26 Jan 2016 16:24:05
Love is in the air

BOS-CLE

(two starters, but also bench big with some range, and fine prospect; BOS gets star without loosing picks, and opens starting pos for younger players (Smart, Young)

Love
Crowder, Bradley, Sullinger, Hunter


Irving-Bradley-Crowder-James-Mozgov
Smart-Thomas-Young-Love-Johnson.

1.) 26 Jan 2016
26 Jan 2016 16:57:42
While i think Cleveland would take this deal. I doubt the celtics would have much interest. I wouldn't take this deal. They are losing 2-3 starters, along with two of the best contracts in the league. Plus Love wouldn't "fit" with the C's Defence first mentality. He also would be another big who doesn't play defence/ and hangs around the 3 point line. After saying all this, it's a fair deal i just hope it doesn't happen.

2.) 26 Jan 2016
26 Jan 2016 17:04:28
Lol big hell no from the Celtics.

3.) 26 Jan 2016
26 Jan 2016 17:32:26
If i were to match the Hornets deal you just posted and matched the value of those players with a Celtics deal this is what it would look like. (Just so you know the Celtics players are actually good)

Batum=Crowder Almost equal. Batum averages .5pts and 4 assists more but Crowder shoots better from the floor and 3 and may be a better defender

Williams=Sullinger Sully averages more pts (barely) and more rebounds but Williams shoots better and is a little more flexible.

Hawes=Lee/ Zeller Lee beats Hawes in every area except 3pts shooting and D. Zeller is a more traditional C and if given more opportunities could equal Lee and play better D.

If you think that the Hornets players are a little better okay. Celtics add the Mavs first and return both the 2nd round picks we have from the cavs.

Same value and this is without Bradley. Please respond i would like to see your view. (ps i actually like you and don't hate. haha its good to see a different perspective. Plus its fun to debate. )

4.) 26 Jan 2016
26 Jan 2016 17:55:46
Well, Batum is for me slightly better overall then Crowder (like player, not looking at contract), is better off player, able to create for himself and others (which isn't Crowder strong side), and slightly worse def.
I'd prefer him especially because of M. Williams, excellent defender (at least this season), and a fine shooter who'd fit nicely along LeBron and Batum. (they will be very good on D, with Batum being more help on offense) . I think he is much better player and fit than Sullinger, who isn't that good on D.

But in context of my offer Batum would be above Bradley, Crowder above Williams, and Hawes being more or less equal to Sullinger (I'd prefer Sully a bit more, but still), I can admit Hunter is extra player in offer.
That said, Sully can go by himself, or Jerebko instead of two of them, especially with Mozgov staying in CLE.

5.) 26 Jan 2016
26 Jan 2016 18:12:49
PS, of course, I appriciate suggestions, critique.

6.) 26 Jan 2016
26 Jan 2016 18:55:50
i can understand the Batum over Crowder but the drop off for Bradley to williams along with the drop off of Hawes and Sully is too much. either way the cavs and C's won't deal most likely. I am open to trading Bradley and Sully. Crowder not so much.

7.) 26 Jan 2016
26 Jan 2016 19:21:31
I think Williams is bit underrated given his level of perofrmance this season. But looking overall, BOS players are better deal given they are two, three years younger and on better deals.

8.) 26 Jan 2016
26 Jan 2016 19:41:55
Ill give you the underrated point. Ill be honest haven't watched much of him i'm more focused on Kemba and Jefferson (when he actually plays)