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23 Aug 2020 22:20:02
Really feel that the Simmons-Embiid experiment is at and end.

Philly trades Embiid
GSW trades Wiggins, #2 pick and GSW 2021 first

Simmons/ Richardson/ Wiggins/ Harris/ Horford (Wiseman? )

Curry/ Thompson/ Bazemore (MLE) / Green/ Embiid.

Fredman

1.) 23 Aug 2020 22:53:13
overpaid Wiggins, #2 pick in weak draft and late first?
For top 3 center in the league?

This would be even more stupid than how the front office constructed phi roster. But they would want a lot more.


2.) 23 Aug 2020 22:57:48
Simmons should play powerforward

Can Cleveland get involved?

Cle: #2 (draft Wiseman)

Philly: Sexton+ # 5 (draft Avdija)


3.) 23 Aug 2020 23:29:06
Love that Bazemore signing. Harkless could be a good candidate too.


4.) 23 Aug 2020 23:41:04
Does philly take wiseman and have the same problem? Or go for lamelo or edwards? I personally think wolves taking edwards?


5.) 23 Aug 2020 23:51:04
Nowhere near enough for Embiid. A 2nd Pick and late 1st and Wiggins? Get outta here.


6.) 24 Aug 2020 00:20:30
Embiid would be perfect for the dubs given his ability to shoot and his aggressive playstyle. Not to mention he sets killer screens which is always good for players like steph. That being said, I think lots of teams can offer more by including a young potential star. The 2nd pick is a good asset but the warriors would need to give more for this trade to be realistic.
I’m sure the sixers would have no issue keeping Embiid if they can’t get more than that.


7.) 24 Aug 2020 00:53:37
There's still two guys who can't shoot on that roster (Horford and Simmons) . If I'm Philly I trade Simmons.


8.) 24 Aug 2020 01:12:05
I actually think Fredman posted a very fair trade. Embiid misses a lot of time. A lot of time. He's a top three center when he plays, which is half the time. Philly has babied Embiid and Simmons. People forget how young Wiggins still is. He's always been overshadowed by Towns. I think he could really put up some numbers in the East. Plus another high pick to develop with him and another pick next year. If Philly can get more for Embiid, then get it but Fredman's trade is good for both teams.


9.) 24 Aug 2020 01:31:48
Agree with Doza on trading Simmons. Philly is in a very bad financial situation, too. Unless the owner wants to lose millions over the next five years with an average team in the East, Philly is going to have to start trading Embiid, Simmons, Harris, Horford and Richardson for the best deal that comes along. Can't keep Embiid as he's not going to be happy on a rebuilding team. Time for a full blown tear down. I don't see any other option with those high salaries on a team that's not very good.


10.) 24 Aug 2020 01:38:54
Excuse me did u just say horford can’t shoot? That’s just ignorant to his game. He is one of the best team players In the league. Sure the sixers over payed him but he contributes to winning if he gets to play center. He was forced to play pf. Abt the bad shooting, .350 3pt percentage on 4.2 attempts per game is good. Better than embiid in fact.


 

 

22 Aug 2020 02:21:18
Surprised no one has thrown this one out yet.

Minny trades #1, #17, Culver, Johnson (expiring)

Phoenix trades Booker.

Phoenix drafts Edwards and Precious

Rubio/ Edwards/ Oubre/ Precious/ Ayton.

Fredman

1.) 22 Aug 2020 03:15:10
Don’t forget 10th pick as well. They can draft a PG with that pick.


2.) 22 Aug 2020 03:59:50
I think Phoenix would want okogie too but otherwise good trade.


3.) 22 Aug 2020 14:57:54
Because it will never happen. Phx isn't trading booker. Edward's is a project but because this draft is so bad he's a poss. #1 pick. In a good draft he may not even be a lottery pick. U could offer 5 first rounders in this draft and Phx would still be losing.


4.) 22 Aug 2020 22:27:31
Totally agree with Skills.


 

 

21 Aug 2020 02:55:20
#2 pick + $17 mil trade exception for Bogdanovich S&T + #12 pick

Or

#2 pick + Wiggins for Hield + #12?

Fredman

1.) 21 Aug 2020 03:54:58
I think Hield + #12 might be a slight overpay considering Wiggins' contract. What about #2 + Wiggins for Hield, Holmes, #35, assuming Edwards goes #1 and the Kings would be getting a Center in Wiseman at #2 anyway?


2.) 21 Aug 2020 04:34:37
1st trade isn't helping GS. 2nd trade is better.


3.) 21 Aug 2020 06:32:46
Wiggens and Hield both over paid 3ed tier players.


 

 

13 Aug 2020 15:13:57
Just going to toss this one out there.

Philly trades Horford+Scott

Washington trades Wall.

Fredman

1.) 13 Aug 2020 15:49:42
Incredibly risky move for Phili, but could be a great one too. If Wall comes back at even 75% of what he was, he’d put them into the top tier of the league.


2.) 13 Aug 2020 15:51:37
Helluva toss.


3.) 13 Aug 2020 16:34:15
Throw Simmons and Beal in and I like it. I don’t think you can have Wall, Simmons and Embiid on the court together.


4.) 13 Aug 2020 17:48:43
Wall and Simmons pairing? Ew.


5.) 13 Aug 2020 19:29:47
rkenne16, would you rather have Wall, Simmons, Embiid on the court together or Horford, Simmons, Embiid?

But I concede your point that the team would probably need a new "strong" coach to manage these 3 players.


6.) 13 Aug 2020 19:38:57
the only thing you should toss are salads ;>.


7.) 13 Aug 2020 20:11:19
Wall just needs to come back and play whatever role giving then go from there. start pg on any team but needs to shoot the ball atheist 30% and can play solid D his size and speed will keep him on the court. if healthy.


8.) 13 Aug 2020 22:44:44
No for the wizards. I say this for almost every wall trade. It’s not because the value is totally bad but instead bc the wizards have faith that wall will get back to pre injury form. Whether or not he actually does is a totally different question but I know for a fact that their gm would much rather keep wall, especially if he’s getting a mediocre player on just as bad of a contract in horford.


9.) 14 Aug 2020 00:33:03
I was looking at the $10 mil per year Washington saves over the next 3 years. Draft Wall's replacement at #8 and have Horford/ Bryant platoon the 5 spot.


10.) 15 Aug 2020 04:19:24
Agree with Fredman. Trade Wall, draft his replacement and save a ton of money.


 

 

07 Aug 2020 17:56:49
Best for Minnesota?

Trade #15 and James Johnson (opt in) to Orlando for Aaron Gordon

or

draft Precious Achiuwa with #15?

Fredman

1.) 07 Aug 2020 18:42:34
Gordon fits there timeline.


2.) 07 Aug 2020 18:51:25
I like the idea. I think orlando would need a little more though. Something like a future first or equivalent value. I also think throwing in Ross or Aminu might be interesting.


3.) 07 Aug 2020 20:24:25
I think Orlando is trying to move Gordon, which means they are going to get less than "market value".


4.) 07 Aug 2020 20:47:09
I am not a fan of Gordon’s fit in MIN. It’s true he’s an athletic PF on defense, but he only edged above 30% 3P in the last month of the season. The Wolves saw firsthand how a lack of three point shooting stifles their system, and it is especially true at PF, since it allows opposing coaches to keep a true big on the floor. He can’t guard Towns, but if Gordon can’t make three pointers, he can defend Gordon - or more specifically - defend the rim and wait for him and others,

That said, I think the Nets pick is a fair offer for him, and he is certainly more valuable to MIN than in ORL, so a good trade candidate. If MIN had to throw in Amari Spellman, I imagine they’d still agree. If they refused, I doubt ORL would kill the trade though.


5.) 07 Aug 2020 21:17:56
I’m surprised the value Gordon has around here. Anything more than pick 15 seems like a overpay. He’s a nice player, but he is maybe the 4th best player on a championship team. I don’t think he could be top 3 (unless he’s on the Lakers I guess) .


6.) 08 Aug 2020 00:52:28
I think this is a good trade and if Orlando wants more, a 2nd is the best Minny could throw.


7.) 08 Aug 2020 13:05:40
BMiller, he’s a solid 3rd or 4th scorer, he’s a good passer, and he’s a good versatile defender that can protect the rim. How much better would say the Lakers be, if you replace Kuzma with him? What would he look like in a good line up playing small ball 5? He had a bad year, but he’s on a team with bad spacing, too many bigs and no guards that pass particularly well. Even with a team that fits his game horribly, he was solid. You’d be extremely lucky to get someone close to him with the 15.


8.) 08 Aug 2020 14:16:11
And that second would be the 2022 best of Philly/ Denver pick.


9.) 08 Aug 2020 15:17:30
His “bad year” didn’t seem much different than the rest of his years.

He’s a poor defender, putting him at small ball 5 would be suicide.

I’m not sure the Lakers would be more than maybe 1 or 2 wins better than they are now. He just doesn’t move the needle much.

He’s a solid role player, sure. I’m just not sure he does the little things (defend, screen, rebound) that you want a guy like that to do.

He reminds me of peak Jeff Green (or maybe Tobias Harris as a ceiling) . Can put up great stats and makes plays that make him look like a star. But there’s just something missing. He’d be best as a second unit leader.


10.) 09 Aug 2020 04:41:32
Agree with BMiller. Perfect assessment. Gordon hasn't developed, just like Green didn't develop. You know if a player has "it" after four or five years and Gordon doesn't have"it".


 

 

 

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29 Aug 2020 17:31:00
For my last post, your welcome and good luck.

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27 Aug 2020 19:37:03
@Bmiller. Easier to say than to prove. Except to look at CJ's perforances without Lillard. Whole lotta Ls there.

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27 Aug 2020 17:17:00
Dallas has the nearly $8 mil in cap space for the salary difference in the first trade? Not if the salary cap drops next year.

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27 Aug 2020 17:11:09
Yea, not seeing Kings getting Vucevic with that package.

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27 Aug 2020 16:49:21
Also since we are consideing extraneous factors, how about adding Hield is 2 years younger and costs almost $5 mil less next year? Same production for longer and cheaper. Factors you seemed to omit.

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