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17 Feb 2020 16:38:29
I just posted and I think it's unlikely. What about this instead for this summer.

Okc gets Porter (opt in), Felicio, Markkanen

Chicago gets Paul, filler, Denver 1st

Okc gets a big wing on the final year of his deal, an expiring Felicio who isn't very good, and a potential stud in Markkanen who desperately needs a change of scenery.

Chicago gets a culture change which would be crazy good for them. Paul could start but play less minutes while coaching up White. This team could use his leadership. See what he's done in Okc and watch it unflold in a big time market. Plus, they springboard into the draft with two picks and can build from there.

Thoughts?

ChurchPugh

1.) 17 Feb 2020 18:22:18
Porter Satoranky
for
CP3.


2.) 18 Feb 2020 00:00:11
Not first going to Chicago maybe one coming to okc.


 

 

17 Feb 2020 16:13:07
Only if these two guys are super unhappy this summer.. This is HIGHLY unlikely, but with the Thunder having all these picks and looking good already, I'd love to see them swing for the fences.

OKC out: Paul, Adams, Ferguson, 6 firsts, 2 swap rights
OKC in: Beal, Booker, Turner
***Okc uses most of their picks and bring in two stars to lead the way moving forward. They'd have tons of shooting and all three of these guys are locked up for a few more years together. They can resign Gallinari and move forward with a killer lineup of SGA, Booker, Beal, Gallo, Turner and have Schroeder as their sixth man. That could be nasty.

Wiz get Adams, 3 firsts of their choosing
***Losing Beal would suck, but getting 3 of those firsts could be really nice. I feel like they could get young players AND picks somewhere, but no other team has the bounty of picks that okc has.

Suns get Paul, Ferguson, 3 firsts of their choosing
***Paul could've been the MVP of the all star game last night. He has the most clutch points in the league. He has taken an Okc team past their projected win total for the year BEFORE the all star break. If the Suns want to help coach up their young roster, why not grab Paul who can do just that. I don't think Booker will be happy forever in Phx, so adding three firsts is a great way to move on.

Indy gets Rubio, two first swap rights (Miami/Clips)
***Turner was in rumors this year and this would allow them to move Sabonis to the 5. That slides folks down a spot, and they could play Rubio with Brogdon.

ChurchPugh

1.) 17 Feb 2020 17:07:34
Think Knicks would get one of booker or Beal.


2.) 17 Feb 2020 17:09:35
Barrett and Randle and Knicks 2020 first beats Adams and three first from okc.


3.) 17 Feb 2020 18:23:15
u take Beal. Rose will take his guy Booker.


4.) 18 Feb 2020 00:01:09
Pacers trade an affordable stretch 5 for Rubio? Lol lol.


 

 

14 Feb 2020 01:57:54
Ok this is all hypothetical and verrrry convoluted.... but if Philly fails to meet expectations this year, instead of moving Embiid, maybe they shop Simmons. I think he could create a bigger return OR facilitate a much better fit. Simmons would thrive best with a lineup filled with shooters. So. Why not send him out West to the best shooting team who also happen to be a sleeping giant: the Warriors.

Warriors will be armed with a top 3 pick and a trade-able Wiggins. But I am not suggesting that Wiggins should go to Philly. Philadelphia should get a pure point guard who is ready to win now and squeeze the most out of this current roster. So here's the trade.

Warriors get Ben Simmons

Philly gets Chris Paul, 2 firsts of their choice via okc

Okc gets Andrew Wiggins, GS 2020 first

Warriors get to surround Simmons with crazy good shooters and add a big time defender. With D-Lo on the roster, there was no way to make the most of all the offensive talent. This is a better fit. This helps them return to contention immediately.

Philly gets Paul who is having a fantastic year and looks like he has a little left in the tank. He could do wonders with his passing and shooting. This is a much better on the court fit. The firsts will be late but help recoup some of the future value they lose by dealing Simmons.

Okc sheds salary and consolidate some picks to get another future building block for their young team. They could add sweetener to either other team to make the deal happen. Plus, Wiggins is no slouch and allows SGA to run the point.

How crazy far off would this be? I know it's not perfect but a very interesting hypothetical to me. The big thing is to facilitate what I think is a better fit for both Philly and GS while rewarding OKC.

ChurchPugh

1.) 14 Feb 2020 03:37:01
maybe thunder get the wolves pick and can keep there own.


2.) 14 Feb 2020 07:16:56
That GS pick should go to philly.


3.) 14 Feb 2020 10:23:54
Philly would get way more for Simmons.


4.) 14 Feb 2020 14:57:21
Phili would rather just cut OKC out and take the top 3 pick. Worst case scenario, they could flip it for something way better than Paul.


 

 

06 Feb 2020 10:48:45
Heat trying to get Gallinari/OKC added to the Iggy deal. This will be crazy interesting bc Heat are hard capped and lack picks (have already moved their 2025 1st to Grizz in this deal). I'm assuming if OKC makes a move(s) today it will be to trim their tax bill, so that makes Memphis adding a few million to make it all work.

Any guesses on the framework for this kind of deal? Seems fairly likely.

Thoughts?

ChurchPugh

1.) 06 Feb 2020 13:01:39
I don’t see what players Miami has that okc would want.


2.) 06 Feb 2020 13:06:34
Think Miami sends expiring like Dragic + one of the young rookies (Robinson? ) To OKC which gets OKC under luxury tax as well.

But Miami wants Gallo to sign extension before giving up a young talent on a rookie deal.


3.) 06 Feb 2020 13:23:22
No Pugh, by the time my trade ideas post on this site, the trade will have already happened.

Just sit back, relax and know that in a few short hours, all of your trade posts will mostly be behind you & you can see how it all turned out.


4.) 06 Feb 2020 13:29:21
The ESPN trade machine has me confused. reports indicate the Iggy deal hasn't been completed yet pending a bigger deal (Gallo) being added. yet the trade machine already has iggy on Miami's roster and Winslow on the Grizzlies.
If the trade hasn't closed there are more options available. but you won't be able to put them through the machine to test them.


5.) 06 Feb 2020 14:05:00
Wind. Its because if Gallo falls apart, Iggy is still going to be traded to Miami.


6.) 06 Feb 2020 14:51:53
Taking protections on that 2023 heat pick and a young player most likely Duncan Robinson and others to fill in the salary


 

 

05 Feb 2020 20:51:33
Okc gets Oubre, Saric

Phx gets Gallo, 2020 Denver 1st

ChurchPugh

1.) 05 Feb 2020 22:33:44
Phoenix rather keep Oubre.


2.) 05 Feb 2020 22:57:57
Not even close, Gallo is a free agent this summer and the first has really no value because of how weak this draft is and how late the pick would be.


3.) 06 Feb 2020 03:00:10
T-minus 16 more hours until crazy, unlikely offers get put to rest until the 2020 draft


4.) 06 Feb 2020 10:44:25
Not with shizzee still here, OKC23.


5.) 06 Feb 2020 13:18:09
True Fredman, but he’s a Knicks fan, so you have to cut him some kind of slack.


 

 

 

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22 Jan 2015 18:48:10
Let's Get Crazy.

Thunder get CJ Watson, Tristan Thompson, Cleanthony Early
***Pass first point guard, active young big with potential, prospect on the wing. Balance the roster plus preserve a little cap space in the summer to tinker if need be.

Knicks get Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Solomon Hill
***Two high-level guys who can be something to build on. They don't mesh as well with Lebron as Wade and Bosh did, but they could mesh well together in New York. Love could opt out and leave, but Irving is locked up for years. Plus, they get Hill who could be a productive player.

Pacers get Jason Smith, Jeremy Lamb, Travis Wear, Brandon Haywood, Nick Collison
***This makes them worse in the interim which is fine with George out. This summer, they'll have some cap space with this deal to make some moves and make a run in the East next season. Some of these guys can be waived, but Lamb could be worth holding on to.

Cavs get Carmelo Anthony, Luis Scola, Reggie Jackson
***Melo and Lebron would be crazy. They could play the 3 and 4 as they both have had experience there in the Olympics. They are friends and already have chemistry. They get Scola who does well in the post off the bench, and Reggie Jackson who has the potential to be a high-level starting point in this league. A playoff lineup of Jackson, Shumpert, Lebron, Melo, and Mosgov is potent offensively and defensively.

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26 Nov 2014 04:36:26
I may be in the minority, but as an OKC fan, I feel like it's time to explore Reggie Jackson trades. He holds big value now and could fetch a few complimentary peices. Any potential trades worth looking at?

ChurchPugh

1.) I agree with this


2.) I agree with this as an OKC fan. Also thought we should've traded Jeremy Lamb in the offseason while he still had value. I don't think he has any now


 

 

01 Nov 2014 13:07:15
Thunder have yet to let an up and coming player they drafted (right controlled thru restricted free agency) to walk for nothing. Reggie Jackson is looking like James Harden 2.0 in many ways (six man of the year candidate, wants to start, great potential), and it's my opinion after the extension deadline passing that he should meet the same fate.

With Durant and Westbrook out, we can showcase Reggie and explore the trade market. There are several teams that could bite. Any suggestions?

ChurchPugh

1.) Trade him to the sixers for picks

Pg. Mcw
sg. Jackson
sf. Saric
pf. Noel
c. Embiid


2.) Trade him to the Kings for McLemore and 2015 2nd round pick (which is like a late 1st rounder but at only 500k non guarenteed)


3.) Lol Jbabby do you honestly think Jackson is worth that much?


4.) Jackson is better than McLemore


5.) And he is MUCH BETTER than your boy Shaun Livingston


6.) McLemore has got more potential, and there's no need to bring a warriors player into all of this I never said livingston is better than Jackson, even though I think he is


 

 

17 Oct 2014 17:55:08
Thunder can most likely weather the storm while KD recovers. HOWEVER, they have the ammunition and now the reason to pull a deal. They have a couple substantial expiring deals, plenty of young talent, talented players overseas, and picks. The obvious target is a SF, but what if they looked to upgrade C as well? Any options? Opinions?

ChurchPugh

1.) Make a deal with Denver to get Hickson and either Brewer or Wilson Chandler


 

 

20 Aug 2014 02:16:58
As shown when they shipped Harden off to Houston, the Thunder are not afraid to trade big name guys in order to not lose them for nothing AND build towards the future AND seek a deep, balanced, young roster. Does anyone think Durant would leave?

I am a huge Thunder fan and want a Thunder jersey on Durant's back for the duration of his career. However, if he were to leave, I don't want to lose a top 2 player in the league for absolutely nothing. But does any team have the ammunition to go get Durant?

The only trade I could come up with that I might consider is a trade to the Blazers. Durant and Perk for Batum, Aldridge, and 2 or three first round picks. But I don't know if I can see that happening. So can anyone come up with a trade that would make sense for the Thunder if Durant is intent on leaving?

ChurchPugh

1.) Thunder-Warriors

Thunder get Iggy, Thompson, Bogut
Lineup:
Westbrook/Jackson/Telfair
Thompson/Lamb/Jackson
Iggy/Morrow/Jones
Ibaka/Collison/McGary
Bogut/Adams/McGary
I think this team is much deeper and has all around game

Warriors get Durant, Perkins, Roberson
Lineup:
Curry/Livingston/Nedovic
Barnes/Roberson/Livingston
Durant/FA/Roberson
Lee/Speights/?
Perkins/ONeal


 

 

 

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19 Feb 2020 18:40:07
I think it’s not bad. I think a better question is would there be a team that could make a hypothetical better offer?

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07 Feb 2020 12:57:03
I don't think calling the Knicks as a landing spot for CP3 this summer is unreasonable. Leon Rose just got hired and represents Paul. Could be a good match. Any CP3 deal will get complicated due to money and age tho.

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02 Feb 2020 02:45:17
Saw the same rumor. If a team really wants an Okc player, Presti is going to squeeze every bit of value out of them. Schroeder is part of the best lineup in the nba. He’s a legit sixth man of the year candidate. He’s on a reasonable contract. He’s not too old.

I don’t hate the above deal, but I feel like Sam will ask for more.

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01 Feb 2020 19:08:37
Also, I would LOVE to see a splash like Okc swinging for Booker. but I don’t see a deal to be had.

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01 Feb 2020 15:03:06
Shizzee, I hope you have a really nice day today.

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