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17 Aug 2015 19:14:52
Spurs Get: Tony Wroten

76ers Get: Kyle Anderson

17 Aug 2015 21:27:12
This is another one of those deals I just don't get. Trade a young player for a young player. But Sixers clearly give up the better player with the better numbers but get nothing extra in return. This deal just won't happen.

Kyle Anderson. 2.9 point per game.

18 Aug 2015 01:10:45
Kyle anderson is all potential, wroten peaked already

18 Aug 2015 09:08:35
i actually like this deal.
the Sixers get a point forward that needs an opportunity to play, because he didn't get that in San Antonio. He will be a bench Warmer and talent wasted.
The Spurs get there instant offense guy off the bench at the SG spot.

18 Aug 2015 13:38:36
That's giving up too much for Anderson. I think the Spurs would move him- if they felt so compelled- for a couple second rounders. But I don't think they fell compelled.

18 Aug 2015 16:13:51
Wroten hasn't peaked yet. Still 21 guys. People forget because he's been in the league for three or four season already.

18 Aug 2015 17:03:10
kyle had a great summer league spurs aren't looking to trade him anytime soon

17 Aug 2015 04:03:49
Spurs-Sixers

Spurs get Tony Wroten

Sixers get Patty Mills

With the McCallum acquisition, Patty Mills' minutes might be affected. Tony Wroten is a SG who could play the role of a sixth man in San Antonio (when Manu is gone), Pop might improve his turnover per game with ball not stock in his hands

Sixers get a true PG with skills and still young

bash me Sixers fans but this I think is fair

Spurs

Parker/McCallum/Freddette
Green/Ginobili/Wroten
Leonard/Anderson
Aldridge/West/Bonner
Duncan/Diaw/Marjanovic

Sixers

Mills/Canaan
Stauskas/McRae
Covington/Grant/Saric
Noel/Landry
Okafor/Embiid

17 Aug 2015 05:33:42
Not going to bash you. Just think it's a trade that doesn't do much for either team.

17 Aug 2015 11:51:17
mills provides the spurs scoring off bench I don't think they trade him

17 Aug 2015 14:47:44
First off Tony wroten is a point guard way before he's a shooting guard. The key word is "shooting" which he can not do.

Second that trade isn't even close to fair or smart. Trade a young point guard for an older below average at best point guard. Yes he's a vet but he also is a below average vet. Trade make zero sense unless Sixers are getting a first rounder in the deal. Probably late first rounder.

17 Aug 2015 16:46:57
Mills has never averaged more than 2 1/2 assists per game. Ever. If I'm trading Wroten, I want a real PG. The Sixers already have a 6ft PG that doesn't create- Canaan. Why give up Wroten for another one?

When did Jimmer get to the Spurs? Love Jimmer.

17 Aug 2015 19:17:57
Phillyrich.

I know. I thought jimmer would of been awesome with a. Chance to start on the Sixers. A shame we could snatch him up to with the promise of playing time.

12 Aug 2015 21:10:35
76ers next moves:
Brett Brown is turning Sixers into Spurs of the East:
Sixers go totally unconventional to solve pg situation. Sign Brazilian Marcelo Huertas. Huertas is a high energy guy, great shot, decent size at 6'3". Reported earlier today that he wants to come to the nba this season in the right situation. He feels he can help a team now and help mentor a young pg. Sounds like a perfect fit for Philly. They are probably the only team that could guarantee him a great chance to start and pay him decent money. Yes a bit old at 32, but all Philly needs is someone to keep the seat warm and help develop the big guys.
Sixers are still going to land Morris as well.
Pg: Huertas/Wroten
Sg: Stauskas/Thompson
Sf: Covington/Grant
Pf: Noel/Morris
C: Okafor/Noel

13 Aug 2015 06:09:15
Philly is the Spurs of the East? That is laughable. Philly may be good in another few years but nowhere near the Spurs level.

13 Aug 2015 12:31:14
Oldskoolmagic:.it's a model the Sixers and Brown(a top spurs assistant for years) are loosely following. Building through the draft and acquiring overseas talent. Hell, I'd be happy with progress and 25-30 wins this year. I thought " is turning" obviously implies that they aren't there yet. Guess not.

13 Aug 2015 13:00:25
No so laughable.

1. The Spurs have won about 60% of their games each and every season since 1990. There is only a single exception, the year they intentionally tanked and won only 20 games. Many would call what they did in 1997 "tanking." The reward for tanking? Tim Duncan.
2. Just a few years before tanking, they drafted a Center who would not be able to play in the NBA for a couple of years. A big defensive presence. While waiting on this guy they won 21 games. They waited for David Robinson.

The Sixers have kind of mirrored that except Hinkie is doing it on steroids. Instead of a single bad year he's going for the hat-trick of bad years.

Hinkie has not had the benefit of getting the very first pick in the draft and taking the easy consensus #1 pick so he's taken the risk of drafting an injured Noel and injured Embiid.

We'll know if it worked in a few years. The Spurs won over 70% of their games the year before tanking for Duncan. They weren't a tear down and rebuild like the current Sixers.

Its not that far of a stretch to try to parallel the path taken by the Spurs and Sixers. Instead of calling it "laughable," maybe try to think it through a bit.

Everyone loves the Spurs now. But they flat out tanked and have been rewarded for it for almost 20 years.

13 Aug 2015 14:39:38
Someone really hates the Spurs right now

13 Aug 2015 15:03:09
I mean you respect the Spurs and what they done(I hope). Kinda looked like hating but I get what your saying

13 Aug 2015 15:12:48
Philly do you know when they start the hgh or drug or steroid testing whatever they call it? I wanna know who gets suspended and what not. Does start this season or next offseason?

13 Aug 2015 15:34:40
Lots of other teams have tanked. Lots of other teams have been building through the draft. Believe it or not, most teams have a player on their roster from over seas.

The T Wolves Have an overseas talent in Rubio. They have been building through the draft and tanked last year. Does that make them the next "Spurs of the West"?

You guys have a lot of young talent, but you have a losing culture, no veteran leadership to show these young players how to be professionals, and you're the front runner every year to get the #1 pick next summer. You're going to start losing these talented young guys one by one as they get to the end of their rookie contracts and it'll be revolving door until your fan base demands Hinkie gets fired.

13 Aug 2015 15:34:58
I don't hate the Spurs. They're a very professional organization. I was responding to the Magic fan above.

The Spurs started this run by tanking. That's the point. People beat on the Sixers for their course of action but have great admiration for the Spurs (now) without understanding what they did. You can't have it both ways- although I'm in the camp that Hinkie is over doing it.

13 Aug 2015 15:37:34
The NBA and the National Basketball Players Association announced today that blood testing for Human Growth Hormone (HGH) will commence under the league's anti-drug program, effective with the 2015-16 NBA season.

As part of the collective bargaining negotiations in 2011, the NBA and the Players Association agreed to a process for determining how HGH blood testing would be implemented in the NBA. With that process now completed, beginning with the start of 2015 NBA training camps, all NBA players will be subject to three random, unannounced HGH tests annually (two in-season, one off-season), and players will also be subject to reasonable cause testing for HGH.

If a player tests positive for HGH, he will be suspended 20 games for his first violation and 45 games for his second violation, and he will be dismissed and disqualified from the NBA for his third violation.

13 Aug 2015 15:43:46
@Phillyrich
I think most people understand at the very minimum why a team would tank, the current system incentivizes it for bad teams. If things aren't going well during the season and you figure out that there's no way to be competitive, I don't fault a team for tanking.

The problem I have with the 76ers is that's their strategy before preseason every year! Everyone knows that they intentionally did not put together a roster this summer to compete, same as last year. They traded away the reigning rookie of the year in his 2nd season. The only knock on MCW was he can't shoot. Everyone knows that's the one skill that can be easily taught to a young player (look at Blake Griffin). I would have a lot more respect for your team if they started game 1 each year with the intent to win as many games as possible instead of the other way around.

13 Aug 2015 16:29:51
The Sixers do not have a losing culture. Brown is very, very good about that.


But you're right about losing the young players. That's why I thought the Sixers would add a vet PG and keep Thompson.

13 Aug 2015 17:40:02
Im not knocking Coach Brown. I have no doubt that he tries to win every game he coaches. But the losing culture comes from the management. We already know that the best case for Philly this year is that they're bad enough to land the #1 pick next summer. The players know that's what management is hoping for. That's why it's a losing culture, not because of Coach Brown.

13 Aug 2015 18:13:20
L O L @Phillyrich thinking Philly's historical losing stretch is similar to the Spurs. Philly won't be good for 20 years. No one in hell wants to go there, and college prospects are so undeveloped coming out after one year now they won't make an impact straight out.

13 Aug 2015 19:28:24
Look, the first year Hinkie tore this thing down. Nobody believes that a roster of Thad Young, Evan Turner, Spenser Hawes, no picks, no cap space, and Doug Collins was a winning formula. Holliday was their only player.

The second year everyone knew he was not going to shoot for playoffs. They had that pick traded and it was lottery protected. I don't really agree with the MCW trade but I understand that he took a shot at a high pick for him. On the plus side, Noel took off offensively when MCW got traded.

However, this year he should have gone more aggressively toward a build up. He got a C, he has a PF, he got a young SG (whether you like him or not), he has young SF in Grant and Covington. He had some bench in Wroten, Thompson (just traded), Simms, plus a couple guys that started last year. All he needed to be a competitive team was a PG. That's it. Then use your picks next year.

He didn't do that. And I agree that's bothersome.

13 Aug 2015 19:47:59
@cwj:

LOL yourself. You can't read.

I'm extremely clear in that the Spurs did not have to go through an extended tear down. They were a consistent winner before tanking for that one season. The Sixers were not and had to go through a complete tear down. The Sixers had no cap space, no draft picks and no talent. That wasn't true of the Spurs.

14 Aug 2015 19:14:12
Phillyrich, jvugy and all sixers fans. just relax with the analogies at this point. You are setting yourselves up for disappointment otherwise. To say Noel took off once MCW was traded. he boosted his ppg like 2 or 3. seeing as MCW leaving left a void of about 15+ points, it really isn't a dramatic increase.

The sixers have Noel, very good defensive potential, however, at his current size, he is not able to guard centers effectively. Additionally, he has zero offensive game.

Okafor is a rookie with very little defensive game, great back to basket offensively, but again, paired with Noel, it doesn't seem like a good match. Neither can shoot from over 10 feet away, leading to a crowded paint.

Embiid, sorry, I think he is done.

Guards. yeah, the sixers like staukakus or however you spell it, but at this point, he isn't a top 20 sg, and I don't see any reason to believe he will be in the next year or two. Perhaps he can become decent and serviceable, but who knows.

The system in theory could work, but Heinkie is just failing at it. He refuses to pick up key free agents. Not studs, but leaders, people that make a team, people that guide winners. It is consistently, we draft, we trade, if you do well, we will sell you for future picks.

The spurs model worked great. The thunder worked great. However, they were CONSTANTLY looking to better themselves, the sixers have gone now 3 years publicly stating "we are tanking" meaning no one wants to play for them. Not now, and not ever. Not until Heinke and the management team are out. Because it is THEY that make the basketball decisions and it is THEY that have created the losing environment.

The team Heinke is far more analogous to, unfortunately, is the clippers. Donald Sterling lost for 20 years, but figured out how to make lots of money doing it. Sorry. Its true

22 Jul 2015 06:25:49
Spurs are lacking of shooting guard, with Manu on his twilight of his carrer he is not expected to play more than 70 games. Stephen Jackson used to be a bad boy but played well under Pop so why not sign Jr Smith

Jr take a paycut to be with another powerhouse

the Spurs-Lakers

Spurs get Robert Sacre

Lakers get 2016 2nd round pick

Spurs add center depth (true center)

Spurs roster/rotation

T.Parker/P.Mills/R.McCallum
D.Green/J.Smith/M.Ginobili
K.Leonard/M.Ginobili/K.Anderson
L.Aldridge/D.West/M.Bonner
T.Duncan/B.Diaw/R.Sacre

22 Jul 2015 07:44:23
JR Smith is probably the least likely player in the whole league to sign with the spurs. He's too selfish of a shooter, and he's a very aggressive in personality kind of player. That doesn't really fit with pops system

22 Jul 2015 22:48:48
well SAS signed jimmer

23 Jul 2015 02:38:20
Spurs signed Jimmer Fredette

23 Jul 2015 08:02:11
also, SAS already signed Boban Marjanović so they are not looking for more center depth.

24 Jul 2015 00:58:51
^Until the signing of Jimmer, this is kinda believable.

19 Jul 2015 15:59:41
Lakers trade Robert sacre
Spurs trade 2016 second round pick (50-60) protected
Lakers have three centers on the roster already
Spurs get a actual center who is 26 years old

21 Jul 2015 06:21:48
didnt.spurs trade that pick for macallum

15 Jul 2015 08:10:34
Spurs offseason (rest of it)

Spurs need front court depth and youth

Trade 16 1st for Lucas Noguiera - Raw rim protector

Sign
Chris Walker - Pop can coach him up

Parker-Mills
Green-Manu
Leonard-Anderson
LA-Diaw-Walker
Duncan-Noguiera

15 Jul 2015 18:12:16
They'll have West/Diaw off the bench. They have plenty of front court depth.

15 Jul 2015 03:09:50
SAS-DEN

SAS gets Randy foye

DEN gets Reggie Williams, and a 2016 first

SAS needs some more depth in the backcourt after losing belleneli. Foye can spread the floor and provide depth for not very much. And although a foye is not worth a normal 1st rounder, considering how the spurs will be a top team next year foye is worth a late 1st.

DEN doesn't really have a need for foye with Nelson, mudiay, maybe Lawson, Harris and Barton already in the backcourt so a getting a future pick would help the rebuild.

15 Jul 2015 16:16:45
Foye is not worth a 1st

15 Jul 2015 16:58:36
@USA I know that, but he is worth a pick that will just turn into a draft and stash player. Their pick is going to be at the end of the round so there is a very small chance they get a player better than him there.

15 Jul 2015 17:26:45
it is still a first rounder out of only 2 rounds for a role player at best

15 Jul 2015 22:53:49
@BB3 are they going to get anyone better than foye with one of those picks.

16 Jul 2015 01:27:57
@kiks. do I have any comment on this trade?

10 Jul 2015 08:46:05
With that max offer sheet signed by Kanter, I'm guessing that only win situation for OKC would be trying to S&T and getting at least something in return. I just can't see them paying 17.5M per year for a player who is not even a clear starting option for them and would give them cap headaches in the future and on other hand not making everything possible to win a title this year could have huge impact on KD's decision next summer.

OKC trade Kanter S&T, Waiters, Novak
OKC receive K. Martin, Budinger
OKC sign Javale for vet min or MLE (1+1 team option)

Portland trade Leonard, Vonleh
Portland receive Kanter S&T, Novak

Minnesota trade K. Martin, Budinger
Minnesota receive Leonard, Vonleh, Waiters

I know it's a long shot but guessing that all teams would have some benefits from this trade:

- OKC improving at starting SG and SF backup, having more PT for Adams (which I actually rate over and find as better fit than Kanter), and keeping at least some cap flexibility for years to come

- if they really see Kanter as a max player Portland should accept (despite I think they went nuts with that offer sheet and not really sure what are their plans for the future now since they are clear loosers of this off-season imo)

- Minessota gets three usable pieces who should fit into their young core and give them some depth, getting rid of two pieces they are apparently trying to sell anyway


C Adams, McGee, Collison
PF Ibaka, Mcgary
SF KD, Budinger, PJ
SG K Mart, Morrow, Robertson
PG Westbrook, Augustin, Payne

not as deep as SAS but I can see them as conteders without injury issues

10 Jul 2015 12:51:51
Another genious -blazers know they are over paying for Kanter, so don't loose other in the process. Either okc matches it. Or says byby

10 Jul 2015 13:35:57
Why would Portland trade both of their young talented PFs for a guy they can get for nothing? I just don't see Portland helping okc. And unless okc is throwing in draft picks they are stuck with Novak.

10 Jul 2015 14:16:20
so basically, You think that Portland made that offer just because they have to much money to spend (for the next 4 years) and now are actually hoping that OKC is going to match? Not like Vonleh and Leonard are key players in their plans and I'm quite sure they actually want Kanter pretty hard, probably hoping that Lillard-Kanter P&R could make wonders at the offensive end.

Like I've said, it's a long short (not sure if OKC would accept that trade too) but it seems like Portland doesn't have intention to tank and their options are extremely limited atm.

10 Jul 2015 20:06:35
Except vonleh and Leonard are the future at PF for Portland. I disagree with everything you just said. Portland wants Kanter, but not for two talented bigs in their early 20's

09 Jul 2015 21:52:03
spurs
still need some pieces
!. kj mCdaniels

2.emeka okafor

3.tashaun prince


parker ,mills, MCcallum
green, ginobili, kj McDaniels
leonard, Anderson, prince
Aldridge, diaw, west
Duncan,lalane,okafor

09 Jul 2015 16:53:39
ATL Final Move:

ATL - DEN

ATL get: Wilson Chandler

DEN get: Thabo Sefolosha & 1st Rd DP (2017)

pg. Teague/Schroeder
sg. Korver/THJ
sf. Chandler/Bazemore
pf. Milsap/Daye
c. Horford/Splitter

ATL Hawks Vs. SA Spurs 2016 Championship

09 Jul 2015 19:44:34
Lol cavs will still beat that team, IMO they're already a lock for the finals. And while OKC/SA both have great teams that could very well make the finals, I'm still picking my Warriors to make it out of the west. They're bringing back the same championship squad, but they will be better, as Klay, Steph, Green, Ezeli all have room to improve. And I expect a breakout year from Barnes who is already solid. But it's a toss up in the west.

07 Jul 2015 18:43:35
spurs/clippers

spurs get j.j.redick

clippers get boris diaw

hearing that jj thought clippers did nothing to improve and that he is from texas this could work. spurs could use his shooting behind green

diaw would be a good fit for clippers a big guy with point guard skills smart passing and has good range

07 Jul 2015 20:11:18
I don't think the spurs want to move diaw but if they do I like this trade

07 Jul 2015 13:54:58
Spurs offseason

- renounce all own FAs' rights except K.Leonard and D.Green
- sign L.Aldridge (4-year, 82M: including player option)
- sign T.Duncan (2-year, 14M: including player option)
- re-sign K.Leonard (5-year, 90M) via bird rights
- re-sign D.Green (4-year, 44.5M) via bird rights
- sign M.Ginobili (1-year, 3M) via room exception
- sign D.West, R.Jefferson and J.Nelson (2-year, min: including player options)
- sign M.Bonner, J.Jenkins and J.Ayres (1-year, min.)


Parker - Mills - Nelson
Green - Ginobili - Jenkins
Leonard - Jefferson - Anderson
Aldridge - West - Bonner
Duncan - Diaw - Ayres


Comments?

07 Jul 2015 14:50:41
Richard Jefferson resigned with the mavericks

07 Jul 2015 15:03:06
Ayres is a piston

07 Jul 2015 17:09:14
That was baynes

06 Jul 2015 21:02:41
spurs
need a player at every position

trade
spurs get - henson and rashad vaughn

bucks get - diaw and first round pick 2016

bucks could use diaw skills at the 4
SPURS need a backup center and a prospect SG

SIGN david west
SIGN luis sola
Sign caron butler or tashaun prince. cheapest one
resign bonner. fan favorite
parker, mills
green, ginobili, vaughn
leonard, butler or prince, Anderson
Aldridge, west, scola
duncan, henson, bonner

07 Jul 2015 07:19:16
Why would Milwaukee do that?

04 Jul 2015 20:35:05
spurs - R.Vaughn, J.Henson

bucks - B.Diaw and a first round pick

sign luis scola

sign caron butler

parker, mills, joseph
green, ginobili, vaughn
leonard, butler, anderson
Aldridge, west, scola
duncan, henson

05 Jul 2015 08:14:55
Why would spurs trade diaw he is stillvery good makes the offence work

05 Jul 2015 09:50:22
@Fatpat to clear cap space.

09 Jul 2015 05:08:54
Not going to happen

03 Jul 2015 22:19:32
If Aldridge is going to choose Suns in FA. (Dallas got Jordan and Matthews, Lakers aren't real contending next year and Spurs will not be the same team in 2016 if Aldridge looks for future success)

Suns get Aldridge(s&t, 5y max contract)

Blazers get Tucker, Green(s&t, 3y 12m), future 1st round pick (heavily protected)

Suns:
Bledsoe/Knight/Goodwin
Knight/Goodwin/Booker
Markieff/Warren
Aldridge/Markieff/Leuer
Chandler/Len/Aldridge
- immediat contender
- very talented roster but also still young with plenty of room to develop (Bledsoe, Knight, Markieff, Len, Booker, Warren and Goodwin) that's ridiculous
- with addition of expierenced Aldridge and Chandler, Suns are an immediat contender for years (Len takes over from Chandler at least in 2017)

Blazers:
Lilliard/McCollum
Green/McCollum/Henderson/Connaughton
Aminu/Tucker/Green
Vonleh/Aminu
Plumlee/Leonard
- young athletic and talented roster
- Blazers will build around Lilliard and try to develop McCollum, Vonleh, Aminu, Plumlee and Leonard into at least starting 5 caliber player
- lottery team in 2016 and 2017

04 Jul 2015 18:18:21
Well the Spurs are going to be pretty good because we got Aldrige

04 Jul 2015 23:06:20
Aldridge*

03 Jul 2015 16:21:08
Cavs get diaw mills
Spurs get Haywood (waive)

Cavs sign prince(vet min) resign Perkins(vet min)
Spurs sign Aldridge to max deal

Irving/mills/dellevedova
Smith/shumpert/miller
James/prince/jones
Love/Thompson/diaw
Mozgov/verajao/Perkins

03 Jul 2015 11:19:37
Knicks loose out to Rockets & Beverly bc they don't want to over pay him. If the don't over pay Rockets will match. 2nd opt Corey Joseph 4yr 24mil. He reminds me of young fisher. Spurs won't match bc of Mills and Parker commited long term. Knicks loose jordan sweepstakes bc jordan will choice mavs or clips. Robin Lopez 4yr 48mil set ny up for 1 last trade that benefits everyone.

Suns get Ledo Rights to Laberyie
Without loosing both Tucker and Markieff bringing Aldridge chandler Bledsoe Knight is not possible. Than they match all offers for Green bc he is a rfa.

Knight/Goodwin/McNeal
Bledsoe/Booker/Ledo
Green/Warren/Laberyie
Aldridge/Leuer/Brown
Chandler/Len/Barron

Pacers get Felton-exp Markieff
They want play fast Hibbert prevents that. Pacers add a Jeff Ayres and Tony Mitchell athlete that fit

Hill/Sloan/Felton
Ellis/Stuckey/Hill
George/Miles/Rudez
Ayres/Allen/Mitchell
Markieff/Turner/Mahinmi

Mavs get Calderon Early Galloway.
With mathews and Jordan. Mavs have great starting 5, solid bench

Calderon/Barea/Mekel
Mathews/Harris/Galloway
Parsons/C.Butler/Early
Dirk/Villanueva/Powell
Jordan/G.Smith/James

Knicks get Hibbert Tucker J.Anderson. NY has defense
units with can score around Melo and his backup Porzingis. W.Green 2yr 5mil biannual

Joseph/Grant/Triche
Afflalo/Green/Thanasis
Tucker/J.Anderson/L.Thomas
Melo/Porzingis/Jas.Smith
Lopez/Hibbert/A.Bynum
Tucker

02 Jul 2015 21:16:53
Cavs Spurs wolves
Cavs get Martin mills diaw
Spurs get Haywood (waive)
Wolves ayres Harris

02 Jul 2015 21:26:50
You must be a cavs fan

02 Jul 2015 23:47:23
Ayers went to Pistons

03 Jul 2015 03:49:02
Cavs don't have cap space for this.

02 Jul 2015 20:55:14
Cavs-Spurs-twolves
Cavs get diaw mills and Martin
Spurs get Haywood
Twolves get ayres Harris

02 Jul 2015 23:35:49
Wolves won't move Martin unless they get a 1st

01 Jul 2015 19:50:56
Spurs-Cavs

Spurs get Haywood (waive)

Cavs get Mills

01 Jul 2015 23:36:53
no need to trade mills

 
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