06 Nov 2017 11:21:26
Cavs Lakers

Lebron for Clarkson, Deng, Ingram, Randle and 1st Rd DP.

Lakers have:
Ball, Ennis
KCP, Blue
Lebron, Nance, Brewer
Kuzma,
Lopez, Bogut

Not to mention the cap space to sign 2 max contracts with Lebron already on the roster: Boogie and PG13?????

Cavs can go into rebuild mode immediately. Waive Deng and find new homes for anyone else who's name isn't Love, Korver, Thompson or Thomas That Lakers pick would be 14-19, BK would be 1-5. I like that if I'm the Cavs.

1.) 06 Nov 2017
06 Nov 2017 12:30:10
You do realise it’s november and not April 1st?

2.) 06 Nov 2017
06 Nov 2017 12:47:36
Only Ingram and the 1st would be of any interest in this deal for the Cavs, and even at the deadline and the Cavs writing the season off, this is not enough to get it done.

3.) 06 Nov 2017
06 Nov 2017 12:53:08
Only if the cavs are sure LBJ would sign with LA after this year. And still LA should give more for dumping Deng's contract.

4.) 06 Nov 2017
06 Nov 2017 13:00:11
Multiple problems with this.
1.the numbers don't work. The Cavs are taking on to much salary. Even if they could take on that salary (they can't), they aren't going to put themselves deeper in the luxury with a Lebron trade.

2. Lebron would veto the trade. He has a clear path to the finals right now in Cleveland. Why would he go to a Lakers team where he would have no help this year?

3. For as apathetic as the Cavs have looked and it's been pathetic at times, they've beat the 3 best teams in the East and 2 of those are on the road. They're going to be fine, if they want to be.

4. Why would the Lakers do this? They'll need atleast Ball and Ingram to go with a big 3 just to have an outside shot at a team like the Warriors. If they lose either of those two, the team has no upside to convince players to come.

5.) 06 Nov 2017
06 Nov 2017 17:32:08
1. According to trade machine, the numbers work. 5 million difference. If need be, it could be fine tuned.

2. Clear path to the finals, true, but the Warriors are going to win it. Hands down.

3. They’ll be fine. Again, you are right. But isn’t that just settling when you have an opportunity to set your franchise up for the future? Going to the finals is an incredible feat but we all know the outcome. For Lebron’s reason to go is to have a year playing the same system GS runs, grow familiar to Ball and Kuzma’s playing styles, and the next year, bring in some more talent. PG13 and Boogie. Give those legs some rest Lebron. If the Lakers do make the playoffs, not getting out of the first round with Lebron. Take early exit to get some rest mentally and physically and go hard after it 18-19.

4. Kuzma and Nance has more upside than Ingram. Not saying Ingram can’t be a stud, that would be the prize to pay to get a player like Lebron. But Kuzma and Nance has more upside playing alongside Bron and Ball. Sign Lopez at a reasonable price over the offseason, get two max contract players in, 2 shooters and that team has the best chance to beat GS. Name a team better.

Also Cleveland can grow past the Lebron era. If Lebron is there, you think IT re-signing? If Lebron wasn’t there, u think Dwade would be there? I say that to say, you get away from the players past there prime riding the coattails to the finals and add youth and talent to your franchise. And winning with that formula only brings more talent and youth. Reference GS. Moved past Ellis and Jackson and went for youth. Youth grew, won a ship and added KD. Put thought into it.

6.) 06 Nov 2017
06 Nov 2017 18:49:58
1. Yeah, I was thinking Lebron was a little closer to thirty million and Deng and Clarkson made a little more, but that's still putting 20ish million more on the books at minimum. Gilbert might be willing to go into the red for a winner, but he's not gooing to do it in a rebuild and he's not going to pay luxury next year without Lebron and with contracts that would still be on the books, he would have to.

2. That's assuming the Warriors come in healthy or/ and the Cavs make no moves. The chances that the Cavs get back to the finals anytime soon post lebron aren't great. They had never done it before. Even if a rebuild goes well, the Cavs will have a hard time being this good again.

3. Lebron is 33. He knows his window is closing. He doesn't have the luxury of saying, I can rest up and come back next year. Plus, there is no guarantee that anyone else comes. How many times have we seen Lakers free agent speculation not amount to anything. The Knicks and Lakers are the biggest market teams and the media knows speculation on either team equals clicks.

4. You're delusional if you think Nance or Kuzma have more potential than Ingram and even if they can sign 3 max guys, the money from those deals will eat up 90 percent of the soft cap. The Lakers will need every rookie contract they have to fill out the roster with NBA level players.

Just because everything went right for GS doesn't really mean much. That team wasn't a finals team at the time and that's why they made moves to get younger. This is a completely different scenario and the Warriors ended up with the perfect storm. there is as much luck involved in drafting a winner as planned team building.

7.) 07 Nov 2017
07 Nov 2017 01:16:04
you understand that with Brook Lopez contract off the books in the off season, plus the cap increase that is coming in the off season, the lakers can just go ahead and sign lebron. They don't need to trade for him now or ever actually.