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24 Apr 2018 23:08:36
The Celtics get Porzingas

The Knicks get Yabusele, Nader, Boston's 2018 1st, the 2019 Clippers 1st, and the King's 1st

The Celtics don't lose a rotation player in the deal and get a guy that can help them during the playoff push and for the forseeable future. They get to buy low because of the knee injury. Waiting and hoping that you can get you're future center in a draft devoid of centers next year seems like bigger risk than this.


The Knicks do the most unKnicks thing possible and truly commit to a rebuild. Their roster at this point is KP and not much else. Plus, banking on a guy with a knee injury to be your franchise corner stone is a lot more risky than banking on him to be a rim protector and 3rd option.

25 Apr 2018 03:26:29
See, I don't hate it for the Knicks or C's, but I don't think the Knicks will tap out on Porzingis, even if it is a fair offer.

24 Apr 2018 16:41:02
nba trade on draft trade
if leonard really want to leave in spurs and not signing in 2019 with spurs trade him

leonard to knicks
frank ntilikina, tim hardaway jr and 2018 new york knicks 1st rd pk for kawhi leonard

leonard to trailblazers
cj McCollum and 2018 portland trailblazers 1st rd pk and 2020 1st rd pk for kawhi leonard

leonard to clippers
deandre jordan, danilo gallinari and 2018 los angeles clippers 1st rd pk for kawhi leonard and pau gasol

not to lakers: spurs ban and trade offer from lakers
not to celtics: maybe celtics can't reach nba finals i believe celtics is a contender next season when irving hayward is back and brown on her 3rd season and tatum on her 2nd season
not to 76ers i don't think 76ers need leonard 76ers lead 3-1 over heat and 1 games left to advance in semi finals and can sign lebron james

any thoughts?

25 Apr 2018 03:36:14
All of those are terrible, Spurs hang up on the opposing GM every time.

24 Apr 2018 12:30:03
Knicks - Pacers

Knicks get:
Jefferson
Leaf
24th pick

Pacers gets:
Hardaway Jr.

24 Apr 2018 13:11:27
ok? So hardaway on an unfavorable longterm contract gets you last years first round pick and another #1 pick this year? / Pacers never would consider this.

24 Apr 2018 11:42:45
Knicks offseason

Hawks get Noah Korkmaz Mudiay Bayless C.Anderson 8th
Knicks get Schroder Bazemore Plumlee Caborrott 19 30
Sixers get Hardaway

Knicks get Howard Batum
Hornets get Lee Thomas Baker Kanter

O'Quinn opts in signs extension 3yr 36 mil 3rd yr team opt
Beasley for mle 1yr 8mil

Schroder/Ntilikina/Burke
Bazemore/Cabarrott/Martin-19
Batum/Dotson/Diop-30
O'Quinn/Beasley/Wagner-37
Howard/Plumlee/Porzingis-IR

24 Apr 2018 15:23:05
sixers want to move bayless in a deal to clear his 9 million, not take hardaways 15 million back. doesn't make any sense for Philly. Sixers want enough cap to sign a max FA and resign some of their own role players, Hardaway and his contract is the last thing they would go after.

23 Apr 2018 02:36:12
Pels - Tim Hardaway

Knicks - Solomon Hill, Cheik Diallo, Frank Jackson.

23 Apr 2018 13:33:45
If Hardaway was cheaper, then this might be possible. But his salary is a little much to bring him in as the 6th man.

22 Apr 2018 04:29:19
Cavs trade Kevin love,Cedi Osman,Brk pick,to New York for Joakim Noah

Cavs get the dpoy Joakim Noah get rid of a bad contract in Kevin love

22 Apr 2018 09:33:43
Maybe in 2014 :-) : -) :-)

22 Apr 2018 17:14:16
Cavs getting robbed.

21 Apr 2018 17:33:57
Knicks Offseason

Hire Mark Jackson as Head Coach

Hire Jerry Stackhouse as Associate Head Coach


Trades

Trade #1

Spurs get Courtney Lee, Frank Ntilikina, Lance Thomas, 2018 1st Round Draft Pick, and 2020 1st Round Draft Pick

Knicks get Kawhi Leonard


Trade #2

Hornets get Enes Kanter (sign and trade)

Knicks get Dwight Howard


Free Agency

Decline Ron Baker's option and resign him for 1 year at the league minimum

Resign Kyle O'Quinn for 4 years and $36 million

Resign Michael Beasley for 2 years and $20 million

Roster

Starting Lineup

PG Burke
SG Hardaway Jr.
SF Leonard
PF Porzingis
C Howard

Bench

PG Mudiay
SG Dotson
SF Beasley
PF O'Quinn
C Kornet
SG Baker
PF Hicks

21 Apr 2018 19:33:22
If you can pull these trades you might as well keep lee and Thomas get rid of the garbage known as Hardaway. He is 2nd coming of melo with less talent. All stats and offense, terrible plus minus against apposing starting SG.

21 Apr 2018 17:19:22
Knicks - Spurs

Knicks get:
Leonard

Spurs gets:
Lee
Burke
9th pick
37th pick
2019 1st rd pick (Top 3 protected)
2021 1st rd pick (Top 10 protected)

Knicks get a superstar and tries to win now while the Spurs move Leonard for 3 1st rd picks and a high 2nd rounder.

21 Apr 2018 19:34:19
Cant trade back to back yr 1st if they are your own 1st picks.

22 Apr 2018 13:47:45
Yes you can when the selection is made on draft night.

21 Apr 2018 09:50:05
NYK-SAS-CHA

NYK- Leonard, Mills, 11th pick (CHA)

SAS- Walker, Porzingis, MKG

CHA- Nkitilina, Lee, 9th pick (NYK), 18th pick (SAS)

21 Apr 2018 04:34:16
MIA-MIL

MIA- Parker (st)

MIL- Whiteside

both players need a fresh start, Whiteside could fit in with the young and rising Bucks team while Jabari will be a star in MIA

MIA
G- Dragic-Wade-Johnson
G- Richardson-Waiters
C- Adebayo-Olynyk
F- Parker-Winslow
F- Johnson-Babbitt-Mickey

MIL
G- Bledsoe-Jennings-Dellavedova
G- Middleton-Brogdon
C- Whiteside-Henson-Zeller
F- Giannis-Maker-Wilson
F- Snell-Muhammad

21 Apr 2018 14:40:22
It makes some sense, but is Milwaukee willing to take on 25 million for a player that doesn't fit well beside Giannis, might only be situationally valuable and will probably throw a fit if he gets played that way.

Also, do the Heat think that Parker is worth the 22 or so million that they would have to give him to match salaries? I guess it doesn't matter if like him more than Whiteside since they'd be paying him less, but would they prefer a deal with expiring contracts that can help clear their books next year. They're paying a ton of money for a roster that doesn't have much obvious upside. Any growth that they get out of their younger wings might be offset by Dragic declining with age.

20 Apr 2018 16:05:59
If Knicks get lucky and get a top 4 pick

Pelicans get Porter Baker NY 2020
Wizard get Cousins Hardaway Thomas Mudiay
Knick get Leonard Beal Mahinmi Gasol
Spurs get Kanter Lee 3rd or 4th pick

Cousins deal 5yr 150mil

Mahinmi for Roberson Abrines

Ntilikina/Burke/Carter-37
Beal/Abrines/Dotson
Leonard/Roberson/T.Williams
Porzingis/Gasol/Hicks
O'Quinn/Noah/Kornet

Murray/Mills/White
Green/Lee/Paul
Doncic or Porter-1st/Gay/Anderson
Alridge/Bertrans/Lauvergne
Kanter/M.Robinson-18/Bitadze-49

Solomon for Faried
Rondo/Clark/Jackson
Holiday/Moore/Baker
O.Porter/Miller/Liggens
Mirotic/Faried/Diallo
Davis/Okafor/Ajinca

Wall/Mudiay/Lawson
Hardaway/Satoranky/Meeks
Oubre/Thomas/Diop-42
R.Williams-15/Morris/Scott
Cousins/Gortat/Smith

20 Apr 2018 16:46:34
Knicks are getting way to much and the Spurs and Wizards are getting way to little.

Also, Mahimi for Roberson and Abrines is terrible for the Thunder. Mahimi is on a bad contract and the Thunder have a starting center, but they clearly miss Roberson and have no other sg that can be a plus player for them.

20 Apr 2018 17:06:16
I think everyone but the Knicks pass.

20 Apr 2018 17:12:46
Unbelievable for complexity and rules alone. You can’t S&T someone in a trade like that.

20 Apr 2018 19:15:13
Cousins can be trade by himself, no matter how many teams are involved in a sign and trade. Kanter better Gasol Lee Doncic/ Porter equal to Leonard, when you consider his injury, his contract vs rookie star contract and his undesire to play for spurs. Wizards get Cousins all while clearing Porter and Mahinmi. Beal and wall not getting along. Hardaway not as good Beal but closer disparity than cousins and mahinmi. Cousins so much better than Mahinmi. Porter is expandable and over paid but Pelicans can use him better than solomon or moore at sf while getting future pick, Oubre behind him and better fit.

20 Apr 2018 19:15:46
Gasol for Roberson and Abrines should be better.

21 Apr 2018 16:15:38
Cousins is staying in NOLA, and the Pels would not take that package for a highly overpaid Porter.

20 Apr 2018 13:23:21
Knicks - Nets

Knicks gets:
Russell
Carroll
29th pick
40th pick
2019 2nd rd pick back

Nets gets:
Noah
Thomas
9th pick

20 Apr 2018 16:58:06
Add crabbe and Hardaway,

20 Apr 2018 17:00:27
I like this trade, The Nets are one of the few teams that could take Noah's contract.

20 Apr 2018 17:49:11
this deal seems to write russell off as garbage. if ny wants to offer their pick to dump noah, getting a former 2nd overall pick who to me looks like a future all star, is a dream and a half.

20 Apr 2018 21:28:52
Russell is going to be good, but the Nets can start tanking next year. So they better trade their assets for picks.

But NY could give an extra draft pick in this trade.

21 Apr 2018 02:58:43
Nets are already tanking, and Russell is part of the rebuild.

19 Apr 2018 21:41:22
Hawks - Knicks

Hawks gets:
9th pick
37th pick

Knicks gets:
19th pick
30th pick
33rd pick
2019 1st rd pick (Cavs)
2020 2nd rd pick (Trail Blazers)

19 Apr 2018 22:19:31
Knicks pass.

19 Apr 2018 23:26:33
Pretty terrible for the Knicks. The Cavs pick is top 10 protected the next two years and if it doesn't convey in 2020 it's 2 2nd round picks. So If Lebron stays, it's a pick on the 20s and if he leaves, it's likely 2 2nds.

20 Apr 2018 13:14:34
10 spots is a huge drop for a rebuilding team, and 2nd's are never sure fire NBA'ers. I don't like it for the Knicks.

19 Apr 2018 10:16:32
Boston: Leonard+Adebayo+Olynyk

Miami: Hayward

Spurs:Tatum+ Waiters

19 Apr 2018 13:09:23
Tatum's a good start, but Spurs are going to want more than him and an overpaid Waiters in return.

19 Apr 2018 14:43:07
I don't see why Miami would be needed here. The Celtics really don't have much of a need for Olynyk and I don't see Bam as the center that Boston wants for the future. I don't think Waiters has much value.

I also don't think that Miami would be very interested in moving Bam. It looks like Whiteside's days in Miami might be coming to an end. He doesn't seem to want to be there and Miami doesn't seem to want him.

The Spurs would want more than just Tatum.

18 Apr 2018 17:21:27
Miami: G Hayward

Boston; Adebayo+Waiters+Olynyk

boston:
C:Adebayo/Baynes/Olynyk
PF:Horford/Morris
Sf:Tatum/ J Brown
SG: Smart/Waiters
PG:Irving/Rozier

Boston get a defensive centre, they can resign and keep Smart.

Miami
C:Whiteside
PF:Johnson
SF:Winslow/
SG:Hayward
PG:Dragic
Sixth: D Wade/ J Richardson

18 Apr 2018 19:30:32
boston is not trading hayward. that is brad stevens son and he only got to coach him for 3 minutes so far.

18 Apr 2018 19:40:11
That trade is just not even close talent wise. Gordon Hayward is a top 20-25 guy in the league, while the other 3 are rotation players. And you must not have seen a single Celtics game if you think Marcus Smart would start over Jaylen Brown.

18 Apr 2018 20:05:45
Maybe if Ainge started doing hard drugs, but it's hard to see that happening.

19 Apr 2018 10:10:59
Comme on, Boston should trade a wing or let Smart go.
I would keep Brown and Tatum and i believe they can sign Smart on a reasonable contract. So they best trade Hayward.

Boston needs a defensive center so Adebayo is a perfect fit for that team. Horford can play PF, shoot threes an pass the ball. And Adebayo can do the dirty work.
Olynyk already knows the house and Waiters already played with Irving. And both players are on reasonable contracts, so they can trade them after this year for other assets.

19 Apr 2018 15:10:28
Why, do the Celtics need a defensive C? That type of player doesn't work for their system. They are never g oing to make a blockbuster trade to get one. If they happen to draft one, or sign a FA for the back end of the roster, fine.

19 Apr 2018 15:18:33
I've never been a huge fan of Heyward and think he's somewhat overrated, but I don't see this being a good trade for the Celtics. Bam's a nice player, but I think they can get a better young center and they already have a ton of depth and will struggle to find enough roster spots for their picks. They need to be packaging assets to get better players rather than the other way around.

18 Apr 2018 04:55:11
Noah comeback season starts with a little faith by management. Than loosing 15 lbs to start at center. It seems like long shot from happening but with Porzingis out until 2019 and Kanter considering opting out, no other option. Hopefully ny native Bamba falls to 9th or or knicks get higher pick to land him. Eventually playing Noah will restore some value to trade him at trading deadline

Hardaway Mudiay for Mathews Barea
Lee Thomas for Bayless Korkmaz Anderson Cabarrot

DEADLINE TRADE
Pacers get Felicio
Bulls get Noah Kornet
Knicks get Asik Jefferson

By end of the season
Ntilikina/Burke/Barea
Cabarrot/Korkmaz/Bayless
Dotson/Anderson/Mathews
Porzingis/Wagner-43/Jefferson
Bamba-9th/Metu-37/Asik

2019 summer
Trade Korkmaz for 2 late 2nd
Buy 2nd
Harris get 4yr 100 mil
Walker get 4yr 100 mil
Thompson get 4yr 120 mil
Now Porzingis sign extension 5yr 200mil

Walker/Ntilikina/Ponds-2nd
Thompson/Cabarrot/Mathews-2nd
Williamson-1st/Dotson/Simanic-2nd
Harris/Wagner/Metu
Porzingis/Bamba/Jeter-2nd

18 Apr 2018 14:15:35
How is that Knicks team any better than it is now? Dotson starting at the 3? TLC at the 2?

Also, it ain't going to happen for Noah. The 15 pounds are not the issue, it's that he's past his prime.

18 Apr 2018 15:33:28
Noah is never going to be a starting player in the league again. He just doesn't have it in him physically. What he can do, is become a solid low minute bench player who comes in and wreaks havoc for a few minutes a game. He's going to be insanely overpaid for that role, but he could be a good player for a team that's rebuilding with cheap contracts. What I envision for him is a PJ Brown type of role for the 2008 Celtics. the trouble will be finding a team that's the caliber of that Celtics team with enough space to absorb the contract.

17 Apr 2018 22:17:30
Noah comeback season starts with a little faith by management. Than loosing 15 lbs to start at center. It seems like long shot from happening but with Porzingis out until 2019 and Kanter considering opting out, no other option. Hopefully ny native Bamba falls to 9th or or knicks get higher pick.

Knicks sign T.Young 1 yr 15mil

Hardaway Mudiay for Mathews Barea
Lee Thomas for Bayless Korkmaz Anderson Cabarrot


Ntilikina/Burke
Cabarrott/Korkmaz
Mathews/Anderson
Young/Wagner-37/Porzingis-IR
Noah/Bamba/Bitadze-47

18 Apr 2018 01:49:10
Lose 15lbs? Do you watch basketball?

He’s a smalll center as is. He’s 6’11 230lb. You want him down to 215lb?

Awesome. Well thought out.

18 Apr 2018 13:44:21
Joakim Noah gets shreaded and does not get push around. i'm sure he weighs more than 230 listed. 225 lbs for body frame is solid weight to make one push to restore his career.

17 Apr 2018 21:24:15
Took some time working on possible trades for the hawks tell me if you think their possible or realistic.

Trades involving Plumlee

1)Knicks receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Joakim Noak, Pick 37 2018 draft, and possibly a future 2nd

Pros Knicks receive a center who is willing to play and 6 Mill in cap and about 7 mill the following year
Pros Hawks receive draft picks as well as a defensive minded center who could be a mentor for John Collins

2)Magic receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Bismack Biyombo and pick 41 in 2018 draft.

Pros magic receive 4.5 mill in cap for the next 3 years which could be useful in Aaron Gordons free agency or for another free agent
Pros Hawks receive draft pick and 25 year old who is a little bit more in line with their time line

3) Wizards receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Mahinmi and pick 44 in 2018 draft

Pros Wizards receive around 4.2 mill in cap this year which they could really use what with other bad contracts as well as a younger center
Pros Hawks receive draft pick

4)Rockets receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Ryan Anderson and pick 46 and possibly a future 2nd or 1st

Pros Rockets receive 7.1 mill this year and around 8 and 9 mill for the next two years respectively and for a LBJ pursuit this could be valuable
Pros Hawks receive draft picks as well as a possible shooting mentor for John Collins

5)Lakers receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks recieve Loul Deng pick 47 and future 2nd

Pros Lakers gain 4.7 in cap this year and around 5 mill in the next two years and with a club going after cap its a win
Pros Hawks gain draft picks and mentor

6)Memphis Receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Chandler Parsons Ivan Rabb and pick 32

Pros Memphis gains 11.5 mill in cap which could help sign a decent free agent
Pros Hawks get a pick and a young player

7) Pelicans receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Solomon Hill and ether Etwaun Moore or Alexis Ajinca and pick 51 and possibly a future heavy protected first

Pros Pels receive between 4.5 and 8.2 in cap depending on which second player is put in giving them much needed cap space for boogie or another free agent
Pros Hawks receive draft picks

8) Suns receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Brandon Knight and Jared Dudley with pick 16 or pick 51 and a future 1st round pick

Pros suns receive 11 mill in cap and get rid of an older player out of their time line
Pros hawks receive draft picks a okay pg who if schroder gets traded could replace as the starter and a menter in dudley for Prince

9) Nets receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Timofey Mozgov and pick 45

Pros Nets receive a younger center and gain 2.8 in cap this year and around 3-3.8 mill the next two years
Pros Hawks gain draft pick.

17 Apr 2018 22:13:48
I Like the magic trade.

17 Apr 2018 22:28:48
I don't agree with a few of the scenarios but i definitely respect the depth of thought involved

In the scenario with the Pels it just would not work out when Boogie re-signs. It would leave Darius Miller as your only true SF and would not give them the cap room to sign a decent SF in FA. Pels have to continue growth or risk losing AD

Of all the scenarios i see Houston as most likely maybe Memphis second most.

17 Apr 2018 22:54:08
Maybe Minnesota for Dieng?

18 Apr 2018 00:22:09
10) Minnesota receives Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Grogui Deng and Pick 48 and future second due to his contract being one year longer than plumlees

Pros Wolves gain 2-5 mill over the next four years
Pros Hawks gain draft picks.

17 Apr 2018 21:19:06
Took some time working on possible trades for the hawks tell me if you think their possible or realistic.

1)Knicks receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Joakim Noah and pick 37 in 2018 nba draft

Pros knicks receive about 5.3 in cap this year and around 6-7 mill for the following two years as well as a center who is willing to play
Pros Hawks receive draft pick and a defensive minded center who could be a mentor for John Collins who needs help on the defensive side

17 Apr 2018 21:28:44
Im not sure ATL would bite so early. This could be a potential deal at trading deadline. Idiot ny management must learn to change their mentality about how to treat players they don't want. Start playing them more to increase their trade value. With Porzingis likely out until next January and kanter considering opting out. Noah should see more playing time. So this trade could happen in 2019. But not before that.

17 Apr 2018 02:25:55
MIA/PHX/ATL

MIA get Tyson Chandler & TJ Warren
- Chandler will serve as Adebayo's mentor and they get a young talented wing in Warren

Pg Dragic/Johnson
Sg Richardson/Wade/Waiters
Sf Warren/Babbitt
Pf Johnson/Olynyk
Ce Adebayo/Chandler

PHX get Hassan Whiteside, Dennis Shroeder & 4th pick
- get their CE & PG to move 3 spots in a deep draft
- draft Marvin Bagley or Justin Jackson

Pg Shroeder/Ulis
Sg Booker/Daniels
Sf Jackson/Dudley
Pf Bagley/Chriss
Ce Whiteside/Bender/Len

ATL get 1st pick & Brandon Knight
- draft Ayton

17 Apr 2018 05:00:02
I don't think the heat give up Whiteside for Warren and Chandler. Also Atlanta doesn't get #1 Just for throwing in Schroeder. Knight contract I expiring so pic is better of either packaging it for a star or keeping him.

17 Apr 2018 06:55:41
USA, You said it yourself that this was a deep draft. So why would the hawks trade away their best player (a 24 year old locked down on a very friendly $15.5 mil contract for the next 3 years) and absorb Knights awful contract (in terms of player value) for the next two years if they can get a solid prospect with the 4th pick? Suns need to be giving up more.

17 Apr 2018 07:32:46
how about i add Ulis to Hawks?

17 Apr 2018 19:10:13
@jdp knight’s contract is thru 19-20.

 
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