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26 Aug 2016 04:15:29

Jazz acquire Crowder and Wall


small ball Wall-Hayward-Johnson-Crowder-Gobert would go toe to toe with GS

Celtics acquire Hood and Favors
improve shooting and their 2 bigs could dominate somehow


Wizards acquire Smart, Burks, Amir Johnson, BKN 1st 2017 and Jazz 1st 2017
tank and get another high pick

get 2 young wings and a vet big + a big pick in 2017 draft


26 Aug 2016 13:22:44
C's give up way too much to get Favors, who's a really nice player, but probably isn't even worth the potential first pick in the draft that is the Nets pick.

25 Aug 2016 02:37:34
ORL/ BOS/ SAC midseason deal

ORL get Marcus Smart, Ben McLemore, Amir Johnson (exp) , and 1st round pick 2018 BOS

BOS get Serge Ibaka (exp) , Omri Casspi and 2nd from ORL and SAC

SAC get Elfrid Payton

only happens if BOS is a serious contender and ORL sucks again.

BOS roster

Pg Thomas/ Rozier
Sg Bradley/ Brown/ Hunter
Sf Crowder/ Casspi/ Young
Pf Ibaka/ Jerebko
Ce Horford/ Olynyk/ Zeller.

25 Aug 2016 05:08:25
That's a lot to be giving up for Payton.

25 Aug 2016 05:17:35
Not really, McLemore has been terrible in Sacramento and needs a change, Casspi is just a decent role player and shooter and then the 2nd round pick. Seems fair to me.

26 Aug 2016 04:46:51
Could work Maybe McLemore and Koufos

25 Aug 2016 01:34:13
Clippers/ Raptors, Knicks/ Raptors

Raptors Recieve- Luc Mbah A Moute
Clippers Recieve- 2017 (maybe 2018 as well) 2nd round raptors

Raptors Recieve-2017 1st round (top 15 protected), Kyle O'Quinn
Knicks Recieve-Terrence Ross.

25 Aug 2016 12:55:31
Knicks can't trade that pick and absolutely won't trade that pick.

25 Aug 2016 13:00:40
Knicks can't trade their first until 2018, and Luc has more value to the Clips than a couple of 2nd round picks.

24 Aug 2016 04:29:34
Jazz/ Wizards/ Celtics

To UTA - J Wall, A Bradley, J Jerebko
* get a star point and seriously challenge Western teams


To WAS - D Exum, M Smart, D Favors, 1st from BOS (own) and 1st from UTA 2017
* this is a very good return for Wall if they decide to rebuild


To BOS - G Hayward, M Gortat
* get Steven's player in Hayward and a center to start alongside Horford


24 Aug 2016 05:25:09
Celtics need to give more towards Utah.

24 Aug 2016 05:31:49
I like the general premise but I think Boston is getting a bit too much (Hayward is one of most underrated players in the league) and needs to throw Utah and maybe Washington a little more. Also, I think maybe swap Crowder for Bradley so Hayward can play sf which I think suits him better and Crowder gives the Jazz more flexibility as he can play 2-4.

Also, to complete the story and cause Utah has a rubbish ton of pgs send Mack (another ex Butler player under Stevens) to Boston with a 2nd rounder or something small coming back.

24 Aug 2016 06:51:46
This could work either

BOS get Hayward, Gortat, WAS 1st top 12 protected

WAS get Favors, BKN 1st 2017, Exum, UTA 1st 2017

UTA get Wall, Amir Johnson and Bradley.

24 Aug 2016 13:17:13
I like the second trade option on this thread. Only potential change is not having Utah's first going to washington. They are already giving up exum favors and hayward.

22 Aug 2016 18:34:40
Miami is lottery bound and should tank.

Heat/ Rockets

Heat - Capela, Brewer, Beverly, 2017 1st.

Rockets - Dragic, Whiteside.

Miami might give up a lot, but they get 40mil in cap space to chase Curry/ Griffin/ Hayward among other big FAs. Capela/ Winslow/ Richardson is scary on D and a top 5 pick is a solid core moving foward.

Rockets obviously do this. Whiteside/ Anderson/ Ariza/ Harden/ Dragic is a top 5 team in the west.

2017 draft:
Markelle Fultz 3rd
Grayson Allen 22nd

Buyout Bosh.
Hayward 4 year max
Ibaka 3 year 70mil
Gibson 2 year 18mil
Olynyk 3 years 22mil
Evans 1 year 8mil

Fultz/ Johnson
Winslow/ Richardson
Hayward/ Evans
Ibaka/ Gibson
Capela/ Olynyk.

22 Aug 2016 21:10:21
That's awful value for the heat. How do they plan on attracting any talent if they have none themselves? I'd do that offer for just Dragic but adding in whiteside too is outrageous. They aren't getting Curry and Whiteside is almost as good as anybody they could realistically get so it makes a lot more sense to keep him and hope he can help attract someone else.

22 Aug 2016 08:14:20

BOS get Anthony Davis and Tony Snell

Pg Thomas/ Rozier
Sg Bradley/ Hunter/ Snell
Sf Brown/ Jerebko/ Young
Pf Davis/ Mickey/ Yabusele
Ce Horford/ Zeller

CHI get Jae Crowder, Amir Johnson, Tyreke Evans and BKN 1st 2018

Pg Rondo/ Evans/ Grant/ Canaan
Sg Wade/ Valentine
Sf Crowder/ Mcdermott
Pf Mirotic/ Gibson/ Portis
Ce Lopez/ Johnson/ Felicio

NOLA get Jimmy Butler, Kelly Olynyk, BKN 1st 2017, BOS 1st 2018 and Marcus Smart

Pg Holiday/ Smart
Sg Hield/ Pondexter
Sf Butler/ Hill
Pf Jones/ Olynyk
Ce Asik/ Ajinca.

22 Aug 2016 10:00:05
I don't think Butler wants to go to NO.

22 Aug 2016 14:27:21
New Orleans is not giving up Davis.

22 Aug 2016 14:29:18
Not sure how Boston ends up with AD in this deal.

22 Aug 2016 18:13:19
2 bkn picks.

22 Aug 2016 18:50:03
Crowder smart and two bkn picks gets Davis?

Chicago needs more.

21 Aug 2016 16:22:43

BOS get Butler, Noel and Stauskas

Thomas/ Rozier
Butler/ Smart/ Stauskas
Brown/ Jerebko/ Young
Horford/ Johnson
Noel/ Olynyk/ Zeller

CHI get Crowder, Hunter, BKN 1st 2017 and 2018

Rondo/ Grant/ Canaan
Wade/ Valentine/ Hunter
Crowder/ McDermott
Mirotic/ Gibson
Lopez/ Portis/ Felicio

PHI get Avery Bradley and Tony Snell


21 Aug 2016 16:51:40
Man would I love this trade to happen as a bulls fan.

21 Aug 2016 17:05:37
Boston should only offer 1 pick.
The combo Butler/ Wade isn't gonne work.
So Butler's trade value is going down.

21 Aug 2016 17:09:53
Celtics say no.

21 Aug 2016 18:23:40
Rubio and bazz or dieng. Not Dunn. I'd understand Philly saying no but, that's the deal I'd offer.

21 Aug 2016 18:46:21
Wrong thread. My bad.

21 Aug 2016 19:07:24
How is butlers value going down? He's still a top 20 player, he's still a great two way player. Chicago can easily force a few teams into a bidding war. This is amazing value for butler (probably too much) . I can't see Boston giving up both picks, Bradley, and crowder for butler and Noel.

I think this can be simplified by making it crowder and a Nets pick for butler. No reason for Phili to be involved. I'd rather have Bradley than Noel anyway.

21 Aug 2016 19:25:19
Sixers say yes.

Bulls say yes

Celtics say yes.

I like it all around

It'll be a mid season deal though. Bulls still think they can win now with the group they have.

21 Aug 2016 19:40:02
Bulls say no. They want towin now by who they signed this offseason. I think butler and wade can play together but they need to work on their outside game in order to spread the floor better.

21 Aug 2016 04:35:01
Sac gets - Denzel valantine, tag Gibson, Doug McDermott, 2019 Chicago 1st rounder
Chicago gets - cousins

Cousins is leaving Sacramento. To who? I think it will be either Boston, Chicago, or New York.

21 Aug 2016 04:58:51
That is an absolute terrible return for Cousins. Trade talks between Chicago and Sacramento for Cousins has to include Jimmy Butler.

21 Aug 2016 05:09:13
Well that isn't happening. I guess Chicago won't get cousins.

21 Aug 2016 06:42:14
That's my point.

21 Aug 2016 13:13:34
Lmao @ Bulls fans.

26 Aug 2016 05:04:07
LOL Not close

20 Aug 2016 14:26:15
receive: WC-Stein+ Gay
trade: C Anthony

receive: Payn+ Kanter
trade: WCS+ Gay

receive: C Anthony
trade: K Love

trade: Payn+ Kanter
receive: K Love.

20 Aug 2016 14:52:59
Horrific for the Knicks.

20 Aug 2016 15:30:29
Knicks say hell no.

20 Aug 2016 15:44:33
WCS/ Porzingis would dominate. Maybe NY needs a 1st?

20 Aug 2016 16:11:46
I think OKC loses the most.

20 Aug 2016 16:53:56
comme on
the Knicks trade an aging star for a young talent
WCS+ Porzingis would be a great combo in a few years and Gay is a good replacement.

The Thunder give up a lot, but they should gamble.
K Love is a great shooter, so he could become a good offensive combo with Westbrook.

20 Aug 2016 17:03:15
wait. first off gay is a horrible downgrade from anthony. WCS has proven nothing thus far. Prospect. absolutely. Young talent, or as thunderfan said. domination? Get out of here.

I think people can appreciate that anthony has a couple very good years left at least. This is a terrible TERRIBLE trade for the knicks.

20 Aug 2016 17:40:04
Kanter and Love have about the same value, both of them are good rebounders and offensive players but terrible at defense. Kanter is also on a better contract and he is younger so he has potential to be better than Love. Adding Payne just makes it worse for OKC.

20 Aug 2016 21:51:22
Kanter has no where near the value of love. Love is a considerably better scorer, a better rebounder, and somehow a better defender. Love can also stretch the floor, which Kanter can't do.

20 Aug 2016 23:51:20
Bad for Kings too

21 Aug 2016 03:58:40
Though I'm a Knicks fan, I live in Toronto (fan before the Raptors joined the L) . Trust me when I say, like hamburger said, Gay is a horrible downgrade from Anthony.

The Knicks wouldn't start WCS either, they did just overspend $72M on Noah. I like WCS, but the add/ subtract of Gay/ Anthony is definitely not worth it.

20 Aug 2016 14:26:15
receive: WC-Stein+ Gay
trade: C Anthony

receive: Payn+ Kanter
trade: WCS+ Gay

receive: C Anthony
trade: K Love

trade: Payn+ Kanter
receive: K Love.

19 Aug 2016 08:07:40

ATL get Batum and Olynyk

CHA get Korver, BKN 1st 2018

BOS get Millsap.

19 Aug 2016 09:43:00
Boston is giving up to much.
Millsap is a great Pf, but he's 31 years old.
Boston has a good team and Millsap won't give them a title, so why rush?

19 Aug 2016 12:07:17
By the time the Celtics are ready to make a legit title push (a few years from now), Millsap will be heading toward his mid-30s. Might do Olynyk and a No. 2, but no more -- and definitely not one of the Brooklyn picks.

19 Aug 2016 12:09:26
The Brooklyn picks are available, I'm sure, but only IN A PACKAGE for an elite player. Millsap doesn't make that cut.

19 Aug 2016 12:07:17
By the time the Celtics are ready to make a legit title push (a few years from now), Millsap will be heading toward his mid-30s. Might do Olynyk and a No. 2, but no more -- and definitely not one of the Brooklyn picks.

19 Aug 2016 12:09:26
The Brooklyn picks are available, I'm sure, but only IN A PACKAGE for an elite player. Millsap doesn't make that cut.

19 Aug 2016 12:28:10
In a few years eh? So after horfords prime? So why did they sign him?

19 Aug 2016 14:54:47
Not to mention in a few years they could have some trouble keeping their team together. Thomas, Bradley, crowder, and smart will all demand lots of $$$.

20 Aug 2016 01:31:15
I don't give up the potential number pick in the draft for a guy in the last year of his contract. I like the fit, but Crowder and the C's pick seems a little more reasonable.

16 Aug 2016 13:30:28
Jazz get Gibson Holiday
Bulls get Rose Bolomboy Pleiss
Knicks get Rondo Burks

Rose/ Canaan/ Grant
Wade/ Valentine/ Dinwiddie
Butler/ McDermott/ Snell
Mirotic/ Felicio/ Bolomboy
Lopez/ Portis/ Pleiss

Hill/ Neto/ Mack
Hayward/ Exum/ Holiday
Hood/ JJohnson/ C. Johnson
Favors/ Lyles/ Ingles
Gobert/ Diaw/ Gibson

Rondo/ Jennings/ Randle
Lee/ Burks/ Vujacic
Melo/ Thomas/ Ndour
Porzingis/ Kuzminskas/ Hernangomez
Noah/ O'Quinn/ Plumlee.

16 Aug 2016 17:18:09
You get about 8, s because you'll need them more then me.

16 Aug 2016 18:10:33
Are you really proposing that Derrick Rose goes back to the Bulls right after they traded him? What?

16 Aug 2016 23:13:19
So knicks get rondo and burks for rose.

11 Aug 2016 15:16:17
I think BOS still can do something to improve roster

Simple deals


BOS get Kenneth Faried and 2nd rd pick

Thomas/ Rozier
Bradley/ Smart/ Hunter
Crowder/ Brown/ Young
Faried/ Olynyk/ Mickey
Horford/ Zeller

DEN get Amir Johnson and BOS own 1st round pick 2018

Mudiay/ Nelson
Murray/ Harris/ Beasley
Chandler/ Barton
Gallinari/ Johnson/ Arthur
Jokic/ Nurkic/ Lauvergne.

11 Aug 2016 15:31:25
No clue why the Nuggets would trade a high production pf for a back up and a likely very late pick a couple years away. The celtics first is likely not MUCH better than the nuggets second. Just a bad trade.

11 Aug 2016 15:56:43
Not saying either team would do it but Faried has fallen out of favor in Denver to the younger foreign guys. But I agree that he could still be a high production guy somewhere.

07 Aug 2016 22:58:34

Celtics get Kevin Love and Willie Cauley-Stein

Cavs get Rudy Gay, Amir Johnson, Boston 2018 1st (top 5 protected), and a 2017 2nd rd pick

Kings get Marcus Smart and Kelly Olynyk.

08 Aug 2016 00:37:57
Not a big fan of this trade since don't think Cavs are interested in an offer where best piece back is a future draft pick. Also I think Kings aren't getting enough in return.

I really like a trade centered around Smart and Cauley-stein since Celtics could use an athletic defensive center and Rozier looks ready to contribute. With Kings having lost Rondo and having too many big men a swap for a young pg like smart could make sense.

08 Aug 2016 03:18:35
Why would Boston want WCS and Kevin Love when they already have AL Hoford.

08 Aug 2016 13:37:58
Boston doesn't get love without a bkn pick involved.

08 Aug 2016 13:42:27
Love and Horford start, WCS becomes an energy big off the bench like Biyombo was for the Raps last year. That's why they would be interested.

07 Aug 2016 02:20:34
Boston Celtics send - Amir Johnson, Jonas Jerebko, Kelly Olynyk, RJ Hunter, 2018 1st Round Brooklyn, 2019 1st Round Memphis
recieve - Demarcus Cousins
Sacramento Kings send - Demarcus Cousins, Rudy Gay
recieve - Amir Johnson, Wilson Chandler, KJ McDaniels, Kelly Olynyk, Jusuf Nurkic, Sam Dekker, Clint Capela, 2018 1st Round Brooklyn
Denver Nuggets send - Wilson Chandler, Jusuf Nurkic, Gary Harris
recieve - Patrick Beverly, Jonas Jerebko, RJ Hunter, 2017 1st Round Houston, 2019 1st Round Memphis
Houston Rockets send - Patrick Beverley, KJ McDaniels, Sam Dekker, Clint Capela, 2017 1st Round Houston
recieve - Rudy Gay, Gary Harris

Boston recieve a star for a package of players and picks freeing up roster space.
Sacramento get rid of two stars who want to leave and begin to rebuild. They can make more trades for picks or waive lesser players to find space in the roster.
Denver continue to rebuild getting rid of two players who a secondary in their position on the Nuggets and recieving some quality players as well as picks. They also make way for Jamal Murray by getting rid of Gary Harris.
Houston find a solid star in Rudy Gay to pair with Harden. However they should look to move either Gordon or Harris for a point guard to replace Beverley.
Approved by NBA trade machine.

07 Aug 2016 04:27:59
So Boston gives a bunch of bench pieces and a 1st two years away and a Grizzlies first 3 years away. And they get cousins? Fair value.

07 Aug 2016 05:13:58
seems legit.

07 Aug 2016 09:29:13
buller you must be a NBA2K trade Fan huh? this is silly and you will NEVER SEE TRADES LIKE THIS IN REALITY.!
and you said someone elses trade was "terrible". REALLY?

07 Aug 2016 10:03:56
Yeah I know its never going to happen but it checks out
Im not dumb i'm just exploring some options
Oh and by the way Boston might get a great deal but that dosen't mean another team won't do it, it's all about if it's unfair for a team.

07 Aug 2016 14:01:11
Ok. Here's why the Kings don't do it. And why all the teams don't. You have to relatively match up the players. So the Kings send out two players and get 7 back and a pick.

What's the point there? They going to field a roster of 20?

That's why the teams are getting screwed. They cut everyone and like the kings, end up with maybe 3-4 decent players and a pick for cousins and gay? It's a terrible trade. Well, it's good for the Celtics.

But thanks for the heads up on how trades work!

07 Aug 2016 15:59:17
What's the point of the Celtics even giving up any players? They're all off of the kings roster in a year or so whether it be by getting cut or going to the d league.

05 Aug 2016 15:59:39

Crowder, smart, brooklyn selection 2017 and 2018 pick
Paul george

Thomas/ Jackson
Bradley/ rozier
George/ brown
Olynyk/ johnson
Horford/ zeller

Indiana gets a great return and will be able to do more with brooklyn picks and two potential starters
Again this is assuming Indiana underperformed.

05 Aug 2016 17:04:37
That's a great offer for PG13 and we should have taken that offer a few weeks ago, but now we have Teague, Jefferson and Young. We should give this team a chance.

04 Aug 2016 10:49:51
What should the Clippers do next season?
I think they can challenge Golden State, if they're all healty.
But what should they do if CP3 and/ or Griffin wants out?

1) Phoe-Clippers
Phoe: B Griffin
Clippers: Bender+ T Chandler
==> Phoenix is a good destination for Griffin's bad knees.

2) Boston- Clippers
Bost: D Jordan
Clippers: Olynyk+ A Johnson+ 1rnd pick Nets 17

3) Clippers- NY
Clippers: Porzingis+ Ross
NY: CP3+ Reddick

In this case, the Clippers keep their 2017 pick (top 14 protected)
They can draft Jackson and Fulz

C: Porzingis
Pf: Bender
SF: Jackson
G: Fulz
G: Free agent (Ross, if he can stay healty)

04 Aug 2016 12:21:52
Blake griffin and his bad knees? What are you talking about.

Knicks say no.

And how do the clippers get 2 of the top 3 picks?

This is rather unrealistic.

why would Suns or Knicks give up their best prospects for a rental? They could just sign them next year. Very foolish for either team to consider this.

04 Aug 2016 13:47:26
The Nets pick and their own pick.

04 Aug 2016 14:11:46
Oh jeeze. I assure you, the clippers aren't going from, as you say, "challenging golden state" to the worst team in the league. All these trades would need to be completed before the start of the season, because by the trade deadline, they will already have won too many games to be up for the last pick. Even if they do make all these trades, they aren't the worst team in the league.

And who on the knicks is named ross?

Suns say no. Knicks say no. Celtics say no.

Why are the suns giving away Bender for a rental on a team that is in rebuild mode? Especially when as you say, he has baaaaaad knees.

Why are the knicks giving up porzingis and a player not on their team for cp3? So he can put rose as a backup pg? When they could just sign him next year and keep their best prospect?

And why in the world would the celtics give up potentially the number 1 overall pick for Jordan? Jordan is a very good center. the type of center they can just sign in free agency.

Just makes no sense as a whole.

04 Aug 2016 16:06:08
Come on now Hamburger, you and I and everyone else on this site knows that he meant ROSE. He must have hit the "s" instead of the "e" since they are basically next to each other. You are just nitpicking and being your usual a$$ of a self with that ross comment.

But everything else is spot on haha.

04 Aug 2016 16:35:54
Knicks would do this trade.

04 Aug 2016 17:15:15
don't worry
I still love hamburger.

05 Aug 2016 12:22:16
Honestly didn't even think about rose. Because the Knicks would clearly say no chance. You're an idiot true.

You think cp3 for rose and taking out their starting 4 and future will win a championship this year? Seeing as it's expiring. I'm guessing not. Knicks would never do that unless Thomas starts running the organization again.

05 Aug 2016 12:23:24
FYI Larry. Calm down. Sorry, your insults don't really affect me. That was one part of a much larger comment. So in truth. The ass nitpicking is you. Hypocrite.

03 Aug 2016 23:25:30

CHI get Thomas, Crowder and 2017 BKN pick

BOS get Rondo and Butler


BOS get Griffin, Pierce and Reddick

LAC get Bradley, Brown, Jerebko, Johnson and BKN 1st 2018

BOS sign Perkins


Rondo/ Rozier
Reddick/ Smart/ Hunter
Butler/ Pierce/ Young
Griffin/ Olynyk/ Mickey
Horford/ Zeller/ Perkins.

04 Aug 2016 01:32:39
Respect the realistic trade.

04 Aug 2016 02:09:39
LOL! Rondo back in Boston, too funny.

04 Aug 2016 07:47:03
At least it made you laugh. Peace man.

03 Aug 2016 15:39:33
A long shot but if Westbrook commits to resign


BOS acquire Russell Westbrook, Gordon Hayward and Tyson Chandler

Pg Westbrook/ Rozier
Sg Hayward/ Bradley/ Hunter
Sf Crowder/ Hayward/ Young
Pf Horford/ Jerebko/ Mickey
Ce Chandler/ Zeller

PHX acquire Amir Johnson, BOS 1st 2018 and Marcus Smart

Pg Bledsoe/ Ulis
Sg Booker/ Smart/ Barbosa
Sf Warren/ Dudley/ Tucker
Pf Bender/ Chriss
Ce Johnson/ Len

OKC acquire Brandon Knight, Jaylen Brown, 1st from UTA, BKN 1st 2017 and another BOS future 1st

Pg Knight/ Payne
Sg Oladipo/ Morrow
Sf Brown/ Roberson/ Singler
Pf Ilyasova/ Sabonis/ McGary
Ce Adams/ Kanter

UTA get Isaiah Thomas and Kelly Olynyk

Pg Thomas/ Hill/ Neto
Sg Burks/ Exum
Sf Hood/ Johnson/ Ingles
Pf Favors/ Lyles/ Olynyk
Ce Gobert/ Diaw/ Whitey

BOS build a contender and could seriously challenge the Cavs or even the Warriors once they build chemistry

PHX remove Knight and Chandler while getting a young guard who can learn from Bledsoe and would be a perfect fit for Booker in the future and a pick

OKC get a good return to rebuild the team

UTA might lose Hayward. In this deal they receive a very good pg who can keep their pace against a team like GS or POR

Who lose?

03 Aug 2016 16:08:12
I like the trade for Boston, but i think they can get those players cheaper.

This is a winner for phoenix

this is also a winner for OKC,

Utah should do this, if Hayward wants out.

03 Aug 2016 19:36:40
Why would hayward want out? They have built a team with long and short term potential around hayward. He has never had issues with the organization. Plus, the jazz just upgraded significantly at PG with hill, why would they possibly give up their franchise player for a redundancy at the pg position?

04 Aug 2016 05:13:27
I'm not sure why he would want out either, but I though I read somewhere that he was going to test free agency (per his own words) .

02 Aug 2016 08:03:28

CHA get JJ Reddick, Kelly Olynyk and Amir Johnson + 1st from BOS

Walker/ Sessions
Reddick/ Harrison
Batum/ Lamb/ Williams
Williams/ Kaminsky/ Olynyk
Johnson/ Hibbert

LAC get MKG, Avery Bradley, Tyler Zeller, BKN 1st 2017 and Marco Bellineli

Paul/ Rivers
Bradley/ Crawford
MKG/ Bellineli/ Johnson
Speights/ Bass/ Mbah
Jordan/ Zeller

BOS get Blake Griffin, Spencer Hawes and Paul Pierce

Thomas/ Smart/ Rozier
Brown/ Smart/ Hunter
Crowder/ Pierce
Griffin/ Jerebko/ Mickey
Horford/ Hawes.

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