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26 Apr 2017 22:14:15
Knicks-Thunder-Blazers

Knicks get Allen Crabbe, Al-Farouq Aminu, Doug McDermott, Kyle Singler, and #21 pick (via Thunder)

Thunder get Carmelo Anthony, Kyle O'Quinn, and #26 pick (via Blazers)

Blazers get Enes Kanter, Courtney Lee, and #58 pick (via Knicks)

26 Apr 2017 23:00:15
Pass from Portland. I'd rather pay crabbe than kanter, at least crabbe isn't the worst defender in the NBA. Also, kanter and Nurkic wouldn't work together.

Lee and Aminu is probably a push, though I'd take the defensive guy in Aminu.

26 Apr 2017 16:02:54
Lee Noah and a 2nd

for

Rubio and Aldrich

Knicks draft Monk
Twolves draft Isaac

Rubio
Monk
Melo
Porzingis
Hernangomez

Dunn
Lee (Lavine)
Wiggins
Isaac
Towns

26 Apr 2017 16:15:09
Minnesota isn't giving up Rubio and taking on Noahs contract. I don't think the Timberwolves would give up Rubio for that even if you took out Noah.

26 Apr 2017 17:22:24
Knicks had their chance to grab Rubio at the deadline and lost him because Jackson got greedy. With the way he played after the deadline, and the fact that Dunn may not be ready yet, Rubio only gets moved if it's a really good offer, and this isn't one.

26 Apr 2017 15:16:33
Celtics get Krstaps Porzingus

Knicks get Celtics 2017 pick, Marcus Smart, and Jaylen Brown

26 Apr 2017 16:17:23
I don't see why the Knicks would do this. It would probably take a king's ransom to get Porzingis from them.

26 Apr 2017 16:28:24
17 Nets pick, 17 second rd. pick and Smart for the Zinger and Lee.

26 Apr 2017 20:12:27
The nets picks only starts discussions.

26 Apr 2017 23:10:42
Well the lick is obviously the Nets pick. that's the only pick that Boston has in the 1st round.

26 Apr 2017 12:23:37
NYK and ORL

NYK get Payton and Biyombo

ORL get Noah and NYK 2017 1st rounder

Knicks get rid of Noah's contract they take on Biyombo's but Biyombo is less injury prone and will help take pressure of Porzingis on the defensive end. Payton gives them a young pg who can get the ball to the stars and drive the open lanes.

Magic get Noah's bad contract but they have time to kill as they search for a star and adding another pick gives them a better chance of that.

26 Apr 2017 13:23:44
As much as getting rid of Noah's contract would be fantastic, I don't think that Biyombo's contract and an underachieving Peyton is worth giving up the number 7 pick.

Biyombo has a similar contract to Noah's, and will never live up to it.

26 Apr 2017 13:57:09
Exactly. This would be a worthwhile deal if it was a mid-late 1st rounder, but 7 is way too high just to unload Noah for that return. I could see that kind of a package being moved for a better player on a terrible team like Lopez though.

26 Apr 2017 20:46:25
HAHAH rather homer trade nothing but net. Biyombo has the exact same contract. But instead of being a great defender/ rebounder like noah when noah is ever actually healthy, biyombo is a below average center. awful.

26 Apr 2017 04:24:35
OKC get Melo Noah Clip. & Griz 2019
Knicks get Oladipo Crowder
Celtics get Kanter

Everyone happy

26 Apr 2017 04:54:35
New York getting too much.

26 Apr 2017 05:24:43
All around bad trade.

26 Apr 2017 06:27:48
I think Melo would be a good fit in OKC, filling hole that persists from Durant leaving. However, don't think they'd be interested in giving up Oladipo for him. Celtics certainly wouldn't give up Crowder for Kanter; Kanter is not only a worse player but his contract is much worse and would put them out of the running to try and sign Hayward in offseason and other potential moves to get a star.

26 Apr 2017 14:13:56
Exactly Jaw. It's not a bad get for OKC, it's a great move for NY, but it's a terrible trade for the Celtics.

26 Apr 2017 16:25:01
Take Crowder out of the deal and Boston might take a flyer on Kanter as a lower-rotation big.

26 Apr 2017 17:45:31
Boston gets screwed in that deal. Lmao.

26 Apr 2017 03:09:47
Heat get Porzingis Noah Hernangomez Thomas
Knicks get Whiteside McRoberts Ellington

Knicks sign CP3 and Milsap max deal
McGee for MLE

Both teams top 4 seed.

CP3/Monk-7th/Randle
Lee/Hart-44/Bluiett-58
Melo/Kuzminskas/Early
Milsap/O'Quinn/Ingis
Whiteside/McGee/Plumlee

Dragic Noah for Lopez Rondo-release

Lowry/Johnson/Ntilikina-14th
Waiters/Richardson/McCruder
Winslow/Thomas/Babbitt
Porzingis/Johnson/White
Lopez/Hernangomez/Reed

26 Apr 2017 14:24:51
This actually seems like the kind of trade I can see Jackson making. I don't think he's there for the long haul, so he might be willing to sacrifice the Knicks future on a get rich quick scheme.

25 Apr 2017 18:24:33
Suns get - Winslow and Knicks 1st
Knicks get - Whiteside
Heat get - Suns 1st, Noah, and Hernangomez

Heat trade Dragic for Teletovic and their 1st

Suns draft - Smith
Heat draft - Ball, Giles and Anunoby

Bledsoe
Booker
Winslow
Chriss
Len

FA (Mills or Hill)
Lee
Melo
Zingis
Whiteside

Ball
Waiters
Richardson
Johnson
Hernangomes

25 Apr 2017 18:36:01
Suns NEVER do this!

25 Apr 2017 19:07:44
The only one who says yes is the Knicks.

26 Apr 2017 08:47:42
Garbage trade for Suns!

25 Apr 2017 18:15:38
Portland - Indiana - Boston - Philadelphia

Portland trades: CJ McCollum, Meyers Leonard, 2017 Memphis Pick
Portland Receives: 2017 Brooklyn 1st, Jahlil Okafor, Gerald Henderson (waive), tyler Zeller (waive)
Beyond trade: Waive Ezeli, draft Markelle Fultz, draft Jordan Bell, trade Cleveland pick for more salary cap relief

Indiana Trades: Paul George, 2017 own pick
Indiana receives: CJ McCollum, Philadelphia 2017 pick
Beyond Trade: Draft josh Jackson or jayson Tatum

Boston Trades: Avery Bradley, Tyler Zeller, Demetrius Jackson, 2017 Brooklyn 1st
Boston Receives: Paul George

Philadelphia Trades: Jahlil Okafor, Gerald Henderson, 2017 own 1st
Philadelphia Receives: Avery Bradley, Demetrius Jackson, 2017 Ind 1st, 2017 Mem pick
Beyond Trade: Draft more prospects and continue the Process

Post Draft Depth Charts
Portland
Lillard, turner, Napier
Fultz, Crabbe
Harkless, Aminu
Vonleh, Davis, Bell
Nurkic, Okafor

Indiana
Teague, Ellis
McCollum, Robinson lll
Jackson/Tatum, Miles
Young, Allen
Turner, Jefferson, seraphim

Boston
Thomas, Rozier
George, Smart
Crowder, Brown
FA signing, another FA signing
Horford, olynyk

Philadelphia
Simmons, Bayless, McConnell
Bradley, Luwawu Cabarrot, Stauskas
Covington, Anderson
Saric, Holmes
Embiid, Leonard

Why each team makes these moves?
Portland cuts nearly $30 million from their payroll and get the number 1 overall pick who played at a nearby college. Lillard and Fultz could be the most lethal backcourt in the NBA. They both can score at will and can create for their teammates. Portland also get a local in Jordan bell whose defensive capabilities can make up for nurkic and okafor's defensive woes.

Indiana makes a quick rebuild. McCollum and a top 5 pick is about as good of a return for George they could ask for. They remain a playoff caliber team.

Boston gets the superstar they've been trying for and they get rid of Bradley before they have to face the dilemma of resigning him for a lot of money or letting him go for nothing.

Philadelphia gets an excellent two way SG in Bradley who pairs well with Simmons. They get rid of Okafor, who they have no room for anymore with their plethora of quality big men. They do give up a high pick but they get two middle of the pack 1st round draft picks in which they can stockpile even more talent. And who knows they might still get a top 5 pick if the lakers pick falls to them.

25 Apr 2017 20:10:03
No Paul George trade makes sense unless the acquiring team has an assurance that he will sign long-term. In this instance, Boston is not going to trade a starter and the potential No. 1 pick if there is even a chance that George bolts to the Lakers after next season.

26 Apr 2017 00:30:45
If Boston does that need a future 1st rd. coming back to them, not just George. Supercollider is right that's a bit much for a rental. And whoever disagreed is only doing it for obvious reasons, that's just how this blog rolls.

25 Apr 2017 15:44:01
Boston: B Lopez+ Porzingis

Nets: J Noah+ 1rnd pick Knicks 17

Knicks: 1rnd pick Nets 17 and 18


Boston receive a young superstar and a descent center

The Nets get a good pick

NY can rebuilt around Fullz

25 Apr 2017 16:25:55
Boston won't do that. They need rebounding center and Lopez isn't one.

25 Apr 2017 16:37:40
Don't see why Boston would make a move for two starting caliber big men when they have Horford.

25 Apr 2017 16:57:37
Porzingis and Horford would be a beastly duo.

25 Apr 2017 17:22:15
Same problem when you posted this before, who doesn't start out of Horford, Lopez and Porzingis?

25 Apr 2017 17:32:28
Not sure why Nets are in this. Don't think they get a top 10 lotto pick for taking Noah's contract and Lopez who is an expiring contract. Lopez one of the worst rebounding centers in the league (rebounding is Celtics biggest issue) and if they are getting Porzingis too he'd be a bad fit with Celtics.

25 Apr 2017 06:04:56
LAL/NYK

LAL get Carmelo Anthony

NYK get Luol Deng & Jordan Clarkson + HOU 1st round pick

LAL/IND

LAL get Paul George & Monta Ellis

IND get Brandon Ingram , Tim Mozgov & 3rd overall pick

LAL sign Thabo Sefolosha

Pg Russell/Ennis
Sg George/Ellis
Sf Anthony/Sefolosha/Brewer
Pf Randle/Nance Jr
Ce Black/Zubac

25 Apr 2017 09:03:11
Not a fan of that end result; Pacers could trade for Melo and have arguably better team with Turner and if they resign Teague.

Melo would be a low asset acquisition that could help Lakers and I think value is about right there (maybe they can get away with not including Houston pick) . However, main issue is Melo's contract which would be quite prohibitive in adding additional talent (wouldn't be that bad if Melo declined 18-19 player option but doubt he does) .

The offer for George I don't think Pacers could pass up. Potential of Turner, Ingram and Ball would be a promising trio. Even if they get Jackson instead of Ball it would still be dynamic trio and if they kept Teague they wouldn't be bad in a few years. Its probably a bit too much for Lakers to give up both Ingram and 3rd overall in a trade for George (especially considering they could potentially get him for free if they wait for him to be a FA) . I think a more realistic offer would be 1 of Russell, Ingram and 3rd overall paired with either Randle or Nance (not sure if they'd be able to dump Mozgov's contract too) .

25 Apr 2017 10:05:46
Knicks could get a higher first for melo so this needs to be sweetened especially as they are getting Dengs bad contract when they already have Noah's.

Pacers would need more picks or another young asset as their taking mozgov who an awful contract.

25 Apr 2017 10:57:11
I love the 3rd pick plus Ingram trade for Indy.

25 Apr 2017 14:31:25
People keep forgetting the knicks would need incentive to move melo. As in, it would have to better the team. They are a couple years away from possibly contending, so it would be better to just hold onto melo, as he would probably opt out after this year if its that bad, instead of picking up a longer bad contract like deng.

They are in no rush. Simple as that. This deal sucks.

25 Apr 2017 01:58:07
DET/NYK

DET get Carmelo Anthony , Kyle Oquinn & 2020 1st round pick

sign Patty Mills

Pg Mills/Smith
Sg KCP/Bullock/draft
Sf Anthony/Morris
Pf Harris/Leuer
Ce Drummond/Baynes/Oquinn


NYK get Stanley Johnson , Boban Marjanovic & Reggie Jackson

draft Malik Monk

Pg Jackson/Baker
Sg Lee/Monk/Holiday
Sf Johnson/Thomas
Pf Porzingis/Hernangomez
Ce Noah/Marjanovic

25 Apr 2017 02:55:03
I don't see the Knicks being willing to part with what most likely will be a fairly high pick.

25 Apr 2017 04:24:09
Melo is best player in trade, in city he would not want to go to. yet ny giving up future 1st. Good luck with that thought.

25 Apr 2017 04:44:15
What about Tobias Harris instead of Stanley then change the 1st to 2 2nds?

25 Apr 2017 05:36:47
Maybe Harris for Reggie Jackson (I think it would be over be overpaying for Melo) . I just don't see where Jackson would really fit into the Knicks future. It would work better as a 3 way trade with the third team needing a veteran pg.

25 Apr 2017 16:46:04
Melo to the Pistons about 15 years to late.

24 Apr 2017 16:37:10
3 team trade to make PG13 stay

Ind - Melo
Knicks - Thad, Ennis, and Wright
Mem - Ellis

Knicks draft Smith
Pacers draft Bacon

Teague - Young
Stephenson - Bacon
PG - Miles
Melo - Robinson
Turner - Jefferson

24 Apr 2017 20:50:54
Ellis Young Jefferson
For
Melo Noah

As good as it gets.

24 Apr 2017 21:01:07
I think Melo and PG13 together would go badly.

24 Apr 2017 23:28:29
Don't think Melo would want to go to Indy nor do I think he'd be enough to keep George in Indy.

25 Apr 2017 15:29:36
I'm not sure how PG13 and Melo would mesh, but Turner has the right skill set to play with him. Melo at the 4 needs a strong defensive and rebounding presence playing alongside him.

23 Apr 2017 17:17:08
draft day trade
heat : carmelo, bledsoe
knicks, dragic, chandler
suns : d rose, mcroberts (waive), heats #14 pick

23 Apr 2017 18:36:35
Suns don't want Rose.

23 Apr 2017 18:43:36
NO! from Suns. We don`t need Rose, we need young players. For Bledsoe and Chandler we con get a top 7 pick from Knicks or Orlando, not witch Chandler but maybe witch Warren or Bender.

23 Apr 2017 19:23:10
No way Knicks or Magic would do that deal.

23 Apr 2017 19:31:52
Leave D rose out of it (he is a FA and can't be traded on draft day anyway) and I like it more. Heat probably still giving up a little too much tho (I don't think Bledsoe is better than dragic and don't see a big enough market for Melo to justify giving up a lotto pick for him.

24 Apr 2017 13:33:24
Niko, no matter how many variations of this trade you try, it's not working.

23 Apr 2017 16:01:46
Knicks Offseason


Trades


Trade #1

Celtics get Melo

Knicks get Jae Crowder and 2019 Clippers 1st Round Pick


Trade #2

Lakers get #7 Overall Pick, both 2017 2nd Round Draft Picks, and the Clippers 2019 1st Round Draft Pick

Knicks get #3 Overall Pick


Trade #3

Kings get Joakim Noah and Lance Thomas

Knicks get a Future 2nd Round Draft Pick


Trade #4

76ers get Courtney Lee

Knicks get Jahlil Okafor


Draft

#3- Lonzo Ball


Free Agency

Resign Justin Holiday for 3 years and $21 million

Resign Ron Baker for 1 year and $1 million

Resign Maurice N'Dour for 1 year and $1 million


Roster

Starting Lineup

PG Ball
SG Holiday
SF Crowder
PF Porzingis
C Okafor

Bench

PG Randle
SG Baker
SF Kuzminskas
PF O'Quinn
C Hernangomez
PF N'Dour
C Plumlee

23 Apr 2017 16:07:03
There's no way they get rid of Noah without giving up a 1st and I doubt the Lakers would be willing to move down in the draft for that.

23 Apr 2017 16:16:19
Poor Kings get shafted.

23 Apr 2017 19:49:36
Celtics are not in the business of solving NY's Carmelo Anthony problem. Right now the Knicks could only get an overpaaid low-rotation player for Anthony. Definitely not a starter, and most definitely not a starter PLUS a No. 1 draft pick.

24 Apr 2017 00:16:25
With the exception of Okafor trade all those trades are pretty lopsided and don't see other teams doing it. Especially the Noah trade. Zero chance they get rid of that contract and get assets back. They'd have to give up more than a 2nd rounder to get rid of him.

24 Apr 2017 13:39:37
Supercollider, you're C's are struggling with the Bulls why? Could it be they need another scorer? Melo is a better offensive player than Crowder, and while you'll argue that he's not as good defensively, which I agree with you, Boston doesn't need another wing defender, they need a scorer. Boston does this if they can do two 2nd vs. a 1st.

As for the other deals, the Kings and Lakers hang up the phone laughing.

24 Apr 2017 14:49:19
The Celtics would think about it, which upsets me. Now that they've gotten back on track against the Bulls, maybe the Melo craziness will go out the window. I know he's still a good scorer, but I just don't want him. There's other ways to go about bringing in a scorer that doesn't come with his baggage. It's better than the Kings trade idea though. Why in the world would they want to bring in Noah? They just settled a logjam at C and shed salary. Why would they add to both again?

24 Apr 2017 17:38:55
soxfan -- The Anthony-to-Boston talk was generated by the New York Post and was likely written so a writer can get access to Jackson. Ainge would never take Anthony, let alone give up anything of value for him. DA has much bigger fish to fry. Not opposed to Crowder being dealt, just hate the thought of Anthony screwing things up. If anyone is willing to take on Anthony, that team could get him for a late first or two seconds.

24 Apr 2017 18:44:54
Super-I'm not sure. There's definitely going to be factions on any team that would think about bringing in Melo. I just don't like his fit for Boston. I think he'd actually be a great fit on a lot of teams though, and depending on who they're dealing with, they might be able to get a relatively high pick.

24 Apr 2017 20:56:50
So it official, Supercollider finally signs off on Melo. I'm glad you finally see the light.

23 Apr 2017 14:27:25
Memphis gets Anthony

The Knicks get Parons, an unprotected 2021 1st, and 2 2nd round picks.

23 Apr 2017 15:14:30
Dont think anyone is trading future unprotected #1's for melo.

23 Apr 2017 15:25:34
Anthony won't agree to go to Memphis, and as bad as Melo's contract is right now, Parsons is worse.

23 Apr 2017 15:45:08
Agree that Melo probably wouldn't waive his no trade clause, but I think he would fit well with Memphis. They are a good defensive team that needs more scoring and shooting.

The picks are just as much for the Knicks taking on Parson's contract as they are for Melo.

24 Apr 2017 13:44:34
I like this trade
c Anthony would be a great fit in Memphis
And that pick would be valuable in the future for the Knicks.

24 Apr 2017 15:00:13
The sad thing is that Melo would actually be a great fit on quite a few teams, but they're all places he's likely to say no to. I really like the fit in both Minny and Denver, and they have the space to bring in that contract. especially the Wolves. At this point, you need to bring him in as a PF on a team that has a solid C both on the boards and defensively. I keep hearing the Celtics, which blows my mind. That's one of the last places he should be looking. His skill set is maybe the third or fourth thing they need, and it's not what they need at the position he should be playing at this point.

23 Apr 2017 08:47:05
Melo trade

Portland - New York

New York
Melo and Plumee

Portland
Crabbe and Leonard

Salaries matchup on the ESPN trade machine would be a smart trade for both teams.

23 Apr 2017 11:07:54
If the Knicks could talk the Blazers into that deal, they would cancel next year's voting, make Phil Jackson the executive of the year and name the award after him.

23 Apr 2017 14:11:05
I like it for Portland. It's low risk and at worst they end up with an expiring contract. I don't think Melo would be a great fit, but they really aren't making much of a commitment.

It's not great for New York, but they end up with 2 young players that can help in a rebuild.

23 Apr 2017 15:48:59
That sounds about right coming from supercollider. Let me guess. You think crabbe does more than melo. Not based off reality, but based on your unknown source of irrational hate for him. So sad.

24 Apr 2017 13:46:58
I like this trade, but Portland should also give a protected first round pick.

24 Apr 2017 15:03:13
I actually like this one. It makes Portland a little more balanced instead of essentially a backcourt team, and it brings back something of value to the Knicks. Crabbe isn't amazing, but he's a good player, and that's pretty much what you have to hope for if you're the Knicks.

26 Apr 2017 01:10:48
Knicks and up with 1 solid young player. Meyers Leonard is not a contributor.

23 Apr 2017 04:11:09
Heat get Melo Noah Thomas
Knicks get Bosh McRoberts Ellington 16th

all 3 released/Voided

Heat keep all main rotation players

Dragic/Johnson/N.Cole
Waiters/Richardson/McCruder
Winslow/Thomas/Babbitt
Melo/Johnson/White
Whiteside/Noah/Reed

The trade open up ny cap space to sign the quality of any trio FAs at PG SF PF
1st Tier
Curry/CP3 Durant Griffin 4yr 120mil
2nd Tier
Lowry Hayward Milsap 4yr 100mil
3rd Tier
Mills/Hill/Teague/Holiday Gallo/Porter/Gay Ibaka 4yr 80mil

You can fill any body in those group and NY will be a playoff team with cap space to sign 3 1st Tier Free agents. This should calm down Porzingis and his future with ny if they trade Melo.

Tier/Monk-5/Randle
Lee/Thornwell-16th/Bluiett-58
Tier/Kuzminskas/Early
Tier/O'Quinn/Inglis
Porzingis/Hernangomez/Plumlee

23 Apr 2017 06:44:28
Melo wouldn't be a bad fit for the Heat but not sure they'd give 16th pick for him straight up let alone take back Noah's contract too. I believe Bosh is eligible for a medical retirement so Heat should be able to get him off their books (don't think this can be done if he is traded no point in putting him in the trade) .

Free agents is a good route to potentially go for Knicks but I don't view any top guys going there. Instead of committing big bucks to tier 3 guys I think they'd be better off drafting Fox or Smith tanking for another year to get another top pick then next season make a run at big names like Westbrook, George and Cousins who will all be FA in 2018.

23 Apr 2017 06:46:35
If Bosh is traded, I'm unsure if his salary can come off of New York's books or cap.

23 Apr 2017 21:49:40
I don't trust smith knee. Because the Knicks failed at tanking also don't know if Fox will be around.

22 Apr 2017 23:18:49
Knicks/ Cavs/ Blazers:

To CLE - Melo, O'Quinn

To POR - Love

To NYK - Turner, Harkless, Frye.

22 Apr 2017 23:50:24
Horrible for the Cavs. They wouldn't do Love for O'Quinn and Melo straight up let alone adding a rotation player. Also, how does Portland end up getting love and getting out of Turner's bad contract?

23 Apr 2017 02:34:20
It's not whether Love is better than both Melo (which he's not) and O'Quinn or not. If the Cavs don't win it again this year, and in fact lose badly, LeBron the GM is going to insist on change. He'll want a buddy or buddies, and Melo is the one that is available currently. Love is the one of the big three to go if/ when LBJ puts his foot down. Don't kid yourself, Love would have been gone last offseason if the Cavs had not have made the comeback, and it most likely would have been for Melo.

I agree that the Blazers are getting rid of a bad contract in Turner, but it's only bad based on the fit. In New York, he could go back to a similar role that he had in Boston, a facilitator, which suits him best. He hasn't worked in Portland because he plays with two ball dominant guards. It would be reasonable to expect him to put up a 12, 5 and 5 stat line with the Knicks, and the five dimes a game would be more than any other Knick put up this year.

23 Apr 2017 05:19:39
If Lebron was concerned with hanging out with his friends, he'd still be in Miami. Love is hands down better than Melo. Love is a better rebounder, better passer, a more efficient scorer ( he average 19 on 14.5 shots a game compared to 22 on 19 shots for Melo this year), better defensively, and younger. Melo's weakness match the Cavs weakeness. Love isn't getting moved in a trade where Melo is the main piece. Losing Love and Frye would take away any players who can play center for long periods and shoot. This trade makes 0 sense for the Cavs. That doesn't even take into account that the Cavs would be over paying by a lot for Melo and Turner and Harkless for Love would be the steal for Portland. That's two borderline starters including a guy being over payed by 8 million dollars for an allstar.

23 Apr 2017 16:03:29
Actually, again rkenne. posting but not really making sense.

You want to break down efficient scoring simply on shots vs pts? Ok? First, Melo has always, including this year, shot at a higher FG% than love. Secondly, Love is the 3rd option, who hangs at the 3pt line. that's what he does. A tad bit easier to score that way than the 1st option who is constantly doubled. But I guess you didn't take that into account.

Love is a better passer? Seriously? Dude averages for his career 2 assists a game. Under 2 assists this year per game. Better passer? Guy doesn't pass. He gets the ball and just puts up a jump shot. that's his offensive game.

Better defensively? 6'10 and gets less than half a block a game. Seriously? No one is saying melo is good defensively. But where the heck to you come up with an argument that Love is any less bad?

Kevin love is a better rebounder. he's a 3rd option jump shooter on a loaded team. He has a far less diverse offensive game. Equally bad defensively. A worse passer. I fully believe he is great for his role, but to try and make the argument that love is so clearly better is foolish.

Oh. and melo plays more of the season by about 5-6 games a year. So clearly that youth thing matters.

Get off it. you and supercollider are on some baseless melo hate trip. Dude ain't a top 5. But to consider him worthless, or actually as you two make it seem, negative worth, is moronic. He will be traded, and he will pull in decent but not amazing. My guess. 3 options

1) sign and trade with the clippers for griffin.
2) trade with cavs for love
3) celtics trade centered around crowder.

All depends on the playoffs, but just stop it. your constant hate is making you both look moronic.

23 Apr 2017 19:35:52
Hamburger look up any defensive metric and you'll see that Love is far ahead of Melo. Melo has his hands on the ball far more often than Love and handles the ball more. Of course he averages more assists that doesn't mean he's a better passer, it means he has more opportunities to pass. The Cavs don't need a third guy who is most effective with the ball in his hands. Crowder may be possible (even though Ainge apparently said he didn't want Melo taking up all of their cap room), but they're not getting Love and why would Griffin opt in to be traded to the hapless Knicks when he can pick where he wants to go. That's the most delusional thing I've ever heard.

22 Apr 2017 14:45:21
NYK - LAL - PHX

NYK get: Brandon Knight and Tyson Chandler

LAL get: Carmelo Anthony

PHX get: LAL 1st Rd DP and Joakim Noah

22 Apr 2017 15:29:57
Lakers are not giving up their first for Melo.

24 Apr 2017 16:32:35
It's an interesting framework, but the Lakers are not giving up their top pick for Melo. They aren't close enough to contention, especially in the West, and they need as many building blocks as possible. They're easy to swap out in this trade though, as I think the Knicks and Suns would probably go for it. If the Lakers lose their pick to Philly, I could definitely see them moving one of their picks for him. They're also probably one of the only teams that would move a pick that high. They're in a position where they have a ton of building blocks, and could use a go to veteran/ high volume scorer. Depending on how the balls fall, they could wind up with Jackson/ Melo while the Suns pull down Ball and Tatum. That would seem to be a win for everyone, and the 76ers would actually be a borderline playoff team.

22 Apr 2017 00:04:46
Heat - Knicks

Heat get Carmelo Anthony

Knicks get Justice Winslow and Wayne Ellington.

22 Apr 2017 00:44:25
riley is not trading winslow.

22 Apr 2017 01:26:06
I like fit of Melo with the Heat alongside Dragic and Whiteside especially when their alternative is to go pay Rudy Gay absurd money. Don't think Miami would be willing to or have to give up Winslow to get Anthony tho. The fact that Knicks aren't taking back any big salaries is a significant asset in itself.

22 Apr 2017 06:05:08
What if New York adds a 2nd rd pick to Miami then?

22 Apr 2017 12:57:46
The Heat really don't have a big salary, low production guy, so it's hard for them to salary dump.

Why not Knicks agree to flip firsts, and add one of Kuz or O'Quinn, and the Heat add Tyler Johnson.

22 Apr 2017 13:59:35
knicks aren't adding picks in that trade.

22 Apr 2017 14:34:51
At this point Jackson would probably allow Riley to pick anyone off the Heat roster for Anthony.
Miami, however, is probably one of few the places that Anthony would agree to go to.

23 Apr 2017 03:29:04
Oh really supercollider? Even with reports multiple teams want him. But nooooooo the Knicks go to the heat and say you pick what you want to give. Because that's smart. As usual.

 
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