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07 May 2022 16:20:38
Three team trade:

Washington gets D'Angelo Russell
Detroit gets Kyle Kuzma and KCP
Minnesota gets a future 2nd round pick from Washington

Washington gets a PG to pair with Beal
Detroit gets a still young PF and a veteran shooter on an expiring contract (who can be flipped for assets)
Minnesota gets near max cap space to go after a FA PG like Brunson or Tyus Jones.


1.) 07 May 2022 16:47:28
You don't just give Dlo like that.

2.) 07 May 2022 17:20:31
I'm sure they can get at least a little more for Russell.

3.) 07 May 2022 17:21:20
Minny "salary dumping" Russell seems questionable especially considering the Free Agent class for the 2023-24 offseason.

Detroit also already has 13 players under contract + a (probably) top 4 draft pick to add to the roster. Not convinced taking on KCP + Kuzma is best use of their cap space. They would probably do better making their own max offer on better talent like Bridges or Ayton.

4.) 07 May 2022 21:32:27
so you rather have a 2nd round pick for Russell then having an expiring contract in Westbrook?

5.) 08 May 2022 00:49:14
This is a trade that only makes sense if they already have a commitment from someone like Brunson. You can’t give DLo away for hopes.

6.) 08 May 2022 00:56:51
Ca - yes.

7.) 08 May 2022 02:51:55
Just because the wolves are potentially going to look at moving dlo, doesn’t mean they have to this off season. They can definitely do better than a 2nd, of which they already have 3 this year. If they can’t find a better deal over the summer, they can hold out until the trade deadline.

8.) 09 May 2022 00:01:09
Ca - dlo is already an expiring contract next season. I’d much rather just hold on to him than bring on Westbrook.



06 May 2022 12:39:28
How about this trade?

Minnesota gets Hardaway and Brunson in a S&T.

Dallas gets Russell, Beasley, and a future 1st round pick from Minnesota.

Dallas saves future money by getting players on expiring deals (Beasley has a team option for 23-24). Russell can play next to Doncic and share both the scoring and ballhandling.

Minnesota gets a PG who if more of a pass first player at the expense of taking on a larger contract in Hardaway.


1.) 06 May 2022 13:53:00
Seems like an overpayment for Brunson to me.

2.) 06 May 2022 15:46:54
Russell alone has more value than that Mavs package.

3.) 07 May 2022 00:54:40
I agree with others this is an overpayment for Brunson. Until Hardaway can prove he can play post injury, that contract is a negative asset.



02 May 2022 15:22:09
Three team trade between New York, Minnesota, and Indiana

New York gets D'Angelo Russell
Indiana gets Malik Beasley, Taj Gibson, Leandro Bolmaro, and a future 1st round pick from Minnesota
Minnesota gets Evan Fournier, Nerlens Noel, and Malcolm Brodgon

New York gets PG who is on an expiring contract. They can then take a stab in 2023 on free agents
Indiana gets a young shooter, a promising young player, and a first round pick
Minnesota takes on money to get a big who can be a better backup to Towns, but also play alongside him. Brodgon is probably a better fit, as he is more team oriented than Russell. Fournier replaces Beasley as the backup wing.


1.) 02 May 2022 17:52:38
I like this trade.

2.) 03 May 2022 04:00:55
I'm wondering why New York wouldn't just deal for Brogdan. if they are keeping Thibs Brogdan's defense would appeal to him more than Russell's offense. and I don't think the fan base will want to hear about how well they have positioned themselves for free agency "next year" again.

3.) 03 May 2022 06:09:07
Idk how I feel about it for Twolves. After this they won’t have a playmaker to run the offense, Brogdon is best off-ball.

4.) 03 May 2022 11:46:54
I don’t see the wolves trading dlo and Beas on 1 year deals for Brodgon (injuries) and Fournier (declining play) on 4 year deals. I think they’ll likely wait until the trade deadline to move Russell.

5.) 03 May 2022 17:39:44
BeerBrewer - I would love for the Wolves to be able to trade Russell and then bring back Tyus Jones. Hero ball in the 4th quarter killed them against Memphis. Getting a team 1st PG should be their top priority in the off season.

6.) 04 May 2022 03:41:48
I agree there are many better things they can do with $30m, but there is just 1 year left on his deal. I’d rather they let him expire than bring in more bad money on longer deals. I don’t know what Tyus will cost. He’s definitely played himself into a raise.



23 Mar 2022 13:25:25
Couple of ideas for Portland if they plan on keeping Lillard. This is also assuming Portland's 1st round picks stay the same (7 and 10 right now).

Houston gets pick 7
Portland gets Woods and pick 16

Detroit gets pick 10, Bledsoe, and Little
Portland gets Grant


1.) 23 Mar 2022 14:46:06
wood doesn't have that much value. Portland can get another player for cheaper or they can get better player for that pick.

2.) 23 Mar 2022 15:41:36
I wouldn’t give up 10 and Little for Grant. Little was really starting to break out before he got hurt, I value him too much for this. If anything, I’m not sure Grant even has the value of a lottery pick, I’d consider asking for a minor asset back for that pick.

The Wood trade is enticing. I feel like I’d both love and hate it at the same time.

Assuming Portland could hold Little and resign Simons, I think coming out of the offseason with Grant and Wood would be a very solid offseason if they want to compete as soon as possible.

3.) 23 Mar 2022 19:33:28
whether we agree or not, its very likely that will actually be the trade. Little, Bledsoe and probably Keon Johnson or Justice Winslow and the 10th pick for Jerami Grant and a throw in like Frank Jackson or Hamidou Diallo and possibly a future 2nd rounder.

i know its a fantasy trade site but i am being more realistic on what Detroit's asking price is, who Portland sees expendable and how badly they want to add Grant plus he grew up in Portland and is really good friends with Dame and they won a gold medal together.

bottom line is Grant will step in for Little, who Portland had at PF anyway but he can play his position at SF in Detroit. Portland gets a couple of better throw ins (Hami and Frank are younger and cheaper than Bledsoe) and Detroit gets the 10th pick as the centerpiece for facilitating and agreeing to this. it would be a solid business decision for both franchises at this point in time.

4.) 23 Mar 2022 19:47:02
Bmiller66 to your point, on paper it might not look that enticing especially since Little is overvalued by most Portland fans and the 10th pick in this draft will be a serviceable rotation player more likely than a future star.

but if it happens and the Blazers have a healthy Lillard, get Nurkic back, add Grant, Simons keeps improving, Josh Hart is looking pretty good and he and Grant are 2 above average defenders. you still have young guys like Watford, Elleby, Williams, etc. coming off the bench and that team is winning and looking like a playoff team next year, people will say "i cannot believe we ripped Detroit off by getting Grant for only Little and whoever they drafted at 10!"

Lillard/ McCollum was a nice tandem but Lillard/ Simons/ Hart/ Grant/ Nurkic (maybe the Blazers upgrade at Center) is going to be better defensively and more balanced.

Grant can give you 20 points a night and if Lillard is your PG then Grant is a nice complement as a 2nd option. he may not be an all star (and Little might not end up being one either) Grant may not pass or rebound very well but he can create for himself he is athletic a good finisher and draws a lot of fouls, he is a better 3 point shooter than his stats say most of those misses look decent and he can guard 3-5 or the opposing teams best big and hold his own. if he plays off ball with one of the top PGs in the league, they will be just fine and the fit is really good. Dame has enough young guys he needs someone a little bit older to help him out with floor general and locker room duties.

5.) 23 Mar 2022 21:24:03
What’s funny is that I just saw a Portland post on Twitter where the idea of swapping Little for Grant (no pick) was killed as a horrible idea for Portland.

Little might be slightly overrated by Blazer fans, but I think you’re badly undervaluing him or severely overvaluing Grant.

At the end of the day, if Bledsoe, Little, Johnson, and a first is the asking price from Detroit, it’s a hilarious request and an emphatic no from me.

6.) 23 Mar 2022 22:08:38
the thing is you and other Portland fans may not like it, but Dame wants his close friend Jerami on the team. unless Portland is trading Dame and starting a full rebuild, they WILL pursue Grant this summer. Blazers fans might not like giving up Little and a lottery pick but if it happens its because they want to keep Lillard happy and make a playoff push next season.

Bmiller66 the way you want to hold onto Little for dear life, sounds like you are ready to trade Lillard and see them start a full on rebuild. let me ask you, if that were to happen, who would your centerpiece be right now? Simons or Little? Grant brings 20 ppg and very good defense. would you rather have Little try to develop into that? cause if your answer is yes, you must want the Blazers to rebuild.

7.) 23 Mar 2022 23:50:13
I don’t want to give up a starting caliber wing plus a lottery pick for a nice player that isn’t a #2 caliber player.

I’m not hold onto Little for dear life. Just not for the nominal upgrade that is Grant. He’s just not that good. I think Portland can find a better player (Randle) for that pick without giving up Little too if that’s what it comes down to.

Grant absolutely should not be near the top of Portland’s list this offseason. If he’s by far the best pickup of the offseason, it’s a pretty blah offseason.

And I’d absolutely rather have a rookie that’s picked at 10 and Little over just Grant. Because I think Grant isn’t enough of a game changer to be worth that much potential.

8.) 24 Mar 2022 01:29:15
I think the trade for Grant only makes sense if Blazers can get a big FA this off-season. No reason to trade 2/ 3 young assets for a player that I don’t think is a top 3 option on a championship team.

9.) 24 Mar 2022 06:05:34
Little + #10 pick would not be enough to get Randle. it IS enough to get Grant.

if you want Randle, the Knicks will not budge from Simons on top of Little and the pick. is Randle really a Simons better than Grant?

also, Dame wants his good buddy Jerami and if Portland wants to keep Dame then they trade for him.

i just don't see how you can say Grant is not good enough. you are thinking with a rebuild mentality rather than a compete next season mentality.

keep in mind, the package might include more than Little and that draft pick because there will be other teams bidding for Grant this offseason. i don't know what you have against him. the league values him MUCH more than the NBA fanbase. i seriously don't get it. are people THAT mad that someone came to Detroit, broke out and has trade value that might help accelerate the rebuild? lol ridiculous. DvE!

10.) 24 Mar 2022 06:30:52
It’s not having something against him Bc he went to Detroit. You just don’t trade 1/ 2 good young players plus a top 10 pick for someone who’s best suited as a 4th option on a championship team. They’re goal is not to be a 1st round exit again.

11.) 24 Mar 2022 07:14:23
Bledsoe (salary) Little and 2 2nds for Grant. This is what the Portland should be offering (best offer), if Detroit declines and ask for more then thanks.

12.) 24 Mar 2022 08:37:06
Grant is not an efficient offensive player. He’s not an elite defender. If you put him on GS, he’s the worst starter by a wide margin. He’s a nice player. He’s not an elite player.

NY asking for Simons would be a hilarious joke. 10 and Little might even be a stretch. He’s also a fairly inefficient offensive player and a bad defender. I like him more than Grant, but not enough to mortgage the future.

Worst case scenario, I’d happily go into next season with two high end rookies, young guys (Simons, Little, Watford), some solid vets (Hart, Winslow, FA-to-be-named), and Dame and see how things go. That’s better than giving up the farm for a third option in Grant.



05 Feb 2022 16:14:54
Simple trade

Minnesota gets Mike Muscala

OKC gets Jake Layman and a 2022 2nd round pick

Minnesota gets some frontcourt depth and an upgrade over Reid

OKC gets a draft pick for a plyer who is probably not part of their future plans.


1.) 19 Feb 2022 18:32:39
This is the the type of small, realistic trade that I could have seen Minnesota doing,

Good job, Carl.




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16 Jul 2014 13:40:55
To all of the fans for the teams trying to trade for Kevin Love. If the situation was reversed, and you had to trade a top 10 player, are these the deals you would want your GM to make?

Golden State fans, if you had to trade Seth Curry, would you take the type of offer Golden State is making for Love?

If you are honest with yourselves and take your team blinders of, you will of course answer will a resounding NO. That is, if you are an honorable person.


1.) But you can also loose him for nothing the longer you wait things can get bad how about love gets injured in october then you getting nothing



15 Jul 2014 15:19:58
Teams trying to trade for Kevin Love need to remember 3 things.

1. Your team is not the only one after Love.
2. Minnesota does not have to trade Love to your team.
3. These lowball offers for Love (and they are lowball) can probably be had at anytime. So Minnesota would probably take one of these lowball offers, but at the trade deadline. And if you think your team has the best lowball offer, don't hope that Minnesota will take that one.

Tuesday morning thoughts.




14 Jul 2014 00:28:53
To all Golden State fans and Cleveland fans.

It is a very simple. If you want Love, you have to include Thompson (Golden State) or Wiggins (Cleveland).

Flip has already said he will go into the season with Love if he doesn't get a deal he likes and take his chances with Love next year.

You don't get a great player by giving up busts, junk, overpaid players, and late 1st round picks.




12 Jul 2014 01:38:07
I wonder if Minnesota can get Klay Thompson without giving up Kevin Love. let's see, Martin, Muhammad, and Mbah a Moute should be enough to get it done, right? I mean, Golden State gets an expensive veteran to replace the player they are giving up, plus a young player who looks like a bust, and a bench player.

This is how Golden State fans look to Minnesota fans when posting Kevin Love trade ideas that don't include Minnesota getting Klay Thompson or Minnesota giving up their lottery pick.

Suck, don't it.




02 Jul 2014 21:30:37
With Chris Bosh opting out in Miami only to resign there at a discount, I think he is leaving a lot of money on the table.

I think he was supposed to make 40 million over the next 2 years and will instead be paid 55 million over the next 5, as reported.

If he didn't opt out and instead choose free agency in 2016 at the age of 32, I think he could have gotten a 4 year deal for at least 12 million per year.

To ad that up, opting out and resigning in Miami is 5 years, 55 million while opting in would mean 88 million over 6 years.

That means he is leaving more than 30 million on the table for LeBron to get a max.





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26 May 2022 22:13:00
No way I'd trade the 4th pick for John Collins if I was Sacramento.




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26 May 2022 03:55:12
Wiggins made the all star team by default because all the wings in the western conference missed time and he didn't play terrible.




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24 May 2022 21:01:16
If by long term you mean a 3 year minimum deal that are all team options.




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24 May 2022 14:43:50
You have to be over the cap to use the MLE.




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24 May 2022 14:42:03
Sorry, Dort isn't good enough to move up that far.





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