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29 Jul 2016 15:54:54
Bulls: C Anthony+ 1rnd pick Knicks
LA: Butler
Knicks: Ingram+ Young+ L Williams+ T gibson.

29 Jul 2016 16:17:50
It's a decent trade, but I don't see the Lakers moving Ingram yet.

29 Jul 2016 16:22:26
Lakers would have to include Russell instead of Williams and young.

29 Jul 2016 16:30:45
Knicks get way to much for Carmelo. He's not an elite player anymore. Now he reminds me a bit of Kobe in his final years. Takes a lot of shots he used to make but just doesn't anymore.

Bulls would pass extremely quick.

29 Jul 2016 16:46:12
This would be the first time Carmello plays with a passing PG and i do think D Wade has something left in the tank

C: B Lopez
PF: Mirotic/ Portis
Sf: C Anthony/ Valentine
Sg: D Wade / Valentine
PG: Rondo/ grant.

29 Jul 2016 17:54:15
Come on tre. Stop the Melo hate. Many consider his last year one of his best of his career. Rebounds assists. All up. Started actually playing defense. You are exaggerating just a tad.

29 Jul 2016 18:42:25
Hamburger.

I don't hate melo. I just know he's not an elite talent. I see him as a better Rudy gay at this point. Which isn't a bad player. Just not a star anymore. Don't get me wrong the Knicks are a boarder line Playoff team this year.

I'm just giving you my opinion of melo. Not a hater I just never really been huge on his game. I also know that he's older now. 32 is certainly not in his prime.

29 Jul 2016 19:32:44
Melo is a downgrade from butler. The Knicks 2020 pick doesn't change the difference in value. After the wade signing the Bulls would need to be blown away to move butler.

29 Jul 2016 20:11:18
Melo deserves more credit.
He's still a great player
I truly think the Bulls have a better chance winning with Melo than with Butler.

29 Jul 2016 20:43:50
Tre. i'm just looking at the numbers. You always talk about the numbers, except with melo. So here goes.

i know you consider Paul george an elite talent.

Melo rebounded better, assisted better. They had approximately the same PER. And while melos scored 1.3 pts less than george, Melo shot at a better fg% than George.

If you are talking about where you expect him to be in a couple years, that's one thing. His performance last year however puts him right up there with elite SF. Only durant and james were clearly better.

I respect your opinion on him, but its just ridiculous to say he's a better rudy gay and not a star. He is putting up some of the best numbers in the league. Rudy gay is an inferior scorer, rebounder and simply doesn't pass it.

29 Jul 2016 14:33:00
The next years the league will be dominated by superteams: Golden state, cleveland and the Spurs. So other teams should try to built a superteam or go tanking and rebuilt


Boston: J Butler+ Westbrook+ Cousins
Chi: A Johnson+ Crowder+ 1rnd pick 18 Nets+1 rnd pick Memphis 19
OKC: I Thomas+ 1rnd pick Nets 17
Sac: J Brown+ Smart+ Olynyk

Ok, Boston receive three stars, but i can see these moves happen.

Chicago:
J Butler is better than Crowder. But i don't think Butler and Wade are a good fit. I think the Bulls only give Wade a contract to sell tickets. With or without Butler, this team is going to a first round exit. So Crowder is a cheap replacement for Butler. The Bulls will make the playoffs te next two years and the Nets pick (and the Memphis pick) gives them a chance to a quick rebuilt after Wade retires.

OKC:
OKC can't risk losing Westbrook for nothing one year after Durant left for free. The thing is no team will offer a lot for a one year rental. so his trades value is going down
I Thomas isn't Westbrook, but he's good and fun to watch. The Nets pick is an opportunity. OKC is good in drafting players. They will have two picks in a deep draft, so they could do a quick rebuilt
IMO Boston is overpaying for a player they can sign next year for free.

Sacramento
I believe Sacramento is the winner in this trade. Cousins maybe is the best center in the league, but he has low trade value and he can't bring the Kings into the playoffs. The Kings recieve a promissing SF and a good PG. Also the Kings pick is protected next year, so if they're really bad, they can keep that pick


C: Cousins
PF: Horford
SF: J Butler
G: Bradley
G: Westbrook.

29 Jul 2016 15:20:29
Don't see the Kings doing this but the other trades look like they could be done.

29 Jul 2016 16:00:15
That team. would win 5 straight titles.

29 Jul 2016 19:34:20
Not close on butler or cousins deals.

29 Jul 2016 01:09:05
Magic Get: Jaylen Brown, Ben Bentil

Celtics Get: Aaron Gordon

Nuggets Get: Amir Johnson, Cavs 2017 2nd (via Celtics)


Payton/ Augustin/ Watson
Fournier/ Meeks/ Wilcox
Brown/ Hezonja
Ibaka/ Green/ Bentil
Vucevic/ Biyombo/ Zimmerman

Thomas/ Smart/ Jackson
Bradley/ Rozier/ Hunter
Crowder/ Green/ Young
Gordon/ Jerebko/ Mickey
Hoford/ Olynyk/ Zeller.

29 Jul 2016 04:27:21
Why'd you include the nuggets?

29 Jul 2016 05:48:25
Horford is going to play the 4.

29 Jul 2016 08:30:25
Nuggets because Boston need to get rid of 3 players and there's no harm in giving up a 2nd to clear $12m.

29 Jul 2016 16:23:39
Why would Boston give up a starter, the third pick in this year's draft and another first-round pick for a guy who was not even a full-time starter for Orlando?

29 Jul 2016 17:26:44
@Supercollider. Why would the magic trade Gordon for an unproven player and a 51st pick in the draft.

29 Jul 2016 19:37:46
I don't think gordon fits as a starter with the magic now that they have Ibaka. I don't see him as a 3.

26 Jul 2016 01:32:27
SAC-BOS-PHX

SAC recieves Brandon Knight, Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart, Amir Johnson, 2017 BKN 1st round swap rights, and 2018 BKN 1st round pick
SAC trades Rudy Gay and DeMarcus Cousins

BOS recieves DeMarcus Cousins
BOS trades Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart, Amir Johnson, 2017 BKN 1st round swap rights, 2018 BKN 1st round pick, and 2018 BOS 31-55 protected 2nd round pick

PHX recieves Rudy Gay and 2018 BOS 31-55 protected 2nd round pick
PHX trades Brandon Knight

Sacremento gets good pieces to rebuild with including two very likely top 10 picks, an above average point guard, and the third pick in this years draft.

Boston adds a star to help them contend next season.

Phoenix recieves a quality small forward and is able to clear rotation space for young players Booker and Ulis.

Knight-Collison/ Smart
Afflalo-McLemore
Brown-Casspi
Johnson-Labissiere
Koufos-WCS

Thomas-Rozier
Bradley-Green
Crowder-Young
Horford-Jerebko
Cousins-Olynyk

Bledsoe-Ulis
Booker-Barbosa
Gay-Dudley/ Tucker
Bender-Chriss
Chandler-Len.

26 Jul 2016 05:06:56
Boston will NOT trade all that for both Nets pick unless they were going to be getting LBJ, and we all know that's not going to happen to just recieve Cousins. Okafor will eventually get dealt to Boston for a lot less.

26 Jul 2016 15:57:54
Look. PHX is going for a youth movememnt. rightly or no. that's what they're doing so, no, they're not going to do any deals that get them guys like Rudy Gay. Suns say no to this one.

25 Jul 2016 14:12:02
PHX/ SAC/ BOS

PHX get Marcus Smart and Rudy Gay

SAC get Brandon Knight, Kelly Olynyk, Jaylen Brown, BKN 1st 2017, BOS 1st 2018 and 2 2nd from PHX

BOS get Demarcus Cousins.

25 Jul 2016 15:53:14
Cousins is a great center, but i think his trade value isn't that high anymore
So i think Boston can get him cheaper.

There are rumors Phoenix wants Gay, so in that case, this is a good trade for them.


I love this trade for Sacramento, this is a jackpot for them.
They're going to be bad next year, so they can keep their own draftpick ( sent to Philly, protected)
And they can start rebuilding with two good draft picks and J Brown.

25 Jul 2016 17:15:46
You might be able to get Boston's blood for Cousins, but you won't get the Celtics' bone marrow.

26 Jul 2016 04:16:28
PHX wants Rudy Gay? Yeah. about 7-8 years ago maybe. but not now.

25 Jul 2016 09:24:21
Houston send - James Harden, Ryan Anderson, Eric Gordon
receive - Avery Bradley, Marcus Smart, 2018 Brooklyn 1st, 2019 Memphis 1st
Boston send - Avery Bradley, Marcus Smart, 2018 Brooklyn 1st, 2019 Memphis 1st, Amir Johnson, Kelly Olynyk
receive - James Harden, Ryan Anderson
New York send - Kristaps Porzingis
receive - Amir Johnson, Kelly Olynyk, Eric Gordon

Draft picks and/ or cash considerations could be added in to this or possibly some lower players to balance it out. Houston begins to rebuild trading for draft picks and a potential all-star in Porzingis as well as solid starters or sixth men in Bradley and Smart. New York builds are really solid roster with lots of depth and Boston forms a big three to threaten the Cavs.

25 Jul 2016 11:07:45
Who receives Porzingis?


I don't think Houston wants to rebuilt, but that would be a smart move.

25 Jul 2016 12:22:13
Knicks say hell no.

25 Jul 2016 17:19:22
The Celtics have no use for Harden.

25 Jul 2016 20:23:46
Sorry Houston gets Kristaps.

25 Jul 2016 23:48:58
Not understanding the cba nor do u know how to evaluate talent. Smh.

24 Jul 2016 18:08:11
Celtics-Cavs-Kings

Celtics get Kevin Love, Willie Cauley-Stein, and rights to Luka Mitrovic (from Kings)
-Then trade for Westbrook

Cavs get Rudy Gay, Amir Johnson, and rights to Bogdan Bogdanovic (from Kings)

Kings get Isaiah Thomas and Kelly Olynyk.

24 Jul 2016 18:22:49
I like it.

24 Jul 2016 18:32:46
Don't think the Celtics do this because they are giving up the Captain of their team for 2 more bigs, and they are not going to have Horford, Love, and WCS. I think the thunder would have to be involved because they would need to take one of those bigs and the Celtics would need to be sure they were getting Westbrook.

24 Jul 2016 18:38:57
the Celtics are also giving up 2 bigs. This would likely be their big man rotation
Love/ Jerebko/ Mickey
Horford/ WCS/ Zeller.

24 Jul 2016 13:54:45
Boston-bucks- Chi- New Orléans

Boston: Butler
Bucks: J holiday+ Hield+Asik+ A Johnson
Chi: Middleton+ Smart
NO: Monroe+ MCW+ 1rnd pick Bos 17 (swap Nets)

Bost: Noel
Philly: Bradley

Bos:
C: Noel
PF:Horford
SF: Crowder
SG: J Butler
PG: I Thomas
Sixth: Rozier/ Olynyk/ J Brown

Milwaukee
C: Asik/ Henson
PF: Parker
SF/ Antetopounmpo
SG:Hield
PG: Holiday

Chi:
C:R Lopez/ Portis
PF: Mirotic/ gibson
SF: Middleton
SG:Wade
PG: Rondo/ Smart

NO
C: Monroe
PF: Davis
SF: T Evans
SG: MC Williams
PG: Cole

Boston receive a star and a two way player
Chicago receive a guy that can shoot the three's and a young PG

The bucks dump Monroe and receive a good SG an a PG

NO : A Davis can compensate Monroe's defensive play and they receive a verry good draft pick.

24 Jul 2016 14:35:47
BOS not giving enough.

24 Jul 2016 15:26:12
I like it

24 Jul 2016 16:59:55
Bucks get ripped again.
I can see half of it makings sense (Monroe for Asik and Holliday), but probably makes more sense with Evans instead of Holliday when he is healthy.
But no way Heild and Johnson get you Middleton.

Boston offered #3 plus other assets for Middleton. And the Bucks said no.

24 Jul 2016 20:03:04
I agree, Boston has to give up more to get Butler. Offered basically that same package for Butler, Jabari, and Middleton individually and it was immediately turned down instantly all three times.

24 Jul 2016 02:36:31
BOS/ LAC/ SAC

BOS get Blake Griffin and Paul Pierce

Pg Thomas/ Rozier
Sg Bradley/ Green
Sf Crowder/ Pierce
Pf Griffin/ Yabusele
Ce Horford/ Johnson/ Zeller

LAC get Jaylen Brown, Rudy Gay, RJ Hunter and Kelly Olynyk + BKN 1st 2017

Pg Paul/ Rivers
Sg Reddick/ Crawford/ Hunter
Sf Brown/ Johnson/ Pierce
Pf Gay/ Bass/ Mbah Moute
Ce Jordan/ Olynyk

SAC get Marcus Smart

Pg Smart/ Collison
Sg Afflalo/ Temple
Sf Barnes/ Mclemore
Pf Casspi/ Papagiannis/ Skal
Ce Cousins/ WCS/ Koufos.

24 Jul 2016 04:27:55
Celtics don't have that much cap space, it would have to be Amir Johnson in place of Kelly Olynyk.

24 Jul 2016 12:26:43
This would be a great return for sacramento.

23 Jul 2016 13:56:59
3 Team Trade Kings-Bucks-Celtics

Kings trade Gay, WCS
Kings receive Rozier, MCW, Hunter, 2017 1st from Bucks (top 8 protected),
Bucks trade Monroe, MCW, 1st Rd 17
Bucks receive WCS, Gay
Celtics trade Rozier, Hunter
Celtics receive Monroe

Celtics roster
Thomas/ Smart
Bradley/ Young
Crowder/ Brown
Horford/ Johnson/ Jerebko
Monroe/ Olynyk/ Zizic


Bucks Roster- resign Novak
Giannis/ Delly
Middleton/ Vaughn/ Brogdon
Gay/ Novak
Parker/ Maker
WCS/ Henson/ Plumlee.

23 Jul 2016 15:59:55
Doesn't work cap wise, Boston would have to move out 12+ million in salary. I know Bucks want to move Munroe but think they would hold out for more than Rozier/ Hunter.

23 Jul 2016 03:39:38
Trade

Bos - D. Cousins

Sac - J. Brown, M. Smart, R. Hunter, T. Rozier, K. Olynyk 2017 1st rd pick.

23 Jul 2016 10:44:04
To much for Cousins.

22 Jul 2016 14:16:05
Nets


BRK- Amir Johnson, Kelly Olynyk, Marcus Smart, 2018 BRK 1st.
BOS- Brook Lopez

Brooklyn is not winning anytime soon. Brook Lopez has a lot of value and should be moved now. The Salaries match up and the Nets get their 2018 1st round pick back along with two young players. Johnson and Olynyk (option) are in the last year of their deals which allows BRK to clear more cap space to fill the team with talent.

22 Jul 2016 15:36:00
I agree bkn need to move Brook. This also would almost guarantee best odds at the 1st pick this year.

22 Jul 2016 16:34:46
Which belongs to Boston.

22 Jul 2016 17:08:16
Nets should jump all over this.

22 Jul 2016 17:59:27
Brooke to Boston makes a lot of sense. He would fit great with horford. Brooklyn could go into true rebuilding if they got one of their picks back. And it would give Boston on of the best big man duos in the NBA (if not the best) .

22 Jul 2016 18:08:39
Daniel-that's my point. Make the trade as Boston to guarantee they are the worst team in the league and get brook.

22 Jul 2016 18:36:47
Two starters, another rotation player and the possible first overall pick for a center with bad wheels? Really?
Ainge would probably do Olynyk and a non-Brooklyn No. 1, but not anything more.

22 Jul 2016 19:15:02
I think if Danny was going to make the trade with Brooklyn I don't think he would want to give up 3 rotational players and a projected high pick for just Brook Lopez. It makes us a very weak team depth wise. The roster would be like this:

Thomas/ Rozier
Bradley/ Hunter
Crowder/ Brown
Horford/ Jerebko
Lopez/ Zeller?

That team isn't going to contend due to the lack of depth and shooting. I know that what we are giving up doesn't have much shooting besides Olynyk but it is depth at key big man positions and guard positions instead of playing 2 players that are second year players and hardly played last year. Need more experience from the back-up guards in my opinion, hence why Turner was such a huge lose for us.

22 Jul 2016 20:30:21
Honestly you could condense the trade to just smart and the pick for Lopez. I assumed Johnson and olynyk were just throwins, they're not very high value guys, they pretty basic role players.

It leaves the Celtics with their depth, and gives the nets what they want; their pick back and a young prospect.

22 Jul 2016 22:59:33
If BKN did that trade with BOS that almost guarantees best odds at #1 pickk for BOS in the 2017 draft.

23 Jul 2016 12:04:03
@Supercollider
Danny A. Is that you?

Olynyk and a late first (so nonvalue) for brook Lopez. really?

21 Jul 2016 17:55:30
Boston-Clippers-NY

Boston: CP3+ C Anthony
Clippers: Crowder+ I Thomas+ Jerebko
NY: J Brown+ Bradley


The Clippers get younger and deeper.

Boston becomes a contender (outsider) and they keep the Nets picks, so they can quickly rebuilt after CP3/ C Anthony and Horford becomes to old. And Smart can learn from CP3

NY receive two young players, so they can rebuilt around Porzingis

Boston
C: Olynyk
PF: Horford
C: C Anthony
SG: J Young
PG: CP3
sixth: Smart

Clippers
C: D Jordan
PF: Griffin
SF:Crowder
SG: Reddick
PG: I Thomas
Sixth: Crawford

NY:
C: Noah
PF: Porzingis
SF: Brown
SG: Bradley
PG: Ross
Sixth: C Lee.

21 Jul 2016 18:09:40
Clippers say no. they're not going to trade one of the top PG's in the game to get a pg who takes shots away from redick and blake.

21 Jul 2016 18:16:23
Olynyk and young in the starting lineup? Gross.

21 Jul 2016 18:36:44
I think its hilarious that you have James Young as a starter. He is the worst player on this team. He got out preformed by second round draft picks in summer league so much so that he didn't even play after the first 2 games. He will be out of the league in a year or two no doubt.

21 Jul 2016 22:06:34
James Young will not be on the opening day roster.

21 Jul 2016 00:18:52
Knicks 2017 Summer

Knicks get Wade
Bulls get Lee Thomas

Noah for Rockets 1st

Sign lebron and CP3 Resign Jennings

Payroll 100mil
CP3/ Jennings/ 2nd
Wade/ 1st/ 1st
Melo/ Kuzminskas/ 2nd
Lebron/ O'Quinn/ Ndour
Porzingis/ Hernangomez/ Plumlee.

21 Jul 2016 06:05:53
Yea okay lol.

21 Jul 2016 07:37:51
I did read about wade almost signing with the Knicks or would of.

21 Jul 2016 14:16:59
Clearly not happening. and that crap about the knicks almost signing wade was just anthony speculating that if they made an offer before they signed lee, he would have accepted. he's just trolling the media.

20 Jul 2016 19:28:25
LAC-SAC-BOS-LAL

4 team trades are rare, but I think this one would benefit all involved.

LAC- Rudy Gay, Julius Randle, Marcus Smart, 2018 BRK 1st
SAC- D'Angalo Russell, Jaylon Brown, Amir Johnson
BOS- Blake Griffin, Nick Young
LAL- DeMarcus Cousins, Paul Pierce

Salaries match up via NBA Trade Machine.


LAC-They're actively shopping Griffin knowing their current big-3 is not working. Gay would step in as the starting 3 while Randle would replace Griffin. Smart could come off the bench as Bledsoe did a few years back. They also pick up a future 1st from BOS via BRK. I think LA improves from this deal.

C- Deandre Jordan/ Marreese Speights
PF- Julius Randle/ Brandon Bass
SF- Rudy Gay/ Wesley Johnson
SG- JJ Reddick/ Jamal Crawford
PG- Chris Paul/ Marcus Smart


SAC- Cousins is rotting in SAC. He will never win and they're silly to hold onto him. This is a great time to move him for some young pieces to rebuild. Russell and Brown are future stars and Johnson is a good 1 year contract to shed. This would instantly improve the rebuild.

C- Willie Cauley-Stein/ Kosta Koufos
PF- Amir Johnson/ Omri Casspi
SF- Jaylon Brown/ Matt Barnes
SG- Aaron Afflalo/ Garrett Temple
PG- D'Angalo Russell/ Darren Collison


BOS-We all know how bad Boston wants a star. Griffin is the most logical fit. With their young talent and draft picks, they can make it happen. Griffin gives BOS one of the most complete starting 5's in the league. Young will be a good bench guy that they desperately need.

C- Al Horford/ Kelly Olynyk
PF- Blake Griffin/ Jonas Jerebko
SF- Jae Crowder/ Nick Young
SG- Avery Bradley/ RJ Hunter
PG- Isaiah Thomas/ Terry Rozier


LAL-The Lakers have some good young players, but they won't compete for years. They need to speed up the process. Knowing Westbrook Is a FA at the end of the year could influence them to get another star to attract him. Westbrook, Cousins and Ingram could be a solid big-3.

C- DeMarcus Cousins/ Timofey Mosgov
PF- Luol Deng/ Larry Nance
SF- Brandon Ingram/ Paul Pierce
SG- Jordan Clarkson/ Lou Williams
PG- Jose Calderon/ Marcelo Huertas.

20 Jul 2016 20:15:59
I really like this trade for all teams. But to me I think that Young is useless and we already have that in someone with the same last name. I think if you take him out and send Pierce to Boston instead of LA (since LA is also not sending too much and is getting the best player) would make this deal better.

20 Jul 2016 21:10:37
@LarryLegend you forgot to mention Paul Pierce would not be accepted by Laker fans.

20 Jul 2016 22:00:48
Believe LA gets too much for too little as well, don't think they should get Pierce and that maybe they should offer a pick.

20 Jul 2016 23:23:34
What about send pierce back to boston and lakers keep young because i know as a laker fan that nick young has zero value.

21 Jul 2016 07:40:25
How about Lakers keep young and send out Williams.

21 Jul 2016 11:36:09
Sacramento isn't getting enough as usual.

21 Jul 2016 14:58:20
Boston needs to Sacremento another piece.

20 Jul 2016 00:56:26
Celtics and Bucks trade

Celtics get Monroe

Bucks get Johnson, Olynyk and Rozier

Celtics lineup

Thomas Smart
Bradley Hunter Young
Crowder Brown
Horford Mickey Jerebko Bentil
Monroe Zeller (resign) Zizic

Bucks get 2 expiring contracts and an up an coming PG in Rozier.

20 Jul 2016 21:41:13
celtics say no.

19 Jul 2016 18:31:38
Prediction: The Pacers have a tough season and Pual George is getting unhappy in Indiana. He wants to play for a contender and Indiana looks to rebuild. Boston has the assests to trade for Paul George. Brooklyn sucks and gets the number one pick.

Boston gets Paul George

Pacers get 2017 Brooklyn Swap (#1 pick - Harry Giles or Josh Jackson), 2018 Brooklyn 1st, Jaylen Brown, Demetrius Jackson

Boston signs Gordan Hayward, Serge Ibaka

Thomas/ Smart
Hayward/ Bradley
George/ Crowder
Ibaka/ Olynyk
Horford/ Zeller

Boston wins 2018 NBA Championship.

19 Jul 2016 19:53:42
Can't see that team winning the championship.

19 Jul 2016 21:14:44
How is he unhappy they jus upgraded with Jefferson, Teague and young.

19 Jul 2016 22:04:01
If you can't see that team winning a championship, you are more dillusional than I thought.

19 Jul 2016 23:03:21
Dunno how that team can't win a championship @SoB, the main issue is the money situation.

19 Jul 2016 23:40:05
I don't think PG13 is unhappy, but i'll do that trade.

20 Jul 2016 00:27:35
On paper that team doesn't beat Golden State, and LeBron is still in the east as well.

Is George going to both have to play LeBron on defense and drop 30 on offense?

Horford and Ibaka are nothing special as bigs. Niether one of them rebound partiularly well. They both have turned into mid range shooters.

Stars win championship in the NBA and they would still only have 1.

Not to mention all these guys not being able to fit under the cap.

20 Jul 2016 00:55:42
@SOB you have a point with the cap space, but to say that team can't win the finals is crazy. Not only do they have 3, possibly 4 if you count Hayward, all stars but they have great role players and defense comin off he bench. Bradley is one of the best on ball defenders in the league. Crowded has he size to match up with LeBron. Smart is a very good defender.

We must have different definitions of stars because I would consider George, Horford, Thomas, and Hayward stars. Not only is this team very talented, but it is full of unselfish, smart basketball players. They might not be able to beat GSW, but they can beat Cleveland and had a great shot at beating GSW.

20 Jul 2016 05:19:12
Just because a team overpays a guy (horford, even though I guess the market dictates the price) or someone is the best player on thier team (Hayward and thomas) doesn't mean that they are stars. Ibaka is a role pkayer as well.

When I say star I'm talking about maybe like 20 guys. Those are the Only guys that win championships. Atleast in the current NBA.

If there were no cap though then maybe a case could be made, but if that were the case then other teams would have 5 players that were just as good as well.

19 Jul 2016 12:16:38
If Hayward doesn't commit to retur to UTA before deadline

BOS/ UTA/ SAC

BOS get Gordon Hayward

Pg Thomas/ Rozier
Sg Hayward/ Hunter
Sf Crowder/ Brown
Pf Johnson/ Olynyk
Ce Horford/ Yabusele

UTA get Rudy Gay and Avery Bradley

Pg Hill/ Exum/ Neto
Sg Bradley/ Burks
Sf Gay/ Hood/ Ingles
Pf Favors/ Lyles
Ce Gobert/ Diaw/ Whitey

SAC get Marcus Smart and James Young

Pg Smart/ Collison
Sg Afflalo/ Temple/ Young
Sf Barnes/ McLemore
Pf Cousins/ Skal
Ce Wcs/ Koufos/ Papa.

19 Jul 2016 13:08:04
I think it's a no for Utah.

19 Jul 2016 13:20:46
Why would it be a no from Utah? Hayward is leaving after the season. Bradley and gay would be a nice return even if he wasnt.

19 Jul 2016 15:08:15
That's a good return if Hayward leaves, but i think he's going to stay.
I like Hayward, i think he's going to be an all star soon.

19 Jul 2016 15:39:58
I could be wrong but I thought Hayward has already said biblically he will test free agemcy. To me that means he's out.

19 Jul 2016 18:04:43
With IT I rather have Bradley then Hayward.

19 Jul 2016 09:44:45
PHX/ OKC/ BOS

PHX get OKC 1st 2017, BOS 2nd rd pick and Enes Kanter

OKC get Knight, Bradley, Jaylen Brown, BKN 1st 2018 and Amir Johnson

BOS get Westbrook and Chandler

BOS

Westbrook/ Rozier
Smart/ Hunter
Crowder/ Young
Horford/ Olynyk/ Mickey
Chandler/ Yabusele.

19 Jul 2016 12:31:20
Lol i forgot what happened to thomas my bad.

18 Jul 2016 15:24:44
rumors about knicks sixers trade discussions. I can see why both teams would consider it, just not sure how the fit is.

Knicks trade: O'Quinn, future 1st and maybe Courtney Lee

Sixers trade: Okafor

There are obvious reasons why the knicks would do this. Spacing wouldn't be an issue with Porzingis, plus Porzingis' rim protection would help make up for Okafor's lacking in that area. Okafor would also likely come off the bench and be able to develop more naturally.

The sixers would only do this because of the log jam at big man. My guess is they would get more attractive offers, but really, who knows. There hasn't been THAT much serious interest for Okafor thus far, so who knows.

18 Jul 2016 15:46:42
So you believe the "rumor" that's sportsrageous put out. Why would they trade a center for another center?

18 Jul 2016 15:50:46
Not a chance in hell you trade Okafor for garbage like that.

18 Jul 2016 16:47:32
A) I don't believe it will happen. Do I believe there may have been discussions internally or even perhaps between the teams? Sure. It was just a interesting posting that I decided to throw out there.

B) Not a chance in hell they trade okafor for an unprotected 1st round pick, for a team you have spent months, probably years, bashing, so clearly it would be a valuable 1st. I mean, what's the deal Tre. you call the knicks one of the worst teams. but then when the value of the return package is based on your estimation of how bad they are. no chance. the knicks are too good to have that be a valuable pick? Probably should pick a side and stick with it as opposed to just immediately hitting the angry bitter post button before thinking.

C) Calm down tre. We all know Okafor is the second coming of Kareem Abdul Jabar, mixed with Olajowon, and a dash of Jesus Christ. But even still, the sixers are moving a big man. they have diminished value because they are obviously moving one. Oquinn was a salary filler, the players of value were potentially lee and more importantly, an unprotected 1st from the team you talk a bunch of smack on, until it actually comes time to get their pick, then its garbage. It is way too early for you to be this salty. Seriously. do you just wake up bitter?

18 Jul 2016 16:51:31
The Knicks have nothing of interest for the Sixers. It would have to be a multiple team trade with Melo going somewhere else.

18 Jul 2016 17:23:33
Hamburger. The Knicks just signed half the average free agents in the league. So yes they are completely different now then a year ago when they were terrible. They still will struggle with chemistry with som many ball hogs on the same team but they will be around 35 to 40 wins and their " unprotected first is then mid first round. You don't trsde Okafor for lee and mid first and o Quinn. That's three most likely nobodies for a young center on a great contract who probably would be the Knicks best player in a year or two next to prozingus. So not a chance in hell is a pretty good description of that bs trade. i'd rather keep Oakfor as a bench piece then give him away for a bunch of junk.

18 Jul 2016 17:25:36
O and hamburger. I garrenttee you were more bitter then me in that post as it took three paragraph of you ranting about someone else being bitter.

18 Jul 2016 17:33:05
Maybe next year, when the sixers have to pay Noel and the Knicks pick go's high in the draft.

I like this for NY, but not a chance sixers do this now :-)

18 Jul 2016 17:34:10
Weird. didn't you just like 2 weeks ago claim Porzingis to be the most overrated player. That he hasn't done a thing, and until he rebounds more than 7 rebounds a game he's no where near Okafor and his legendary back to the basket game?

Its just odd. because now you say Porzingis will absolutely be better than him in the coming years. So hard to follow you. Just make bitter salty statements, no matter if they are consistant with prior statements.

Like what I say or not. at least I stay relatively consistent in my thoughts as to just changing them to disagree.

food for thought Mr. Salty.

18 Jul 2016 20:53:32
I didn't say absolutely. I said Oakfor is first or second best player on that team in a year or two. Prozingus even if he does the exact same season as last year is second best on the Knicks. Melo and prozingus as of now. But melo is getting old. Rose and Noah both old or injury prone. So yes prozingus will be the best player on a crappy team Ina year or two. That being said. If Oakfor went there prozingus will have to improve a lot to get anywhere close to Okafor In a Year or two. In other words Okafor would be the best player on that team unless prozingus, Who I already established is the best player on that crappy team ( in two years), Gets considerably better. Right now he's just an over hyped New York knick. I don't limit a guy like him in the future. But based on wat we've seen so far he's over rated. Damn you really need to hop off dude.

18 Jul 2016 20:56:36
No from both teams. Knicks are not moving Noah's $18M contract to the bench for Okafor, and Philly is not getting enough from this deal.

18 Jul 2016 21:45:35
Actually tre. if you actually read what you wrote. you said okafor will be the best player in a year or two NEXT TO porzingis. What that means is that he will be the second best player, because based off your sentence, porzingis would be the best.

So yes. Reading what you wrote. You said exactly that. Floppy McSalty Flop.

19 Jul 2016 18:50:45
Lol so you disagree with my trade saying I overvalue sixes players, but yet here you are proposing a trade sending Okafor to the Knicks for Courtney Lee and Kyle oquinn?!?!?! You are way over valuing those guys, Okafor is going to be a STUD, the only reason he's on the block is because of the bad fit on his current team and the plethora of bugs they currently have, Okafor would bring back the best return. Also the Knicks JUST signed Courtney Lee. Why in the hell would they trade him b4 he's played a game, I mean when has that EVER happened? That'll also put the Knicks in a bind bcuz there are no more worthy starting 2 guards left In free agency. This proposal in beyond retarded.

 
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