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17 Jan 2017 20:29:32
Chi-mia-okc-sac

Chicago gets: kanter, Dragic, gay, mcroberts

Miami gets: rondo, koufos, mirotic, morrow

OKC gets: Butler, Lopez, Lawson, McLemore

Sacramento gets: payne, singler, D. Williams, Ellington

Throw some picks in for Miami

17 Jan 2017 23:28:10
IDK who the hell OKC give to get Butler and Lopez. lol

18 Jan 2017 00:54:32
lol kanter and maybe one or two scrubs. Absolutely amazing.

17 Jan 2017 13:00:03
Miami-Orlando

Orlando gets Goran Dragic

Miami gets CJ Watson, Aaron Gordon, Mario Hezonja and a 2017 ORL 1st

17 Jan 2017 13:27:01
I wouldn't give that much for Dragic, Aaron Gordon straight swap

17 Jan 2017 14:58:15
Doesn't work money wise. But dragic is definitely not worth three first in the last couple years.

17 Jan 2017 15:43:31
Haha for dragic? Really? You guys do realize he's terrible right?

17 Jan 2017 17:22:59
Tre. At some point you should watch basketball. Terrible? Really?

Is he worth 3 lottery picks? No. Is he an above average starting pg in this league? Yup

Terrible. Seriously.

17 Jan 2017 18:16:05
19pts, 6.5 assists, 4 rebounds, 45% fg, 40% 3pt

Quite terrible, eh tre?

17 Jan 2017 20:38:12
Seriously hamburger.

Have you watched dragic play? He is he at all close to being an impact player. No. He's not worth jack in my mind. Older guy. Never been very good. Look dragic ona team where someone has to score. He has the ball a lot but is not a good player. Mcw put up similar numbers on the sixers in his rookie deal. Doesn't make him a good player. Be lucky to get a late first from a contender looking for a back up.

Btw pizza. Melo is the same damn thing except worse. Longer contract older and a ball hog worse then Kobe. Enjoy mediocrity knick fans. Like I told would happen from the damn start!

18 Jan 2017 00:58:53
Lol so bitter and so oblivious. Watch the sport then talk. But hen again, this is the same guy who said he wouldn't do okafor for McCollum because okafor is elite talent. And I guess McCollum is too old and doesn't score enough? Or perhaps he doesn't play defense? Oh wait. That's okafor.

Never mind. You just don't watch basketball lol. Awesome.

17 Jan 2017 03:51:00
BOS/ MIN

BOS receive: N. Pekovic, A. Wiggins, K. Towns

MIN receive: A. Johnson, T. Zeller, J. Crowder, J. Young, BKN 2017&2018 1st rd picks, LAC&MEM 2019 1st rd picks, CLE&LAC 2017 2nd rd picks, DET 2019 2nd rd pick, MIA 2020 2nd rd pick

17 Jan 2017 05:38:14
Lol good one

17 Jan 2017 06:04:44
Terrible deal for MIN no matter what BOS gives.

17 Jan 2017 08:07:44
You my friend have a wild imagination. MIN trading Wiggins could be possible if a star was coming back in return. But trading KAT?!?! Let alone Towns and Wiggins? That's ludacris.

17 Jan 2017 12:02:19
KAT from a trade value perspective is probably the most valuable player in the league when you factor in his current production, age, contract, position and potential. Wiggins at only 21 is one of the top prospects in the league as well. I think a Wiggins trade is possible (although not probable) but don't see Twolves dealing KAT for anything.

It also doesn't really make sense to trade a young guys with once in a decade talent for draft picks who could turn into nothing . I could see dealing them for a more established player if you want to be competitive sooner but dealing them for more draft picks just sets the team back further and runs the risk of drafting an inferior player.

17 Jan 2017 13:30:59
This is one of those 2K trades lol No way Timberwolves are open to trading away KAT and Wiggins

17 Jan 2017 14:44:32
Everything Jaw said. Why trade a second year superstar for picks? They have the young talent, and it's improving.

17 Jan 2017 14:50:56
I'm a Celtic's fan. there's no way Minny does this. I wish but no way

17 Jan 2017 15:50:53
Hahahaha okay. Since we're going crazy here.

If I'm minny I'd give you lavine and Wiggins and Dunn for that package. Towns is a transcendent player and you simply don't trade them away for draft picks.

That being said Celtics could actually do the same deal for Wiggins Dunn and lavine and be a much better team in the future.

17 Jan 2017 02:12:37
Heat get Griffin Noah Rose
Knicks get W. Johnson Whiteside Dragic
Clippers get Melo Vujacic

Dragic/ Jennings/ Randle
Lee/ Holiday/ Baker
W. Johnson/ Thomas/ Kuzminskas
Porzingis/ O'Quinn/ Ndour
Whiteside/ Plumlee/ Hernangomez

16 Jan 2017 20:08:09
Miami Heat 2017-18

Trade Dragic to the Kings for Rudy Gay and Skal Labissiere

Draft: Malik Monk

Cut Chris Bosh

Free Agency
- Derrick Rose 4yr/ Max
- Amir Johnson 1yr/ 8m

PG - Rose/ T. Johnson/ J. Richardson
SG - Waiters/ Malik Monk/ Ellington
SF - Rudy Gay/ J. Winslow/ J. Johnson
PF - McRoberts/ Reed/ Labissiere
C - Whiteside/ A. Johnson

16 Jan 2017 21:04:10
No way should Rose ever get the max, especially for 4 years

17 Jan 2017 00:27:51
Why would you want to give rose a 4 year max? Insanity, 1 maybe 1+1 team, but 4 years at the max? Are you a secret heat hater?

17 Jan 2017 02:58:44
The trade is good, but why in god's green earth would you want to sign Rose to a four year max deal?

16 Jan 2017 19:53:36
Knicks get W. Johnson Crowder Whiteside McRoberts Ellington Smart
Celtics get Griffin Holiday Plumlee
Clippers get Melo Vujacic
Heat get Johnson Rose Ndour NY 2017

Smart/ Randle/ Jennings
Lee/ Baker/ Ellington
Crowder/ W. Johnson/ Thomas
Porzingis/ Kuzminskas/ McRoberts
Whiteside/ O'Quinn/ Hernangomez

17 Jan 2017 00:15:17
No way Knicks get that much for Melo.

16 Jan 2017 07:29:21
Knicks-Heat-Clippers

Knicks receive Whiteside

Heat receive Blake Griffin

Clippers receive Carmelo Anthony

16 Jan 2017 09:54:26
If I'm the Clippers I don't think I'd give up Griffin for Melo even with the chance of losing him in FA. If I'm LA I'd be trying to do everything in my power to get Melo without giving up one of their big 3. The Heat would probably prefer having Whiteside under contract instead of Griffin being a FA.

16 Jan 2017 10:09:38
Clippers don't have any interest trading Griffin away

16 Jan 2017 13:23:52
Whiteside adds to an ugly glut of Centers for the Knicks. Adding him basically makes Noah an untradable pine warmer for three years.

16 Jan 2017 00:44:27
Miami gets: Al Horford, Terry Rozier, 2017 first round pick via Brooklyn

Boston gets: Goran Dragic, Justise Winslow, Luke Babbitt, 2018 second round pick

Miami
PG- Richardson/ Rozier
SG- Waiters/ T. Johnson/ Ellington
SF- McGruder/ J. Johnson/ Williams
PF- Horford/ Babbitt/ Haslem
C- Whiteside/ Reed


Boston
PG- Thomas/ Smart/ Jackson
SG- Dragic/ Green
SF- Bradley/ Brown/ Young
PF- Crowder/ Jerebko/ Mickey
C- Johnson/ Zeller/ Olynyk

16 Jan 2017 03:08:30
Um, Bradley is 6-2. No way he is playing SF.

And I don't think Boston gives up a Brooklyn pick for a player where they are already pretty set at.

16 Jan 2017 03:21:30
That would be an interesting lineup for Boston, with two point guards, a 6-2 small forward and a 6-5 power forward.

16 Jan 2017 10:13:12
Boston ain't trading Al Horford

17 Jan 2017 23:38:10
u must b a giant Miami fan and or must hate Boston. Miami gets all that for Goran Dragic, Justise Winslow, and throw-ins. not even for whitehead.

15 Jan 2017 04:02:46
Miami gets: Al Horford, Terry Rozier, 1st round pick 2017 via brooklyn

Boston gets: Goran Dragic, Justise Winslow, Luke Babbitt, 2nd round pick 2017 (2)

15 Jan 2017 09:46:36
That's a shocker, dragic is getting old and overpaid, winslow is out for the year, Luke Babbitt and a second is not equal value to a potential #1 pick, rosier AND al Horford, be realistic

15 Jan 2017 15:17:29
Trade makes no sense from a value, fit or direction either team is going perspective.

15 Jan 2017 19:31:42
Boston takes it if Whiteside comes with the rest of the return. If not, there would be no interest from the C's.

15 Jan 2017 19:31:42
Boston takes it if Whiteside comes with the rest of the return. If not, there would be no interest from the C's.

15 Jan 2017 01:13:56
Bulls trade heat

Bulls get whiteside

Heat gets Lopez, portis, bulls 1rst round pick 2017 and kings top 10 protected pick

Bulls starting

MCW, rondo, grant, canaan
Wade, valentine, m McDermott
Butler, mcdermout, zipster
Gibson, mirotic, zipser
Whiteside, felicio

Have rondo play with the shooters
Bulls defense should be better with scoring downlow

15 Jan 2017 15:20:12
Whiteside would definitely improve the Bulls team and I think that is solid value for the Heat with two firsts, a solid prospect in Portis and a starting caliber center in Lopez but I don't think Bulls are good enough to justify this type of move.

Even with Whiteside I don't see them getting out of the east and not a lock to even make the conference finals. They are giving up an awful lot of their future, still don't have much at point guard slot and Wade isn't getting any younger.

16 Jan 2017 00:30:04
Bulls need shooting and Whiteside is the star of the Heat he's untouchable

14 Jan 2017 23:02:36
Miami get: T. Chandler B. Knight

PHX get: H. Whiteside

15 Jan 2017 07:35:21
Sounds good to me for Suns!

15 Jan 2017 13:28:11
I thinks suns should get more. I mean Brandon knight. That's a superstar right there. And chandler may be one of the best signings in history.

14 Jan 2017 17:53:15
Miami sends N Vucevic to Boston

Boston sends T Rozier, J Young, A Johnson to Miami

14 Jan 2017 19:42:38
U mean orlando?

14 Jan 2017 19:52:45
Orlando has Vucevic not Miami and I think Boston would have to add more maybe one of the 2019 firsts or their 2018 first to make it work. Don't really like the fit of Vucevic as an offensive center but he is an alright rebounder.

14 Jan 2017 20:37:38
yes I did. sorry

13 Jan 2017 19:54:55
Heat/ Suns

Knight, Chandler, Mia 2018 first back

Whiteside

Suns get one of the leagues best big men

Mia can continue To tank this year and trade Dragic for assets and don't have worry about tanking next year and not having a pick. They will have 2 top 3 picks and a good core to build around

13 Jan 2017 22:37:22
Not bad. Whiteside is young and could fit well with youth movement in PHX.

13 Jan 2017 19:35:36
heat : payton, gordon
magic : dragic, mcroberts

13 Jan 2017 23:26:25
I like this trade for Miami, but why would the Magic do this?

Orlando would want Winslow, if they trade A Gordon

13 Jan 2017 17:33:54
Sac: Hayward+ Dragic+Turner

Utah: McCollum+ Plumlee

Miami: R Gay+Collison+Labisierre 1rnd pick Sac+ 1rnd pick Utah

Portland: WC Stein+ Winslow+afflalo

Sacramento receive two players that should bring Sacramento and Cousins into the playoffs

Utah receive an All star level replacement for Hayward, that's locked in for 5years.

Miami receive capspace a young talent and two draft picks so they can rebuilt

Portland get younger and receive more capspace so they can built a team arround Lillard

13 Jan 2017 18:59:45
Portland laughs at this. not reading the rest

13 Jan 2017 19:55:06
Maybe replace stein with Whiteside and Portland considers it. As it sits, plumlee>>stein, turner>afflalo, McCollum >>>>>>>>>>>>Winslow

14 Jan 2017 04:58:08
Seeing as Portland was the last one. You literally read everything. Great comment Simmons.

12 Jan 2017 02:34:33
celtics get whiteside

heat get smart jerekbo johnson and nets 2017 pick

12 Jan 2017 10:34:48
Celtics don't trade Nets Pick for Whiteside. Take the Celtics Pick. in 2018 and the Memphis Pick 2019. that's ok

12 Jan 2017 13:52:13
Hard to evaluate Whiteside's value because:
1. Stats on bad teams are often misleading.
2. Reports that he dogs it sometimes. Dave Cowens he's not.
Inclined to agree with HarryCeltic on this one.

12 Jan 2017 15:43:58
The same could be said about Cousins Supercollider. He doesn't play every play (especially on defense in the case of cousins) . Cousins puts up monster numbers, but has won 30 games all of once. At least Whiteside has been on a playoff team.

Whiteside is still averaging 18, 14, and 2.2 blocks. There's an enormous demand for him. And he's locked in long term. If Boston wants him, they'll have to offer a nets pick.

12 Jan 2017 18:31:49
Celtics and thier fans on here need to decide whether they are trying to win now or later. If the answers now the you 100 percent should be trading the bkn pick for whiteside. if it's a long term view then they might as well trade IT now.

Having it both ways isn't possible when you don't have a superstar core already. That Jalen Brown pick should have been traded at the draft for someone who could actually help them.

12 Jan 2017 19:22:23
About right value.

12 Jan 2017 02:32:10
Celtics get Butler Plumlee Vujacic
Heat get Rose Gibson Jerebko J. Brown NY 2017
Knicks get Crowder Whiteside McRoberts Rondo
Bulls get Dragic Melo Ndour Nets 2017

Now better than Raptors
Thomas/ Rozier/ Jackson
Bradley/ Smart/ Vujacic
Butler/ Green/ Young
Harford/ Olynyk/ Mickey
Johnson/ Zeller/ Plumlee

Clear all big contract 2018
Rose/ Johnson/ McGruder
Waiters/ Ellington/ Winslow
Richardson/ Brown/ Babbitt
Johnson/ Jerebko/ D-Will
Gibson/ Reed/ Haslem

Build a defensive team great fit for triangle
Rondo/ Jennings/ Randle
Lee/ Holiday/ Baker
Crowder/ Thomas/ Kuzminskas
Porzingis/ O'Quinn/ McRoberts
Whiteside/ Noah/ Hernangomez

Bulls build future still playoff team
Dragic/ MCW/ Canaan
Wade/ Valentines/ Grant
Melo/ McDermott/ Zipser
Mirotic/ Ndour
Lopez/ Portis/ Felicio

12 Jan 2017 13:55:12
Butler is awesome, but if Boston is going to give up all that plus the Nets pick (maybe No. 1 overall), they have to improve their pathetic frontcourt.

12 Jan 2017 02:11:47
Was playing around with the Trade Machine today and found probably one of the best deals for both teams.

Toronto gets: Hassan Whiteside, Derrick Williams, 2019 2nd.

Miami gets: Jonas Valanciunas, Delon Wright, and DeMarre Carroll, 2019 2nd.

Miami releases Luke Babbitt
Toronto signs Lance Stephenson.

Lowry/ Joseph/ VanVleet
DeRozan/ Powell
Ross/ Stephenson/ Williams/ Caboclo
Patterson/ Siakim/ Sullinger
Whiteside/ Poeltl/ Nogiuera

Dragic/ Johnson/ Wright
Richardson/ Waiters/ Ellington/ McGruder
Carroll/ Winslow
Bosh/ J. Johnson/ McRoberts
Valanciunas/ Reed/ Haslem

Miami can still rebuild while acquiring a starting center that is 3 years younger, a prospect point guard, and a veteran small forward to put up decent numbers and mentor their younger players (Justise Winslow, Josh Richardson) .

On the other hand, the Toronto Raptors can actually have a chance at beating Cleveland by picking up an all-star caliber center that is already developed instead of waiting for Valanciunas to progress over the years. They also recieve Derrick Williams who can help back up Terrence Ross because DeMarre is gone.

12 Jan 2017 06:50:21
MIA would probably ask for a 1st round pick if they are to trade Whiteside

12 Jan 2017 14:18:33
Would you think it would work if I gave another 2nd and a first to Miami?

12 Jan 2017 18:35:37
Miami gains nothing from doing this deal and is trading the best player by far

12 Jan 2017 01:28:03
Bulls trade heat

Heat gets B. Lopez, B. Portis, D. valentine, rondo, and bulls 1rst round pick 2017

Bulls get Whiteside and waiters

12 Jan 2017 18:39:51
These are my least favorite trade scenarios. All the guys that can't play on our team for your best player.

11 Jan 2017 19:39:47
Heat-Celtics

Heat get A. Johnson, J. Crowder, J. Young, 2017 Nets pick and future 2nd rd.

Celtics get Whiteside and future 2nd rd.

11 Jan 2017 20:08:41
The 2017 pick is a swap with the nets and Miami might be so bad that it would not want to swap. I would do the deal if it was the 2018 nets pick

11 Jan 2017 20:39:53
The swap is with Boston, even if they trade it. It doesn't move to being a swap between Miami and Brooklyn. Miami would have their own pick, and their option of Boston or brooklyns pick.

11 Jan 2017 23:33:26
No way is whites side worth that nets pick!
A top 3 probable pick in this stacked draft is worth more imo

 
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