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16 Oct 2019 13:50:45
The Warriors get Drummond, Kennard and a 2020 lottery protected first

The Pistons get Russell and looney.

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1.) 16 Oct 2019 16:19:58
Doubt Warriors want to trade Looney. They seem to want their bigs to be able to (somewhat) guard on the perimeter so that they can switch on screens. That is one of the reason why their "death squad" so dangerous. Drummond doesn't seem to fit that description.


 

 

09 Oct 2019 15:58:08
The Warriors get Ball, Favors, Hart, and the Pelicans' 20 1st lottery protected

The Pelicans get Russell.

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1.) 09 Oct 2019 18:06:02
Why would Pelicans do that?


2.) 09 Oct 2019 18:22:40
Go out and get a 23 year old allstar pg that can shoot?


3.) 09 Oct 2019 22:24:00
All star replacement from the weak east, who can’t get to the basket or defend?

I think Russell has a lot to prove before anyone would pay that much. I think the Warriors really gambled on him, rather than lose Durant for nothing.


4.) 10 Oct 2019 01:01:34
He’s a subpar defender, but he isn’t awful and given his size and solid athleticism, you would think he’ll continue to get better. The not getting tot he rim is concerning, but he’s a legitimate shooter off the dribble, he can play on and off the ball, he’s a good passer, he’s shown the ability to hit difficult shots, he’s gotten better over time, he’s still only 23 and he’s shown the ability to be the guy on offense on a decent team. I get if you just don’t like him as a player, but that didn’t seem to me like a ridiculous package for him. Ball is a decent player with upside, but he’s a weird fit on that team. Favors seems like a stop gap for Hayes. Hart might be a 3 and d player at some point and if things don’t go well the first doesn’t convey.


5.) 10 Oct 2019 14:48:29
Not sure Russell is THAT much better than Ball. A first and 2 other players?


6.) 10 Oct 2019 16:26:29
Ball was the 4th best player in a bad team last year. Russell was the best player on a good team. Not to mention Ball hasn’t been able to stay healthy. Not to mention that he’s a guard that can’t shoot in a league where shooting is the most important skill on a team that doesn’t have a plus shooter in their starting line up.


7.) 11 Oct 2019 00:30:53
It is a stretch to say Russell was on a good team, at 42-40, playing the bulk of their games against the horrible East.

Also, keep in mind that even the Nets didn’t want to feature him initially. They were forced to after that horrible injury to LeVert, then Dinwiddie went down.

Finally, he did not get better every year. The season before he actually did a little worse. I am suspicious of a player who only succeeded when an entire team was built to help him succeed. He won’t be seeing any other team do that for the rest of his career.


 

 

03 Oct 2019 13:02:50
Theoretically, if things aren't working well for both teams

GS- Richardson, Scott, O'quinn, Z. Smith, and 2 2nds

Philly gets Russell.

The 76ers get a guy that can shoot off the dribble that fits their timeline.

GS gets a good starter, solid big, an interesting prospect, some draft assets, a small trade exception to make another move, and the pieces they get fill clear needs.

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1.) 04 Oct 2019 10:18:40
Incredible overpay.


 

 

26 Sep 2019 15:55:07
The Blazers get Covington

The Wolves get Hood and Little.

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1.) 26 Sep 2019 17:44:11
+Portland's 2020 first?


2.) 27 Sep 2019 06:47:02
Even with the POR 1st in the 20’s, this seems light, Little was the #25 pick.

Most of the contenders in the West need a SF, and they would love a 1st team, All ” NBA defender who doesn’t need the ball to help offensively. I feel if POR made this offer, several teams would trump it.


3.) 27 Sep 2019 15:24:29
I just don't see a huge gap between Hood (and Bazemore) to Covington. Definitely not effectively two firsts.

Also, does adding Covington move Portland in the order of the west at all? I don't see him putting them over the top. If he doesn't, then he's not worth that much. Portland has to retain as many assets as possible to go after a star.


4.) 27 Sep 2019 16:13:57
I think you’re overrating Hood and Bazemore. They’re decent, but neither is more than a low end starter. Covington is a top 3 perimeter defender, a good shooter, and does all the little things. He’d be a great fit. The Blazers need some defenders. Bazemore might be the only plus perimeter defender they have and he doesn’t have the body to deal with Lebron, Kawhi and etc.


5.) 27 Sep 2019 17:23:40
Top 3 perimeter defender? He was voted the 7th best defensive forward in the NBA last year. Good, but not Kawhi, Giannis, or Draymond level "my defense changes the entire game" level good.

He's also a good shooter. But again, it's not like he's Klay out there. He's a 37% 3 point shooter. He's slightly above average.

Covington is an average starter. Heck, maybe a below average starter. NBA. com had a list of the best SFs, and he didn't crack the top 15. Sure, an upgrade over Hood and Bazemore. ESPN ranked him juuuuuust slightly better than Evan Fourier. Worse than Otto Porter, Gallinari, Joe Harris, and PJ Tucker.

Does moving from a bottom 10 starting SF to a bottom 15 change the dynamic of the team whatsoever? Does it warrant trading two firsts for him?

If you have the stars to win it all, he might be worth it as a final piece. But for a team that still needs one more star level player, he's not.


6.) 27 Sep 2019 19:40:28
I wouldn’t move two 1sts for him, but Hood and a 1st sure. He’s better than given credit for and I think there’s something to him fitting almost perfectly next to Dame and CJ. You’d also have enough to make a bigger move. I also think taking a flier on a guy like Roberson would be an interesting move. They really need a big wing defender. On paper that defense looks terrible.


7.) 27 Sep 2019 23:20:09
Granted, he was hurt last year, but Covington was named first team All Defense for 2017-18.

Over the last three years, only Rudy Gobert has a higher DRPM.

You are greatly under-estimating Covington.


8.) 28 Sep 2019 03:37:52
Then where do you place him overall amount SFs Shrink? Experts rank him outside the top half of starters. He’s a good defender, but you don’t build a game plan around his defense like you do Gobert or Leonard.

He’s a really nice role player, definitely. But two firsts means star to me. Anything less is a mistake.


 

 

25 Sep 2019 19:11:05
The Thunder get Wiggins, Teague, Dieng, Bates Diop, and a lottery protected 2020 1sts that converts to two 2nds after two years.

The Wolves get Paul, Gallinari, and Roberson.

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1.) 25 Sep 2019 22:04:32
After the Jimmy Butler locker room, I think Chris Paul is the last player in the NBA that MIN would subject KAT to.

Word here from a local sportswriter is that Rosas feels he has to make up for what Towns had to face with Jimmy, and they won’t bring in “another alpha, ” as they make this KAT’s team. It’s probably true too, because even though Rosas is a star-hunter like Morey, he made no effort whatsoever to try to get Paul or Westbrook.


2.) 26 Sep 2019 02:36:05
Agree with Shrink. Paul's inability to work with star players is starting to be "habitual". Why put KAT through that again?


 

 

 

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16 Oct 2019 12:03:55
Not even bringing age into the equation, I’d rather have Looney and Russell than Covington and Gallo.

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16 Oct 2019 01:21:20
Orlando is getting robbed.

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14 Oct 2019 23:00:14
Were mine bad enough to only be down voted? Assuming the next two Cavs picks were pretty high lottery and Garland is high end prospect that seems pretty ridiculous to me? Was I just over valuing the Cavs young guys?

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14 Oct 2019 12:47:24
I’ll just use the Cavs roster and pretend like they can trade their 1st this year to make it easy. I wouldn’t trade a big package from the Cavs for anyone right now given where they are at.

Booker for Sexton, KPJ, TT and the 2020 1st top 3 protected

Gobert for Love and the 2020 top 5 protected

Russell for Sexton, Osman, Nance, and the Buck 2021 1st

KAT for Garland, KPJ, TT, the 2020 1st, the Bucks 21 1st the 22 1st top 5 protected

Tatum (plus some filler) for Nance, Garland, Osman and the 2021 1st top 5 protected.

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14 Oct 2019 10:51:13
The Cavs would need a 1st to take on Dieng.

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