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03 Sep 2022 04:43:35
lakers get Bogdonavich, Malik Beasley,Jordan Clarkson, Kenrich Williams , 2025 2nd (BOS/MEM) via OKC

Jazz get russ, 2027 1st unprotected lakers, 2029 unprotected 1st lakers, 2023 2nd (DALorMIA) via OKC

OKC 2023 1st top 13 protected (MIN) via Jazz

ahooper

1.) 03 Sep 2022 12:23:10
Why would the Jazz give that pick. They better donit without OKC involved.


2.) 05 Sep 2022 04:11:14
Those all are unprotected picks (high value) for mediocre players that would not net unprotected key word here picks from a team with an uncertain future.


 

 

22 Aug 2022 06:33:40
More ideas for you brilliant basketball minds

Spurs trade poeltl richardson mcdermott

Lakers trade unprotected 2027 and russ

Lets try put these high basketball iqs to use why or why not ?

ahooper

1.) 22 Aug 2022 11:50:15
It appears that the market has been telling the Lakers it will take both the 27 and 29 picks to get off Westbrook. Why would the Spurs do this at less than market price?


2.) 22 Aug 2022 12:35:18
I think it take one 1st to move Westbrook, but Poetl is worth a first too.

I don't think La would trade 2 first rounders and only getting Poetle back.


3.) 22 Aug 2022 14:36:11
The market is telling the Lakers it will take 2 firsts to move Westbrook, Poeltl Richardson and McDermott together are worth at least a 1st, Lakers don't have 3 firsts. Lakers are better off either keeping Westbrook or trading him for another bad contract player.


4.) 22 Aug 2022 16:42:25
No way poeltl is worth an UNPROTECTED first but possible they need to throw in seconds to make this work. Two unprotected firsts has been the asking price for a star or deals that have more valuable players . Maybe throw in some seconds? Spurs want to tank if you look at their recent moves these players could hurt their chances at being in last place which has got to be their goal given the garbage roster . Poeltl is a slow footed big who doesn’t shoot 3s.


5.) 22 Aug 2022 16:44:31
The market never said it would take two unprotected firsts just to get off Westbrook ( not even last year) also he’s an expiring contract this year.


6.) 22 Aug 2022 22:14:26
The "unprotected" part is the additional $12 mil in salary that the Spurs will have to pay this year (and the luxury tax relief the Lakers receive for not paying the luxury tax on that $12 mil) .

You ate focusing on the player values and missing the nearly $30 mil that this trade will save the Lakers.


7.) 23 Aug 2022 00:57:11
Westbrook is an expiring so throw in cash considerations.


8.) 23 Aug 2022 01:00:28
Because of the luxury tax? Because the salaries are an 11m difference.


9.) 23 Aug 2022 05:21:24
Lakers are at a x2 multiplier for luxury tax payment because of repeated seasons being over the luxury tax line. So it would be $11 mil in salary + $22 mil in luxury tax savings. Would you give up an unprotected first for that kind of savings. Yes, most teams would.


 

 

19 Aug 2022 21:30:46
More trade ideas

Okc receives mathurin (better fit not going to pretend like Ik how good he's going to be ) let shai run more pick and roll and give jaylin Williams opportunities also

Pacers get giddey they didn't have a secondary playmaker next to Halliburton they also have a stretch big in turner good fit

Trade #2

Cavs get buddy hield get a movement shooter which they do not currently have

Pacers get sexton in sign and trade they get a scorer off the bench but start Duarte at sg

Pacers
Hali/giddey/tj
Duarte/sexton/nesmith
Giddey/ Duarte/ nesmith/ brissett
Jalen smith/ jackson/brissett
Turner/ jackson/ goga

Cavs
Garland / rubio/ levert
Levert /hield/okoro
Lauri//okoro/osman/hield
Mobley/love/osman
Allen/love/mobley

Sga / williams
Mathurin/ mann
Dort/ / kenrich
Chet/ bazley
Favors/ muscala

ahooper

1.) 19 Aug 2022 22:50:24
OKC says no to #1. Cavs say no to #2. We don't need Hield, there needs to be a first in that deal as well.


2.) 20 Aug 2022 00:18:30
So hield doesn’t help your team? Okc may say no that’s fair.


3.) 20 Aug 2022 15:23:59
@ahooper the value isn't bad but we're stacked at SG with LeVert, Okoro & Agbaji. There aren't any minutes for Hield.


4.) 22 Aug 2022 03:11:04
Ok pro could play some 3 maybe even some 4 in small ball lineups and who knows what agbaji will be okoros 3 ball hasn’t been pretty so far levert is far from knockdown and can slide to 1-3.


5.) 22 Aug 2022 03:12:02
And cabs are just trading a smaller sg for a bigger one here my guy.


 

 

08 Aug 2022 03:54:34
Lakers: kyrie, boucher
Nets: turner , gary Trent , og, buddy hield, McConnell 2023 1st , 2025 1st, 2027 1st (all from TOR)
Raps: kd , Seth curry, cam Thomas , Oshae briesett
Pacers: Westbrook 2027 1st lakers 2029 lakers 1st

ahooper

1.) 09 Aug 2022 00:20:01
Boucher can't be traded for a minute or two because he was just resigned. i'd almost bite for the raptors, but i'm glad the nets would say no because there's just not enough picks involved. i like the idea of brooklyn sending both malcontents in the same deal, because then they can make it a 3 team deal and get something extra for the Lakers to allow them to save face with trading away both 1st rounders.


 

 

09 Apr 2022 19:20:41
Jazz- rj barrett, Alec burks, obi toppin , 2 1st and one 1st pick swap


Knicks - Donovan Mitchell, Eric paschal

Conley/burks
Barrett/Clarkson
Royce/ Alexander walker/gay
Bojan/toppin/gay
Rudy/fa/toppin

Quickley/Rose
Mitchell/grimes
Founier/reddish
Randle/pashcall
Sims/noel

ahooper

1.) 09 Apr 2022 22:15:40
too much for NY to give.


2.) 09 Apr 2022 22:42:18
I think the Jazz can do better.


3.) 10 Apr 2022 17:06:59
Too much?!? This is like absolute bare minimum.


4.) 10 Apr 2022 19:14:23
not enough for Donovan Mitchell.


5.) 11 Apr 2022 12:07:57
i think it's a pretty fair trade

The Jazz should only do this if Mitchell really wants out.
Getting a star is great for the Knicks, i'm not high on trading Barrett, but getting Mitchell is worth it.


 

 

 

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17 Sep 2021 22:00:49
Nobody been talking about it but if wall gets bought out I see denver as a good fit with murray's injury and versatility to score comfortably off the ball as well

ahooper

1.) 17 Sep 2021 23:41:33
It’s a decent fit since Murray can slide to SG

But idk the chance since they have 4 PGs, one being a 1st round pick this year.


2.) 18 Sep 2021 12:44:09
Wall running the offense or Jokic running the offense?


3.) 19 Sep 2021 08:24:58
Wall getting bought out before next summer isn’t logical for owner that is trying to cut salary and save. Buyouts are usually 85% of the money owed.


 

 

13 Nov 2020 10:20:02
IND-HOU-MEM-CHI

chicago gets: vic oladipo, grayson allen, guduric, IND 1st 2021, IND 2nd 2021
indiana gets: eric gordon, covington, markannen, B. clarke
Mem gets: Lavine
Hou gets: Myles Turner, Kyle Anderson

Indiana adds a bunch of quality players to compete for championship with well rounded team.
Memphis adds a 3rd young star to play with morant and jackson
Chicago gets a new franchise cornerstone in dipo shooting guard to play with white for years to come along with some picks and a potential big time 6th man in grayson allen.
Houston adds a young center who can also stretch the floor and a reliable wing still getting better

ahooper

1.) 13 Nov 2020 13:21:38
No from Memphis.


 

 

03 Nov 2020 19:53:18
Send Blake Griffin to Denver/Toronto/Houston OR Brooklyn

Help me out here fellas

ahooper

1.) 03 Nov 2020 21:22:59
Blake Griffin has negative trade value at the moment. I don’t think it’s wise for the Pistons to sell low on him. I think they’ll hold on to him for another year and look at trading him next offseason when he’s an expiring contract and hopefully coming off of a good season.


 

 

03 Nov 2020 10:01:07
idk how to but somebody find a deal to send either Derozan or Blake to Denver

ahooper

1.) 03 Nov 2020 13:25:36
Harris+Barton+a 1st or 2 for DeRozan+Lyles.


 

 

 

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03 Dec 2022 04:14:03
winning -> value.
This trade makes the suns franchise significantly more valuable

but yeah on another note I cant speak on what I don't know like what is or isn't currently authorized from within the suns organization.

warriors weren't valued too high until they won't all those championships. Id say their organization would probably sell a couple pennies more than the Thunder who have the most draft picks in the nba but yeah another early playoff exit would be cool too I guess.

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03 Dec 2022 04:08:24
Derozan would have even better production with the spacing kp provides as a reliable and good volume 3pt shooter.

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03 Dec 2022 00:03:26
wiz may need avdija defensively if they're looking to move into elite tier with Derozan they should be sending Johnny Davis instead . maybe another pick if necessary.

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03 Dec 2022 00:00:28
because the pacers have 3 first round picks in 2023 they would prefer distant picks for sure. Value wise makes sense but I don't think Pacers want to trade Turner unless he isn't going to extend/ resign. While he's expressed unhappiness in past he may be feeling better playing with Haliburton.

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11 Nov 2022 18:47:17
Floor spacing of Davis Simmons and DeRozan isn't ideal.

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