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13 Mar 2017 11:09:12
Noah Porzingis Hernangomez

Heat lack frontcourt depth
Knicks lack anchor



13 Mar 2017 14:17:19
Porzingis is the one huge bright spot on the Knicks. he's not going anywhere. he's only 21 and already a beast.

13 Mar 2017 14:27:28
No this is stupid for the Knicks. Also why would they draft a guy who would cause major spacing issues between him and Whiteside?

13 Mar 2017 17:10:40
The only way Porzingis would get traded from the Knicks is if Jackson was on his way out and wanted to stick it to Dolan. But getting Whiteside wouldn't be a bad thing, but Miami getting Noah would be. Trade is a good one by shizzee but just don't see Knicks doing it.

13 Mar 2017 22:23:07
Porzingis and Hernangomez? Porzingis is already arguably better than whiteside and he is much younger and cheaper. Doesn't make sense for Knicks to give up Porzingis for a guy in his prime like Whiteside when Knicks don't have a roster that can truly compete. I don't care that they are dumping Noah's contract since they aren't really gaining any cap space with Whitesides large contract.

13 Mar 2017 22:36:03
Williams and Whiteside def will be one which Knicks ppg avg against will guarantee them low 90s. Top of the league for yrs to come. I like Porzingis and can't Hernangomez. Can't get rid of 1 without the other. Noah is bonus. Find a pg who get 20-30 shots and points inside to their defense twin towers. Nightmare for rest of the league.

14 Mar 2017 03:03:04
Porzingis is not better than Whiteside right now, but is younger and will be better at some point (? ) . But until He averages a Double-Double for a full year I wouldn't go that far and say that much. Whiteside has done it the last 3 year plus has averaged 2.7 blks. They would have to offer Porzingis to get rid of Noah contract, they would much rather have Whitesides contract than Jokims, but I wouldn't do that, i'd rather keep PZ because as you said, Zinger is a franchise player to build around.

08 Mar 2017 16:09:35
miami heat offseason moves
waive mcroberts/get rid of boshs contract
re-sign waiters, reed, ellington, j johnson
draft day trade
nuggets : dragic,babbitt, heats 1st round pick
heat: chandler, mudiay
sign millsap and briante weber
mudiay/ t johnson/weber
millsap/j johnson/white

07 Mar 2017 23:44:14
miami heat offseason moves
waive mcroberts/get rid of boshs contract
re-sign waiters, reed, and j johnson
draft day trade
heat : payton,gordon
magic : dragic, babitt, ellington, 1st round pick
sign gallinari, briante weber, keith benson
payton/ t johnson/weber
gordon/j johnson/white

08 Mar 2017 12:32:06
No way Magic do that they don't need dragic in a pg loaded draft or those spare parts and a mid first and as of late Gordon has shown his worth at Pf not saying he will be a star he still has potential but a solid starter for sure. Payton is an average starter in this league but a solid bencher with 6th man potential as most of his best games have been from the bench. Magic get nothing from this deal if anything it would be a repeat of the Ibaka deal giving up young prospects for an older player in Dragic and would probs have to trade him half way through the season so before you post deals maybe think if it works in both teams interested not jus the team you follow.

08 Mar 2017 12:52:58
how does the trade really benefit miami more than the magic.

08 Mar 2017 13:28:26
Nobody wants Bosh's 52 million dollar contract.

09 Mar 2017 09:04:46
Ellington is non guaranteed so he's expiring next season, Babbitt expires this season so he can't be traded. So essentially their giving up Payton and Gordon for Dragic and a mid first. Dragic is 30 and with this the Magic will be taking a step back giving up another 2 young players their lineup would be.

Dragic, Ross, Fournier, no Pf, Vuc

And with their draft picks their isn't any Pf that screams star potential in this draft but their are a load of pg's and sf's with loads potential which is where the Magic are weak. They can fill their needs in this draft and jus let their team develop slowly before they make big changes.
Miami get a average pg who last night had a triple double so he does have his games. Then a Pf like Gordon who can defend the perimeter to partner with a great rim protector and you wonder how Miami are getting the better deal. Do your research before posting you didn't even know Babbitt was expiring.

07 Mar 2017 19:42:45
miami heat offseason moves
waive mcroberts
re-sign waiters, reed, and j johnson
draft day trade
heat : lillard, davis
blazers : dragic, babbitt, ellington, heats 1st round pick
sign gallinari and millsap
lillard/ t johnson
millsap/j johnson/white

07 Mar 2017 20:33:13
No way Miami has enough cap room for all of that.

07 Mar 2017 22:20:10
Assuming Heat are able to get Bosh's contract off the books they could have around 40 million in cap space which I don't believe will be quite enough to get both Millsap and Galo. Waiters will probably opt out of his current contract in search for more money so I doubt they'd be able to retain him too.

The trade is very unbelievable. I don't know why Portland would entertain that trade for Lillard at all. Maybe if Heat's pick was in the running for top 2 but Heat are barely in the lottery at this point so I don't think their pick has enough value to make this trade happen.

07 Mar 2017 22:28:00
Without Whiteside, I don't see any way Miami could get Lillard. Miamis first isn't sitting in the top 3, and anything worse isn't enough for Lillard.

07 Mar 2017 23:31:19
true true.

27 Feb 2017 01:25:00
Moving Noah at the cost Melo

Kings get Melo Noah Vujacic Ndour
Heat get Koufos Temple
Knicks get Gay Ellington McRoberts Toliver

Melo and Noah lead Kings in rebuilding without giving up any pieces. Melo best chance to his California dream.


Heat need a back behind Whiteside

Gay is worthy replacement at cost of moving Noah for expiring contract. Knicks Sign Patrick Mills Anderson Roberson and Jonathan Simmons 4yr 60mil


27 Feb 2017 02:00:27
SAC is not his CA dream. And Melo and Noah would only make the rebuild worse.

27 Feb 2017 03:31:03
Replacing Koufos Gay Temple Toliver is nono bc they are contributing to rebuilding. Noah and Melo are good leaders. He has been handling himself professionally. Melo could be traded again, hopefully divac learns get value than Cousins trade. He value greater than any one the Kings roster currently. Noah leadership for team with direction is worth 17 mil per yr.

27 Feb 2017 05:00:24
It's s mute trade. Melo would not accept a trade to sac.

27 Feb 2017 05:49:25
Who are the 4 people who think SAC is where Melo wants to be and huge contract guys on their last legs is good for a rebuilding team? Hilarious.

28 Feb 2017 03:51:09
Noah will be moved. To a recovery room.

23 Feb 2017 15:53:22
Lakers Offseason

SG Gordon Heyward to MAX Contract

G Jordie Meeks 3 years $21 million


LAL- Paul George
IND- Jordan Clarkson, Julius Randle & 2017 2nd overall pick.

George has expressed interest in playing for LA. The Pacers know he will probably leave for nothing after 17 if they are not competitive. Why not get two young solid role players and a top pick.

LAL- Hashan Whiteside
MIA- D'Angalo Russell, Timofey Mosgov, & 2019 1st (unprotected)

The Heat have the ability to start their rebuild around Russell and Winslow. They also can use Mosgov to fill the C void.

LAL- Elfrid Peyton
ORL- Nick Young

The Magic need shooters, and the Lakers need a distributing PG.

PG- Elfrid Peyton/Marcelo Huertas
SG- Gordon Heyward/Jordie Meeks
SF- Brandon Ingram/Corey Brewer
PF- Paul George/Larry Nance
C- Hashan Whiteside/Tarik Black

The new front office will want to make a big splash and start the winning process. They're not going to wait for Russell and top picks to develop. They will try to use their assets and bring in some big names.

23 Feb 2017 16:18:22
Heyward isn't going to Lakers. He's looking for a good team!

23 Feb 2017 16:35:25
If we trade PG13, we want Ingram and the pick (or russel if it falls out the top three.
And i think Bird rather trades him to Boston for the protected Clippers pick, than trade him to LA.

23 Feb 2017 17:03:11
No one wants nick young if Hezonja can't make the rotation how will Young no thanks. Anyways reports are lakers want a 2nd for young which means they know his value and going to sell low.

23 Feb 2017 17:09:27
Can't trade 3 first round picks in a row.

23 Feb 2017 12:53:39
Miami Heat / Philadelphia 76ers

Miami Heat: Sérgio Rodriguez;Jahlil Okafor.

Philadelphia 76ers:Tyler Johnson, Josh McRoberts, first round protected(1-14)2020.

23 Feb 2017 17:14:40
Tyler Johnson is an awful contract. No way 76ers are taking him.

23 Feb 2017 00:12:45
heat : okafor, luwawu-cabarrot
76ers : babbitt, mcroberts

23 Feb 2017 03:14:52
Value of Okafor is not high but obviously not this low. lmao.

23 Feb 2017 04:34:21
they just traded ilyasova who has been playing very good for splitter whos been hurt all seasom.

23 Feb 2017 06:17:53
To give Super Dario more minutes.

23 Feb 2017 06:29:00
They made that trade because it gives Saric more opportunity for minutes and they got two second round picks.

23 Feb 2017 00:06:00
heat : frazier, jones, pondexter(waive)
pelicans : ellington, mcroberts

22 Feb 2017 18:07:49
heat : jackson, morris, kcp
pistons : dragic, mcroberts, richardson

21 Feb 2017 15:53:43
Miami: J noah+ o'Quin+ rondo+ Mirotic+ 1rnd pick NY 17 and 19

NY: H Whiteside+ D Wade

Chicago: G Dragic+ C Lee+ L thomas

Miami go's in rebuilt mode

NY can sign CP3 in free agency
C: Whiteside
PF: Porzingis
SF: C Anthony
SG: D Wade

Chicago builts a team around Butler.

21 Feb 2017 16:23:02
This seems like terrible value for dragic and Whiteside. They take one of the worst contracts in the NBA, and get two picks that would end up being late firsts.

21 Feb 2017 01:16:09

Lakers get Hassan Whiteside & Josh McRoberts

Heat get Lou Will, Julius Randle, Luol Deng

21 Feb 2017 01:57:29
It'll take more than that to get Whiteside from Heat especially after their hot streak where they likely aren't actively shopping him.

20 Feb 2017 22:59:25

Miami gets- Johnson-Zeller-Bradley-1 bkln pick
Boston gets- Whiteside.

20 Feb 2017 16:31:08
heat : mudiay, jones, chandler
nuggets : holiday, ajinca, pondexter
pelicans : dragic, mcroberts. harris

20 Feb 2017 19:23:34
Can't imagine Nuggets giving up Mudiay, Chandler AND Harris for Holiday who is going into unrestricted FA and Ajinca and Pondexter. Even if Holiday was signed for next 3 years I'm not sure Nuggets would do that trade.

20 Feb 2017 20:45:45
chandler is going to leave regardless and murray needs to step up w nelson as his mentor
the only real loss is gary harris.

20 Feb 2017 16:22:04
This trade could be broken down into 2 trades but to save space.
Boston, Detroit, Miami, Chicago

Boston trades Brown, Crowder, Amir, Zeller
Rosier, olinyk, '17, '18 nets picks, mem 1st,
Receive whiteside, Butler, m.Morris

Chicago trade Butler,
Receive Brown, Olynyk, '17 nets pick

Detroit trade Morris, Boban, Ish, '17 first
Magic 2nd
Receive Dragic, Crowder

Miami trade Dragic, Whiteside
Receive '18 nets, '17 det 1st, orl 2nd,
mem 1st, Rozier, Zeller, Amir, ish, Boban

20 Feb 2017 16:46:56
If the Kings ran both of those teams it would work.

20 Feb 2017 18:54:57
If Miami and Chicago blow it up. I think this is a solid return.

16 Feb 2017 13:00:40

Phoenix get Okafor (PHI)

Atlanta get Tucker (PHO)

Philadelphia get Splitter (ATL, he's injured so philly can shut him down for the season and let his contract expire while getting closer to the salary floor), 2018 MIA 1st (PHO), and 2017 2nds from MIA and BKN (owned by ATL)

16 Feb 2017 13:58:42
2018 Miami pick is a bit of a wildcard since they could be sellers or buyers between then and significantly change their fortune. I think Phoenix would be smart to put minimally a top 5 protection on it especially since 76ers are getting two early 2nd rounders anyway. Otherwise I like it for Phx. ATL is paying a bit of a premium for Tucker imo since both BKN and Miami's 2nds should be early in the second making them practically more valuable than a late first due to the non-guarantee status. They should probably only be giving up 1 and change the other to their own 2018 2nd.

For Sixers I think its a solid return on Okafor. The situation is getting a bit out of control and I think they need to deal him and for what he has been rumored to go for I think this isn't a bad deal. Although the 2018 draft is big man heavy they can hopefully find one that better fits their roster. The early 2nd rounder in this years draft could also help them add bench depth on the wing cheaply.

16 Feb 2017 14:10:27
The reason why I chose the 2018 Miami 1st was b/ c it was already top 7 protected and the Suns 1st this year is too valuable.

16 Feb 2017 14:17:16
It's a good trade on paper, but Phoenix already has a lot of bugs. Chandler, Len, Chriss, and bender. That would just logjam them like the sixers are now.

16 Feb 2017 17:08:00
I's a a logg jam, but they should let Len walk and Chandler is aging.
Okafor-Bender-Chriss can become good.

16 Feb 2017 17:23:07
Suns say no. they're not giving up a first rounder for a guy who only averages 11 points in a league that plays no def. By trading okafor, rather than noel they risk losing both since noel is a free agent, yet they still keep pushing okafor on the trade market. what's that tell you?

15 Feb 2017 16:15:53
(Trade Machine approved Money)

Philly trades- Okafor, Luwawu-Cabarret, Worse of own and Sactown 2019 1st, 2019 NY 2nd.

Philly gets: 2018 Brooklyn 1st, 2020 Miami 2nd, Zeller (BOS) Rozier (BOS)

Boston trades- Johnson, Young, Zeller, Rozier, 2018 Brooklyn 1st, 2019 Clippers 1st, 2019 Detroit 2nd, 2020 Miami 2nd.

Boston gets: Drummond (det), Luwawu-Cabbarret (phi)

Detroit trades: Drummond

Detroit gets: Okafor (phi), Johnson (bos) Young (bos) 2019 Clippers 1st, 2019 Detroit 2nd.


Philly: Gets a 2018 Brooklyn pick and Rozier for Okafor and worse of a 2019 1st. They also get an expiring deal.

Boston: Gets Drummond without giving up major assets other than 2018 brooklyn pick.

Detroit: Gets a good young center, picks, and expiring deals.

15 Feb 2017 16:20:41
Closer value-wise but DET passes on this.

15 Feb 2017 17:05:05
Detroit Says no unless they get Brkln pick and Philly gets LAC pick. But good foundation just need a little tweaking.
Philly hasn't done crap with all the picks they've had over the last 3 years so they don't deserve the Brkln pick.

15 Feb 2017 17:27:56
Boston will not be trading either of the Brooklyn picks unless they get a top-10 player in return. That's not Drummond.

15 Feb 2017 17:48:58
Agree that the bkn pick should be going to Detroit. A first and rozier is enough for okafor.

15 Feb 2017 18:38:28
Suppercollider, You must not like Drummond.
SB*Nation has him listed as the 3rd best in the NBA.

15 Feb 2017 18:51:51
Drummond is an all star level center locked in long term. 2017 nets pick starts any conversation, anything less isn't a serious offer.

15 Feb 2017 19:13:59
The Celtics wouldn't do Rozier and a non Nets 1st for Ibaka, so I don't see them making this trade for Drummond. Ibaka fits their system better than Drummond does, and while he's really good at some things, he's got his warts as well. He's far from a perfect player, and I'd honestly say he's probably not a top 5 center at this point. The fact that SVG, a guy whose system relies on a strong center, is shopping him does not bode well for him.

15 Feb 2017 19:30:34
They already have an ibaka type in horford, both being more (power) forward types that like to stand 15 away from the basket.

Not bringing in the fact that drummond is the much more valuable player, ibaka only had a year left on his contract, so of course they wouldn't give up a bkn pick for him.

15 Feb 2017 21:45:27
The offensive end isn't where the Celtics are having problems. They need help defensively and on the boards. Ibaka would have done what Amir Johnson does, but better, offensively, but would have upgraded in those key areas. Drummond can rebound, sure, but would have thrown a kink into the offensive gears. He's not a good assist guy, and he's nota great defender. He also doesn't really have range, which both the others do. If they're going to make a move for a center with no range, I'd rather a guy like Bogut.

16 Feb 2017 03:58:24
Go for bogut then and stay in mediocrity. if that's the type of move Boston is looking to do then they might as well just do nothing and keep building.

I think at this point it should be trade for a star or nothing. The point is to try to win a championship right?

16 Feb 2017 16:24:47
Drummond just isn't a team changing type guy. He's a really good rebounder, but that's it. Moving that much, especially a Nets pick, for him would do exactly what you're saying. send them to mediocrity. Bogut is also a really good rebounder, but also plays solid defense. More importantly, he'll be MUCH cheaper in a trade, and will not tie up their future cap flexibility.

15 Feb 2017 15:20:41
Heat : chandler, mudiay
Nuggets : dragic, mcroberts (waive), richardson
Heat sign gallinari in offseason and release babbitt
Draft giles or miles bridges
Mudiay/ t johnson
Waiters / ellington/ bridges
Winslow/ chandler/ mcgruder
Gallinari/ j johnson /white/ haslem
Whiteside/ reed/ giles

15 Feb 2017 18:08:41
Why wouldn't this work?

14 Feb 2017 00:47:48

Heat get Wall, gortat, pick

Wizards get Whiteside, dragic, johnson

Heat can go after Cousins with his college teammate

Wizard get a defensive anchor at center they can pair with Beal n a vet pg

14 Feb 2017 02:48:39
I don't think Wizards would accept this. If they really wanted they could go after Boogie themselves. The Wizards have miraculously came from the worst team in the league the first few months of season to one of the hottest and top 3 in the east. I don't think they get rid of their best player for that offer let alone Gortat (who has played solidly) and their first rounder as well.

12 Feb 2017 21:59:25
OKC Thunder moves

1. Trade Andre Roberson, Kyle Singler to Phoenix for PJ Tucker, Miami 2018 1st (1-7 protected)

2. Trade Joffrey Lauvergne, Anthony Morrow, Miami 2018 1st to Orlando for Serge Ibaka, CJ Wilcox

3. Call up Daniel Hamilton

Pg Westbrook, Payne, Christon
Sg Oladipo, Abrines, Wilcox
Sf Tucker, Grant, Hamilton
Pf Ibaka, Sabonis, Huestis
C Adams, Kanter, Collison.

13 Feb 2017 03:45:43
Or they could go after Taj Gibson instead of Ibaka.

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