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02 Jan 2019 21:35:51
Denver gets Love

Philly gets Barton

The Cavs get Plumlee, Porter Jr, Fultz, Korkmaz and Denver's 19 1st

rkenne_16

1.) 02 Jan 2019 23:01:30
Dever doesn't have a 2019 first rounder. Traded this summer to Brooklyn.


2.) 03 Jan 2019 00:52:33
Love for Fultz Chandler. That is all love is worth.


3.) 03 Jan 2019 04:02:09
I have hope for mpj.


 

 

29 Dec 2018 15:01:06
The Knicks get Alec Burks and Jr Smith(buyout)

The Cavs get Parsons, the Knicks 2020 top 5 Protected, the Memphis 2021 top 10 protected, a Knicks 2nd and a Memphis 2nd

The Grizzlies get Hardaway and Lee

rkenne_16

1.) 29 Dec 2018 16:04:39
Too many questions about this trade.

1. Burks has a trade restriction and can't be traded like this until Jan 28.

2. Buying out Smith still puts his $15 mil 2020 salary on the books. Are the Knicks stretching that salary like they did with Noah?

3. Not sure Memphis is willing to take on an additional $5 mil in salary when they are already over the luxury tax let alone giving up a future 1st rounder (when they don't have a 1st rounder this year) . Hard pill to swallow for a small market team that may not even make the Playoffs in the Western Conference.


2.) 29 Dec 2018 16:44:42
I don’t think the Knicks really care as long as they can shed the salary before the offseason.

Smith’s contract is only guaranteed for 4 million next year.

Memphis could throw some more salary to the Cavs. They clearly want to maximize their time with Gasol and Conley though. The only way they can really improve the roster is getting out of Parsons contract.


3.) 29 Dec 2018 17:05:22
I agree Memphis only way getting better is trading parsons contract and a first. Plus this helps them but maybe cavs take hardaway and Memphis get osman and Thompson.


4.) 29 Dec 2018 18:48:52
Well, if that is what Memphis wants to do, then the Kings would throw expiring contracts (Zbo + McLemore + free cap space) for Memphis 2021 1st rounder + future 2nd rounder and Parsons right now. That will give Memphis $35 mil in cap space if Gasol opts in, but only 6 players under contract for 2020.


5.) 29 Dec 2018 18:49:09
The Cavs have no reason to trade Cedi unless they get some kind of ridiculous offer. I don't think they should give him up for anything short of a lottery pick and I don't see anyone offering something like that for him.


6.) 29 Dec 2018 19:03:30
With how good the Kings have been this year, why would they want to take on bad salary? They'll probably be trying to add talent in free agency this offseason.


7.) 29 Dec 2018 19:11:14
The Griz are formidable as is. I have them in front of LAC and SAC and DAL. Waive parsons in the off season as opposed to trading for 2 problems instead of 1. Lee may be behind in conditioning but his recent injury shouldn't be taken lightly until he's back to form again. I haven't seen that in back to back games for him yet. Or at all? Hardaway is not efficient. Fizdale is drooling to not have to use Hardaway. Trier is already knocking on that door. I have Hardaway, Dieng in similar trade w/ asset attached scenarios.


8.) 29 Dec 2018 19:20:54
Do you see cedi numbers, I'm from Cleveland and you're a cavs fan your over valuing him.


9.) 29 Dec 2018 20:33:15
He’s one of 2 young players on the roster with some upside. Why would you trade him for a late 1st? I don’t think he’s worth a lottery pick, but the only way the Cavs should trade him is if someone is going to overpay for him. There’s a good chance that you’re going to get a worse player with a mid to late 1st. Really the only thing that is all that worrisome for Cedi is his shooting splits and he’s being forced to take a lot of contested shots because no one else can score or create. He’s shown flashes of being a good defender, he’s shown flashes of being able to create, he’s shown the ability to get to the hole, he’s shown the ability to be a decent catch and shoot guy (he’s missing a lot of contested 3s off the dribble), he’s a solid rebounder and he can finish. The biggest thing is you can see clear improvement in his game.


10.) 29 Dec 2018 20:42:27
Rkenne_16, I get you are looking at the short term. But if you look at the long term, one can see that when Parson's contract expires the Kings will need to sign Hield and Bogdonavich to extensions (totalling $25 mil? ) . So by taking Parson and a 1st rounder, the Kings have rented out the cap space that they are designating for Hield and BB8. This is how the Kings have to use cap space because no FA is going to sign there unless the Kings become a very good team through trades and draft picks.


11.) 29 Dec 2018 21:24:41
Sorry Fredman you are off a bit. Parsons expires next season same as Hield and Bogdanovich. The difference is; Hield and Bogdanovich are restricted and wanted probably, Parsons is not wanted, restricted or not. Any extension for Hield and Bogdanovich could likely be delayed or figured with Parsons added to the roster because Shumpert Randolph, Mclemore, koufos are all history. You just don't like parsons dead money. That is the only logical argument: It's a waste of a roster slot @ 25mil what is that worth? With what happened to Deng, Noah, and Anthony I think we know what is likely to happen with Parsons.


12.) 29 Dec 2018 22:40:53
Btec. Parson's contract expires at the end of the 19/ 20 season and Hield and Bogdanovic both become RFAs at the start of the 20/ 21 season. So parson's cap space becomes available at the start of the 20/ 21 season. It actually works like a glove for their extensions or if the Kings match any offers during the players RFAs.

The only real question is if Parson's 15% trade kicker is activated on this being his second trade on this deal.


13.) 30 Dec 2018 00:09:19
You're wrong about Hield and Bogdanovich. In 20-21 they would be UFA's. The summer after next along with Parsons their guaranteed money runs out. However that figures into your world. Parsons, Bogdanovich, Hield all expire next season go look it up on basketball reference and comprehend UFA, and RFA designations. I believe that is where you are confusing me, and yourself.


14.) 30 Dec 2018 01:37:52
Btec, look at Porzingis. His RFA starts at the beginning of next (19-20) offseason, right? Porzingis was in the 2015 draft.

Hield was in the 2016 draft which would make his RFA start at the beginning of the 20/ 21 offseason. Bogdan is in a different situation but it is also at the beginning of the 20/ 21 season.

When does Parson's contract expire? The end of the 19/ 20 season.

Even if the Hield sign an extension this summer (earliest he can sign) it will not go into effect until the 20/ 21 season, much like Booker's extension didn't immediately come into play.


15.) 30 Dec 2018 05:32:05
Try to change the argument to whatever you like, the Kings exercised thejr '19-'20 option on hield so an extension starting next season would only marginally increase his salary like in the case of love in CLE this season. So again taking on parsons salary wouldn't interfere with Hields' extension. Now for Bogdanovich its the same thing he is under contract so an extension would only Marginally increase his salary next season just like with love. You are trying to turn it into a Dinwiddie situation or something or just exaggerating a lot. Parsons deal is bad way to argue against that somehow. Goo's job.


 

 

15 Dec 2018 23:45:46
The Thunder get Love, Augustine, Ross, and Hood

The Magic get Schroeder, Burks, Henson,
And a Thunder 2nd

The Cavs get Mozgov, Grant, Abrines, Patterson, Diallo, and Orlando's 19 top 10
Protected

rkenne_16

1.) 16 Dec 2018 00:04:09
Magic easily say no.


2.) 16 Dec 2018 02:23:18
Why they give up a protected 1st for a pg
that can get them to the post season. They get off Biyombo for a center that has some value and they get a replacement for Ross.


3.) 16 Dec 2018 03:18:14
Trade is bad for everyone except okc.


4.) 16 Dec 2018 03:27:30
Rkerne- they can trade ross and vuc for a pg or pick that get them a better cheaper pg.


5.) 16 Dec 2018 04:10:14
@Shiller41, Agreed! Malcolm Brogdan PG/ SG for the Milwaukee Bucks comes to mind!

Thoughts?


6.) 16 Dec 2018 04:26:20
There's a decent deal between MIL and ORL I think. Bucks have a pick and some expiring junk and quality to offer up, and the Magic have some quality expiring guys to offer. got to be something there!


7.) 16 Dec 2018 04:32:41
Ross and Vuc should net a 1st. Brogdan, Hill, '19 1st is a good deal. Sign Ross back next season if the Magic want. Vuc too. (I wouldn't but if sellers remorse lasts long term)


 

 

13 Dec 2018 17:31:11
The Cavs Knight, Houston's 19 1st, and Houston's 21 1st lottery Protected

The Rockets get KCP, Hood, Nwaba and Beasley

The Suns get Burks, Wagner, and a Lakers 2nd

The Lakers get Ariza

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13 Dec 2018 15:22:37
The Suns get Parsons, the 21 and 23 (top 5 and 10 Protected) Memphis first plus a 20 pick swap.

The Griz get Ariza and Warren.

rkenne_16

1.) 13 Dec 2018 17:09:39
Memphis should pass. Ariza and Warren don't make them better than Golden State. And with Gasol and Conley nearing the end of their careers/ contracts, Memphis will need their 1st round picks to rebuild.


2.) 13 Dec 2018 18:02:41
Well the pick swap in 20 probably won’t be anything, the 21 pick could be high, but probably not and the last one won’t convey if Memphis is awful.


 

 

 

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15 Jan 2019 18:51:15
the Knicks giving picks to Atlanta.

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14 Jan 2019 19:04:47
Sure, but there’s a good chance that a few teams in the luxury could be floundering in the playoff race and desperate to get off money. The King’s are the only game in town right now. If that happens, the Kings could get a well above average haul for what they’re giving up. Not to mention that the Kings have a few interesting players that they could ship out, if they fall a little bit in the standings.

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14 Jan 2019 15:10:59
Shizzee, Gasupo has mentioned a thousand times on this site that he’s a Pacers fan. What’s your weird obsession with the Cavs?

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14 Jan 2019 15:08:13
Yeah, the Kings are in a position where they can charge a ton for even an expiring contract, if an owner desperately wants out from under some luxury taxes.

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12 Jan 2019 22:23:53
I feel like Vucevic is a bad fit for the Celtics. They have to many guys that need touches already and without Vucevic being consistently fed the ball, he isn’t a very valuable player given his lack of defensive ability.

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