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26 Sep 2016 15:03:11
Philly- Minny- bucks

Philly: Shabazz+ MCW+ Vaughn+ 1rnd pick Minny

Wolves: Noel+ Monroe

Bucks: Rubio+ Pekovic+ 2rnd pick NO+ 2rnd pick Miami.

26 Sep 2016 16:11:15
Why would Minnesota want 2 more bigs? Even after KGs retirement and Pek missing the year, they still have 6 bigs.

26 Sep 2016 16:41:58
why would wolves trade for Monroe.

26 Sep 2016 17:00:40
Only problem is I don't see why the wolves need Noel and Monroe when they have towns already.

26 Sep 2016 19:11:37
Minny has to many biggs indeed, but I like the combo Noel- KAT
The only reason i trade Monroe for Pekovic is the cap. 5The Bucks can't trade for Rubio without trading Monroe)

The bucks can use Rubio
And the Sixers need guards.

So i think this could work

Maybe Monroe could go to NO And T Evans to Philly

Philly: Shabazz+ Vaugn+ MCW+ Evans
Minny: Noel
Bucks: Pekovic+ Rubio+ 2rnd pick Miami and NO
NO: Monroe.

27 Sep 2016 00:35:15
Philly Minny bucks

Philly gets Levine shabazz mcw

Minny gets n statakaus Philly 2nd and Covington Monroe

Bucks get Noel Rubio Philly 2nd Minny 2nd.

09 Sep 2016 16:49:38
Nets Get: Chris Bosh

PG: Jeremy Lin
SG: Sean Kilpatrick
SF: Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
PF: Chris Bosh
C: Brook Lopez

Heat Get: Bojan Bogdanovic, Richaun Holmes

PG: Goran Dragic
SG: Josh Richardson
SF: Justice Winslow
PF: Derrick Williams
C: Hassan Whiteside

76ers Get: Isaiah Whitehead

PG: Jerryd Bayless
SG: Isaiah Whitehead
SF: Ben Simmons
PF: Nerlens Noel
C: Jahlil Okafor


Chris Bosh, when healthy, is still an elite player in the NBA. However, with recent health issues and an impasse with the Miami Heat organization regarding whether or not he can play again, there have been trade rumors surrounding Bosh. In this deal, Brooklyn take a chance on Bosh's health without giving up a major return. Brooklyn are in a state of their rebuild where taking risks on players is exactly what they should be doing. Miami get a minimal return for Bosh, but the return is more than they would get if Bosh were to retire. Philadelphia are able to flip a big man that's unlikely to get meaningful minutes for a guard that can start.

09 Sep 2016 17:54:47
Made this trade before.
Brooklyn is a great fit for Bosh.

10 Sep 2016 15:55:26
nice try HEAT FAN. if anything Bojan Bogdanovic would go to the Sixers.

01 Sep 2016 17:31:38
Raptors bring back bosh with a trade


Raptors get Bosh and Mc'Roberts

Heat's get Patterson potle Ross.


Raptors get a vet in bosh and a good back up

Then trade someone else for a back up wing or bring in Ejim from overseas.

01 Sep 2016 18:25:34
Raptors say no.

01 Sep 2016 21:36:28
Way too much for a guy who's had blood clots twice. I think he still has a blood clot (could be wrong) and could be sitting on the couch as we speak.

31 Aug 2016 00:32:05
Miami-Dallas-Milwaukee

Miami: Maker+ Monroe

Dall: C Bosh+ J Richardson

Milwaukee: W Matthews+ Powell.

31 Aug 2016 02:18:58
Take out maker and Powell.

31 Aug 2016 02:31:52
Bucks say heck no

31 Aug 2016 03:43:45
No team is giving up anything for Bosh until they know he can play.

31 Aug 2016 04:25:12
At this point I don't think anybody will give up anything for Chris Bosh until more is known about how he stands from a health perspective.

Assuming Bosh is healthy and there are no long term effects of his health issues this would be a complete steal for Dallas value wise although the fit of Bosh and Dirk would be a little awkward in the short term (Dirk is nearing retirement) . Although value isn't terrible for Milwaukee and Matthews would be a great wing addition (although he wasn't himself last season I think he'll be better further removed from achilles injury) I wouldn't do it if I was Milwaukee. Powell doesn't strike me as anything special and seems like a guy who can just give you energy off the bench but isn't really great offensively or defensively. I much prefer to have Monroe who may not be a great fit for Bucks but is still young and has adept offensive and rebounding abilities and Maker who is very young and promising. I think he showed enough promise in summer league that it would be foolish for Bucks to trade him without trying him out more cause given his skill set the sky is the limit for him (Bucks obviously feel strongly about him given where they drafted him, well above where many ranked him)

For Miami I don't think Monroe would be a good compliment to Whiteside as he couldn't coexist really with Drummond who is similar in play style to Whiteside. Maker would obviously be an attractive piece as well. I'd much prefer a healthy Bosh however for that team since given the South Beach allure and if they had Whiteside, a healthy Bosh, and Dragic they could attract free agents and quickly become a contender again.

30 Aug 2016 14:20:33
Miami- Nets

Miami: Bogdanovic+Scola+ Vasquez
Nets: Bosh+ swap rights with the Boston pick+2018 pick (iff falls in 1-7) or 2019 unprotected pick.

Miami clear capspace
The Nets receive picks and have something that's close to having a future.
If Bosh can stay healty, the combo B Lopez+ Bosh could be good.

30 Aug 2016 15:24:00
No from miami w
no need to give up picks.

31 Aug 2016 03:52:01
To move Bosh, who may never play again, and get something for him, you're going to need to include picks.

31 Aug 2016 05:12:27
If Bosh is healthy I don't think Heat trade him and if he isn't I don't think he holds any value and a team wouldn't give up assets for him. That is an awful return for a healthy Bosh and if he isn't healthy that is awful compensation for taking a guy owed over 75 million over next 3 years and isn't guaranteed to play ever again.

I'm not certain how a players contract impacts cap if they retire but that will largely dictate the Heats moves going forward.

27 Aug 2016 15:19:08
Nuggets-Heat

Nuggets get Chris Bosh

Heat get Kenneth Faried, Joffrey Lauvergne, and a 2nd rd pick.

28 Aug 2016 11:13:05
Sure, because the Nuggets are in the deal of trading talent for players who cannot play.

28 Aug 2016 16:49:02
No Bosh trades should be posted until we know he can play this season. I wouldn't give up a bag of Basketballs for him right now.

22 Aug 2016 20:02:07
Suns Get: DeMarcus Cousins, Kosta Koufos, Omri Casspi

Kings Get: Brandon Knight, Alex Len, Dragan Bender, 2017 Suns 1st, 2018 Heat 1st, 2019 Suns 1st


Bledsoe/ Barbosa/ Ulis
Booker/ Goodwin/ Jenkins
Warren/ Casspi/ Tucker
Chriss/ Dudley/ Williams
Cousins/ Chandler/ Koufos

Knight/ Collison/ Temple
McLemore/ Richardson/ Patterson
Gay/ Afflalo/ Barnes
Bender/ Skal/ Tolliver
Cauley-Stein/ Len/ Papagiannis.

22 Aug 2016 20:53:21
I like the trade except for the Suns giving up too many draft picks. Also, I think the Kings would want Bledsoe instead of knight.

22 Aug 2016 21:07:14
It is a little draft pick heavy but Suns definitely have the assets to get Cousins and I think he'd be a great fit if they could keep Bledsoe and Booker along with him. My only concern with this deal is that the kings have plenty of bigs already and should be trying to move them for other positions and not adding more bigs but from a value perspective it's good.

23 Aug 2016 02:30:23
The value is right, but i agree with jaw comment about the bigs. leave Caspi with Sac or sub Len with Warren. not sure- but you get the picture.

23 Aug 2016 03:01:51
Tht PHX starting lineup lookin nice.

26 Aug 2016 05:02:02
Sac gives a bit too much too

22 Aug 2016 18:34:40
Miami is lottery bound and should tank.

Heat/ Rockets

Heat - Capela, Brewer, Beverly, 2017 1st.

Rockets - Dragic, Whiteside.

Miami might give up a lot, but they get 40mil in cap space to chase Curry/ Griffin/ Hayward among other big FAs. Capela/ Winslow/ Richardson is scary on D and a top 5 pick is a solid core moving foward.

Rockets obviously do this. Whiteside/ Anderson/ Ariza/ Harden/ Dragic is a top 5 team in the west.


2017 draft:
Markelle Fultz 3rd
Grayson Allen 22nd

FA:
Buyout Bosh.
Hayward 4 year max
Ibaka 3 year 70mil
Gibson 2 year 18mil
Olynyk 3 years 22mil
Evans 1 year 8mil





Roster:
Fultz/ Johnson
Winslow/ Richardson
Hayward/ Evans
Ibaka/ Gibson
Capela/ Olynyk.

22 Aug 2016 21:10:21
That's awful value for the heat. How do they plan on attracting any talent if they have none themselves? I'd do that offer for just Dragic but adding in whiteside too is outrageous. They aren't getting Curry and Whiteside is almost as good as anybody they could realistically get so it makes a lot more sense to keep him and hope he can help attract someone else.

21 Aug 2016 11:58:23
Bulls-Phoe-sixers

Bulls:
receive: Warren+ Noel+ 1rnd pick Miami 18+ 1rnd pick phoenix 17
trade: Butler+Grant

Phoe:
receive: Butler+ Grant
trade: Warren+ Bledsoe+1rnd pick+ 1rnd pick Miami

sixers:
receive: bledsoe
trade: Noel

Phoe:
C: T Chandler/ Len
PF: Chriss/ Bender
SF: Butler/ Dudley+ Tucker
SG: Booker/ Barbosa
PG: B Knight/ Grant.

21 Aug 2016 15:09:09
Philly and Phoenix say yes, bulls say no.

21 Aug 2016 15:19:49
I Think the Bulls could do this with or without Butler, they're playing for a first round exit. Making money, selling tickets and jerseys from hometown boy D Wade.
The two draft picks give them a future after D Wade.

21 Aug 2016 15:52:08
Philly and Phoenix say yes.

Bulls not getting enough. Sixers would have to include Okafor over Noel.

15 Aug 2016 05:36:01
Minor Deal in December

Wayne Ellington for Devin Harris

Heat get a backup point, Mavs get a shooter since Harris won't be playing much.

08 Aug 2016 18:37:31
heat : gay, collison
kings : dragic, babbitt, mcroberts.

08 Aug 2016 21:09:17
Kings would probably need a draft pick.

09 Aug 2016 00:05:03
If I were the Heat I'd highly consider this deal. Gay gives them much needed scoring after losing Wade (and who knows what's up with Bosh) and Collison isn't a huge downgrade from Dragic. Worst case they free up cap space.

Don't like the deal for the Kings since I think they should be focused on rebuilding and not trick themselves into thinking they can be decent in short term.

06 Aug 2016 14:11:24
Phoe
trade: Len+ Bledsoe+ Warren+ 1rnd pick Miami 18+ 1rnd pick Phoe 17 (top 3 protected)
receive: J Butler

Philly:
trade: Noel
receive: Bledsoe

Bulls:
receive: Warren+ Len+ Noel+ 1rnd pick Phoe+ 1rnd pick Miami 18
trade: J Butler


Phoe:
C: T Chandler/ Bender
PF: Chriss/ Bender
SF: J Butler
SG: Booker
PG: Knight

Bulls
C: Lopez/ Len/ Portis
PF: Noel/ Mirotic/ Portis
SF: Warren/ Snell
SG: D Wade/ Valentine
Pg: Rondo/ Grant.

06 Aug 2016 15:35:44
So, essentially, you tear the Suns apart. and they get Butler? Not a chance. You also show Bender as a center. He'll never play the 5 in the NBA. maybe only situationally at the 4. Suns hang up on this one.

06 Aug 2016 16:25:19
The suns give up some assets, but they receive a star
I think Butler is the perfect fit for Booker.

06 Aug 2016 16:46:57
Similar to my Sixers, I'm not sure there is really anything to "tear apart" with the suns, but agree that is too much just for Butler,

07 Aug 2016 05:23:59
Simmons the suns eill be conteders in 5 years no doubt.

07 Aug 2016 16:14:22
The Suns are trying to go the build with youth route. odds are it won't work the way they hope it will but. if that's what they are doing, then, they do not want or need one near-superstar (like Butler) . or guys no one really wants (Rudy Gay, Monroe) . or a guy who has "his" team and still can't win anything (Cousins) . Now, if they could swing a deal for an Okafor or Noel. sure. but it appears, for better or worse, they're going to go with what they have.

08 Aug 2016 14:22:04
I'm the current NBA you need atleast one superstar to be a contender. When that changes I'll pay mee attention to the suns.

31 Jul 2016 13:52:34
Heat-Suns-Rockets trade by USA revised

Heat get Bledsoe, Ariza, and a 1st rd pick from Rockets

Suns get Winslow and Beverley

Rockets get Dragic, PJ Tucker, and a 2nd rd pick from Suns.

31 Jul 2016 15:37:46
I like it for all teams involved. I think Heat are the clear winners of the deal getting younger and arguably better at pg, a solid affordable role player in Ariza who can slide into Deng role, and a 1st round pick from a Rockets team who I think won't be all that good and may miss playoffs again.

PHX loses their best player in Bledsoe but add a younger player who fills a position of need in Winslow. In moving Tucker they open up minutes for he and Warren to develop and also gain a saavy veteran at pg. I hope Beverley doesn't significantly cut into Ulis' minutes and that they run Knight at sg with reserves to free up more time at pg.

Rockets I don't think are going to do much this year but in Dragic they get a guy who thrived in Houston early in his career and fits D'Antoni's system.

31 Jul 2016 16:39:41
Only if Bosh is cleared playing.
Otherwise they want to keep Winslow.

31 Jul 2016 18:26:16
the rockects didn't miss the playoffs and this would be a bad trade for all three teams that's my opinion.

30 Jul 2016 15:42:33
Suns - Winslow

They land Winslow who is the perfect wing next to Booker, They lose Bledsoe but the future is brighter.

Heat - Bledsoe, return pick, 2 2nd rounders.

Bledsoes contract is an absolute steal, and if Riley could dump Dragic and Bosh ge would have enough cap for 2 max contracts Westbrook, Curry, Griffin, Durant, Hayward, Paul, Millsap, and Lowry on the market plus all the restricted free agents this would allow him to build a quick deep contender.

30 Jul 2016 17:55:47
Wow you really don't value Bledsoe at all.

30 Jul 2016 18:43:15
I don't think the picks are necessary. People forget how good Bledsoe was before his injury. Dude is relatively young, a top 10 pg in the league, a very good defender and on a cheap contract. The only concern is the meniscus injuries are piling up but he didn't seem affected by previous two procedures.

I think a swap could work for both (younger winslow would help but PHX probably prefers Bledsoe over Knight) but Dragic would need to be moved first.

26 Jul 2016 20:15:06
Wolves-Miami

Wolves get Josh Richardson

Heat get Shabazz Muhammad

Wolves get a shooter they need off the bench and the Heat get a guy who could potentially play some PF with Winslow depending on how the Bosh situation plays out.

Not entirely sure on the value of Richardson and I know some people don't think much of Shabazz, but he has shown potential as a scorer and is only 23.

27 Jul 2016 02:28:43
Wolves need to give more. Richardson plays both offense and defense and is a shooter which the Wolves need. Shabazz wasn't very good last year.

27 Jul 2016 05:04:33
I couldn't imagine it would be much more, Richardson isn't amazing on defense, better than Shabazz but that's not saying much.

Shabazz was the better scorer, rebounder, and FT shooter.

Plus I see Shabazz as filling a need for Miami, providing more versatility than Richardson in what roles he can fill. And with Shabazz you know the minimum of what you are getting, Richardson's one year might be a fluke.

27 Jul 2016 05:36:36
Shabazz will also be a free agent next year, the heat would rather have the shooting and the pg/ SG over SF/ PF versatility because at PF they have bosh, mcroberts, Haslem, and Derrick Williams and Luke Babit could play there too. Not to mention they don't have a backup point where Richardson fits. Richardson isn't amazing at defense but very solid.

27 Jul 2016 05:52:23
^but Shabazz they would at least be able to match contracts, Richardson they won't be able to when he is a free agent in a couple of years,

And the only quality PF they have there is Bosh (maybe) and possibly McRoberts, Shabazz would be an upgrade over Williams and amd most likely Babbitt

Plus Tyler Johnson can play point, especially with the Heat signing both Waiters and Ellington.

27 Jul 2016 13:55:56
When did Muhammad become a PF? . he's a 2/ 3.

27 Jul 2016 15:08:24
You're the one who said he could potentially play the 4. I would rather have Derrick Williams over him. It's likely Shabazz will ask for money the Heat aren't willing to match. If Johnson is backup point, it's simple, Richardson is now the 2nd string SG. Ellington is the 5th guard. Heck it wouldn't surprise me if Richardson starts over Waiters in some games.

27 Jul 2016 16:15:25
@SimmonsOrBust, Shabazz is strong enough to play some small ball PF if needed, not sure I would ever call him a 2

And he is definitly better than Derrick Williams.

28 Jul 2016 05:40:49
LOL @ Wolvesfan

Miami would never give up a young more talented Wing WITH DEFENSE for an offense ONLY player.

PLUS, Derrick Williams is a PF/ SF. and i smuch better then Shabazz.

24 Jul 2016 07:51:29
Heat trade Dragic

Rockets trade Brewer Dekker and Bev

Rockets sign Norris Cole

Dragic - Cole
Harden - Gordon
Ariza - McDaniels
Anderson - Harrell
Capela - Nene

Bev - Weber
Richardson - Johnson
Brewer - Dekker - Johnson
Winslow - Williams - Babbitt (Bosh)
Whiteside - Stat.

24 Jul 2016 12:08:57
Maybe the Heat should let Dragic run the team for a year, but this is a good trade if they're going into rebuilt mode.
Maybe Houston should also give a pick.

24 Jul 2016 12:32:33
Seeing so many winslow at pf. He can't play that position full time he can play at some point though.

23 Jul 2016 14:28:53
Boston Gets: Jahlil Okafor

*Boston gets their young star and still has a ton of assets


76ers Get: Goran Dragic, RJ Hunter, Boston 2017 1st rd pick, Detroit 2019 second round pick

*Sixers get real guard play (apologies to jared bayless) under control for the next 4 years


Miami: Amir Johnson, Marcus Smart

*Miami gets a closer/ scorer in Marcus Smart, adds some Bosh insurance with Johnson, who is also another one year deal. The type of contract that Riley has been targeting to perhaps make a splash in next years FA class with a core of:
Smart, Johnson, Winslow, Richardson, Whiteside and potentially Chris Bosh.

23 Jul 2016 15:33:33
Joke right? C's give up Smart, Johnson, Hunter and the 17 Nets Pick ( They have just this Pick, because the Celtics Pick goes to BKN) for Okafor? Danny Ainge can't stop to laugh whenhe reads this.

23 Jul 2016 15:38:06
How does Philly get all of that for Okafor, and that's far too much for the C's to give up.

23 Jul 2016 16:22:22
I didn't realize that the pick would be Brooklyn's as well. I will take my ball and go home now.

22 Jul 2016 09:13:04
Heat if the decide to rebuild

I know 3 different trades is hard to do but here are 3 trades to do a complete rebuild

1. Trade Whiteside to Celtics

Get - Brown, Johnson, Zizic, Bkl 17 1st, Lac 2018 1st

2. Trade Dragic to Bev McDaniels and Harrell

3. Trade Bosh and Richardson to Okc for Oladipo Ilyasova Payne and 18 protected 1st

Draft Harry Giles and Dwyane Bacon

Payne - Bev
Oladipo - Johnson - McDaniels
Brown - Bacon
Winslow - Ilyasova - Harrell
Giles - Zizic.

22 Jul 2016 11:34:55
IMO it's to much for Whiteside
Boston would offer Brown and zigic or the 1rnd pick (swap with Brooklyn)

I believe Rily doesn't let Bosh play this season so he must retire. And he can hit the fee agent market.

22 Jul 2016 13:12:11
No one is trading for Bosh right now.

22 Jul 2016 14:26:39
Gasupo. the President of the organization can't decide to not "let bosh play this season so he must retire. "

If bosh has clearence from credible doctors, the heat can't force him to retire. All they can do is bench him. He can sit back and collect his massive pay checks before retiring and losing that money.

21 Jul 2016 16:13:04
SAC: Rudy Gay
2017 2nd Round Pick

MIA: Josh Richardson
2018 1st Round Pick (Top 14 Protected)

21 Jul 2016 17:27:56
I would think with the way the Kings are just trying to get rid of Gay that the Heat wouldn't need to include the first. With that said, the Heat wouldn't be able to take on Gay's contract I don't believe.

21 Jul 2016 17:41:16
Miami says no. Richardson is on super cheap contract and probably has more value than Gay because of his youth.

21 Jul 2016 18:03:23
Maybe something like
Heat get Rudy Gay and Skal Labissiere
Kings get Josh Richardson and Josh McRoberts.

21 Jul 2016 21:47:02
Heat would say no to Richardson for Gay so this is not even close.

24 Jul 2016 04:22:51
Wrong Kings say no

24 Jul 2016 04:22:51
Wrong Kings say no

19 Jul 2016 07:30:39
Heat trades for rebuild

Trade Dragic and McRoberts

Get 2018 1st MCW and Henson

Trade Bosh (only if healthy) and Richardson

Get - Lavine Shabazz Peck and 2017 1st

MCW - Weber
Lavine - Johnson
Shabazz - James Johnson
Winslow - Williams
Whiteside - Henson.

19 Jul 2016 13:25:53
That's what Minnesota needs, an expensive big when they are already overflowing with bigs.

Even if Bosh was healthy, Minnesota passes on this deal.

 
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