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02 Dec 2016 17:58:39
New York Knicks

Two trades to sort out the two areas that need sorting which are starting centre and bench scoring

Trade 1
Knicks recieve Nerlens Noel

Timberevolves recieve Joakim Noah and couple of 2nd round draft picks

76ers recieve Ricky Rubio

Trade 2
Knicks recieve Rudy Gay

Kings recieve Kyle O'Quinn and Lance Thomas

Release Sasha Vujacic

Sign Chasson Randle and Cleathony Early

Roster
Pg Rose/ Jennings/ Randle
Sg Lee/ Holiday/ Baker
Sf Anthony/ Gay/ Early
Pf Porzingis/ Kuzminskas/ Ndour
C Noel/ Hernangomez/ Plumlee.

02 Dec 2016 18:57:59
Why would Minnesota want Noah? They are already deep in the frontcourt, they don't need one who is overpaid and a shadow of himself.

02 Dec 2016 22:04:08
Two reasons Philly won't trade for a PG right now: 1) there are several good ones available in the 2017 draft, 2) they have said they are going to play Simmons at the point, full-time, when he comes back. He may or may not stay there, but they won't be trading for a PG in the near future.

02 Dec 2016 14:37:28
Thunder get Carmelo Anthony

Knicks get Steven Adams, Cameron Payne, Andre Roberson, Alex Abrines, and 2017 1st


Pf. D. Sabonis/ J. Grant/ N. Collison
Sf. C. Anthony/ K. Singler/ J. Huestis
C. E. Kanter/ J. Leveargne/ D. Johnson
Sg. V. Oladipo/ A. Morrow/ D. Hamilton
Pg. R. Westbrook/ N. Cole (sign) / Christon.

02 Dec 2016 16:00:26
Only way I see melo leaving is to play with LeBron, CP3, or D Wade.

02 Dec 2016 16:53:19
same trade package offered in every trade. awesome.

heres a hint. trading 4 players for 1 never works because guess what. you have to cut 3 players.

Also, perhaps you can come up with a new trade package. One that actually works for the team you trade with. I know its a crazy thought, but just throwing it out there.

Oh. and the knicks say no chance. Just like every team you have offered that trade to.

02 Dec 2016 20:26:53
Eh looking at that current knicks roster they should cut about half of it.

02 Dec 2016 09:59:35
Washington: IT + Olynyk + Amir Johnson + Zeller + Memphis and Clippers picks

Boston: Wall + Gortat.

02 Dec 2016 13:01:24
The Memphis and clippers picks are both protected.
So Washington can get a better offer.

02 Dec 2016 15:02:01
You're not far off, but I definitely think a nets pick would have to be included instead of the clippers pick, and Zeller would have to be replaced with a more valuable player (Bradley, Crowder, or Brown) .

01 Dec 2016 00:45:27
MIN - NYK - LAL

MIN get: Kristaps Prozingis and Jordan Clarkson

Pg. Dunn
Sg. Clarkson
Sf. Muhammed
Pf. Porzingis
C. Towns

NYK get: Andrew Wiggins, Julius Randle, Luol Deng, Nikola Pekovic, and Jose Calderon (exp)

Pg. Rose
Sg. Lee
Sf. Wiggins
Pf. Randle
C. Noah
6th. Deng

LAL get: Ricky Rubio and Carmelo Anthony

Pg. Rubio
Sg. Russell
Sf. Ingram
Pf. Anthony
C. Mozgov.

01 Dec 2016 01:59:07
Minnesota would need more. and Lakers ain't getting Melo and Rubio for Randle, Clarkson, and 2 old players.

01 Dec 2016 02:30:46
No way Minnesota does this.

01 Dec 2016 04:27:21
Minnesota are clear winners
Wiggins=Porzingis
Clarkson is probably slightly > Rubio value wise
And then they dump Pekovic and his contract.

01 Dec 2016 05:58:56
They need to upgrade the power forward position but Minnesota would be really missing Wiggins. I'd rather have Wiggins than Porzingis if I'm Minnesota.

01 Dec 2016 08:44:54
I like the combo Porzingis-KAT

NY could do this trade.

Not sure why LA would trade for an aging star.

01 Dec 2016 09:01:47
Porzingis Towns combo up front would be very unique and will be problems for opposing teams but i agree Wolves going to miss Wiggins in there.

01 Dec 2016 15:08:10
There is no reason for the knicks or the wolves to trade wiggins and porzingis. Both look primed to be top 5, at worst top 10, players for years to come. Absolutely no reason to trade players that the franchises and their fan base are in love with. Just ain't happening.

01 Dec 2016 16:56:10
Porzingis is a special talent, but Wiggins is Mamba like.

01 Dec 2016 18:44:27
based off what knickerbocker? Wiggins had an incredibly hot start, but is actually relatively close to his career numbers. Only differences is a slight bump in scored, decline in fg% and a decline in defensive production. I think wiggins at this point is a future top 10 talent in the league, but its a wee bit early to annoint him kobe bryant. Mind you. the t-wolves are third worst team in the league and wiggins isn't the best player on his own team. The better player has 1 less year of experience taboot.

Neither team makes this deal. And for being in his second year, I would contend that Porzingis has made a far greater leap than wiggins did. and he is the best player on his team and not even the primary shooter on his team.

Both have potential to be a future MVP, but I think because of Porzingis physical makeup as a legit stretch 4/ 5, and his ability to truly effect the d down low. i'm sticking with him.

30 Nov 2016 21:11:13
Bos/ Ind
Trade
Bos- P. George
Ind- J. Crowder, A. Jonhson, K. Olynyk
+1pick17-Gws+2pick17-Bos+1pick18-Nets+pick19-Bos.

30 Nov 2016 22:24:21
Not even close.
Boston is not gutting its team for anyone.

30 Nov 2016 22:35:24
Thomas/ Bradley/ Brown/ George
/ Horford? That's not really "gutting itself team"

30 Nov 2016 23:31:20
I Like P George going to Boston but i would rather have J Brown than Crowder. I really like Crowder, but let's take the young guy if we go in rebuilt mode.

29 Nov 2016 19:19:05
Boston-Washington-Nets-Sacramento

boston
receive: J Wall+ D Cousins
trade: A Johnson+ Smart+J Brown I Thomas+ 1rnd pick Nets 17 and 18

Washington
receive: B Lopez+ I Thomas
trade: J Wall+ M Gortat

Sac:
receive: M Smart+ J Brown+ 1rnd pick Nets 17
trade: D Cousins

Nets
receive: A Johnson+ M Gortat+ 1rnd pick Nets 18
trade: B Lopez


Washington:
C: B Lopez
PF: Morris
SF: Porter
SG: Beal
PG: Thomas
sixth: Oubre
=> still stuck in the middle, but they have to do something, Maybe Thomas can carry the team

Boston
C: Cousins/ Olynyk
PF: Horford/ Jerebko
SF: Crowder/ Green
SG: Bradley/ Young
PG: J Wall/ Rozier
=> This team can challenge Cleveland and GS

Sac:
C: WC Stein
PF: Labisierre
SF: J Brown
SG: Affalo
PG: Smart
=> draft: Jackson in the 17 draft

Nets:
C: M Gortat
PF:A Johnson
SF: Hollins- Jefferson
SG: Bogdanovic
PG: Lin
=> start rebuilding in 2018.

30 Nov 2016 15:34:25
Too many big names changing teams for it to happen.

28 Nov 2016 21:04:21
Ny get Gay R Koufos Pekovic-ins
Kings get Melo Rubio Vujacic
Wolves get Noah Thomas Baker Kings 1st
Knicks get Gay Afflalo Koufos Richardson Pekovic-ins

Rose/ Jennings/ Randle
Afflalo/ Lee/ Holiday
Gay/ Kuzminskas/ Richardson
Porzingis/ O'Quinn/ Ndour
Koufos/ Hernangomez/ Plumlee

Rubio/ Collison/ Lawson
McLemore/ Temple/ Vujacic
Melo/ Barnes/ Casspi
Stein/ Tolliver/ Labissiere
Cousins/ Kaman-fa/ Papagiannis

Dunn/ Jones/ Lucas
Lavine/ Muhammed/ Baker
Wiggens/ Thomas/ Rush
Towns/ Hill/ Payne
Noah/ Dieng/ Cole.

28 Nov 2016 22:01:21
Why should the Knicks do this?

29 Nov 2016 00:09:58
Two way players
Depth
Cap Flexibility to resign or fa

Koufos is post player capable of defending reasonable contract. We don't want 8 figure player to take time away from potenial Hernangomez and Porzingis future great tandem.

Richardson Lee Afflalo Gay Holiday Kuzminskas are great wing depth

Lets see how rose and jennings do. But we have flexibility to sign which solid pg duo we like.

Few picks to fill in or trade for better flexibility.

Move Porzingis.

29 Nov 2016 04:52:24
Would love to move Noah's contract already, but would not give up Melo for a meager return like this one.

29 Nov 2016 14:27:11
lol move porzingis do you know a thing about basketball? you just suggested trading melo for a pile of rubbish too.

28 Nov 2016 16:43:37
Okay adapting the trade idea by "NBA" for bulls dream moves. Just focusing on the melo part of the deal WHERE the money won't work.

This deal will be:

Bulls Celtics and Knicks

Knicks trade melo
Knicks get Amir Johnson (expiring deal), mcw, Doug Mcdermott, and bobby Portis, plus kings pick from bulls (not top ten pick, must fall out of top ten)

Celtics get Robin Lopez
Celtics trade Amir Johnson

Bulls trade king pick, mcw, Mcdermott, Portis and Lopez
Bulls get melo

Bulls starting five

Rondo, butler, wade, melo, and either mirotic or gibson.

Celtics get there center for an expiring contract in Johnson

Thomas, Bradley, crowder, hortford, Lopez

Knicks rebuild with A Few young assets while only taking on Amir Johnson's one year salary.

A COMPRIMISE FOR SURE BUT IT DOES WORK MONEY WISE AND HELPS EACH TEAM.

28 Nov 2016 17:25:00
I think its as near as good of a return as the Knicks can expect for Melo at this stage of his career and the "right" move to trade him now since they aren't going anywhere with him. I like Portis' game and the upcoming draft is supposedly deep especially at pg so maybe Knicks can get their next man.

I'm torn on it for the Bulls. They're giving up most of depth they have and would be real thin at center. I don't think Melo makes them a contender but then again I thought they'd be doing a lot poorer than they are. I don't think Jimmy Butler would entertain Bulls bringing in Melo and he could leave in FA in a few years which would leave the franchise in the gutter. I don't think not doing this trade necessarily avoids this outcome so I'd probably roll the dice and do it. Maybe Wade and Melo could convince CP3 to replace Rondo in the off season.

I think Cs are the winners of this deal. Robin Lopez is a solid big man that defends and rebounds. His contract is a little of the hefty side but I think the value and fit is good.

28 Nov 2016 17:53:06
Right. So if that's as "good of a return" as the knicks can expect. they flat out refuse.

So they get 4 bench pieces, at least 2 of which will be cut, and a mid to late 1st?

Just a reminder. while I know carmelo is severely over the hill and has absolutely no production or value. He is still averaging 23 pts, over 6 boards and almost 3 assists a game. He has a PER over 20. And currently 17th in the league in scoring.

While I get it. that clearly is evidence of a player worth a group of bench pieces and a mid to late 1st. my guess is the knicks would likely hold on to him, because you know. he isn't worthless.

Also, while at it. you say that's all you can expect at this stage of his career. isn't lebron james at the same point? I mean, do you highly discount Lebrons value because of the stage of his career? Actually, an argument can be made that he has more wear on his tires because he plays a more bulldozer game. So, is lebron worth significantly less?

The point is, the knicks don't have an interest in trading melo unless it brings back some serious potential. An expiring deal, 2 bench warmers, portis (a clear position of no need), and a highyl protected 1st is just an absurd offer. Even if you think its what his value is. knicks flat out refuse because it really adds nothing to the team now or in the future.

28 Nov 2016 17:57:55
Absolutely your are a bulls fan. you want carmelo right?

28 Nov 2016 19:53:31
I was actually just adding to the deal posted by NBA so the money works.

I personally would do it if I was the Knicks. I mean yes melo still has talent but he's also never going to help the Knicks with in anything. I would hope they are smart enough to get a return for him now before his value is zero. This may not be the best return but it does refill the team with young talent which they current don't have much of.

The way I see it if the Knicks keep melo they will never get out of the first round of the playoffs. So the choice is. is that all Knicks fans want. or try to tank like a third of the NBA does already and get a high pick. while getting younger in this trade. Either choice is going to take a long time to rebuild. But that's the NBA.

28 Nov 2016 22:43:33
I was talking about the deal happening in the offseason though.

29 Nov 2016 18:09:45
NBA. I thinking it's a better chance during he season. Bulls will soon realize that they are good but aren't in the championship caliber team yet. Melo would be an upgrade for them. Not sure if his addition help them win a title or not but I think it helps get them closer. and Boston I think has already seen that they desperately need a big man to truely compete. Lopez isn't great but he would help solidify that starting five. And of course knick are wat everyone thought they'd be. So they should absolutely get value for melo ASAP. So the need is available right now for all teams involved. Maybe mid season trade deadline.

01 Dec 2016 15:17:29
tre. how does that trade do anything towards what you claim, of getting them out of the first round? They get rid of their leading scorer and top 2 talent and producing player. and they get 4 players, 2 that will be cut, 2 that will be role players and a mid to late first. it benefits the team none. Knicks would be far better trading noah to the wolves. There are reports that the wolves would be interested because of Thibodou. something like dieng, rubio, payne for rose and noah.

If i was the wolves, I wouldn't do that. but the rumors are out there that tibs is willing to make that type of trade for those 2 players because he still loves them.

Thats a trade that could potentially help for the future.

28 Nov 2016 15:12:06
NYK - CLE - PHX

NYK get: Devin Booker and Tyson Chandler

pg. Rose
sg. Booker
sf. N'dour
pf. Porzingis
c. Chandler

CLE get: Carmelo Anthony and 2017 1st DP PHX

pg. Irving
sg. Smith
sf. LeBron
pf. Melo
c. Thompson

PHX get: Kevin Love

pg. Knight
sg. Bledose
sf. Warren
pf. Love
c. Len.

28 Nov 2016 17:05:28
HaHa

I love this trade for New York, but no way the Suns do this.

28 Nov 2016 17:54:38
If Cavs were going to trade Love for Melo I think it would have already happened. Love is playing some of his best bball in a cavs uniform and I doubt they shake up the chemistry even for Lebrons buddy.

Don't think Phx would take this trade either. Booker hasn't been great thus far but he's only 20 and Chandler seems to have redeemed himself after last year. Maybe if it was Knight and Chriss/ Bender it could work better.

29 Nov 2016 04:57:24
Phoenix would not move Booker for Love, and a Love for Melo swap doesn't make sense for the Knicks. A third team needs to be involved, I just don't think you picked the right one.

29 Nov 2016 05:03:14
Suns have had little to laugh about so far this season. but this trade idea would get some ROFLMAO from them. and after their laughing stopped, they 'd simply say "Not a chance". and hang up.

01 Dec 2016 15:18:19
Riiiight. however multiple trade outlets have proposed this as a potential trade.

27 Nov 2016 18:45:51
BULLS DREAM MOVES (Assuming: Bulls make playoffs as 5th seed but lose in 1st round. Knicks finish 9th in East, Carmelo is upset, team decides to rebuild around Porzingis. Clippers finish 2nd in West, but lose in 2nd round again)

-Carmelo requests for trade to Chicago
Bulls get Carmelo Anthony
Knicks get D. McDermott, B. Portis, and #11 pick

Draft: (Kings pick lands at #11, goes to Bulls, then traded to Knicks)
-#21-Carlton Bragg (Forward, Kansas)

Free agents:
-Taj Gibson (renounce rights)
-Nikola Mirotic (renounce rights)
-Michael Carter-Williams (renounce rights)
-Waive Rajon Rondo (non-guarenteed)
-Dwyane Wade (opts out) (re-signs 2yr 25m)
-Cristiano Felicio (re-sign 1yr minimum)

Free Agency:
-Sign Chris Paul 2yr 30m
-Sign Tony Allen 2yr 5m
-Sign Amir Johnson 2yr 5m

Lineup:
Paul/ Grant/ Canaan
Wade/ Valentine/ Hunter
Butler/ Allen/ Zipser
Melo/ Bragg/ Felicio
Lopez/ Johnson.

27 Nov 2016 21:30:39
The offer for Melo isn't awful. However, I don't think Kings finishing outside of top 10 especially after they deal Cousins (I think they'd be stupid not to its just a matter of how soon and where) .

Are you predicting Dwade taking another paycut or is that 25M per year for two years? His player option is for 23.8M so I highly doubt he declines even to play with his buddies Paul (same issue unless 30M per year then your having salary cap issues) and Melo.

27 Nov 2016 21:53:58
Everything about this scenario is unbelievable. u may as well trade Lopez for Anthony Davis while you're at it.

27 Nov 2016 21:58:07
Melo could agree to pay for Wade and Paul's dinner for the ear since he'd be getting paid more than them to play together lol.

28 Nov 2016 00:19:08
As a bulls fan, I still think cleveland would actually beat us.

28 Nov 2016 01:40:31
This is like saying 76ers dream moves sign durant and cousins. rubbish like this ain't happening.

28 Nov 2016 05:57:48
Without trading Wade or Butler salary wise trade don't work. Learn the cba rules before u make 1 sided trade bulls fan.

28 Nov 2016 12:26:05
Actually I'm not a Bulls fan, so learn before you make conclusions.

28 Nov 2016 16:32:32
The value for melo is fair. the money is the problem. Idk how bulls can pull it out. might have to find a third team to take Robyn Lopez and mcw and replace lopez with a super cheap alternative from that team or free agency.

27 Nov 2016 17:28:06
1)Chi- GS-Boston:

Chi: Crowder+ Smart+ 1rnd pick 18 Nets
GS: J Butler+ 1rnd pick Bost 18
Boston: K Thompson


2) Boston-Sac-Philly:

Bost: D Cousins
Sac: A Johnson+1rnd pick Nets 17+ return swap17+ return 19 pick Sac+ 1rnd pick Clippers 19
Philly: 1rnd pick Memphis 19+ McLemore


Boston
C: D Cousins
PF: Horford
SF: J Brown
SG: K Thompson
PG: I Thomas
Sixth: Bradley+ Olynyk.

27 Nov 2016 17:48:05
Timing is really everything. Right now we understand that the Nets pick may be the #1 overrall, but we don't put the right value on that because it is almost an abstract idea at this point. In a few months, however, a couple of players will certainly begin to differentiate themselves from the rest (which happens every year), and by the time everyone is familiarized and seduced by those 2-3 players, we might be saying this: I don't want to trade that particular player for a one year rental of DMC, who might not help us win a championship and on top of that has all the "tools" to jeopardize the locker room chemistry.

27 Nov 2016 18:08:44
Lots of moving parts here, not the least of which would be Cousins' willingness to sign long term. In the second part, the Kings would receive swap rights to the 2017 Nets pick, but Sacramento might actually have a worse pick than Brooklyn, and it would be useless.

27 Nov 2016 19:18:02
Why would philly give up so much for a grizzlies pick and a bust in mclemor?

27 Nov 2016 19:22:33
Ik mean the philly swap.

27 Nov 2016 19:33:02
Philly only give up the 19 pick. They propably can't use the swap
The 2019 grizlies could be great.
Mempfis is an aging team.

28 Nov 2016 16:51:17
Gasupo

Either way. Mavs pick is 2019. Sac pick is 2019. Why would I do that even straight up? Kings haven't been good for years and they're about to lose cousins in 2019.

So why would sixers not want that unprotected pick then over the mavs pick then. And your asking to give up a swap which if Kings fall in the lottery would mean even a slightly greater chance at the first pick. Plus mclsmore has done nothing in this league. why would we even want him?

26 Nov 2016 20:23:36
Wolves get Noah McLemore Vujacic
Knicks get Gay Pekovic Cole
Kings get Rubio Thomas

Dunn/ Jones/ Lucas
Lavine/ McLemore/ Vujacic
Wiggens/ Muhammed/ Rush
Towns/ Payne/ Dieng
Noah/ Hill/ Cole

Rubio/ Collison/ Lawson
Afflalo/ Temple/ Richardson
Barnes/ Thomas/ Casspi
Cousins/ Tolliver/ Labissiere
Koufos/ Stein/ Papagiannis

Rose/ Jennings/ Randle
Lee/ Holiday/ Baker
Melo/ Gay/ Kuzminskas
Porzingis/ O'Quinn/ Ndour
Hernangomez/ Plumlee/ Walters-fa.

26 Nov 2016 21:07:20
Remove Cole obviously.

26 Nov 2016 21:37:19
I don't like the deal for Twolves. Noah looks almost as done as Pek and has a bigger and longer contract. Not a good return for them on Rubio.

26 Nov 2016 21:39:31
Why would Minnesota want 2 more expensive bigs?

25 Nov 2016 17:56:36
Knicks/ Lakers/ Clippers trade
NY get N. Young Deng lou-Will Clippers 1st
Clipper get Melo Vujacic Baker
Lakers get Crawford Reddick Thomas Johnson



Rose/ Jennings/ Randle
Lee/ Lou-Will/ Holiday
Deng/ N. Young/ Kuzminskas
Porzingis/ O'Quinn/ Johnson
Hernangomez/ Noah/ Plumlee

CP3/ Felton/ Baker
Rivers/ Johnson/ Vujacic
Melo/ Pierce/ Anderson
Griffin/ Bass/ Moute
Jordan/ Speights/ Stone

Russell Mosgov La 1st for Cousins Temple

Clarkson/ Calderon/ Huertis
Reddick/ Crawford/ Temple
Ingram/ Thomas/ Artest
Nance/ Randle/ Johnson
Cousins/ Black/ Zubac.

25 Nov 2016 19:02:18
NY say no why get older and worse.

25 Nov 2016 23:53:07
Also, Lakers are trying to develop young guys together with a little veteran help. I don't know if they are going to give up Russell.

24 Nov 2016 19:35:28
Fantasy Trade of Course but kind of creative way to create the Cavs Ultimate super team. (Kind of hope this one becomes a "Rumor" lol) btw HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

Cavs Sacramento Knicks 76ers (Yes this Works with Trade Machine)

Cavs trade:
Shumpert
Frye
Thompson
Dunleavy
McRae
Mo Williams
Fielder
2020 First Round Pick

Cavs receive
Melo
Cousins
Casspi

Sacramento trades:
Cousins
Gay
Mclemore
Casspi

Sacramento receives:
Shumpert
Frye
Dunleavy
Noel
Cavs 2020 first round pick

Knicks trade:
Melo

Knicks receive:
Thompson
Gay
McRae

Philadelphia trades:
Noel

Philadelphia receives
Mclemore
Mo Williams
Kay Feilder

Realistically none of this is going to happen of course but if Cavs got desperate or both Stars demanded a trade to the Cavs and Cavs made it happen this may work. Cavs have the 5 star super team of the century. Sacramento doesn't really get fair value back but they get rid of every negative influence in their locker room that has been open about it at least will adding a few players to replace the outgoing players and a potential in Noel and adding a draft pick. Knicks get great value of Thompson McRae and Gay even if he is only on the Knicks for this season but he replaces Carmelo for now. Philadelphia also gets rid of a problem with Noel and the big men rotation while adding two young prospects in Mclemore and Feilder. Mo gives them a veteran experience and a good teacher and leader for this season if he even does come back but if not it's not loss for the 76ers.

Once again Happy Thanksgiving!

24 Nov 2016 23:04:15
I think you're a Cleveland fan with Lakers DNA :-)

25 Nov 2016 03:48:25
Haha hey our Cleveland teams usually don't get stars to much until recently so excuse us for being greedy lol.

23 Nov 2016 21:35:05
Big deal for Paul George

Ind- P. George-J. Young

for

Boston- A. Bradley-J. Crowder-2017 Brooklyn-2018 Brooklyn- 2018 swap option with Boston 1st-2019 Clippers 1st.

WHY?!

Indiana: Adds 2 finge allstars that both make under 9 million and 4 1st rounders. They both can rebuild and compete at the same time.

Boston: They finally get their Superstar and makes them a top 2 seed and challenger with Cleveland

Ind
PG-Teague
SG-Bradley
SF-Crowder
PF-Young
C-Turner
bench-Ellis

Bos
PG-Thomas
SG-Smart
SF-George
PF-Johnson
C-Horford
Bench-Olynyk.

23 Nov 2016 22:36:28
Think you're wrong on several counts, landshark.
1. Boston's D is built on perimeter defense, and that goes to heck without Bradley and Crowder.
2. If the Celtics are going to give up two starters and two high lottery picks, the deal would have to be bringing Anthony Davis.
3. Boston's depth this season is ok but not great, and would be even shakier with Smart starting. And speaking of Smart, no team can survive when your 2 guard shoots 30 percent from deep.

23 Nov 2016 22:57:59
That's a trade wa're willing to give PG13 for.

23 Nov 2016 23:31:39
I agree with Supercollider. George is a top 10 talent and is likely close to worth this offer but that is why you don't see top 10 guys moved very often. Giving up both Crowder and Bradley in addition to the draft picks hurts. I think giving up one of the two players is justifiable but both hurts Cs depth.

Overall I think its a mute point since Indy isn't dealing George unless they get a ridiculous offer and Celtics always trying to get dollars for a few pennies.

23 Nov 2016 13:15:08
Olynyk for Casspi.

23 Nov 2016 22:38:44
Why is this not fair?
Olynyk is having a down year, and Casspi is not even playing for the Kings.
Change on scenery might benefit both players and both teams.

24 Nov 2016 23:27:44
kings will have 5 centers.

22 Nov 2016 19:14:12
Sacramento and Boston
Sac gives up rudy gay
Boston gives jerebko, green, young and mickey along with 2 2nd rounders

Bos
Thomas/ rozier
Bradley/ smart
Crowder/ gay/ brown
Johnson/ olynyk
Horford/ zeller.

22 Nov 2016 22:00:41
The Celtics would want Gay only if they could flip him for a decent big.

22 Nov 2016 22:00:41
The Celtics would want Gay only if they could flip him for a decent big.

22 Nov 2016 22:58:43
Not necessarily. Trade is a low risk high reward situation either way. Gay would be a good insurance policy if Crowder's ankle starts acting up again. Brown is at least 3 years away from being a legit starter for a team.

22 Nov 2016 05:25:13
Celtics "All In" approach at the deadline

Trade one: Boston - New York

Celtics trades- Johnson, Crowder, Jerebko, Bostons own 2017 first round pick, Bostons 2018 2nd round pick

New York trade- Carmelo Anthony

Best offer New York may get with Carmelo having the no trade Clause and a nice return for someone who isn't to happy in his current situation. It isn't a great offer for Melo but a few draft picks and a nice replacement and role players and it's a new start with a young team next year.

Trade Two: Boston-Sacramento

Celtics trade- Zeller, Brown, Smart, 2018 Brooklyns first pick, 2019 Bostons first round pick

Sacramento trades- Cousins

Sacramento gets a nice return for their superstar and Boston gets the true player they covet and a top player at his position type player not downing Horford but Cousins is a step above. Breaking it down Sac receives Three Young talented players with of course Brown being the major draw but Smart and Zeller are good in their own right. Draft pick situation wise Sacramento receives a possible top 5 pick next year to go along with their low pick. Also an additional pick in 19.

Overall I think Melo would accept a trade to Boston if they also received Cousins because they could be the top team in the East with Thomas Bradley Melo Horford Cousins starting line up.

22 Nov 2016 08:15:45
1. Celtic don't have a own first rounder 2017- they can swap with Brooklyn. that's it.

2. We don't need Melo. He is no longer a elite Player who can bring you a championship.

3. The Cousins Trade is nice.

22 Nov 2016 11:19:09
Sacramento doesn't need Zeller and may need to turn 2018 into 2017 to sweeten the deal for Cousins. As soon as Kings show more convincing signs they may deal him a bunch of teams will start increasing the offers and it'll be competitive. It isn't everyday arguably most talented center in the league and a top 15 talent in the league is available and coming from such a dysfunctional situation.

I don't see Melo fitting in well with that team and personally would prefer to have Crowder for a variety of reasons (contract, age, defense, low offensive demand, team player, work ethic etc. ) . Besides they won't own their pick after they officially swap for Brooklyn pick.

Adding Cousins I think gives Celtics another wrinkle that creates a difficult matchup for Cleveland of GS potentially giving the Cs a shot at contention for a title not only this upcoming season but for the foreseeable future (assuming Cousins will resign) .

22 Nov 2016 12:04:03
I'm with Harry Celtic on this one.
Knicks can peddle Anthony elsewhere. He doesn't make the Celtics any better than they are now, and has too many miles on the odometer.

22 Nov 2016 13:17:36
Melo for that package does make the C's better. He's miles better than Crowder, and the rest is filled except for the 1st. I could see Boston not wanting to surrender that one, so make it the Memphis pick instead, it won't be as good.

I love C's fans suggesting that Melo is garbage when they overrate pretty much every one of their players. I believe it was just two days ago that a C's fan suggested that Smart was a top three defensive PG!

22 Nov 2016 17:52:03
Melo does not make the C's better, he'll disrupt the chemistry and once he doesn't get his shots he'll whine.
But I do like the Boogie trade.

22 Nov 2016 02:09:49
IND/ BOS/ NYK

IND get Brooklyn 1st 2018 and Carmelo Anthony
* still get a star and a very nice pick

Pg Teague/ Stuckey/ Brooks/ Young
Sg Miles/ Ellis
Sf Melo/ Robinson
Pf Young/ Jefferson
Ce Turner/ Seraphin

BOS get Paul George and NYK 1st 2019
* get a superstar and gain a potential good pick

Pg Thomas/ Smart/ Rozier
Sg Bradley/ Green
Sf George/ Brown
Pf Horford/ Olynyk
Ce Johnson/ Zeller

NYK get Brooklyn 1st 2017 and Jae Crowder
rebuild on an earlier pick and get a very good role player

Pg Rose/ Jennings
Sg Lee/ Holiday
Sf Crowder/ Thomas
Pf Porzingis/ Oquinn
Ce Noah/ Hernangomez.

22 Nov 2016 11:23:53
No way Pacers do this. George is leaps and bounds above Melo at this stage of their careers. If they did want to trade George a more attractive offer would be to just cut out NYK and get both Brooklyn picks and Crowder.

22 Nov 2016 13:23:51
I don't know that George is leaps and bounds better, but he's younger, healthier, and the guy I would rather build my team around. No from Pacers, yes from the other two.

21 Nov 2016 16:59:40
Celtics get:

-A. Davis
-T. Frazier


Pelicans get:

-M. Smart
-J. Brown
-A. Johnson
-K. Olynyk
-'17 1st Rnd. Brooklyn pick
-'18 1st Rnd. Brooklyn pick


Celtics LINEUP:

PG Thomas Rozier Jackson
SG Bradley Young
SF Crowder Green Mickey
PF Horford Olynyk Jerebko
C Davis Zeller

In 2017-2018

PF Yabusele
C Zizic.

21 Nov 2016 21:16:18
I would actually do that if I was the Pelicans and Celtics. Lose a ton but gain a ton.

22 Nov 2016 21:57:27
That does not get you Davis. Not even close. Please go make offers to Sacramento for Cousins instead.

22 Nov 2016 21:57:27
That does not get you Davis. Not even close. Please go make offers to Sacramento for Cousins instead.

 
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