21 Aug 2018 17:41:51
BOS gets Butler

MIN gets Brown, Smart Theis and Mem pick.

1.) 21 Aug 2018
21 Aug 2018 18:02:27
Are you high? I wouldn't trade Brown straight up for Butler, never mind the rest of the package. Butler is not that good.

2.) 21 Aug 2018
21 Aug 2018 18:23:01
I wouldn’t give up Brown for Butler because of Butler’s personality and contract situation, but he would be the best all around player on the Celtics imo.

3.) 21 Aug 2018
21 Aug 2018 19:44:26
Butler would be a rental. Celtics won't have the cash to max him out. Besides, no way he's worth a starter, two other rotation players and a moderately high No. 1 pick.

4.) 21 Aug 2018
21 Aug 2018 20:16:46
Um. Yes he is worth that. The only reason not is due to his contract situation.

Do Celtics fans want to win this year or just keep going In The future? Seems like the latter.

5.) 21 Aug 2018
21 Aug 2018 20:33:12
Butler is a really good player but this package is more valuable than what raps paid for Leonard.

6.) 21 Aug 2018
21 Aug 2018 21:25:48
Spurs hands were tied, ninny’s aren’t . yet.

7.) 21 Aug 2018
21 Aug 2018 21:39:33
If Ainge really wanted Butler, he would have traded for him long before he was traded to Minnesota.
I know Butlet is a good player, but he cannot defend like Brown.

To answer your questions, Knicksfan, of course they want to win, but they would be further away by trading a top starter and 2 valuable rotation pieces aND a good 1st rd pick for someone who wouldn't replace what they are losing.

8.) 21 Aug 2018
21 Aug 2018 21:57:09
Comme on, the only reason Boston wouldn't do this is the contract situation.

It's a good package.
J Brown is a good defender and show potential, but he isn't a starter, playing behind Hayward and Tatum.
The memphis pick is top seven protected, so it must be a loaded draft to give that pick value.

I would hesitate doing this trade, because Smart is a really good rollplayers.

But the Celtics should do this trade, they get a two way top ten player without giving up Tatum, Hayward, Irving and Horford.

9.) 21 Aug 2018
21 Aug 2018 21:57:20
JoeB, the guy who was on the defense 1st team this year can’t defend like Jaylen Brown? Brown was a good defender last year, but come on.

10.) 21 Aug 2018
21 Aug 2018 21:58:15
Butler is a top tier defender, how can he not defend like Brown? He's a 4 time all NBA Defensive Team, including last year.

I like Brown, but has he become one of the most overrated players in the NBA if you wouldn't trade him for an all star in Butler? It's not like you're giving up a top 5 pick, that Memphis pick is protected for two more years.

Brown is also only locked in for two more years, then you likely have to pay him a huge contract. So you're paying someone an enormous payday one way or another. Might as well take the superior player and try to win a ring now.

11.) 22 Aug 2018
22 Aug 2018 00:37:20
Yeah butler is worth the package but salaries for C’S are already peaking I think we will just keep what we have and keep those draft picks.

12.) 22 Aug 2018
22 Aug 2018 05:31:29
Lmao the bias by celtics fans, butler is a better defender then brown, better score, better passer, better at everything and if they traded brown for butler straight up would be favored to win the title this year.

13.) 22 Aug 2018
22 Aug 2018 05:32:03
i shouldve said would win the title.

14.) 22 Aug 2018
22 Aug 2018 13:20:59
C’s fans are ridiculous. Butler is better than Brown in every way.

As everyone else non-delusional above has stated, the reason Boston doesn’t, and shouldn’t make this deal is Butler’s pending FA status. A lineup of Irving, Butler, Tatum, Hayward and Horford would be ridiculous though.

15.) 22 Aug 2018
22 Aug 2018 15:00:51
Butler is way better than Brown, Brown is younger and should look more explosive than Jimmy buckets. If Ainge had a crystal ball and saw that Boston would win if they made this trade then Danny would make it, just for the title. But DA doesn't have a crystal ball and this trade is NOT going to happen.


With Hayward back in the fold I can see Brown being moved at some point, either at the deadline or next summer. But i'd Hayward gets injured there's no way that Browns get moved.

16.) 22 Aug 2018
22 Aug 2018 16:33:43
Billj, Hayward has been pretty healthy through his career and a break isn’t really a risk for reinjury, once it’s healed. The only real risk is that his leg isn’t as strong and he doesn’t have the same explosiveness.

17.) 22 Aug 2018
22 Aug 2018 17:19:45
Hayward and Tatum are SF, brown is a SG. Until Hayward or Tatum shrink and add significant ball handling to their skill set brown is the starting SG.

18.) 22 Aug 2018
22 Aug 2018 17:49:18
I think the C’s will use Hayward at the four in a death squad lineup to be able to get Brown and Tatum on the floor with the starting unit.

19.) 22 Aug 2018
22 Aug 2018 18:14:19
Hayward is a considerably better ball handler than Brown from everything I've ever seen. Also, if you trade Brown, you're getting a guy that can be a primary ball handler in Butler. Boston would have three point guards (Irving, Smart, Rozier) and two more wings that can run the offense (Hayward, Butler) . And they'd have one of the best point centers in the NBA in Horford. Boston would be one of the strongest ball handling teams in the NBA.

Is there any difference between a SG and SF in the NBA any more? I think they should move to three positions: Point, Wing, Big. There's still some grey areas, but it's more realistic to what the NBA is.

20.) 22 Aug 2018
22 Aug 2018 19:05:06
Brown was the starting 2 all last season even opening day when hayward was injured. Why would tatum take browns place and Hayward all of the sudden a 2 instead of a 3?

21.) 22 Aug 2018
22 Aug 2018 19:21:26
Tatum is projected starting in the PF slot.

22.) 22 Aug 2018
22 Aug 2018 19:44:41
Celtics cannot trade Smart until after January 15 by league rules.

23.) 23 Aug 2018
23 Aug 2018 01:55:32
Wow Btec is absolutely clueless! Ok keep overrated Jaylen brown over jimmy butler haha I never thought I’d have to write something so stupid! Boston can’t beat golden state anyways but you keep dreaming brown turns into half the player butler is.

24.) 23 Aug 2018
23 Aug 2018 04:41:46
I said the raptors paid less for Leonard and butler is a really good player. What are you talking about Cde2812? I'm serious I have no clue what you are talking about?

25.) 23 Aug 2018
23 Aug 2018 15:19:02
Im still cracking up at the person who said that Butler can't defend like Brown.

Mind you, Butler made 4 of the last 5 all defensive teams, and all nba the past 2 years.

Brown made an all rookie, second team. Nothing else.

That should give an idea of the inflated values Celtics fans put on their players.

26.) 23 Aug 2018
23 Aug 2018 17:20:43
I don't understand how Toronto paid less for Leonard. They gave up an all NBA player that is as good as Butler himself. Plus a young player and a first.

I'd take Derozan (a 4 time all star and two time all NBA player), Poetl, and a first over Brown, Smart and a first any day.

27.) 23 Aug 2018
23 Aug 2018 19:32:46
Butler is better than derozan and Leonard is better than butler. Poetl and theiss are pretty even and smart and brown are equal to derozan but the grizzlies 1st is more valuable than the Raps 1st. It could be a late lottery choice.