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20 Oct 2018 18:47:52
The Lakers get Simmons, Augustin, Vucevic(exp), and Orlando's 2019 1st top 7, 5 and then unprotected.

The Magic get Ball, Caldwell-Pope(expiring), and Wagner

The Lakers get 3 players that can help them now and keep a high end asset Incase a star comes available. They also keep most of their capspace.

The Magic desperately need someone to be able to distribute the ball for their young bigs to develop. Despite his limitations, Ball is a great passer. They get Wagner, who is a solid shooting big prospect and they shed some cap. Chances are that pick doesn't until next year.

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1.) 20 Oct 2018 20:07:16
Magic don't need a young big guy. Pope could help shooting but I doubt it happens.


2.) 20 Oct 2018 22:07:02
Caldwell-Pope can’t be traded till December since he was signed this off-season. I don’t think the Magic take this deal just because of how valuable their draft pick is. Not sure the lakers do it either because the players aren’t good fits, the wing is already too crowded for Simmons and Nelson isn’t good enough.


3.) 20 Oct 2018 23:29:02
Magic declined that deal.


 

 

18 Oct 2018 15:50:56
Philly gets Dieng and Butler

Minnesota gets Chandler(expiring), Bayless (expiring), Mascla(expiring), Korkmaz, Bolden, Philly's 19 1st and 2 2nds

Minnesota shaves 6 Million off their books from the beginning. They get Chandler and Muscala, who can both play now, but they have no long term commitment to. They can buyout Bayless saving them more money. Plus. Plus, they get 1st and some smaller young assets. They don't get the middle of the road starting player that they want, but the rest of the package is vastly superior to what else has been floated for Butler.

Philly gets a 3rd star without giving up any of their high end assets. Plus, Dieng can be a solid role player for them.

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1.) 18 Oct 2018 16:27:17
If butler goes to the Sixers, Saric or Covington are likely included, otherwise I don't think the wolves would do a deal for garbage. Even the pick is late.


2.) 18 Oct 2018 16:32:12
76ers can't trade their own No. 1 this season, because it conveys to Boston if the Sacramento pick turns out to be No. 1 overall. As for the rest, Thibs would want no part of any of it.


3.) 18 Oct 2018 16:46:43
Where are all these better deals out there. The Heat seemed to have pulled out and their reported offer wasn’t any better than the one above. It was headlined by Richardson and a late first, they weren’t taking Dieng and apparently they would have had to take Waiters. Houston wouldn’t even put PJ Tucker into talks. Who would Philly be competing with. A first, 2nd and expirings atleast are something.


4.) 18 Oct 2018 17:42:42
I think the heat offered and are still offering a better package than this. I don't know what the rockets package is. I think the Heats' would be a little better though.


5.) 18 Oct 2018 17:50:50
Collider in the freak occurrence that sac is the #1 overall you are correct. However if that pick is higher than 1, it goes to Boston and Philly has their own pick to trade or draft with in 2019. Correct me if I'm wrong, I've had a hard time with this one in the past!


6.) 18 Oct 2018 18:23:01
The reported Heat offer was better than this one.

There may not be a lot of big offers on the table, but it only takes one team with motivation to put a good package together. Based on the way Philly looked against Boston on Tuesday, 10-15 games from now, if they look like they’re falling behind the C’s and Raps, there may be a crunch to offer up something that makes Minny jump.


7.) 18 Oct 2018 18:26:04
Btec, I think that it's actually that Boston gets to take the better of the two picks. If I'm not mistaken.


8.) 18 Oct 2018 19:08:56
BTEC -- Philly gets the Kings pick if it turns out to be No. 1 overall. In that case, Boston gets the Sixers' own No. 1, which figures to be in the 20s. Obviously, no one knows which it will be until the draft lottery is held in mid-May. So Philly cannot trade its own pick until it knows that it won't convey to Boston. Thus, any trade involving Philly's own No. 1 in the coming draft is an exercise in futility, since Boston might get it. I think I read somewhere that based on last year's standings the Kings pick has something like a 12 percent chance of being No. 1 overall.


9.) 18 Oct 2018 19:41:55
I thought If Kings get number one they keep there pick and next year is unprotected.


10.) 18 Oct 2018 20:00:14
Couldn’t you just give the opposite set of protections for the picking going out in another deal? Or just drop the protection? It seems like there would be easy ways to work around given that they have 3 picks in 2 years.


11.) 18 Oct 2018 20:46:21
II, I thought that too. No matter what Sac gets no pick in 2019 unless they trade for one. A 1st anyway.

Collider, thanks for clearing that up. Your right, can't trade that 1st until the end of the season draft lottery.


 

 

12 Oct 2018 13:26:55
The Warriors get Butler.

The Timberwolves get Igoudola, looney (or young player of choice not named bell), and 2 1sts

The Warriors rap up the championship and give themselves Durant insurance.

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1.) 12 Oct 2018 15:39:29
No! Wolves declined that deal I rather Trade him to Rockets or Thunder to Challenge the Warriors.


2.) 12 Oct 2018 19:04:59
I don’t want Butler to go to the Warriors and it doesn’t sound like he will, but that would be a pretty competitive package. Also, it would be the best collection of talent ever assembled.


3.) 12 Oct 2018 23:48:21
The warriors would not be beaten unless there were multiple injuries with butler.


 

 

11 Oct 2018 14:57:25
The Suns get Rozier

The Celtics get the Suns 1st (top 10 protected dropping to 5, 3 and then unprotected)

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1.) 11 Oct 2018 15:54:46
Celtics have spent a ton of time developing Rozier, and they could have four picks in the first round next June anyway. So that deal is not happening. Rozier will stick in Boston until at least July 1, when they'll have a good idea if Irving's knee is sound and if he's ready to re-sign. After this season they'll also know what's going on with Anthony Davis, and Rozier could be part of a deal there.


2.) 11 Oct 2018 16:12:06
How would rozier be a part of a deal as a free agent? Irving is in the fold long term and they won’t be able to keep Rozier. The money just isn’t there to give him a deal. All of those picks won’t convey next year and if they do you can turn them into more future assets at the worst or use them to get Davis. Keeping a steady stream of picks wouldn’t be a bad option given all of the talent they already have and how young they are. They could be set up for the next 15 years, if they play it right (which Ainge probably will) .


3.) 11 Oct 2018 16:56:29
Irving is not in the fold long term.
Rozier cannot be a free agent next July -- he can be a restricted free agent (if he doesn't sign a deal before Monday) .
I didn't say all of the picks will convey. I said they could convey.
If they knew they could get Davis for a boatload of first-rounders, they might consider moving Rozier. But not until then.


4.) 11 Oct 2018 17:00:06
Irving can say whatever he wants, but I wouldn't take him at his word. Teams have been burned too many times with that (Boozer, Aldridge to name two recent ones) . I wouldn't trade Rozier until Irving is signed (which obviously can't happen, because Rozier would be a free agent at that time) .

Matching whatever he gets and then flipping him the following year might be the best course of action for Boston. Or just let him walk this offseason if he gets a massive deal.


5.) 11 Oct 2018 18:04:00
I qs taken aback a bit by the articles written that the Celtics are trying to extend Rozier. I always thought he'd be traded, but I think they will get a deal done, which will be beneficial in the long run. IE. He would bring back a better package than he would of he were a pending free agent.
I think Irving will be true to his word, because all along this off season neither Ainge or the Celtics ever publicly panicked whenever those Irving rumors came out. I just think, they knew something that no one else knew. that they were confident that Irving would re-sign.


 

 

11 Oct 2018 14:51:47
Minnesota gets Smith, Korver, Chandler, and Philly's 2019 1st

The Cavs get Bayless(exp) and 2 Philly 2nds

The 76ers get Butler

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21 Oct 2018 14:39:49
I think Ball is being underrated on here. He has warts, but the guy is 20, talented, and he was solid last year. It’s not ridiculous to think he could become a bigger version of Rondo or a more athletic Rubio and his jumper is ugly but he makes it more than either of those two did at his age. The guys floor is probably a low end starting pg and his ceiling is a big 2 way allstar pg.

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21 Oct 2018 13:14:49
The Cavs get marginally better at best. There is much better ways to use your cap space than helping the Knicks clear cap for free.

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20 Oct 2018 13:58:34
Augustin is worth a 2nd at best. He’s a middle of the pack, 30 year old back up pg. Teams aren’t giving up 1sts for low end starters in today’s market.

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19 Oct 2018 17:26:02
While I think Ball and KCP is extremely light for Lilliard, he doesn’t have anywhere near the value AD does. He’s 3 years older, AD is a top 3 to 5 player compared to Lilliard being in the top 15 or 20 range, and he isn’t a good defender. I think best case scenario you get a deal similar to the Jimmy Butler one last year.

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19 Oct 2018 01:20:50
Philly has made it pretty clear that Fultz isn’t on the table and the Thunder get robbed.

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