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26 Jul 2016 20:15:06

Wolves get Josh Richardson

Heat get Shabazz Muhammad

Wolves get a shooter they need off the bench and the Heat get a guy who could potentially play some PF with Winslow depending on how the Bosh situation plays out.

Not entirely sure on the value of Richardson and I know some people don't think much of Shabazz, but he has shown potential as a scorer and is only 23.


1.) 27 Jul 2016 02:28:43
Wolves need to give more. Richardson plays both offense and defense and is a shooter which the Wolves need. Shabazz wasn't very good last year.

2.) 27 Jul 2016 05:04:33
I couldn't imagine it would be much more, Richardson isn't amazing on defense, better than Shabazz but that's not saying much.

Shabazz was the better scorer, rebounder, and FT shooter.

Plus I see Shabazz as filling a need for Miami, providing more versatility than Richardson in what roles he can fill. And with Shabazz you know the minimum of what you are getting, Richardson's one year might be a fluke.

3.) 27 Jul 2016 05:36:36
Shabazz will also be a free agent next year, the heat would rather have the shooting and the pg/ SG over SF/ PF versatility because at PF they have bosh, mcroberts, Haslem, and Derrick Williams and Luke Babit could play there too. Not to mention they don't have a backup point where Richardson fits. Richardson isn't amazing at defense but very solid.

4.) 27 Jul 2016 05:52:23
^but Shabazz they would at least be able to match contracts, Richardson they won't be able to when he is a free agent in a couple of years,

And the only quality PF they have there is Bosh (maybe) and possibly McRoberts, Shabazz would be an upgrade over Williams and amd most likely Babbitt

Plus Tyler Johnson can play point, especially with the Heat signing both Waiters and Ellington.

5.) 27 Jul 2016 13:55:56
When did Muhammad become a PF? . he's a 2/ 3.

6.) 27 Jul 2016 15:08:24
You're the one who said he could potentially play the 4. I would rather have Derrick Williams over him. It's likely Shabazz will ask for money the Heat aren't willing to match. If Johnson is backup point, it's simple, Richardson is now the 2nd string SG. Ellington is the 5th guard. Heck it wouldn't surprise me if Richardson starts over Waiters in some games.

7.) 27 Jul 2016 16:15:25
@SimmonsOrBust, Shabazz is strong enough to play some small ball PF if needed, not sure I would ever call him a 2

And he is definitly better than Derrick Williams.

8.) 28 Jul 2016 05:40:49
LOL @ Wolvesfan

Miami would never give up a young more talented Wing WITH DEFENSE for an offense ONLY player.

PLUS, Derrick Williams is a PF/ SF. and i smuch better then Shabazz.



19 Jul 2016 20:14:09
OKC gets: Johnson, Smart, Rozier and Young, plus Brooklyn’s 2018 first-round pick and Memphis’ 2019 first-round pick,

Boston gets: Westbrook

Saw this online, what do you think?


1.) 19 Jul 2016 21:23:48
Switch Hunter for Rozier and you have your self a deal!

2.) 20 Jul 2016 00:16:58
Not enough for westbrook.



30 Jun 2016 20:08:59
Wolves free agency

Take a chance on Terrence Jones now that he is an UFA, should come fairly cheap

From here I'm not totally sure:

Marvin Williams would be a good fit, but is a little old for the team and might be too expensive.

Bazemore would be nice as well, but again possibly too expensive

(And only enough space to sign 1 of these 2)

If able to sign Williams, go after Crabbe

If Bazemore, go after Leur or Bass.

Possible lineups (expecting injuries to KG and Pek)

Rubio/ Dunn/ Jones
Lavine/ Crabbe
Wiggins/ Muhammad
Williams/ Jones/ Bjelica/ KG
Towns/ Dieng/ Pek


Rubio/ Dunn/ Jones
Lavine/ Bazemore
Wiggins/ Bazemore/ Shabazz
Bass or Leur/ Jones/ Bjelica/ KG
Towns/ Dieng/ Pek.


1.) 30 Jun 2016 21:06:30
Crabbe is a restricted free agent and filled a nice role with the Blazers. I expect them to resign him or match any offer sheet unless you are overpaying.

2.) 30 Jun 2016 21:13:41
It would probably take 15 million a year to scare Portland away from crabbe. Not sure minny would pay that much with what they have on the horizon with Wiggins, towns, ect.

3.) 30 Jun 2016 23:08:51
I like Crabbe, but if MN is going to spend big money, the should go after Batum. He does so a little of everything.

4.) 01 Jul 2016 00:10:10
I actually don't like batum for minny. Batum has a habit of getting bored and disengaged if he's not a main ball handler. If he's going to be the third ball hander and 3rd or 4th option, I don't think he's as good as he was last year.

I really think someone needs to make him their starting PG. His defense is infinitely better guarding the point than guarding a wing. And he's a very good ball handler and passer. He would create a terrible matchup problem at point.

5.) 01 Jul 2016 01:08:02
Will Crabbe really get that much? I thought it would take less, then they should go after someone cheaper.

6.) 01 Jul 2016 01:32:20
And I'd have to agree with Ben Miller about Batum, just not a good fit on the Wolves, plus there's no need to prevent Towns and Wiggins from developing while being the go to guys.

7.) 01 Jul 2016 02:35:29
The rumor was Sacramento and Phili were considering a 14-15 million offer. I think at 10-12, Portland probably matches, need to make a toxic offer to land him. That's the downfall of restricted free agents.

I think Henderson would be the wing i'd go after from Portland if I'm minny. Great mid range shooter, solid defender, smart vet.

8.) 01 Jul 2016 02:47:03
Batum was fine in Portland behind Lillard and Aldridge for several years. And in a starting lineup of Rubio, Wiggins, Batum, Dieng, and Towns, Batum would be secondary ball handler and third scoring option, a role he thrived with in Portland.

A wing rotation of Wiggins, Batum, and LaVine could be quite good. It would be versitle and each player would bring something different.



17 Jun 2016 05:36:51
Wolves Offseason

Do not trade for Butler.

Some moves will depend on how the draft plays out.

Draft: Bender/ Chriss (preferred scenario) or draft Murray/ Dunn

It would be better if the Wolves could draft a PF as free agency doesn't have a lot to offer for them

Draft PF scenario;

Sign Bazemore 4/ 62

Sign one of Cole/ Augustin/ Brooks

Rubio/ FA/ Jones
Bazemore/ Lavine
Wiggins/ Muhammad
Draft/ Garnett/ Bjelica
Towns/ Dieng/ Pek


Draft Murray/ Dunn:

Sign Bazemore

Sign one of Leur/ Montiejunas/ Terrence Jones (most likely would be Leur)

Rubio/ Draft/ Jones
Bazemore/ Lavine
Wiggins/ Muhammad
Leur/ Garnett/ Bjelica
Towns/ Dieng/ Pek.


1.) 17 Jun 2016 05:44:38
Can KAT or Dieng play the four?

2.) 17 Jun 2016 09:35:34
Kat can.

3.) 17 Jun 2016 13:16:41
Either could play the 4, but Leur would provide more spacing for the starting 5 I think, and Dieng could help strengthen the bench.

4.) 17 Jun 2016 13:16:54
If you not going to make a trade for butler, there isn't a need to overpay for a guy like bazemore. Just let lavine play a ton of minutes and continue to build.

5.) 17 Jun 2016 13:34:18
But the Wolves need a wing (or 2) who can defend and shoot, Bazemore fits because he is a spot up shooter that works best without having to create for himself. If 15/ year is an overpay than the contract will be smaller, but that is a prediction I saw on another article.

Lavine can still develop either as the 6th man, or ahead of Bazemore if he out plays him.

6.) 17 Jun 2016 17:17:01
Its not like Lavine doesn't have the athletic ability to play D. I just think he's spent too much time honing his shot and being force fed the point for the 1st year and half of his career to have been concerned with that end of the floor. He's more undeveloped on that end than unable. Kid could easily become at least average defensively and if he's going to play for Thibs he better. Plus no one played that spectacular in the defensive end for Minny last year. I'd give Thibs at least a year with these guys before making any judgments on who they can or can't be.

7.) 17 Jun 2016 17:25:39
I'm just thinking that getting locked into bazemore for 4 years is pointless when the team's trying to compete for a championship in 2-3 years. He's like a 9th or 10th guy on a contender.



21 Feb 2016 18:25:44
Wolves offseason

I won't say contract numbers because the cap makes it too hard to predict

Garnett retires
Pek retires (injuries)
Buyout or trade Martin for a 2nd

Trade Shabazz for a future first

Sign Terrence Jones
Sign Fournier (or use Shabazz to get him in a sign and trade)

Draft Hield

Rubio/ Jones
Lavine/ Hield
Wiggins/ Fournier/ Rudez
Jones/ Payne/ Bjelica
Towns/ Dieng.


1.) 21 Feb 2016 18:54:24
I think it's realistic, but I'm not a fan.

First, I like the Hield draft, and I'm not unhappy with a first for Bazz (though I might prefer to keep him) . Terrence Jones and Fournier are borderline starters for many teams, but the problem is that this off-season, they are going to have salaries starting at $14-16 mil. If we are going to overpay, I'd prefer to go for better starters, like Batum (who tried to sign here once but was matched), or Harrison Barnes (with his midwest connections) .

I think it's unlikely Pekovic retires. He's guaranteed $24 mil over the next two years, and he hasn't made a whole lot in his career by NBA standards. I imagine he struggles through two more painful seasons. I am indifferent to Martin being bought out this off-season. There will be so many teams with cap space, that the prices for fre agents will be through the roof. If we buy him out his expiring, we may need to replace him with another overpaid free agent, on more years. And of course, since we bought him out, we'll have paid double for the opportunity,

2.) 21 Feb 2016 19:05:29
Jones doesn't seem to me to be a guy who will get that much money

I suggest trading Shabazz because he doesn't really seem to fit the style of the team, I think he can be a good player, but he needs to be in control of the ball

I like Batum and Barnes, but I don't think the Wolves should spend that much on one player, at least this way they get 2 productive players for what will probably be close to the price of Batum.

And I realize Pek probably won't retire, that's my own personal hope to get out of that contract.

3.) 21 Feb 2016 19:48:00
I say just forget Fournier and just keep Shabazz as backup SF. It would be nice if Pekovic retired but very unlikely. And Jones won't get $14-16 million. Maybe more like $10-$13 million.

4.) 21 Feb 2016 20:25:22
Fournier is a better shooter than Shabazz, which this team desperately needs.

5.) 21 Feb 2016 21:45:10
I don't see point in drafting Hield while LaVine is still there (that was part of the reason behind trading him for Turner) . Especially wasting high pick on him while being able to get Batum or Barnes, even Fournierin FA. (although I'd target only Barnes)
Bender, Brown, even Ellenson or Rabb are better choices in my opinion.
I like Shabazz as sixth man if Lavine is starter, wouldn't trade him for pick.
MIN has opportunity to set up real dynasty for over a decade, they shouldn't be looking for shortcuts, hurrying it up, with short term solutions, or settle for worse cases; prolong it for a year if it means better balanced and more talented team in long turn.
I'd settle only for best possible talent on each position. And they already are well covered, need to find one big and wing.

6.) 22 Feb 2016 00:45:39
Min should keep shabazz, he may not be a star/ starter but be can be solid off the bench.




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03 Sep 2016 13:37:24
Wolves pass easily.




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02 Sep 2016 13:45:53
No, the original process went like this:

Bucks wanted Rubio.

Wolves demanded Middleton be apart of any trade for Rubio

Bucks decided this was too high of an asking price

Wolves dangled their pick (with or without protections we don't actually know)

Bucks still said no

And we have no idea what other pieces may have been invlolved.




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02 Sep 2016 03:15:24

The deal was Rubio and a 1st for Middleton, Dieng was never a part of the deal.




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02 Sep 2016 03:09:54
No, Wolves wouldn't give up that package dor Butler, they certainly wouldn't do it for that.




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01 Sep 2016 13:04:56
Wolves pass.





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19 Jan 2017 04:55:26
Nothing the Wolves get here is worth a top 10 pick, let alone including Rubio and Jones




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24 Aug 2016 13:14:21
Love has more value than that.

This past year he, averaged 16 and 10 as the 3rd option. Sure his shooting percentages is down, but he is being asked to take more 3s than he used to.

Let's not forget that just 2 years ago he averaged 26 and 12.




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18 Aug 2016 16:44:19
And hamburger, I doubt Rubio gets injured more often as he gets older.

His 2 injuries haven't been chronic things, one was an ACL tear, the other a high anke sprain.




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18 Aug 2016 16:42:10
Sorry, I was asking hamburger not Winston.




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18 Aug 2016 14:56:58

Wolves (of course)
Magic (if you like Payton's style)

If Harden could improve his jump shot I'd say Houston, but otherwise no

New Orlean? (not sure on this one)
Clippers? ( obviously not starting over Paul, but still)

I feel like the Bucks would make it work somehow also and the Nets could always use another good player.