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27 Feb 2017 03:00:28
Boston off season:

A Johnson will be off the books.
J Jerebko will be off the books.
J Young off the books.
K Olynyk off the books.
T Zeller non guaranteed..
Salary projected to be 72 +/-..

If Golden State wins this year Is it possible Durant (opt out after this yr.) could come to Boston?
They have enough to sign him to a max deal or a possible S/T which will give them an extra yr..
Plumlee
But then you have IT4 that will get 180 million max deal after next year, as well as A Bradley...

If KD isn't in the future then Butler will be, or not..

Trade for M Plumlee..
Re-sign Jerebko.

27 Feb 2017 03:32:26
You think Durant would leave GS after one year if they win a ring? That doesn't make sense to me.

Plumlee is an RFA this offseason. and he'll be fairly expensive (4 years 75-100 million) .

27 Feb 2017 03:44:21
Also don't think it's an absolute lock that Ainge gives IT a max deal. He'll be 29 when it begins, will be making $40mm when he's 33. His size or lack thereof will become more of an issue as he ages. They are already paying Horford lots of dough on backside of his career. Think they hope to draft Fultz and see what he's made of before making that decision.

27 Feb 2017 04:26:57
Nobody knows what will happen. All I'm saying is he liked Boston and it's not impossible that he couldn't do that. He'd be the MAN in Boston
If a Durant would come to Boston IT14 would take take less to be a part of something that many players think of but can't be. A Championship, with the best team in NBA with the richest History of them all . Anything is a possibility.

27 Feb 2017 04:58:01
I think when IT4's contract expires he should only sign a 2yr max deal with Boston.

27 Feb 2017 01:25:00
Moving Noah at the cost Melo

Kings get Melo Noah Vujacic Ndour
Heat get Koufos Temple
Knicks get Gay Ellington McRoberts Toliver

Melo and Noah lead Kings in rebuilding without giving up any pieces. Melo best chance to his California dream.

Fox-8th/Galloway/Collison
Afflalo/Hields/Hart-36
Issac-6th/Richardson/Ndour
Melo/Labissiere/A.Peters-41
Stein/Noah/Papagianis

Heat need a back behind Whiteside
Dragic/Johnson/McCruder
Waiters/Richardson/Temple
Winslow/Johnson/Babbitt
Bosh/Reed/Giles-18th
Whiteside/Koufos/White

Gay is worthy replacement at cost of moving Noah for expiring contract. Knicks Sign Patrick Mills Anderson Roberson and Jonathan Simmons 4yr 60mil

Mills/Ntilikina-9th/K.Simmons-47th
Simmons/Lee/Briscoe-57
Roberson/Gay/Kuzminskas
Porzingis/Thomas/McRoberts
Hernangomez/O'Quinn/Plumlee

27 Feb 2017 02:00:27
SAC is not his CA dream. And Melo and Noah would only make the rebuild worse.

27 Feb 2017 03:31:03
Replacing Koufos Gay Temple Toliver is nono bc they are contributing to rebuilding. Noah and Melo are good leaders. He has been handling himself professionally. Melo could be traded again, hopefully divac learns get value than Cousins trade. He value greater than any one the Kings roster currently. Noah leadership for team with direction is worth 17 mil per yr.

27 Feb 2017 05:00:24
It's s mute trade. Melo would not accept a trade to sac.

26 Feb 2017 18:20:37
Knicks offseason:

This works only if Blake Griffin leaves LA for another place:

To LAC - Melo

To NYK - Rivers, W. Johnson, B. Johnson

Should Griffin leaves, the Clippers would have approximately $12M to spend, which would not get them another star player. The difference between these two packages dollar wise, including Melo, trade kicker would be about $10M. If Melo were to waive his no trade clause, it would happen in the summer, and it would be to LA. Paul resigns with Melo there.

Draft:

Frank Ntilikina
Isaiah Hicks
Stash and dash

Sign

George Hill
P. J. Tucker

Knicks won't compete for top level FA's, so two quality vets who contribute defense and shooting without breaking the bank would be a win for NY.

Roster

PG - Hill, Ntilikina, Rivers
SG - Lee, Rivers
SF - Tucker, Thomas, Johnson
PF - Zinger, Kuzminskus, Isaiah
C- Hernangomez, O'Quinn, Noah.

26 Feb 2017 18:26:40
Clippers have to part with at least a 1st rd pick.

26 Feb 2017 19:25:41
Bruce Johnson is the 1st, as the Clips don't have one to trade for a few years.

26 Feb 2017 21:10:31
The issue also is they won't have Noah making 17 mill as the 3rd strong center. Perhaps should. But they won't.

27 Feb 2017 01:33:08
Trade Melo to move noah.

26 Feb 2017 03:08:00
Knicks next either figure the big 4 Lebron Wade Melo CP3 or retool

Noah Ntilikina to Brooklyn for cap space and 2nd

Wade for Lee Thomas

CP3/Rozier/Briscoe-56th
Wade/Young/Bird-58th
Melo/Kuzminskas/Ndour
Lebron/Hicks/Hayes-57th
Porzingis/Hernangomez/Plumlee

Or

Melo Noah for Parker Green Gasol

Sign George Hill or Otto Porter 4yr 92mil 15 mil in 17

Hill/Parker/Ntilikina-9th
Lee/Green/Bird-58th
Porter/Thomas/Kuzminskas
Porzingis/Hicks-47th/N.Hayes-57th
O'Quinn/Hernangomez/Plumlee

26 Feb 2017 14:09:36
The first option of the two isn't bad, but three years of Noah's contract is too for the Nets to agree to. If he only had one more year left, then maybe, but the length is the issue.

Second option, there is no way is heck that San Antonio agrees to that deal.

24 Feb 2017 16:57:57
Knicks Offseason


NYK- Chris Paul
LAC- Courtney Lee, 2017 6th pick.

NYK- Dwayne Wade
CHI- Wesley Matthews, Mindaugas Kuzminskas, 2019 NYK 1st (top 5 protected)
DAL- Joakim Noah, 2018 CHI 2nd



PG- Chris Paul
SG- Malik Monk
SF- Carmelo Anthony/Lance Thomas
PF- Kristaps Porzingis/Kyle O'Quinn
C- Joakim Noah/Willy Hernangomez

24 Feb 2017 17:09:27
Why woul Dallas do this?
They can take bad contracts and rebuilt, but give them atleast the NY pick (unprotected) and Kuzminskas

And why would NY give anything for D Wade? He can become a free agent and they shouldn't trade him if he asked 25 Million.

And they should only trade for CP3 without a sign and trade. They need this years pick get a talented young player.

24 Feb 2017 17:11:03
you traded Noah and your 2017 1st, they shouldn't be in the lineup.

24 Feb 2017 19:19:07
Sorry meant Wade not Monk.

24 Feb 2017 19:26:10
This is garbage.

24 Feb 2017 20:55:52
No interest from Dallas in Noah, actually, no interest in Noah by anyone who isn't that moron Phil Jackson.

If the Knicks are looking at building around Zinger, why would the Knicks give up younger assets (picks, Kuz) for two older players who are just starting to decline. Instead of one Melo, now you have three.

24 Feb 2017 16:37:40
Clippers Offseason


BOS- Blake Griffin
PHI- Avery Bradley
LAC- 1st pick (from BRK), Jae Crowder, Jalil Okafor, 2019 PHI 1st (top 5 protected).


LAC- Courtney Lee, 2018 1st (unprotected)
NYK- Chris Paul


Draft
1- PG, Lonzo Ball

PG- Lonzo Ball/Austin Rivers
SG- Courtney Lee/Jamal Crawford
SF- Jae Crowder/Wes Johnson
PF- Jalil Okafor/Luc Mbah a Moute
C- DeAndre Jordan/Maurice Speights

24 Feb 2017 19:30:08
Change that 2018 pick to 2017.

25 Feb 2017 01:01:34
Change that Brooklyn pick to 19 LAC pick and J Young.

25 Feb 2017 04:41:02
First. Ou are officially the worst poster.

Second. Sign and trade for the 1st overall pick? Seriously?

23 Feb 2017 17:49:34
Bos- Melo
Knicks- 18 Bos pk, Johnson, Zeller, Young.


Bos signs Bogut after 6er's buy him out.

23 Feb 2017 18:31:20
Boston has no need for Anthony.
Bogut, yes.

23 Feb 2017 18:42:57
This is true, but for that price Ainge would take him.

23 Feb 2017 16:08:38
Knicks Wolves
Rose and Noah
Rubio Muhammad Pekovic.

23 Feb 2017 20:50:15
At best Aldrich not Muhammed.

23 Feb 2017 15:06:00
Knicks


NYK- Ricky Rubio
MIN- Derrick Rose

The Knicks want Rubio (according to ESPN) and the Tibs want Rose back with him. The Wolves have extra cap so this trade works.

Offseason

Re-sign Brandon Jennings 2 years $24 million

Hes the offensive PG the Knicks need to pair with Rubio who is a distributor.


DRAFT
6th- SG, Malik Monk


PG- Ricky Rubio/Brandon Jennings
SG- Courtney Lee/Malik Monk
SF- Carmelo Anthony/Lance Thomas
PF- Kristaps Porzingis/Kyle O'Quinn
C- Joakim Noah/Willy Hernangomez

23 Feb 2017 13:21:12
Cavs go small ball.

Cavaliers get- Carmelo Anthony, Kyle O'Quinn.

Knicks get- Tristan Thompson, Jordan McRae, Iman Shumpert, 2021 1st, 2019 1st, trade exceptions. Also draft rights of Cedi Osman, Dom Pointer, Vladimeer Veremeenko, Edin Bavcic, Chu Maduabum, Illkan Karaman.

Irving/Liggins/Felder
Korver/Smith/Jones
Anthony/Jefferson/Williams
James/Frye
Love/O'Quinn

Rose/Jennings/Baker
Lee/Shumpert/McRae/Vujacic
Thomas/Kuzminskas/Holiday
Porzingis/Hernangomez/N'dour
Thompson/Noah/Plumlee

23 Feb 2017 13:50:22
I don't know about acquiring the draft rights to like62 players, especially as after a trade like this, the Cavs will have one first round pick between now and the time Kyrie retires, but the framework of the deal makes sense. None of the Cavs biggest competition runs out a dominant Center, so going small is fine.

23 Feb 2017 20:59:32
It's was bad enough last yr to dump Shumpert Smith for nothing. Now u want ny to do it again. Melo Noah for Shumpert Thompson fillers. Cavs can keep there 2031 picks you are prposing.

23 Feb 2017 05:32:13
knicks: greg monroe, wilson chandler and emanual mudiay

nuggets: tony snell, kyle o quinn, kuzminskas and 17 bucks 2nd rnd pick

bucks: rose, justin holiday, jamal murray and 17 knicks 1st rnd and 18 knicks 2nd rnd pick


knicks new lineup

Emanuel Mudiay-Brandon Jennings
Courtney Lee-Wilson Chandler
Carmelo Anthony-Lance Thomas
Greg Monroe-Willy Hernangomez
Kristaps Porzingis-Joakim Noah

23 Feb 2017 05:55:54
Ya let's screw over denver.

23 Feb 2017 08:59:21
Knicks won't trade their 2017 pick. Monroe is not a good pf (he can't defend pf) and with Monroe they wold probably want to trade Noah.

23 Feb 2017 13:53:29
Nuggets are not giving up Jamaal Murray for that package.

23 Feb 2017 21:00:36
Knicks can't trade 17 1st until after they the player.

23 Feb 2017 04:34:11
Wolves get Rose
Knicks get Wade Korver
Bulls get Rubio Lee
Cavs get Rondo

Draft day trade Mavs 41 mil cap space
Noah Ntilikina-7th
for
Hammons Smith Trimble-39th

O'Quinn Thomas 2018 1st for cap space

How to esemble 4 superstar team in NY
Wade opts out sign 4yr 72mil 15,17,19,21
Lebron & CP3 sign 4yr 112 mil 25,27,29,31. A 4 star team in ny market in advertising will overcome more money if they all maxed out elsewhere.
All 4 starts will make 90mil in 2017. All others salary 10 mil=102 mil cap
Knicks than sign MLE on Tony Allen and mini MCW

CP3/MCW/Trimble-35th
Wade/T.Allen/Bird-57th
Melo/Kuzminskas/Smith
Lebron/Porzingis/Hicks-44th
Plumlee/Hernangomez/Hammons

23 Feb 2017 05:36:25
Will it happen I dunno if Lebron leaves Cleveland. But he marches to different beat than anybody else. He already won a championship in Cleveland. If don't win a championship this yr. That team would have more pieces around Lebron than cavs or Warriors. Winning in ny after 40 yrs would make him equal Jordan his only competition. NY now worth 4 billion. Team value will triple. Once again the Zenmaster might coach again. It's possible.

23 Feb 2017 03:04:18
Celtics-Lakers-Pacers

Celtics get P.George + N.Young
-get their star player & an off the bench scoring punch
then send J.Jerebko + a future protected 1st to Mavericks for A.Bogut + 2nd round pick

Thomas-Smart-Rozier
Bradley-Young
George-Green-Young
Horford-Olynyk-Mickey
Bogut-Zeller

Lakers get J.Brown + M.Ellis
-get Brown's potential to go along with Russell & Ingram while also having Ellis as Williams replacement

Russell-Calderon-Huertas
Brown-Ellis
Ingram-Deng-Brewer
Randle-Nance
Mozgov-Zubac-Black

Pacers get J.Clarkson + J.Crowder + Nets 1st 2017 + A.Johnson + 2018 Celtics own 1st round pick + 2017 Lakers 1st round pick via Rockets
-get a loaded return for PG

2017 draft Fultz & Ivan Rabb

Fultz-Young-Brooks
Clarkson-Stuckey-Robinson
Crowder-Miles
Young-Rabb-Allen
Turner-Jefferson-Seraphin

23 Feb 2017 03:14:55
How did the Rockets get the Lakers 2017 first?

22 Feb 2017 18:11:51
Knicks Deadline Trades


Trade #1

Bulls get Ricky Rubio, Nikola Pekovic, Courtney Lee, and both Knicks 2017 2nd Round Draft Picks

Timberwolves get Derrick Rose, Joakim Noah, and Lance Thomas

Knicks get Dwayne Wade and Rajon Rondo


Trade #2

76ers get Brandon Jennings and Knicks 2018 1st Round Draft Pick

Knicks get Jahlil Okafor


Roster

Starting Lineup

PG Rondo
SG Wade
SF Melo
PF Porzingis
C Okafor

Bench

C Hernangomez
C/PF O'Quinn
SF/PF Kuzminskas
SG/SF Holiday
SG/PG Baker
SG/PG Vujacic
PF/C N'Dour
C Plumlee

22 Feb 2017 19:12:29
Noah is basically untradable with his contract.

22 Feb 2017 19:24:48
I agree carl006 but I figured the only chance might be the Timberwolves since Thibs runs basketball operations there and loves both him and Rose. Adding them to Wiggins and Towns could make them a playoff team.

22 Feb 2017 19:32:51
No, it won't. If Thibs really wanted Noah, he could have signed him in the off season. But Thibs wasn't dumb enough to give him 4 years and 72 million.

22 Feb 2017 19:33:03
Noah is untradeable, and i'd far prefer Hernangomez and Oquinn at the 5 over okafor.

22 Feb 2017 19:54:41
Hernangomez and O'Quinn > Okafor is crazy talk.

22 Feb 2017 20:12:11
I get your points about Noah. Sadie from that with all the moving parts do you guys think the value is fair?

22 Feb 2017 22:22:48
Lost in all this is eww, no thanks on Wade and Rondo in the first deal.

22 Feb 2017 17:21:55
Boston: Okafor+ 1rnd pick sac 2019

Philly: Olynyk+ 1rnd pick Nets 2017

Boston buys time in this scenario.
They can try to get KD and/or G Hayward and/or B Griffin. If they fail to land a superstar, they still have two potential 1 overall picks to trade for guys like PG13 or J Butler, who can become unhappy and who wanted to be traded.
Okafor's stock is low for the moment, but he should be a starter and he still has potential.

C: horford
PF: B griffin
SF:Crowder/ J Brown
SG: G Hayward/Bradley
PG: IT/ Smart
This team could challenge the Cavs and Golden state

Philly can fasten the rebuilt after years tanking. They can land the 1st, 2nd and 4th pick (Nets,sac(or philly) and Lakers pick.
So in an ideal scenario they can draft Fullz, J Jackson and Monk

C: Embiid/ Noel
PF: B simmons/ Saric
Sf: J Jackson/ covington
Sg: Monk
Pg: Fullz
This could be a scary team in a few years.

22 Feb 2017 17:50:10
I like this.

22 Feb 2017 18:01:16
Okafor's value now is mid to late first-rounder.
No way Celtics give up the Nets pick for so little.

22 Feb 2017 18:08:17
Lmao i don't see boston giving the nets pick up for anyone on the sixers much less okafor. We have already been through this every team knows okafor is nothing more then an average scorer, and we all know philly wants to get read of him because his value keeps dropping. If you guys really thought he could be special you wouldn't be trading him.

22 Feb 2017 19:34:59
This is horrible for the Celtics. Nets pick worth way more than Okafor, and even though the Kings are a mess there are no guarantees on a pick so far away.

22 Feb 2017 19:34:59
Oh. I like this. I wonder why.

This is flat out stupid.

22 Feb 2017 19:59:07
You're right burger, of course a sixers fan would like this.

Is there any chance boston doesn't take fultz or ball with pick 1, if they are lucky enough to get it? They passed on the guard last year.

22 Feb 2017 22:24:26
Apparently Ainge is trying to avoid trading that Nets pick in a deal for Butler, which guarantees he would not give it up for Okafor.

23 Feb 2017 04:55:25
I can see them taking Ball, Last year he took Brown when he was projected 9th. So you never know with DA.

22 Feb 2017 17:03:03
Clippers

If they feel like blowing it up (although very unlikely) I feel this is fair compensation.


LAC- Avery Bradley, Amir Johnson, & 2017 Swap rights (BRK)
BOS- Blake Griffin


LAC- Andrew Bogut, Imen Shumpert, & 2017 1st (unprotected DAL)
DAL- DeAndre Jordan
CLE- Derron Williams


LAC- Derrick Rose, 2017 1st (top 5 protected)
NYK- Chris Paul


DRAFT
1 (BRK)- PG Lonzo Ball
6 (DAL)- SF Jayson Tatum
7 (NYK)- C Jarrett Allen

22 Feb 2017 17:28:27
I like this scenario for the Clippers.
They should blow it up.
CP3 is still the best pointguard in the game. But it's insane giving him a max contract.

I only don't think D Jordan is welcome in Dallas :-) :-) :-)

22 Feb 2017 19:55:21
I'm not sure about DeAndre being brought in by Dallas, and I definitely would take the protection off of any pick coming with Rose for Paul. That's a HUGE upgrade for the Knicks. I would actually be asking for more, even considering Paul's age. At least one of the young kids like Hernangomez, and more in the way of picks.

22 Feb 2017 17:00:53
76ers trade - Okafor

Knicks trade - Rose and 17 top 7 protected 1st

Rose
Henderson
Covington
Saric
Embiid

Jennings
Lee
Melo
Porzingis
Okafor

22 Feb 2017 18:08:34
Knicks would never do this.

22 Feb 2017 22:25:56
No thanks on Okafor.

22 Feb 2017 15:08:28
Celtics trade Crowder, Rozier, A.Johnson, Jerebko, own 1st round pick 2018, 2nd round pick 2017 Clippers, 2nd round pick 2017 Cavs
Celtics get Griffin, Pierce, Holiday, Mbah

Knicks trade Anthony, Holiday
Knicks get Rozier, A.Rivers, Jerebko, W.Johnson, 1st round pick 2018 Celtics, 2nd round pick Clippers via Celtics, 2nd round pick Cavs via Celtics

Clippers trade Grffin, Pierce, A.Rivers, W.Johnson, Mbah
Clippers get Anthony, Crowder, A.Johnson

Celtics:
IT/Smart/Holiday
Bradley/Holiday/Young
J.Brown/Mbah/Pierce/Green
Griffin/Olynyk/Mickey
Horford/Zeller/Olynyk
- add another superstar in Griffin without giving up one of Nets' 1st round picks
- give J.Brown the starting job at SF with 3 vet behind (Pierce, Mbah, Green)
- trade the top pick for another superstar or draft future franchise player in loaded draft

Knicks:
- add young talent and future picks in order to rebuild around Porzingis

Clippers:
CP3/Felton/Crawford
Redick/Crawford/Anderson
Crowder/Anthony
Anthony/A.Johnson/Bass
Jordan/Speights
- if healthy Clippers is able to beat any team
- in Off-Season 2017/18 Clippers can sign LeBron James (let A.Johnson walk and CP3 opts out of contract)

22 Feb 2017 15:36:48
I feel at least one Brooklyn pick should go to LA if the C's are only giving up crowder for griffin.

22 Feb 2017 13:53:22
NYK-MIN-CHI

NYK- Dwayne Wade, & Ricky Rubio

MIN- Jimmy Butler, & Derrick Rose

CHI- Zach LeVine, Courtney Lee, Nikola Pekovic, NYK 2018 1st (top 7 protected), 2017 MIN 1st (top 5 protected).


The salaries match (Trade Machine) and i think there is a fit for these moves.


NYK gets Wade and Rubio to pair with Melo, and Prozingis to make one last run next year.

MIN gets Butler and Rose, two former Tibs players who know the system.

CHI gets LeVine and Lee to pair in the backcourt and two 1st round picks.

22 Feb 2017 14:55:52
Minnesota can't trade their 2017 1st until draft day.

And LaVine is not a PG.

22 Feb 2017 13:31:53
Lakers get Noah Rubio
Magic get Mosgov
Knicks get Clarkson Aldrich Pekovic
Wolves get Biyombo Rose Ndour

Deng Noah Ball-2nd for
Monroe Middleton TBryant-17

17-18 playoff
Russell/Rubio/Huertis
Middleton/Young/Hart-32nd
Ingram/Brewer/Artest
Black/Randle/NanceJr
Monroe/Zuboc/T.Bryant-17th

17-18 playoff
Smith-5th/Dunn/Jones
Lavine/Muhammed/Stephenson
Wiggens/Rush/Blossomgame-36
Biyombo/Bjelica/Payne
KAT/Hill/Dieng

17-18 playoff
Augustin/Payton/Watson
Fournier/Hezonja/Wilcox
Ross/Tatum-7th/J.Jackson-35
Ibaka/Gordon/Lydon-28 buy a 1st
Vucevic/Mosgov/Zimmerman

17-18 playoff
Clarkson/Ntilikina-8th/Galloway
Lee/Holiday/Bird-57th
Melo/Thomas/Kuzminskas
Porzingis/O'Quinn/Hicks-47th
Hernangomez/Plumlee/Aldric

 
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