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22 Mar 2017 15:21:07
Porter 5yr 100 mil
Melo roots from Baltimore wizards go for it and challenge Cavs next yr. Knicks get 23 yr old who won't be a superstar like Melo. But has all better around than Melo.
Noah 6th 58th for Lin Lopez
22 Mar 2017 16:25:33
Why the hell would the knicks give up melo. for a longer, similar valued contract in porter?
Porter is in his 4th year and having his best year by FAR. at 14 pts, 6 boards.
Why would the knicks possibly want to pay porter like a franchise building block? Especially for 5 years. far better off just sitting back with melo for a couple more years.
With the exception of this year, injuries and ever changing lineup, melo has consistantly made his teams much better overall year in and year out. Is he still elite superstar? no.
But sure as hell rather have him for another 2 years than 5 years of porter at about the same cost.
Not to mention, there is a decent chance melo opts out after next year to get a final, big contract.
Shizzee, you are really really a bad knicks fan. You want to get rid of a very high pick in an incredible draft, for a team that struggles to make the playoffs for a couple years at least. Why not just hold onto it, and build like a smart team?
22 Mar 2017 17:53:50
I think the Wizards would be the one to say no. Porter is a good player, and the big issue there is that he's on the upside while Melo is on the downswing. You need to find a young stud to grow with KP and the other kids the Knicks have on the team. There's a bunch of really good players in this draft, but it's still a crapshoot. I'm not sure if I would make that second move, as I'm not completely sold on Lopez, but you need to ask if getting rid of Noah's contract and picking up Lopez as a #3 guy is worth it. Lopez is young enough to work with that core you're putting together. I think I'd wait to see who's on the board and do it as a draft night deal.
22 Mar 2017 18:43:37
The Knicks would do this so fast it's not even funny. No way WAS does this.
22 Mar 2017 21:57:39
Hate the second trade for the Knicks. In the first one I don't see them being able to get better value for Melo elsewhere (Porter will get a big contract but he is relatively young, versatile, is one of the top 3pt shooters in the league) . Pairing Porzingis with a guy closer to his age is the smart move since history has proven Melo isn't taking this team anywhere.
Melo does very little for them at this point so I think they should deal him for best value they can get. Due to his no-trade clause there aren't very many teams they could trade him to so I don't think they'd be able to beat this offer. Not wanting to pay Porter is only a valid argument if you could tell me who they would give the money to otherwise.
23 Mar 2017 12:05:50
Don't see porter as a franchise cornerstone. No reason to think he will be. Good starter. No superstar. No chance I'd give him 5yrs at melo money when the Knicks could be out of Melos contract in 1 year. 2 years max.
Point is I wouldn't want to sign porter to that regardless of trading for melo. It's an over pay for a player that will likely be the third or fourth option for a team. Will not work out well in the future.
23 Mar 2017 14:21:47
Honestly, I don't see Melo getting a final BIG contract, he definitely won't get a max so he may just as well stay where he is for the final year (28m) . I will be shocked if he gets a 3 yr. guaranteed contract.
23 Mar 2017 15:33:30
Bill, I agree. But I've seen crazier things. Point is though it's only 2 years left max. And he is producing at this point and realistically the next two years far better than porter. So why make that move?
23 Mar 2017 16:28:06
Porter is no 20m/ yr. player so unless its 4 or 5 years at much less money I just don't see it happening, unless Melo pushed for it, he would have to waive that NT clause. Wizards should have done this at the trade deadline to try and get deeper in the playoffs, who knows, maybe they did. When the season ends anything is possible. If KD comes back like he was when he left GS should win. And this drives LBJ crazy, Cav's didn't make a big splash because the owner took away LBJs trading power.
Don't think Knicks would do this. But one thing for sure is Jackson will do his best to get rid of Melo. We can all agree on that.
23 Mar 2017 16:43:48
Third options will get paid 20 million in the current salary cap of the NBA. 20 million for a young guy like porter isn't crazy, it's the market.
23 Mar 2017 18:33:49
OK burger 2nd trade valid points, I agree. You can't ignore what has happened with salary cap and salary. Porter is worthy 5 yr deal 100 mil. Guys like Oladipo Parsons getting more. It's only going to get worse next yr. Porter numbers jump each yr. Better all around player than Melo right now. Wizards are win team now.
Knicks get Biyombo
Magic get Noah rights to swap 2018
Ball-2nd/ Mason-58th/ Randle
Lee/ Thornwell-47/ Baker
Porter/ Thomas/ Kuzminskas O'Quinn/ Biyombo/ Inglis
Porzingis/ Hernangomez/ Plumlee.
23 Mar 2017 19:03:15
Bmiller. absolutely false. Simple math proves differently.
This is exactly why NO will have issues.
If 20 mill is the 3rd option, reasonably 25 and 30 mill would be number 1 and 2.
That means those 3 players alone account for 75 million. And that's the issue. You can't fill out a solid deep roster with that little of money.
He simply isn't worth that amount.
24 Mar 2017 00:10:33
Good players are getting paid like great players, and that means since the cap has gone up the past 2 seasons money is being thrown about recklessly, without any thinking of past 2018. This will hurt some teams. Portland, for one, and if Cleveland doesn't win this year they're going to have to start selling pieces because they are in cap trouble for 2 more seasons and then they still can't sign a max player .
NO is in a position where I think, depending of where they're at in the standings next deadline, they could trade Boogie for much more than what they stole him for. Good move by Pels.
24 Mar 2017 02:34:31
Porter has improved his game this season. He's upped his field goal and free throw percentage and shooting 45% from three, upped his scoring, is a decent rebounder, and will get you steals and a block, he's a good defender, and he's like what 23, 24? Teams would easily give him 5 years 100 million and a team like the nets would give him a max to see if he could be a star stepping out of the stars shadows from wall and beal like the Mavericks did with Barnes (I personally think Porter is better) .
24 Mar 2017 03:32:03
Porter will be Allen Crabbe. After the big contract, his game will fall.
24 Mar 2017 15:34:49
EXACTLY what I was thinking USA. The king. a drastic diviation from your career norms in a contract year is NOT a reason to throw money at a player. Porter shows all indications of a good, not great, player. If you really think you can devote 20% of your team cap to a third, fourth or fifth option, go for it. But that's the mentality to screw yourself.
Especially when someone goes, well, Parsons got more. So what. So the knicks should make a terrible contract because another team did a similar terrible contract?
Right now, Porter is 5th on his team in scoring. Bela, Wall, Bojan, Morris, and Gortat is just behind him. HE IS THE FIFTH OPTION ON HIS TEAM. Prior to this year, his best year is 36% from 3, and it wasnt because of a lack of opportunity. This year is good, not great. And by no means an indication that you should spend that kind of money on the guy. It just simply makes no sense.
24 Mar 2017 18:01:23
I wish they would change all sports contracts to a minimum with bonuses to make more if you play good. You play like a star you'll get paid as such. You play like a slacker you get paid as one. Stop paying for what they did in the past, start paying for what they did that year. Of course that will never happen.
25 Mar 2017 18:55:53
Hamburger, I'm also a Knicks fan, and I'm going to have to disagree with you on Melo vs. Porter.
Yes, Melo is the better player today, but Washington's two best players are still young, so they can wait out the Cavs before making a serious challenge for the title. By time they have a real shot at coming out of the East, Porter will be more valuable than Melo.
I believe the best chance to move Melo is to either a desperate under performing team like the Clips, or a win now team like the Cavs.
07 Mar 2017 15:55:19
If Brooklyn gets rid of Brook Lopez this could happen.
Brooklyn trades Booker and Hollis Jefferson
Brooklyn gets Mahinmi and Hezonja + future second round pick
Washington trades Mahinmi and J. Smith
Washington gets Booker and Rudez
Orlando trades Hezonja and Rudez + future second round pick
Orlando gets J. Smith and Hollis Jefferson
Trade works on trade machine.
Brooklyn gets starting C and SF and goes full rebuilding mode.
Washington gets rid od horrible Mahinmi contract and improves bench with Booker. They can easily waive Rudez in process and sign a center for less money than Mahinmi (maybe Sanders).
Orlando sets Hezonja free and gets another young player in RHJ and a veteran bench player in Smith.
07 Mar 2017 21:41:46
Wizards are big winners of this. I like Nets taking upside of Hezonja over RHJ but think they should be getting compensated considerably more for taking on Mahinmi's contract. Magic could potentially be interested in RHJ as a versatile role player off the bench but if I were them I'd opt for Hezonja's upside instead.
22 Feb 2017 13:12:06
Washington gets Nick Young
Lakers get Jason Smith and 2017 WAS 2nd.
21 Feb 2017 20:24:27
21 Feb 2017 23:10:02
Gortat is better than Okafor.
21 Feb 2017 23:28:44
I like this trade
Okafor is going to be a good center on th right team.
22 Feb 2017 01:21:15
Okafor would be better given the chance than Gortat, not even debatable.
23 Feb 2017 03:23:07
I don't think Washington has a 2017 first to trade.
21 Feb 2017 18:19:38
So I will take T. Zeller, T. Rozier ,and 2017 Minnesota 2nd round pick from boston for A. Bogut.
Mavs can trade T. Zeller in draft time to team who need salary cap for offseason, while mavs pick up young player . Team like GSW, LAC, OKC, Wizards
21 Feb 2017 17:27:19
Clippers get Otto Porter
Wizards get J. J. Redick and 2019 LAC 2nd.
21 Feb 2017 16:51:00
Lakers/ Wizards/ Cavs
Lakers trade: Lou Williams and future 2nd
Lakers receive: Kelly Oubre, James Jones and Cavs 2021 1st
Wizards trade: Kelly Oubre and Trey Burke
Wizards receive: Lou Williams, Richard Jefferson, and Lakers 2nd round pick
Cavs trade: James Jones, Richard Jefferson and 2021 1st
Cavs receive: Trey Burke
21 Feb 2017 19:31:01
Cavs say no. Wizards say no.
21 Feb 2017 03:52:40
Ilyasova Pek. Rodriguez Hill phi 1st
Melo Rubio Aldrich Ndour Baker min 2nd
Okafor Henderson Bayless Noah
Allen 3 trade serve there purpose for now and future. Wolves take on payroll
17-18 playoff 44-38
4yr 110 mil Sign Noel
17-18 playoff 44-38
Sign G.Hill and Porter 4 yr 100 mil
Utah and Wizards won't match
17-18 playoff 45-37
21 Feb 2017 04:14:46
Philly isn't going to give up a first for Melo and Twolves aren't going to take Noah's contract for that little. It is also quite optimistic to think Wizards won't match any offer for Porter and although Hill is more attainable he is a better fit on Utah who are a better team.
This is a dream scenario for Knicks fans and not very realistic at all.
21 Feb 2017 04:16:57
So Minnesota gets two bigs they don't need. One who doesn't play defense and another who can barely play on arguably the worst contract in the NBA.
Yeah, that makes sense.
21 Feb 2017 04:58:29
Of course Sixers give up pick unless you are valuing Okafor equal Melo. Lmao
Noah for 6 more mil Aldrich Hill is more valuable to that team. Noah to Wolves more valuable than to NY. Noah prolonging his career by not playing while allowing Hernangomez to get playing time. Wolves have no vet leaders. 70 games a yr 20 min per game. He is no longer starter min. Still he might perfect for Okafor.
20 Feb 2017 19:50:59
3 team deal
Okc get: CJ Miles and jae crowder
Bos gets: PG13
the pacers just got much more value the kings and damarcus is better then pg13. also pacers get young pieces to get a good rebuild because they can't beat cle bos tornto washington
pacers get: Brooklyn 2017 pick Alex abrines kyle syngler joffery lauverne
domantas sobonis marcus okc 2 2nd smart or brown
Okc gets shooters and defenders without giving up too much talent now but affect their future but westbrook won't be around unless okc STOPS LOOKING FOR PICKS AND YOUNG TALENT AND SHOWS THE WANNA WIN NOW
bos gets superstar to team up with thomas
okc signs griffin 4 108 mil player option o year 3 and tucker 3 year 18 mil
iny drafts fultz
bos signs milsap 3 year 73 mil and noel 3 year 60 mil kcp 2 year 35 mil
okc and bos turns to contender and can win the title'
indy gets rebuild
TELL ME IF YOU THINK IT GOOD
20 Feb 2017 20:10:46
I wouldn't use the Cousins trade as a barometer for PG13's value currently as George has another year on his contract and isn't the mercurial character Cousins is. Also George is much more versatile player. Pacers should however figure out what they want to do with him fast so they don't find themselves in a similar situation the Kings found themselves in our worse since George is noncommittal on signing an extension with Pacer even if its 200+mill.
Don't think its an awful trade for PG13 but the franchise should likely wait until the offseason to do a trade after they have more time to evaluate things and see how playoffs go. Would be great pickups for the Thunder and really good (almost too good) value. Those Boston signings I think are very unrealistic. With IT and Bradley going to be FA summer 2018 they aren't going to commit that much money to FA (doubt they even can) . KCP isn't going anywhere especially for that little as a restricted FA and 76ers seem committed to Noel now so I think they'd begrudgingly match that offer.
20 Feb 2017 21:31:11
Boston would rather have Butler, would give them an extra year of flexibility.
Boston gives the 17 Brkln pick, A Bradley and Crowder for Butler.
21 Feb 2017 01:10:39
thx for sharing.
20 Feb 2017 14:30:01
Pelicans get Wizards 2017 1st rd pick
Wizards get Jrue Holiday.
20 Feb 2017 15:19:30
Holiday has been playing well lately and he is young enough to grow with Cousins and AD while also having the versatility to play sg if a better point guard presents themselves. In FA they only real clearly better options are Curry, Paul and Lowry (Hill, Teague and Rose are about similar caliber imo) . I could see Pelicans shopping Holiday due to his health concerns and the availability of possible replacement in FA.
I don't think however Wizards would really want to do this. They wouldn't be able to offer Holiday a starting position which would likely make it tough for them to resign him in FA.
20 Feb 2017 15:27:56
Pelicans are working on re-signing Jrue.
20 Feb 2017 06:10:53
NOP/ WAS/ PHX
If the rest of the NBA had the same trade logic as the Kings
NOP get: Wall, Booker, Bledsoe
WAS: Frazier, Montejunas, Pondexter, Moore, Ajinca, 1 Future NOP 1st, 1 Future NOP 2nd
PHX get: Holiday, Cunningham, Asik, Diallo Hill, Casspi, 1 Future NOP 1st, 1 Future NOP 2nd
Sign Coach Cal
Sign Aaron Harrison
Sign Alex Poythress
Sign Archie Goodwin
Sign Dakari Johnson
Sign Marquis Teague
Sign Doron Lamb
Sign Darius Miller
Wildcats (I mean Pelicans) :
Bledsoe/ Harrison/ Lamb
Booker/ Poythress/ Miller
Don't hate. Just laugh and imagine how crazy this would be.
20 Feb 2017 07:16:04
You forgot about MKG.
19 Feb 2017 19:41:29
WAS: L Williams
LAL: A Nicholson & '17 1st rd pick (#24)
19 Feb 2017 21:19:28
Not sure Lakers would get any higher firsts than that for Lou Williams so they should highly consider. Nicholson's contract does have 3 more years after this year but is manageable at under 7mill per year over that time frame.
Williams would be a great addition for Wizards (I'd like to see them turn their first into help at the deadline) .
16 Feb 2017 07:29:38
CHA / WAS / LAL
CHA: Trey Burke, Loul Deng, 2017 1st round pick from LA (via WAS Lou Williams trade)
WAS: Lou Williams
LAL: Nic Batum, T. Satoranksy
16 Feb 2017 08:59:13
I like the Lou Williams to Washington idea but trade doesn't work for me. Lakers pick is already due to sixers if it isn't top 3 so I'm confused what "2017 1st rounder from LA" is (Lakers would be foolish to give up which is right now about a 50% chance at a top 3 pick for this return) . If its the Wizards pick its too good to be true for the Lakers and awful for the Hornets.
I don't think Batum is a great fit with Lakers and Charlotte values him highly and doubt they'd want to take on Deng's contract. I don't think Williams' value alone is enough to convince a team to take on Deng's contract let alone bring back an asset like Batum back too so Lakers would have to add more but a potential top 3 pick in this draft is too rich for me.
16 Feb 2017 09:38:43
The pick is coming from the Wizards in exchange for Lou Williams, not LA's potential pick, and would be sent to the Hornets.
Batum and Deng are both overpaid but Deng's contract is 1 year less and saves them 28 million (2 million a year) .
Something similar — Lou Williams, Loul Deng and 2 second round picks for Batum.
16 Feb 2017 14:35:23
If its Wizards pick, first I'm not sure Wizards would be willing to give that up in addition to two young guards who have played solidly for Williams who I think at best is worth just a late first. Even if they did I don't think that offer makes the Hornets budge on Batum. He and Deng may both be overpaid but Batum is actually good and younger than Deng so he is significantly more valuable. I don't think its worth giving up that for 1 year of cap relief (especially with it 3 years in the future) for what they are getting. Even if Deng was taken out of the deal completely (I know salary wouldn't work) but from a value perspective don't think Hornets would even do it. Wizards have been one of the hottest teams lately and their pick doesn't project to be all that good.
16 Feb 2017 15:10:18
maybe CHA would rather give up Kidd Gilchrist for deng.
16 Feb 2017 16:07:34
You're under valuing batum. His contract is fine.
16 Feb 2017 16:10:28
batum - 15/ 7/ 6 PER almost 16
Deng - 7/ 5/ 1 PER almost 10
remind me, hiow are they about the same and you aree claiming deng is better because a yeaer less? deng is also 4 years older. aka going to be even worse.
15 Feb 2017 23:44:32
Possible trades for Lou Williams to a contender to bolster their bench
LAL: Oubre & Burke
WAS: L Williams
LAL: KJ McDaniels & T Ennis
HOU: L Williams
16 Feb 2017 05:29:30
i would think the lakers would want some form of draft pick back for a vet that has an impact as large as lou williams. even if that's only a second rounder or 2.
16 Feb 2017 05:47:24
Williams isn't worth that much maybe Lou Williams for the towel boy n 2 Gatorade bottles.
16 Feb 2017 06:52:11
xblood you are crazy. Lou Will would have an impact on a playoff contender.
15 Feb 2017 23:23:34
WAS: D Cousins & M Barnes
SAC: M Gortat, O Porter Jr, K Oubre, '17 1st
16 Feb 2017 04:50:19
Beal must be in this deal at least.
14 Feb 2017 00:47:48
Heat get Wall, gortat, pick
Wizards get Whiteside, dragic, johnson
Heat can go after Cousins with his college teammate
Wizard get a defensive anchor at center they can pair with Beal n a vet pg
14 Feb 2017 02:48:39
I don't think Wizards would accept this. If they really wanted they could go after Boogie themselves. The Wizards have miraculously came from the worst team in the league the first few months of season to one of the hottest and top 3 in the east. I don't think they get rid of their best player for that offer let alone Gortat (who has played solidly) and their first rounder as well.
12 Feb 2017 02:17:52
Still think this is best offer for Melo
Celtics get Gortat Mahinmi Ndour
Wizards get Melo Zeller Noah
Knicks get Porter Morris Ellis Johnson
Pacers get Jerebko-exp
12 Feb 2017 04:49:49
wizards lose big time in that Porter is literally the perfect 3 and d guy and morris helps as well gtfoh.
12 Feb 2017 13:21:52
Boston is not going to shift bodies around if all it gets out of the deal is an aging/ declining Gortat.
12 Feb 2017 01:06:39
5 realistic Aron Baynes trades I see the Pistons making at the deadline.
2017 2nd round pick
Tim Hardaway Jr.
2017 2nd round pick
Future first round pick
2nd round pick
12 Feb 2017 04:20:11
None of these make any sense for the other team.
12 Feb 2017 04:27:43
Well. Pistons don't have a 2017 2nd round pick
Also, the Pistons are looking to get cheap options and getting picks not trading them
Also, the burke trade is not even. adding a future 1st rounder makes no sense as baynes for burke may be enough.
13 Feb 2017 02:34:58
lol. i am trying to figure out who wants baynes to begin with.
11 Feb 2017 01:09:01
Was: O. Porter, M. Gortat,A.Nickleson, T. Burke,
Sac: D. Cousins A. Afflalo, O. Casspi
J. Wall T. Santoransky
B. Neal A. Afflalo M. Thorton
K. Oubre O. Casspi
M. Morris J. Smith
D. Cousins I. Mahiimi
11 Feb 2017 06:05:18
Add in the 19 first take out gortat and add oubre and I think the kings would consider
10 Feb 2017 05:04:33
Wash: Noel, Covington and Sauce
This should fix the bench for Washington and Sixers can start Porter
10 Feb 2017 13:31:05
Porter is an RFA after this year, so the Sixers would not include FoCo in this deal.
10 Feb 2017 14:19:50
Porter is an RFA, but the Sixers would have plenty of space to sign him to the max and still have some wiggle room. You keep Okafor in this scenario and now you have a ridiculously young and good team. Phillies better off paying the Max RFA money to Porter than they are Noel.
10 Feb 2017 15:17:07
Sixers would do this. They are much more likely to resign porter then resign Noel.
10 Feb 2017 18:50:56
I don't see enough of a difference between porter and covington to warrant adding suace (who I hate) and noel. The fact that it makes more sense to resign porter is irrelevant. I think something else would need to be involved from washington.
The sixers aren't doing charity work here.