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22 Sep 2020 13:48:34
Nets get George, McGruder, Shamet
***A 3rd "star" to be the third guy on the Nets as they try and contend next year. George just seems to fit with KD and Kyrie. All three could rewrite their narrative a bit with a successful season next year.

Clips get Lavert, Prince, Dinwiddie
***Dinwiddie could be Robin. But so could Lavert. Maybe they both take a step playing in LA. More importantly, LA can't keep everyone this offseason. This offloads George and brings in a bit more depth.

Thoughts? (Not a fan of either team, but thought it was interesting)

ChurchPugh

1.) 22 Sep 2020 15:01:08
I don't think clippers will trade George without getting first round picks.


2.) 22 Sep 2020 16:09:20
You might be right asdenam. But I think George has been slightly overrated while Lavert is underrated.


3.) 22 Sep 2020 16:18:46
I only think they trade George for a Robin too Leonard.


4.) 22 Sep 2020 17:07:12
Paul George was very big mistake for clippers. But they paid huge for hım. They won't trade him.


 

 

21 Sep 2020 13:22:20
Cavs get Gordon, Ross

Clips get Love

Magic get George

***Cavs get a couple younger players while ditching Love. Clips get a guy who has proven he can be an effective Robin with a true Batman. Magic take a chance at having a franchise guy who is a big buy low situation.

Thoughts?

ChurchPugh

1.) 21 Sep 2020 13:35:06
Absolutely horrible for the Clippers and a highway robbery by the Magic.


2.) 21 Sep 2020 20:07:05
The Cavs would cut out Orlando and this is awful for the Clippers. He had a bad playoffs, but PG is still easily a top 15 guy.


 

 

16 Sep 2020 14:34:43
Just throwing this out there.

Clippers get Russ

Rockets get PG

Ok hear me out. I'm a Thunder fan and have watched tons of both of these two guys. Clips faltered last night and really could've used Russ: a guy who can drive, draw fouls, and can bring tenacity and urgency. Russ can also rebound at a very high clip. Last night, when all the clips shots weren't falling, they were getting very few second chances. Imagine Russ driving, rebounding, and providing multiple chances.

The Rockets needed a change. Russ and Harden just don't fit. PG makes less money, is a better shooter, and has better positional versatility. He could be a much better fit with Harden's ball-dominant style and provide more opportunities on offense. He is also a very good defender and would help the defense in Houston's small ball lineup.

Finally, the Clips and the Rockets have both mortgaged their future to the Thunder. If they try this swap, they give themselves a shakeup without handing out more assets/picks (which neither of them really having much anyways) and without losing a star. It's just a simple swap.

Thoughts?

ChurchPugh

1.) 16 Sep 2020 15:24:52
PG value is still tremendously higher than Westbrook. Clippers didn’t give SGA and 5 1st just to get Westbrook.


2.) 16 Sep 2020 15:28:53
I threw crap once in a toilet.


3.) 16 Sep 2020 16:05:06
I honestly don’t hate the idea. But salaries don’t match and it’s not equal value. How about Clippers get Westbrook, PJ Tucker, and a future unprotected 1rp, Rockets get PG and Patrick Beverly?

It’s essentially swapping forwards and guards for each other. The Clips get the guard they need to complement Kawhi, like Lowry in Toronto. They also get a versatile forward and a tradable asset. Rockets get a better complement for Harden and bring back their hustle defensive guard. Seems fair to me. I’d like to see it happen.


4.) 16 Sep 2020 16:22:44
Pretty lopsided


5.) 16 Sep 2020 18:44:36
PGs value is not that high don’t know why people think so. He can opt out after one more year and has proven to be a 0 in the playoffs on 3 different teams lol.


 

 

08 Sep 2020 13:57:46
Bleacher Report is pretty divisive, but they proposed this deal. I want to see what you guys think.

Nuggets get Paul
***Nuggets are deep. They do this deal to go all in on a winning next year. They will still have decent depth and this could unlock the offense even more.

OKC gets Harris, Barton, Morris
***Thunder were a shot or two away from winning a playoff series. I think some of their young guys could take a step next year. This brings in a young point guard and offensive firepower on the wing. The latter could have been their achilles heel at times.

This would also allow them to flip these guys to other teams for assets... OR they could fill in holes and take one more shot at the post season. Thoughts?

ChurchPugh

1.) 08 Sep 2020 14:49:41
I like it.


2.) 08 Sep 2020 23:59:56
I see Paul heading East. Philly or Milwaukee are the most desperate to win now and will probably offer the most.


3.) 15 Sep 2020 05:54:34
Pugh, I hate to say it, but I don’t even know if the same Okc team this year could make the playoffs next year. And they could bring this same team back next year. But Presti sees how cut throat it’s going to be next year and has decided to break it down and regroup.

Harris, Barton & Morris aren’t going to fit that rebuild & Presti will get more value for Paul than that.

I’ve also said it a Billion times before on this site, Bleacher Report is the absolute worst Rag that is out there. Whoever writes for them have NO clue about fair or realistic trades. They would have every GM fired in a heartbeat if any of them did the deals that they suggest on that site.


 

 

04 Sep 2020 03:14:17
Could be a perfect match...

Sixers get Paul
***Paul held together an overachieving Thunder team that took the contending rockets to 7 games. He can stretch the floor, defer when he needs to, take over when he needs to, and can facilitate an offense that sputtered in the playoffs. This could be the last ditch effort for the Sixers and a last shot for Paul to win a ring.

Okc gets Harris, their 2020 first back
***Harris is younger and cheaper and under contract for 4 more years. This gives Okc their pick back but allows them the option to stay competitive while adding to first round talents, or they can flip Harris. This deal also allows them to let Gallo walk and fill his role if they don't think Bazley is ready yet.

Thoughts?

ChurchPugh

1.) 04 Sep 2020 03:42:28
Good trade for sure as it helps both teams. I think the only thing stopping it is the length of Harris' contract. $40 million a year for four years is really tough on the cap, but I definitely would take Harris before Horford. Good trade Church. I'm getting the feeling here that the Thunder are going to break things up seeing that the youngsters like SGA, Bazely and Dort really came along this year. I see Paul and Gallo moving and possibly Adams and Schroeder, too, as they are in the last year of their contracts.


2.) 04 Sep 2020 07:26:29
Philly should be owing Thunder the pick.


3.) 04 Sep 2020 09:11:35
Its not a bad trade but if the thunder are going to trade chris paul they are going to blow it up and do a full rebuild. Getting tobias harris is doing a half rebuild and if they want to continue winning they would just keep paul. 1st isn't worth it.


4.) 04 Sep 2020 12:20:16
The Thunder are going to win even if Paul is traded. They have plenty of young talents that are ready to play more - SGA, Bazely, Dort. there won't be a year down just older players being moved for picks and/ or younger talent.


5.) 05 Sep 2020 19:20:59
OKC still really needs a star to lead the young guys.


 

 

 

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22 Jan 2015 18:48:10
Let's Get Crazy.

Thunder get CJ Watson, Tristan Thompson, Cleanthony Early
***Pass first point guard, active young big with potential, prospect on the wing. Balance the roster plus preserve a little cap space in the summer to tinker if need be.

Knicks get Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Solomon Hill
***Two high-level guys who can be something to build on. They don't mesh as well with Lebron as Wade and Bosh did, but they could mesh well together in New York. Love could opt out and leave, but Irving is locked up for years. Plus, they get Hill who could be a productive player.

Pacers get Jason Smith, Jeremy Lamb, Travis Wear, Brandon Haywood, Nick Collison
***This makes them worse in the interim which is fine with George out. This summer, they'll have some cap space with this deal to make some moves and make a run in the East next season. Some of these guys can be waived, but Lamb could be worth holding on to.

Cavs get Carmelo Anthony, Luis Scola, Reggie Jackson
***Melo and Lebron would be crazy. They could play the 3 and 4 as they both have had experience there in the Olympics. They are friends and already have chemistry. They get Scola who does well in the post off the bench, and Reggie Jackson who has the potential to be a high-level starting point in this league. A playoff lineup of Jackson, Shumpert, Lebron, Melo, and Mosgov is potent offensively and defensively.

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26 Nov 2014 04:36:26
I may be in the minority, but as an OKC fan, I feel like it's time to explore Reggie Jackson trades. He holds big value now and could fetch a few complimentary peices. Any potential trades worth looking at?

ChurchPugh

1.) I agree with this


2.) I agree with this as an OKC fan. Also thought we should've traded Jeremy Lamb in the offseason while he still had value. I don't think he has any now


 

 

01 Nov 2014 13:07:15
Thunder have yet to let an up and coming player they drafted (right controlled thru restricted free agency) to walk for nothing. Reggie Jackson is looking like James Harden 2.0 in many ways (six man of the year candidate, wants to start, great potential), and it's my opinion after the extension deadline passing that he should meet the same fate.

With Durant and Westbrook out, we can showcase Reggie and explore the trade market. There are several teams that could bite. Any suggestions?

ChurchPugh

1.) Trade him to the sixers for picks

Pg. Mcw
sg. Jackson
sf. Saric
pf. Noel
c. Embiid


2.) Trade him to the Kings for McLemore and 2015 2nd round pick (which is like a late 1st rounder but at only 500k non guarenteed)


3.) Lol Jbabby do you honestly think Jackson is worth that much?


4.) Jackson is better than McLemore


5.) And he is MUCH BETTER than your boy Shaun Livingston


6.) McLemore has got more potential, and there's no need to bring a warriors player into all of this I never said livingston is better than Jackson, even though I think he is


 

 

17 Oct 2014 17:55:08
Thunder can most likely weather the storm while KD recovers. HOWEVER, they have the ammunition and now the reason to pull a deal. They have a couple substantial expiring deals, plenty of young talent, talented players overseas, and picks. The obvious target is a SF, but what if they looked to upgrade C as well? Any options? Opinions?

ChurchPugh

1.) Make a deal with Denver to get Hickson and either Brewer or Wilson Chandler


 

 

20 Aug 2014 02:16:58
As shown when they shipped Harden off to Houston, the Thunder are not afraid to trade big name guys in order to not lose them for nothing AND build towards the future AND seek a deep, balanced, young roster. Does anyone think Durant would leave?

I am a huge Thunder fan and want a Thunder jersey on Durant's back for the duration of his career. However, if he were to leave, I don't want to lose a top 2 player in the league for absolutely nothing. But does any team have the ammunition to go get Durant?

The only trade I could come up with that I might consider is a trade to the Blazers. Durant and Perk for Batum, Aldridge, and 2 or three first round picks. But I don't know if I can see that happening. So can anyone come up with a trade that would make sense for the Thunder if Durant is intent on leaving?

ChurchPugh

1.) Thunder-Warriors

Thunder get Iggy, Thompson, Bogut
Lineup:
Westbrook/Jackson/Telfair
Thompson/Lamb/Jackson
Iggy/Morrow/Jones
Ibaka/Collison/McGary
Bogut/Adams/McGary
I think this team is much deeper and has all around game

Warriors get Durant, Perkins, Roberson
Lineup:
Curry/Livingston/Nedovic
Barnes/Roberson/Livingston
Durant/FA/Roberson
Lee/Speights/?
Perkins/ONeal


 

 

 

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14 Sep 2020 13:26:35
I literally never want to see Patrick Beverly in a Thunder Jersey.

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31 Aug 2020 14:02:04
I agree, but Schroeder solves so much of their bench scoring. Does a roster of Curry, Klay, Draymond, Schroeder, their #2 pick, etc. actually not contend? Wouldn't they be the favorite? I'd rather have another championship over another draft pick.

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20 Aug 2020 15:50:52
I do like the idea of CP and Griffin on the Knicks.

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26 May 2020 01:39:44
Rkenne_16, I am a die hard thunder guy. If they grab RJ, they have two young guys under team control for like the next 5-10ish years if they give them 5 year extensions after their rookie deals. SGA proved he has star potential and I think RJ has it too. Both are Canadian and can grow a special chemistry long term. They have tons of picks moving forward. Like a crazy amount. Burning a few for a top asset like Barrett is worth the gamble. They can grow together and hopefully get back to a perennial playoff team. They are a small market and won’t win big FA sweepstakes anytime soon and so getting a young guy under team control is massive. Just my thoughts.

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25 May 2020 16:27:15
I am in the minority, but in a Paul to New York deal that includes the Knicks being willing to move Barrett, OKC will want RJ. and they have the ammo in picks to get him. Instead of a Paul to New York deal that includes picks returning to OKC, OKC attaches 1-2 picks to Paul and gets RJ back to pair with fellow Canadian SGA. I think it’s a win for both sides. The pick could go to Indy if they want Oladipo still.

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