft pick.

16 Apr 2018 20:22:25
Just because the heat don't want Whiteside doesn't me they're going to take Cleveland's garbage. Love has been on the trade block, and nobody would give up anything of value. You call Winslow a mediocre wing, yet act like osman, zizic, and Clarkson are potential all stars in every trade. Just like every trade you post the Cavs get the top players, and give up the least. Dallas could make this trade and leave Cleveland out of it.

16 Apr 2018 21:08:37
I don’t think any trades can be done until Lebron decides where he is going he changes everything.

16 Apr 2018 21:22:13
Jdp, what does Miami have that the Mavs want? They might want Bam, but Miami isn't giving him up. They may have some interest in Winslow or Richardson. They definitely have no interest in Whiteside or Johnson unless something is attached to him. The Cavs give up 2 of the 4 highest value assets in this trade in Love and the Brooklyn pick. They get back two of the 4 highest value assets in Barnes and Whiteside and out of those 4 Whiteside is clearly the least valuable. His play is slipping, he's disgruntled, Miami doesn't want to play him and he's making the most.

17 Apr 2018 14:28:19
Because rkenne_16 like to be famous neither his post is useless or nonsense it's ok to him.

15 Apr 2018 17:53:30
The Pelicans get Mathews, Richardson, and Winslow

The Heat get Barnes, Thompson, Miller, a Heat 2nd and a Cavs 2nd plus save 12 million dollars

The Mavs get Jr smith (buyout), Mirotic, T Johnson, AjincA(expiring), Diallo(expiring ), Jackson, Zizic and the Pelicans 19 1st top 10 protected

The Cavs get Hill and Whiteside

15 Apr 2018 18:04:03
So the cavs give up Thompson, smith, zizic, and a future 2nd round pick for Hassan whiteside and Solomon hill? Sounds pretty lopsided to me.

15 Apr 2018 19:07:17
Who should the Cavs be giving more to?

15 Apr 2018 23:18:39
I think the heat and mavs are underpaid. If the mavs absorb Tyler Johnson's contract and the heat give up whiteside, Richardson, and Winslow then they are both getting the raw side of the deal.

16 Apr 2018 00:53:18
Her3s another daily lopsided Cleveland trade by rkenne.

16 Apr 2018 02:08:36
Rkenne lmao.

14 Apr 2018 13:22:48
kawhi leonard trade offer

suns receives: kawhi leonard, patty mills

spurs receives: Josh Jackson, Dragan Bender, Tyler Ulis #15 and #17 pick (via miami and via bucks)

or

timberwolves receives: kawhi leonard, patty mills

spurs receives: tyus jones, justin patton, andrew wiggins and #23 (via thunder)

or

knicks receive: kawhi leonard

spurs receives: courtney lee, lance thomas, frank ntilikina #9 #37 (from knicks) and knicks 2019 1st rd pk lottery protected

what team leonard landed if not to celtics lakers and 76ers what to knicks, wolves and suns

14 Apr 2018 15:17:28
knicks trade can't happen. if the knicks trade the #9 pick this year, they can't trade their #1 next year, lottery protected or not. can't be without a #1 pick in consecutive years according to the rules.

14 Apr 2018 16:07:15
The 1st one is decent if the Suns want to roll the dice on an expiring Kawhi.

The 2nd isn't enough for the Spurs. I don't see the Spurs valuing Wiggins. Especially, now that he's going to be making north of 25 million. The pick and Jones are decent assets, but not enough to get Kawhi

I don't think the third is enough either. I think they would want more than 2 good assets, a future late pick and some savings.

It's funny that on a Kawhi trade I made yesterday giving up 2 Lottery picks, 3 propsects that are only like half a step down from Ntilikina, more savings for the Spurs plus 2 future 1sts, a high 2nd and 2 potetial pick swaps, you said that wasn't enough for Leonard, but then you offer up these trades. The only trade that you could even argue gives more is the Phoenix trade and that's only if you're really high on Jackson.

14 Apr 2018 16:31:42
The pick belongs to the Bucks because it fell into the protection slot for the Bucks.

14 Apr 2018 16:45:24
PHX doesn't have the Bucks pick. It was protected, and stays with the Bucks this season.

14 Apr 2018 19:38:43
What team does Kawhi want to go to because he is just a rental otherwise can’t see him staying in Phoenix.

14 Apr 2018 20:29:50
Chriss, ulis, Miami first, + either bucks future first, or Miami future first.

12 Apr 2018 23:55:16
The Cavs get Sefolosha, Richardson, Dragic, and Whiteside

The Jazz get James Johnson, Waiters, and the Cavs 2023 1st top 10 protected

The Heat get Alec Burk(exp), Jerebko (exp), Thompson, Clarkson, Zizic, Jr Smith(buyout), Korver (buyout), the Brooklyn 1st, and the Cavs 2021 1st plus they save 11 million this summer and 45 million next summer.

The Cavs get a real center, a 3rd scoring option and 2 good 3 and d wings at the expense of the future and luxury tax

The Jazz can let Favors walk as they get Johnson, who's a much better fit next to Gobert. They add some much needed offense in Waiters. They lose Sefolosha, but they've been fine with out him this season and it seemed like they were ready to let Burks walk any way. They also end up with a 1st.

Miami gets to clear out some wings, clear the books, stay away from luxury tax, cash in on their older players and start moving to a more sustainable direction.

13 Apr 2018 00:31:52
Not going to lie. Stopped reading the second I saw top 10 protected on a pick 5 years away. No one has interest in that.

13 Apr 2018 01:09:23
Burger u miss read it its 2033.

13 Apr 2018 04:21:10
There is no way the heat trade 5 of their best 7 players for expiring contracts and a couple of 1st round picks, one of which is years down the road.

13 Apr 2018 07:32:22
Terrible for the Jazz. Waiters is over-rated. Rubio is better, and so is Mitchell, and Exum. Favors is younger than Johnson. Junk protected 5 year away pick.

13 Apr 2018 18:27:24
This rkenne16 is a joke lol. Cabs have not but the Brooklyn pick which is 8th. Yur not getting Whiteside, and dragic for the 8th pick.

12 Apr 2018 21:17:37
Making Phoenix monster
Trade 1
Phoenix gets Lamb and Walker

The Hornets get Knight, The Miami 18 and 21 1sts, the Bucks 18 1st plus save 5 million

Trade 2
The Spurs get Chandler(exp), Jackson, Williams, Ullis, the Pheonix likely 1st overall and 2 Suns 2nds plus they save 4 million this year

The Suns get Kawhi and Green

Trade 3
George opts in to be traded

The Thunder get Lamb and Warren

Suns get George

Trade 4

The Pistons get Dudley(expiring), Bender, Daniels, Chris, and a 2020 phx 1st

Resign Peyton

Sign Dedmond for half the MLE and the other half on Kyle Anderson

Sign Illyasova, Calderon, Frye, and Deandre Liggins

Walker/Payton/Calderon
Booker/Green
George/ Anderson/ Liggins
Leonard/ Illyasova
Drummond/Dedmond/Frye

13 Apr 2018 18:31:58
You have the Cavs getting leaned for the 8th pick, yet have Phoenix giving up the 1st overall, plus Jackson and 2 2nds along with ulis. Jackson has more value then anyone on the Cavs besides lebron.

12 Apr 2018 19:45:37
The Cavs gets Whiteside, Richardson, Olynyk, Danny Green, and Dejounte Murray

The Spurs get Dragic, Barnes and Osman

The Heat get Gasol(buyout), Korver(buyout), JrSmith (Buyout), Clarkson, Nance, 18 Brooklyn 1st, and the Spurs 2020
plus 29 in savings this season and almost 60 the season after.

The Mavs get Thompson, Mills, Zizic, the Spurs 18 1st, the Cavs 2021and a 2nd from each team


The Spurs add two borderline allstars, get a legitimate starting pg, and end up with Osman, who can replace Green. They build a team that would be really dangerous, if they can bring back a healthy Kawhi and the only thing of value they give up is 2 late 1sts and Dejounte Murray.

The Cavs add a real center, another big that can shoot, 2 3 and D wings, plus a defensive minded center. The team will be extremely expensive and they give up most of the future, but putting a ton of shooters and a team that should be really good on defense around Lebron should give them a title chance.

The Heat are in a weird spot. The bulk of their team is young except Dragic who is their best player and their 2nd best player is disgruntled and may be replaced by a rookie in a few years, who he's already loosing time to. They have a ton of solid young wings that it will be hard to find time for all of, they're going to be in the luxury next year, they're a mediocre team with out a ton of upside and they're missing 2 of their next 4 1sts. This trade gives them the chance to sell high on Dragic, get rid of Whiteside before he becomes to much of a problem, open up significant cap space next summer, and add young talent/picks. They take a step back next year, but probably 2 steps forward the year after with back to back lottery picks and they ability to open up a max contract.

The Mavs add some young talent and picks for use of their cap space. I don't think Barnes is part of their long term future and his loss will just help them tank a little more next year.

12 Apr 2018 20:23:25
I don't like what the Spurs get in return. Osman doesn't have the visible upside Murray has, and Dragic, and Barnes are arguably just as overpaid as some claim Mills, and Gasol are. 2 1sts, and a 2nd too. It looks like a poor value return.

12 Apr 2018 20:48:25
You make a lot of valid points, but you're overvaluing Barnes. Maybe add a bit more to the Spurs and its a go. Your assessment of the Miami situation is spot-on though.

12 Apr 2018 21:30:46
Maybe take the Spurs 2nd and Zizic away from the Mavs, then give Zizic to the Heat and Nance to the Spurs?

12 Apr 2018 21:55:12
Jorga, I can see where you can argue Murray over Osman, but I see them as similiar caliber prospects and the Spurs actively tried to trade for Cedi over the Summer. I think since they add a starting pg here, lose their 3 and D guy and Anderson hitting free agency this year, Osman might be a more valuable prospect for them. Murray probably wouldn't see a ton of playing time at point over Dragic and Parker with his shooting struggles, I'm not sure how much he can move over to the 2. Osman can play either wing and the 4 in certain lineups. Plus, I think Pop could turn him into one of the better wing defenders in the league and make him a dangerous offensive player. His game and raw skill set just seem tailor made for Pop to mold.

You can argue that Barnes is overpaid, but he's already proven he can be a good 2 way 3rd option on an elite team. Plus, he's still young enough for Pop to coach up. He would be the 2nd option for them on offense right now with Kawhi out.

Dragic isn't overpaid. He's a borderline allstar year in and year out and can do everything you would hope your pg can plus he can play off the ball and he's a decent defender. He's only making 17 million this year. Compare that to the Spurs part time pg, Mills who's making 10 million on a 4 year deal and isn't a starting pg.

Gasol looks completely done and is slated to make 16 million next year. Green can still play, but there have been rumblings he's unhappy with his role and they should try to get something out of him before he walks and as long as you have that team with Leonard, those picks will be in the Late 20s.

13 Apr 2018 04:04:56
10pts, 8rbd, 3ast, 1blk is not bad in 23.5 minutes for Gasol. Would S. A. Rather have a younger guy? Undoubtedly, yes. He may retire in the off season. They are nearing their rebuild, and I would find a deal to add Cedi for his value as a 9-11 man off the bench, young, with future potential, and not trade my 21 year old starting PG in the process. Barnes is not a good start due to his salary, and position, (Gay, Leonard) and the same thing for Dragic, and his age, and salary. S. A. Is going to rebuild eventually, I don't think this deal is good for them. Not my intention to offend, but that appears to have already happened long ago.

10 Apr 2018 22:36:08
Phoenix Suns Offseason:

Trade:
- 2018 1st (Probably #1 Pick), Josh Jackson and Tyson Chandler (Waive) for Kawhi Leonard

- 2018 1st (Via Bucks), 2018 1st (Via Miami), Chriss, Jared Dudley (Waive) for Kemba Walker and Jeremy Lamb

Sign:
- Lebron James - 3yrs/100M
- Deandre Jordan - 2yrs/50M

Team:
PG - Walker, Payton
SG - Booker, Lamb
SF - Leonard, Warren
PF - Lebron, Williams
C - Jordan, Bender

11 Apr 2018 00:17:20
im spurs fan i like spurs and i like leonard but i leonard demand trade i have nothing to do to stop leonard to leave my fav team and i think but team good for trade suns 2018 1st rd pk (probably #1 pk) and josh jackson, tyson chandler (waive) for kawhi leonard i agree because spurs can draft deandre ayton the david robinson comparison and josh jackson is kawhi leonard comparison when he is notable to draft last year good trade for both team.

11 Apr 2018 17:27:29
Not happening way to much to give up for 1 year of Leonard. Warren and 1 of Miami's picks and the bucks 1st is the max. If Leonard was on a longer deal he'd be worth more, but no one knows when he will be back.

 
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